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McEnroe: "Henman in boring!"

tangerine_dream
06-14-2004, 05:21 PM
McEnroe - Henman is boring

John McEnroe has criticised Tim Henman for being too boring.

The three-time Wimbledon champion said Henman was the "classic example" of modern players, who were "robots" lacking personality.

"Henman should get with the fans. They are rooting for him! Respond to them, harness their energy, love them back!" McEnroe told the Radio Times.

"If he could do that, Henman could win on grass. Call it acting, but it would energise the game."

McEnroe, one of the all-time greats, became infamous during his career for his outbursts during games.

"A lot of the players are Darth Vader types to me. OK, so they're great athletes. But where's the passion, the feeling?" he added.

"It seems to me that even if you, the audience, really dislike the guy on the court, it's better to feel that than to feel nothing. They walk around in a bubble that's all professional sport and no life.

"We need more daring attempts to entertain. The players don't seem happy to be out there."

McEnroe won three men's singles titles at Wimbledon and also won the US Open three years in a row during the 1980s.

He continued: "These kids have to do all these tournaments, show up on the circuit, because that's business, but then they can't get into the big ones that we really care about.

"They walk around with their heads down. If they're 15 in the world, they're miserable because all they can think about is the 14 people better than them.

"They walk around in a bubble that's all professional sport and no life. We need to work out a way of promoting them, or the game will go down.

"They need to be accessible to their fans. Who wants to watch robots all day?"

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Yes, I agree. Henman needs to smash a few rackets, fake a cramp, or pull his pants down. Athletes are also entertainers. ;)

Thanks for providing more publicity for Wimby and Henman, Johnny Mac. :yeah:

Fostin
06-14-2004, 05:24 PM
I absolutely-totally agree.. LOL maybe he is kind of tough how he said it... but MAN that guy is soooooooooooo boring and cold... I can fall asleep when watch him playing...

Socket
06-14-2004, 05:25 PM
Oh, tsk, tsk, Johnny Mac is off his meds again . . .

Deboogle!.
06-14-2004, 05:26 PM
I agree with what he's saying. I happen to like Tim but most of my faves are my faves b/c they draw me in with their emotions on court.

jtipson
06-14-2004, 05:28 PM
He's always saying this about Henman. Just because John's personality is "out there" doesn't mean to say everyone else's has to be too. I think it would be really wrong for Tim to be like that, it's just not him. Henman seems to be playing so much better now, and part of this is due to him being more stable and less emotional on court.

The last thing we need is more McEnroe antics in tennis. I love his talent, and his commentating is enlightening and amusing, but his temper was the pits.

Fostin
06-14-2004, 05:31 PM
I think McEnroe is very tough this comment, Its the way Tim plays... and that`s all, that`s his personality... he focus sooo much in his game... I prefer guys like RODDICK OR CORIA OR GUGA... THEY LEAVE ALL IN THE COURT... AND YOU CAN SEE IT!

gravity
06-14-2004, 05:32 PM
I agree with jtipson....... although it would be completely hilarious to see Henman suddenly start swearing repeatedly at chair umpires, smashing his way through several racquets and screaming violent words of wisdom at his home crowd.

Deboogle!.
06-14-2004, 05:33 PM
I took his point as if Tim would let the crowd pump him up instead of add pressure, he might break through his problems at Wimby. I didn't take it that he was suggesting Tim throw temper tantrums.

and Fostin, I totally agree :)

MissPovaFan
06-14-2004, 05:35 PM
Very harsh words by McEnroe and total rubbish if you ask me! Henman's style of serve volleying tennis is very exciting! He certainly wowed us during the clay court season!

Rex
06-14-2004, 05:36 PM
i can agree, but mcenroe had THAT kind of personality, henamn is quiet and plays a modern game, but look how far he has gone!

jtipson
06-14-2004, 05:38 PM
No, I'm sure you're right that Mac wasn't suggesting he explode on Centre Court :)

But I do think Tim has allowed himself to be affected by the crowd in the past, and whilst that can help, it can also do a lot of damage. It has contributed to some of his defeats in the past, especially at Wimbledon IMO. Federer is similar, if he doesn't have his emotions under control, he has a real problem in his matches.

lsy
06-14-2004, 05:38 PM
Well said jtipson.

Leo
06-14-2004, 05:46 PM
Oh yes, he needs to love the fans back and then he can win on grass. :rolleyes:

Corey Feldman
06-14-2004, 05:49 PM
mcenroe himself even called henman an entertainer at wimbledon 2 years ago when he played ferreira, but yes tim can use the crowd alot more (by making 10 of them line up at net when hewitt is passing tim all day long)

Corey Feldman
06-14-2004, 05:50 PM
Oh yes, he needs to love the fans back and then he can win on grass. :rolleyes:
lol

gravity
06-14-2004, 05:58 PM
Well McEnroe always comes out with a controversial statement before a major tournament; has that need to remain newsworthy just because he can't do it on the court anymore.

BaselineSmash
06-14-2004, 06:00 PM
Mcenroe usually entertains me with his commentary (be it live or in articles), but he is spewing utter tripe with this latest interview. God forbid if Henman actually takes any of this shit onboard. Tim is no more or less expressive than someone like Federer or Ferrero. Take a look through the Wimbledon highlights over the years and you'll see plenty of chest-pumping, (minor) spats with umpires and a generally very irritable on court persona. The guy is burdened with pressure at Wimbledon (the only tournament I think he deserves sympathy for in his myriad instances of choking), and you can read the ton of nervousness his body is riddled with by looking at his face. Personally I feel nauseas when I watch him, because I can sense how shot up he is emotionally. Hell, he had to be given smelling salts in the 4th Round in 2002, a treatment which was necessary because of nervousness, as esteemed trainer Bill Norris said.

I do not agree that he is an emotionless "Darth Vader" on court at all. I think he tries too hard most of the time and comes up short mentally, and his dissapointment upon loss is horrible to behold. I think he needs to be less emotional, more relaxed; acting up like an obnoxious prick a la Mcenroe would not do his game any good. Just ask RUSEDSKI. We all know what happened to him when leading 5-2 against Roddick in the third and let forth a riot of expletives over an insignificant point.

Henman has to learn to sustain the sequences of relaxed play he has shown in flashes this year. Mcenroe is not as sharp as I thought if he thinks riling the crowd/opponent/umpire is an effective play for every supposed non-emotive guy on the tour. Just because it worked for him doesn't mean it will cross over for everyone. Or can Mcenroe really not comprehend that fact? :rolleyes:

star
06-14-2004, 06:09 PM
I think part of Henman's problem at Wimbledon is that the crowd is SO emotionally bound up with him.

It's not the sort of crowd that cheers raucously for their favorite. It's so TENSE. When Henman loses a point...any point.... the crowd has this vast intake of breath and collective moan. It's a dreadful sound. I've been in American crowds that support Andre or Pete to a nauseating level (imo) and there isn't this horrible sound when they lose a point.

Virgina.... uh... whatshername... said that was the worst part about playing at Wimbledon.

¿esquímaux?
06-14-2004, 06:31 PM
I don't find Timbo boring, then again it's not his game I'm watching :rolleyes::p

amethyst
06-14-2004, 06:43 PM
McEnroes biggest problem is that he can´t understand/accept that not every player wants to act like HIMSELF. And if he finds these "Darth Vader Players" soooo boring he should stop commentating and watch some Star Wars videos instead to keep himself entertained.

Havok
06-14-2004, 06:57 PM
Well I find Henman extremely boring, but not because he doesn't interact with the crowd, I just detest serve and volleyers:p but I don't hate the guy, hope he does good at Wimbledon like always;)

lalaland
06-14-2004, 07:08 PM
McEnroe - Henman is boring
"They need to be accessible to their fans. Who wants to watch robots all day?"


Who needs to watch tennis when they can go to the circus. :rolleyes:

Perhaps he can give fans credit that some of us actually watch the skills and tactics on court so players need no acts to get crowd excited.

SanTaureau Fan
06-14-2004, 07:17 PM
First I don't see how Henman is so boring? He isn't really different than most other guys on the tour.

But most importantly, we just have to respect people personnality. People are the way they are and we're not going to change them. They shouldn't have to change their personnality just to make tennis more entertaining.

TennisLurker
06-14-2004, 08:18 PM
henman is there to entertain with his tennis, not with his personality.

Goran had a funny personality, but his ace or double fault game would usually put me to sleep.

I think tim is an exciting player to watch.

YoursTruly
06-14-2004, 08:47 PM
Maybe they should try covering matches of various pros instead of the usual hyped-star formula. Then we may see different emotions, personalities, styles of play and a chance to promote other people and last but not least, THE GAME OF TENNIS! Sorry, but you can't change the character of a person. ;)

*Ljubica*
06-14-2004, 09:36 PM
He's always saying this about Henman. Just because John's personality is "out there" doesn't mean to say everyone else's has to be too. I think it would be really wrong for Tim to be like that, it's just not him. Henman seems to be playing so much better now, and part of this is due to him being more stable and less emotional on court.

The last thing we need is more McEnroe antics in tennis. I love his talent, and his commentating is enlightening and amusing, but his temper was the pits.

Totally agree jtipson. Tim is a quiet, reserved, pleasant guy - I don't particularly like watching him play because I don't like serve and volley, but I have nothing but praise for his behaviour on or off the court. He is a true gentleman - he's not loud, or brash or aggresive, and to make him behave like that and call it "entertainment" is totally wrong in my opinion. It's not entertainment to behave like Johnny Mac or Jimmy Connors did - I think it's just plain bad manners. Johnny Mac is a great commentator though!

Sjengster
06-14-2004, 09:54 PM
Yawn. Of course it's all down to individual preference, but personally I can't STAND players who act up on court and show their emotions. It doesn't matter whether it's Roddick, Coria, Hewitt, the Williams sisters - I feel like telling the lot of 'em to shut up and play the ball, which is what all my favourite players manage to do and still win most of the time. Henman does get fired up occasionally, but I concur that this relentless style of fist-pumping is not him. He hasn't lost at Wimbledon in recent times because he's been too introverted and not gotten the crowd on his side enough; he's lost because every time he steps up to the line to serve you don't know whether he's going to scrape out a hold or whether his opponent's going to crunch return winners off his serve and break him with embarrassing ease.

I mean come on, can he get the crowd any more on his side? star is quite right about the crowd support, it's not the kind of raucously indulgent support you get at other majors but a kind of panicked desperation. Just watch one of his matches this year, after the first point has been played, win or lose, the first faint cries of "Come on Tim!" will be emerging from the rafters. He always says he enjoys the vocal crowds and that they have helped him out of so many tough situations, e.g. the Kratochvil match in 2002, but I can't help thinking that they often get him into them in the first place. It's no coincidence to me that his best performances recently have been in Paris, both indoors and on clay, and in Monte Carlo, where the support is French - it's enthusiastic and appreciative but it's not a matter of life or death. Make him play in front of half-empty stands on Centre Court every year and I'm sure every match wouldn't be such an ordeal, for him to play and us to watch.

star
06-14-2004, 09:58 PM
Isn't Henman the guy who got sanctioned for abusing a ball kid?

From reading these posts I begining to think he's up for beatification. ;)

Sjengster
06-14-2004, 10:03 PM
"Would hate to have you as a father, Mr Henman" - does Rose agree, I wonder? Yes, maybe a little ballkid abuse would aid his cause no end. McEnroe was the one who said last year after the Rusedski outburst that it was the kind of thing we should be seeing more of in tennis "minus the language, of course". I find it rather funny that he should be condemning another player for swearing.

Carito_90
06-14-2004, 10:16 PM
Isn't Henman the guy who got sanctioned for abusing a ball kid?

Yes i read that. He told the ball kid that he was too slow, and then he told the umpire that he didn't want to see that kid again. The ball kid ended up crying.
I don't know if you're refering to this situation, but this is what i read. I dunno in which match happened.

I get what John was trying to say and I agree. I personally don't like serve/volley so i don't find his game very interesting and his personality's too... how to describe it... cold maybe. He doesn't seem happy not even when he wins. It gets to the point that it becomes annoying.
I don't really mind Henman you know, i just stay away from his matches, don't watch em, that's all.

BaselineSmash
06-14-2004, 10:25 PM
Yes i read that. He told the ball kid that he was too slow, and then he told the umpire that he didn't want to see that kid again. The ball kid ended up crying.
I don't know if you're refering to this situation, but this is what i read. I dunno in which match happened.


Yeah, that was a jolly bad show from Henman; it was in IW this year.

But he wasn't fined for that. It was in 1995 at Wimbledon, in a doubles match no less, where he was defaulted for hitting a ballgirl (with a ball, of course) in anger. :rolleyes:

BaselineSmash
06-14-2004, 10:39 PM
Wrong thread. :D

Sjengster
06-14-2004, 10:53 PM
One should emphasise that Henman didn't specifically target the ballgirl with the ball, he hit it down the court in anger and it hit her (unlike, say, Agassi's deliberate aiming of a serve at a line judge during that Wimbledon match with Rafter, to which both crowd and commentators alike chuckled with hilarity - oh, I love the double standards that surround Agassi), but it was still an unwarranted and regrettable act and that sort of thing does nothing to improve his game whatsoever. "Yeah definitely, I felt it was important to, you know, get the job done and beat the hell out of that short-sighted moron - he should operate Cyclops now because he looks like one after what I've done to him."

BaselineSmash
06-14-2004, 11:02 PM
One should emphasise that Henman didn't specifically target the ballgirl with the ball, he hit it down the court in anger and it hit her (unlike, say, Agassi's deliberate aiming of a serve at a line judge during that Wimbledon match with Rafter, to which both crowd and commentators alike chuckled with hilarity - oh, I love the double standards that surround Agassi), but it was still an unwarranted and regrettable act and that sort of thing does nothing to improve his game whatsoever. "Yeah definitely, I felt it was important to, you know, get the job done and beat the hell out of that short-sighted moron - he should operate Cyclops now because he looks like one after what I've done to him."

I would like to think most people would take it for granted that he didn't mean to hit the ballgirl. Then again, the way he was treating that boy in Indian Wells, had he hit him with a ball it would have been suspicious to say the least...

Sjengster
06-14-2004, 11:07 PM
Well, you never know what some may think - Henman can be a grumpy and ridiculously fussy individual on court at times, I'll never forget that year he was playing an indoor tournament and demanded that the tiny curtain right at the back of the hall be closed because it was distracting him. I swear, if it had been anyone else other than Agassi who deliberately hit a ball at an official that player would have been villified for the rest of time. But no, it's only good old Andre being a character on court and once more proving he is a true gentleman.

Lestat
06-14-2004, 11:35 PM
Wrong thread. :D

I dont know why i put that answer in this thread :banghead:
wow, Im becoming crazy :silly:

Corey Feldman
06-14-2004, 11:58 PM
did henman really abuse a little fatty ball kid ? i only remember 1 year in Brighton when he played Hrbaty, he gave 1 ball kid abuse for not handing him his towel fast enuff.

BaselineSmash
06-15-2004, 12:28 AM
Escude, here's the relevant link...

Bad Timmy (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=9571)

Carito_90
06-15-2004, 12:36 AM
Uhuh, that's what i was talking about BaselineSmash.

Simply another reason to dislike Henman :)

Corey Feldman
06-15-2004, 12:40 AM
tsk tsk timothy, that poor lil fat boy sobbing his eyes out because of you!

MissPovaFan
06-15-2004, 12:44 AM
Id assume that whole incident was blown way out of proportion - its the same with some of Andy Roddick's 'antics' which are usually harmless enough.

Corey Feldman
06-15-2004, 12:54 AM
Id assume that whole incident was blown way out of proportion - its the same with some of Andy Roddick's 'antics' which are usually harmless enough.
altho, did you watch roddick v ancic in queens last week, after ancic won the 2nd set andy had a right good moan ( plenty of f words) at the umpire, something about ancic's grunting, and a-rod made sure ancic heard him, sounded like ancic said something at the change over and andy said something back, but i think ancic just ignored him and a-rod had that sorta "oh whatever" look on his face hehe, anyway i was pleased andy won.

BaselineSmash
06-15-2004, 12:56 AM
Uhuh, that's what i was talking about BaselineSmash.

Simply another reason to dislike Henman :)

:lol: There are plenty of reasons for sure, but a true tennis fan always allows their morals to be overriden by a dazzling forehand approach, followed by a drop volley winner. :)

MissPovaFan
06-15-2004, 12:56 AM
I think Roddick can be a bit of a sore loser if things aren't going his way but generally I feel hes a good sport as are most players.

hitchhiker
06-15-2004, 01:06 AM
this pom should show some personality for a change, even if he did win the boring english crowd would just clap and henman would do a fist pump *yyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnn*
need some people with personality on the court like Roddick

gravity
06-15-2004, 01:12 AM
Thanks big mac for helping us start up another Henman hating thread. Why has nobody commented on Henman's filthy yellow rotting teeth yet?

denim
06-15-2004, 01:24 AM
Its just not timbos personality, it would look so weird and fake if he started playing up to crowd, throwing racket around, he's too stefan edberg, Henman would need special classes in how to swear. I mean saying to umpire "oh fiddlesticks its a let" or "oh poppycock it was at least a foot long" wouldn't cut it.

Macs point is it would be so great if Henman had an anger side when he's throwing chances away and fired himself and lived off that adrenilyn but sorry all you are gonna see from Tim is odd frown and head shake.

GET ANGRY HENMAN !!!

denim
06-15-2004, 01:27 AM
Thanks big mac for helping us start up another Henman hating thread. Why has nobody commented on Henman's filthy yellow rotting teeth yet?



:lol: now now, thats not fair on mrs henman, everyone is allowed a fetish.

Corey Feldman
06-15-2004, 01:29 AM
Its just not timbos personality, it would look so weird and fake if he started playing up to crowd, throwing racket around, he's too stefan edberg, Henman would need special classes in how to swear. I mean saying to umpire "oh fiddlesticks its a let" or "oh poppycock it was at least a foot long" wouldn't cut it.

Macs point is it would be so great if Henman had an anger side when he's throwing chances away and fired himself and lived off that adrenilyn but sorry all you are gonna see from Tim is odd frown and head shake.

GET ANGRY HENMAN !!!
lollll "oh poppycock it was at least a foot long" even poppy'cock' seems a bit raw for young timothy :)

jtipson
06-15-2004, 07:59 AM
this pom should show some personality for a change, even if he did win the boring english crowd would just clap and henman would do a fist pump *yyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnn*
need some people with personality on the court like Roddick

If Henman won the whole country would have a holiday. Just imagine if England won the Euro2004 on 4th of July as well (although based on Sunday's performance, I think I'd rather put a bet on Tim)!

HH (or should I say RR), you can keep Roddick at home in the US (where he stays most of the time anyway). Personally I find his game boring and on court personality tiring. We have better taste here.

*Ljubica*
06-15-2004, 09:06 AM
HH (or should I say RR), you can keep Roddick at home in the US (where he stays most of the time anyway). Personally I find his game boring and on court personality tiring. We have better taste here.


:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

hitchhiker
06-15-2004, 09:26 AM
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

i bet your not even a fan of henman since you have nablooblindoian in your picture

Lalitha
06-15-2004, 09:51 AM
McEnroe - Henman is boring

John McEnroe has criticised Tim Henman for being too boring.

The three-time Wimbledon champion said Henman was the "classic example" of modern players, who were "robots" lacking personality.

"A lot of the players are Darth Vader types to me. OK, so they're great athletes. But where's the passion, the feeling?" he added.

:yeah:


Is 'barking' at an umpire is called passion?? If it is so, better not to have that passion at all.

I wonder what he has to say about Sampras who hardly shows any emotions on court.

Corey Feldman
06-15-2004, 12:03 PM
If Henman won the whole country would have a holiday. Just imagine if England won the Euro2004 on 4th of July as well (although based on Sunday's performance, I think I'd rather put a bet on Tim)!

HH (or should I say RR), you can keep Roddick at home in the US (where he stays most of the time anyway). Personally I find his game boring and on court personality tiring. We have better taste here.

so wimbledon final/euro 04 final is on the same day?? well if any of them won im sure the english would get some kinda holidays ....not us scots tho :cry: lol

mind you, federer and france will take care of my worries ;)

merle
06-15-2004, 02:09 PM
so wimbledon final/euro 04 final is on the same day?? well if any of them won im sure the english would get some kinda holidays ....not us scots tho :cry: lol

mind you, federer and france will take care of my worries ;)

:haha: :haha:

jtipson
06-15-2004, 02:13 PM
mind you, federer and france will take care of my worries ;)

You might be able to leave all your worries to the Swissies :)

*Ljubica*
06-15-2004, 02:19 PM
i bet your not even a fan of henman since you have nablooblindoian in your picture

No I'm not particularly a fan of Henman HH, because unlike you I'm not bigoted enough to only support players from my country of origin. However, I do have a great respect for Henman as a player and a person, - just because he is quiet doesn't mean he's boring, in the same way that just because a person is brash and loud it doesn't make them interesting or a "personality".

Crazy_Fool
06-15-2004, 02:29 PM
I think Henman is boring, but so is Federer, Ferrero, Agassi, Coria and many others. I can only think of Safin or Roddick of top players who associate the crowd with them, most players thesedays seem to lack personality out on the court.

Corey Feldman
06-15-2004, 03:01 PM
You might be able to leave all your worries to the Swissies :)
true, i wonder what the odds are of the team who eventually put england out of euro 04, will be the same nationality of who beats henman at wimbledon, could be ivanisevic-croatia again!, federer-swiss, grosjean-france (final, aye like england will get that far), holland-verkerk, italy-sanguientti, denmark-kenneth carlsen :)

akin
06-15-2004, 08:42 PM
I agree with Mac

Fumus
06-15-2004, 08:44 PM
I think Henman is boring, but so is Federer, Ferrero, Agassi, Coria and many others. I can only think of Safin or Roddick of top players who associate the crowd with them, most players thesedays seem to lack personality out on the court.

Federer, Coria, Agassi are boring, I guess you are aptly named.

akin
06-15-2004, 09:14 PM
Is 'barking' at an umpire is called passion?? If it is so, better not to have that passion at all.

I wonder what he has to say about Sampras who hardly shows any emotions on court.

WOOF WOOF!! :dog:

Vass
06-15-2004, 10:52 PM
I think McEnroe shouldn't have named Henman alone. There are many players like who don't bring in personality into the sport, so it was not right to name Henman.

Haasfan
06-15-2004, 11:06 PM
I hate this type of comments about Tim's personality. He's just an ordinary guy from next-door. Since when has he got to suddenly become some extravagant, flamboyant player.

Why does the media scrutinise Tim so much? They critise him when he does show emotion with his little clenched fist. They accuse him of having no humour. I feel so sad for the treatment Tim receives, that all the good work he has done for British tennis is conveniently forgotten because he fails to win Wimbledon, which is definelty one of the hardest, and most revered tournaments in the world.

Hey, I would say the majority of tennis players are boring, with the exception of Roddick and Safin, I wouldnt say many are that interesting. So why does Tim have to be the complete package?????? I think Mac should be ashamed of himself, what's worse than a boring player, is a boring player who tries to appear interesting, which is what Mcenroe is basically encouraging Tim to become. I think Mac should have his head examined, that really wasn't an intelligent comment at all. However I can't say im surprised, Mac churns out alot of bullshit sometimes, despite the odd witty comment.

The facts are Tim is the best player England has ever produced. He had next to no backing from the LTA. He, along with his father managed to make him a bloody good player, 4 Grand Slam semifinals cant be wrong. Tim has served his country well enough, and deserves credit not criticism. These demands to make his into the talent of Sampras, and the personality of Goran n Mac all into one are just asanine and ridiculous. Leave Tim alone, hes nice enough anyway, he deserves his peace.

alfonsojose
06-16-2004, 01:43 AM
"A lot of the players are Darth Vader types to me. OK, so they're great athletes. But where's the passion, the feeling?" he added.

Better Darth Vader than C3PO. He talks all the time :tape: But i agree with him about this one.

alfonsojose
06-16-2004, 01:46 AM
But he's completely wrong about Henman

Shy
06-16-2004, 01:50 AM
Does a player need to be flamboyant on court to have a personality?No The fact that Andy and Marat are louder than other doesn't mean that they have more interesting personality.

athie
06-16-2004, 01:51 AM
I completely agree with you there Haasfan. McEnroe do be quiet.

athie
06-16-2004, 05:43 AM
Misc photo's from Celebrity Finals Day for Ariel Tennis Ace on June 14th.

There are no words....

Lalitha
06-16-2004, 06:28 AM
I think McEnroe shouldn't have named Henman alone. There are many players like who don't bring in personality into the sport, so it was not right to name Henman.

Yes Indeed.

And what about players like Andy, Marat, Lleyton??? Are'nt they enough passionate on court???

May be John Mac can open his own academy on how to 'entertain'(if that's what he calls it) the crowds.

Vass
06-16-2004, 08:31 AM
Yes Indeed.

And what about players like Andy, Marat, Lleyton??? Are'nt they enough passionate on court???

John wasn't talking about them, I'm sure. They are the exceptions of the boring rule...

May be John Mac can open his own academy on how to 'entertain'(if that's what he calls it) the crowds. He was MAD oncourt when he was playing. For him this is personality. Those who are even remotely similar to him are more interesting. That's a psychological thing perhaps. He's over criticizing, yes, but he's right in the rest of the interview. His only mistake I'd say is that fact that he mentioned Tim's name. Where as he should have been talking about an "average tennis player".

Frooty_Bazooty
06-16-2004, 08:49 AM
tangy, i love your avatar :lol:

Lynne
06-16-2004, 11:24 AM
I agree with jtipson....... although it would be completely hilarious to see Henman suddenly start swearing repeatedly at chair umpires, smashing his way through several racquets and screaming violent words of wisdom at his home crowd.

Lol, if he starts doing that, the crowd might even dislike him for the sudden change in attitude....

Lalitha
06-16-2004, 11:48 AM
John wasn't talking about them, I'm sure. They are the exceptions of the boring rule...

He was MAD oncourt when he was playing. For him this is personality. Those who are even remotely similar to him are more interesting. That's a psychological thing perhaps. He's over criticizing, yes, but he's right in the rest of the interview. His only mistake I'd say is that fact that he mentioned Tim's name. Where as he should have been talking about an "average tennis player".

It may be a psychological thing, but I don't think he comments anything about the players who are like him.

Bjorn Borg was'nt anything like him. But he has the same respect as John McEnroe. It's just their personality.

Auscon
06-16-2004, 01:57 PM
I love to see passion from a player on court, which is one reason why I'm a Hewitt fan, but I dont see any reason why every player should be like that

If he decided to take on Johns words and act up a bit at Wimbledon, he'll probably do one little thing, and then will keep dwelling on how bad he thinks he looked when he did it, and so it'll put him right off his game for the remainder of the tournament :)

However I dont think Tim could give a rats arse about what John had to say

alfonsojose
06-16-2004, 02:29 PM
Federer, Coria, Agassi are boring, I guess you are aptly named.

Federer's game is exciting. Federer the person makes me fall asleep :zzz:

star
06-16-2004, 02:34 PM
These players get so many conflicting messages. Have more personality. Act up. Show passion.

Then there's the other side........ fines, warnings, penalty points.

tangerine_dream
06-16-2004, 04:29 PM
I thought Henman was exciting enough at the French Open. That Coria match was awesome. And he was actually getting into it; when he made this incredible backhand crosscourt volley, he did a fist pump, smiled and then danced back to the baseline. The audience went nuts. It was hilarious to see.

Oh, and thanks Frooty :) :hug:

CarnivalCarnage
06-16-2004, 07:35 PM
Is "boring" some sort of television program?

MissPovaFan
06-16-2004, 07:40 PM
I thought Henman was exciting enough at the French Open. That Coria match was awesome. And he was actually getting into it; when he made this incredible backhand crosscourt volley, he did a fist pump, smiled and then danced back to the baseline. The audience went nuts. It was hilarious to see.

Oh, and thanks Frooty :) :hug:

Exactly! It was one of the best matches of the tournament for sure! It had me on the edge of my seat at times! It was brilliant the way the French crowd were behind Tim!

Vass
06-16-2004, 10:33 PM
Younes El Yanoui, Safin and Roddick should open a school with the following ad over the entrance: "School of Entertaining Tennis- group excercises for all levels".

Lalitha
06-17-2004, 06:21 AM
Safin can teach how to pull shorts down during match and then how to complain ATP that they don't allow the tennis players to entertain crowds.

btw, why did McEnroe did'nt comment on this???

Lalitha
06-18-2004, 12:20 PM
I'm sure some player should have commented on this. Someone or the other.

Any news on that?