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This is (not) an excuse

kobulingam
01-26-2008, 12:41 AM
This is (not) an excuse for Federer's loss. But here goes...

I've had stomach flu and food poisoning (not same time) before, and
even after I got rid of it, it took me a good 2 weeks to feel 100%.
It affected me in subtle ways in every part of my life.


Even at work (where I'm a programmer), I was a tad slower and less
sharp during the 2 weeks. When playing tennis, my timing was off and
I felt a little "fat" (I wasn't fat, but I felt slower as if I had
gained weight). And I couldn't hit the ball as hard for long periods
of time.


This thing must have affected him. And I'm not including the fact
that it ruined his preparation/warm-up.

l_mac
01-26-2008, 12:44 AM
This smells a lot like an excuse.

It reads a lot like an excuse.

It is, in fact, an excuse.

VolandriFan
01-26-2008, 12:53 AM
This is not an excuse but....

[Insert Excuse Here]

Andi-M
01-26-2008, 12:54 AM
This smells a lot like an excuse.

It reads a lot like an excuse.

It is, in fact, an excuse.

:lol:

Marek.
01-26-2008, 12:55 AM
Isn't kobulingam more of a Rafa fan?

VolandriFan
01-26-2008, 12:58 AM
For me, I doubt he had any illness to begin with. He didn't want to play at Kooyong for whatever reason and this is the most sensible excuse. People always question injuries, and he needed to make up some plausible story for not playing. :shrug:

ReturnWinner
01-26-2008, 01:00 AM
its a very big cheap excuse

Marek.
01-26-2008, 01:00 AM
I doubt he would lie about going to a hospital just to get out of a warm up.

l_mac
01-26-2008, 01:00 AM
Isn't kobulingam more of a Rafa fan?


Does it matter? I didn't think he/she was a particular fan of either.

VolandriFan
01-26-2008, 01:01 AM
I doubt he would lie about going to a hospital just to get out of a warm up.

I never heard the hospital story? :eek:

Burrow
01-26-2008, 01:03 AM
This smells a lot like an excuse.

It reads a lot like an excuse.

It is, in fact, an excuse.

Coming from somebody who was moaning constantly about Nadal's knee's in his loses last year.

Hypocrite.

l_mac
01-26-2008, 01:03 AM
Coming from somebody who was moaning constantly about Nadal's knee's in his loses last year.

Hypocrite.

What's a hypocrite?

Marek.
01-26-2008, 01:04 AM
Does it matter? I didn't think he/she was a particular fan of either.

It doesn't really matter I guess, but lately he does seem more neutral. When I first started posting he was fairly supportive of Nadal though.

I never heard the hospital story? :eek:

I think he stayed the night or something, I don't really remember. He did go to have it checked out though.

Burrow
01-26-2008, 01:04 AM
its a very big cheap excuse

You also used to complain everything about Nalbandian, anything, if he never showered his armpits correctly that day or never took the correct size of shit in the morning you would moan about that. You butt kisser.

Federer had a virus, you think that you can play 100% with that?

Watch him go on to win Indian Wells and/or Miami, go Roger.

Burrow
01-26-2008, 01:07 AM
What's a hypocrite?

Yeah without the e, whatever, also been through several of your posts and you have made so many errors, big deal.

My point is you used to constantly make excuses with Nadal about his knees and something happens to Federer and you cannot appreciate the fact he cannot play 100%.

Hell, if this was Nadal you would be constantly bitching about it, complaining, defending his early loss (infact I doubt he would have even played) Infact you are this person who that retard, Blaze2004 was banging on about, you are committing tomfoolery in more ways than one, and yes, I said tomfoolery.

l_mac
01-26-2008, 01:12 AM
edit: :) Not worth the effort.

kobulingam
01-26-2008, 01:14 AM
Isn't kobulingam more of a Rafa fan?

I'm a Fedal fan. I don't really like Djokovic (reminds me of Kim Clijsters).

Marek.
01-26-2008, 01:17 AM
I'm a Fedal fan. I don't really like Djokovic (reminds me of Kim Clijsters).

Oh okay.

Farenhajt
01-26-2008, 01:17 AM
Yeah without the e, whatever, also been through several of your posts and you have made so many errors, big deal.

My point is you used to constantly make excuses with Nadal about his knees and something happens to Federer and you cannot appreciate the fact he cannot play 100%.

Hell, if this was Nadal you would be constantly bitching about it, complaining, defending his early loss (infact I doubt he would have even played) Infact you are this person who that retard, Blaze2004 was banging on about, you are committing tomfoolery in more ways than one, and yes, I said tomfoolery.

Hey, give l_mac a break - hell, she's Scottish, therefore destined to function on excuses due to cause celebre of Andy Murray ;)

l_mac
01-26-2008, 01:18 AM
Hey, give l_mac a break - hell, she's Scottish, therefore destined to function on excuses due to cause celebre of Andy Murray ;)

How gallant.

Burrow
01-26-2008, 01:19 AM
Fuck, I always get that muddled up. Okay, I am an idiot for that. Moving swiftly on...

And yes you do sound like a hypocri..hypocrit..e, you are basically saying he is making an excuse which is pathetic. Yes? Yes you are. Yet you are constantly making excuses for Nadal.

Why do you seem agitated that this guy is just giving his take on the matter saying Federer might have had a problem out on court? Slight jealousy your favourite player played even worse than Federer and he was fully fit? :lol:

ReturnWinner
01-26-2008, 01:24 AM
Yeah without the e, whatever, also been through several of your posts and you have made so many errors, big deal.

My point is you used to constantly make excuses with Nadal about his knees and something happens to Federer and you cannot appreciate the fact he cannot play 100%.

Hell, if this was Nadal you would be constantly bitching about it, complaining, defending his early loss (infact I doubt he would have even played) Infact you are this person who that retard, Blaze2004 was banging on about, you are committing tomfoolery in more ways than one, and yes, I said tomfoolery.

quote me any cheap excuse i have ever made about Nalbandian, for example I said he lost against Ferrero by his back injury?? no I did not, speaking about Federer he just got a simple virus and he got recovered just in time, he had not Ebola,hepatitis or some other powerful virus :rolleyes:, Federer himself said he was 100% fit for the tournament.

l_mac
01-26-2008, 01:27 AM
Fuck, I always get that muddled up. Okay, I am an idiot for that. Moving swiftly on...

Don't make me feel bad for calling you an idiot. I edited my post.

And yes you do sound like a hypocri..hypocrit..e, you are basically saying he is making an excuse which is pathetic. Yes? Yes you are. Yet you are constantly making excuses for Nadal.

I'm not saying that at all.

Why do you seem agitated that this guy is just giving his take on the matter saying Federer might have had a problem out on court? Slight jealousy your favourite player played even worse than Federer and he was fully fit? :lol:

I thought my reply to the OP was quite jokey in tone. If you want to see agitated look at my posts in any thread with "Djokovic" in the title :rolleyes:

Burrow
01-26-2008, 01:30 AM
Cool man.

juninhOH
01-26-2008, 02:14 AM
Seriously, I think Nalbandian's back problem was more a problem for him than the stomach virus to Federer, but problems DEFINITELY were a very negative thing in both players fitness for the tourney.

kobulingam
01-26-2008, 02:17 AM
People are underestimating how even a 5% drop in form due to some illness can affect a tennis player.

Remember Djokovic at the end of last year? He was weak after a long season and routine surgery on his tooth. This affected him for several months.

Nalbandian's back and lack of warmup clearly affected him.

Federer has been VERY VERY LUCKY with injuries and things like this in the past. Finally he gets hit with something and Djokovic played well to beat him.

No way was Federer moving as well as he can. He was moving MUCH MUCH better at TMC2007.

fleabitten
01-26-2008, 02:23 AM
This smells a lot like an excuse.
It reads a lot like an excuse.
It is, in fact, an excuse.

LOL! So true. It is an excuse, but some excuses are valid ones.
By the way, I think your "Tenass" signature is the funniest thing I've seen in a very long time. I know they'd love that over at Tennisopolis!

Bremen
01-26-2008, 03:52 AM
Here's something from tennis.com that might shed a little light on this:

his loss was important in another way: it's the first time something out of Federer's control has impeded him at a major event. He has remained remarkably healthy over the years, largely because of hard work. This year, however, he caught a stomach virus before the tournament began. I didn't think he had suffered any long term effects from that illness--and the hiccup in his preparation--until the last two matches, against Tomas Berdych and James Blake. Federer didn't move as well as he usually does. Arnaud Boetsch, the former French pro who sat in Federer's box tonight, said the virus had taken its toll.

"I just arrived a few days ago but against James Blake, already I felt that he was a bit behind the ball, he was not moving so fast, forehand is always a bit late," Boetsch said. "And today it was, I don't want to say worse, but you can see it because Djokovic is really on the ball, is a fighter, is a control player. Usually [Federer] is flying on the court. Remember when he won the U.S. Open or this kind of event? He's just flying, he's everywhere."

Federer didn't take flight tonight. But I'm guessing it won't be long before he does again. Until then, applaud the first first-time Grand Slam title winner--either Djokovic or Jo-Wilfried Tsonga--since Rafael Nadal won his first French Open in 2005.

DDrago2
01-26-2008, 07:03 AM
no, the real reson why Fed lost is that he realised that he plays in a mug era so he lost motivation. he will instead go on dreaming over night how he competes in the lion era

Action Jackson
01-26-2008, 09:33 AM
Not enough excuses in here.

Langers
01-26-2008, 09:37 AM
This is (not) an excuse for Federer's loss. But here goes...

I've had stomach flu and food poisoning (not same time) before, and
even after I got rid of it, it took me a good 2 weeks to feel 100%.
It affected me in subtle ways in every part of my life.


Even at work (where I'm a programmer), I was a tad slower and less
sharp during the 2 weeks. When playing tennis, my timing was off and
I felt a little "fat" (I wasn't fat, but I felt slower as if I had
gained weight). And I couldn't hit the ball as hard for long periods
of time.


This thing must have affected him. And I'm not including the fact
that it ruined his preparation/warm-up.
Wah, wah, wah!!!

:bigcry:

FedFan_2007
01-26-2008, 09:48 AM
The only thing I care to see is 100% fit and ready in Dubai, TMF ready to take scalps from round 1.

sports freak
01-26-2008, 10:29 AM
For some reason Fed X seemed a half a click slow,not only in his match against Novak but Blake aswell,this is not an excuse but un Fed like??seemed like he had concrete shoes?

Burrow
01-27-2008, 12:20 PM
Valid excuse. http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=116624