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guille&tati4life
01-25-2008, 10:39 AM
As a person I have nothing at all against Djokovic, but on the court he annoys me a hell of a lot.
He's no Nadal in terms of time cheating, but on most crucial points he will go considerably over the time limit. He got warned against Federer, but what was the point in that? :shrug: He kept going over the limit and the umpire did nothing.
Still, a little bit of gamesmanship is something which I can accept, many players do it including some of my favourites, so I'm not going to complain about that too much. What really annoys me is the way the Djokovic camp and Novak himself respond to opposition fans.
Against Ferrer at the US Open last year the Djokovic camp and Serbian fans were incredibly loud and shouted after almost every point. I get it, they were excited because he was doing so well BUT every time any fans of Ferrer cheered everyone in Djokovic's camp, led by his father, would turn round and stare at these people as though they'd done something wrong.
The other night against Ferrer was possibly worse. The Serbian fans, especially screaming girls, were celebrating every point Djokovic won. When a Ferrer fan applauded a point however, Djokovic started shouting at the crowd and complaining. His fans and in fact his camp made much more noise than David's but you didn't see Ferrer complaining about that.
Again, today against Federer, his box were enraged by the fans of Federer. The row behind the immediate family of Djokovic stood up looking behind at some Fed fans all glaring and one of them shouting. It's as though his box think that Djokovic should be supported as loudly as possible but that on no account should anyone be allowed to so much as applaud an opponent's shot.

This isn't a reaction to the match because Federer lost btw, I don't particularly like or dislike Federer or Djokovic I just think that his box is as annoying as Sharapova's father.

ugotlobbed
01-25-2008, 10:41 AM
i think he does it on purpose to catch his breath with his asthma problems, imo he just doesnt tell pp

bokehlicious
01-25-2008, 10:41 AM
Good post :yeah: and very true...

Jaap
01-25-2008, 10:41 AM
Yep, Djokovic's entourage are the biggest set of mugs in tennis. No wonder Djerko is such an assclown himself.

Compare them to Federer's entourage....what entourage?

RickDaStick
01-25-2008, 10:42 AM
i dont have a problem with fans, any fans..people are finally getting excited about tennis.

ugotlobbed
01-25-2008, 10:42 AM
haha jaap did you bet on joker, anyways i think theres a diff in the crowd, serbians are more rowdy and crazy so some ppl may look down on that

ugotlobbed
01-25-2008, 10:45 AM
i mean, it comes down to east europe vs west europe, i personally am a more westernn euro type of guy, more of a intelligent crowd but not as crazy, some ppl like crazy, some ppl like to think more

Jaap
01-25-2008, 10:45 AM
haha jaap did you bet on joker, anyways i think theres a diff in the crowd, serbians are more rowdy and crazy so some ppl may look down on that

I only backed Fed not to win 3-0. After Djoko won that first set, I was rooting for Fed but he is finished.

ugotlobbed
01-25-2008, 10:46 AM
at least you won, i wanted to bet on tsonga 3-0 but had no money, since i am cold turkey for 6-7 months now

Exodus
01-25-2008, 10:46 AM
i hope Ali will murder him on sunday so his annoying parents can shut up

ugotlobbed
01-25-2008, 10:47 AM
ali? lol i do agree his family looks a bit, yuri sharapov

BalkanBoy
01-25-2008, 10:47 AM
Nole owned your Federer bitch so shut up. Nole's father was looking at Serbian fans who were cheering Nole! Nole! when he had to serve so you fail there too. Again you're just a frustrated idiot.

aussie_fan
01-25-2008, 10:48 AM
i agree with you, it annoys me too, i think the ball bouncing is incredibly bad sportsmanship and surprises me nothing is done about it. No question he was the much better player tonight though.

Magenta
01-25-2008, 10:49 AM
The Serbian fans in Australia are annoying, I'll conceed that quite easily.

There was nothing wrong today though, they were excited.

valexie03
01-25-2008, 10:49 AM
Excellent post guille&tati4life :yeah:

Exodus
01-25-2008, 10:50 AM
i have no problem him beating roger actually it's good for tennis im so tired of roger winning every time.

yomike
01-25-2008, 10:51 AM
As long as I don't see the fake injury timeouts and retirements, it's fine.

peteroger
01-25-2008, 10:52 AM
couldn't agree more

As a person I have nothing at all against Djokovic, but on the court he annoys me a hell of a lot.
He's no Nadal in terms of time cheating, but on most crucial points he will go considerably over the time limit. He got warned against Federer, but what was the point in that? :shrug: He kept going over the limit and the umpire did nothing.
Still, a little bit of gamesmanship is something which I can accept, many players do it including some of my favourites, so I'm not going to complain about that too much. What really annoys me is the way the Djokovic camp and Novak himself respond to opposition fans.
Against Ferrer at the US Open last year the Djokovic camp and Serbian fans were incredibly loud and shouted after almost every point. I get it, they were excited because he was doing so well BUT every time any fans of Ferrer cheered everyone in Djokovic's camp, led by his father, would turn round and stare at these people as though they'd done something wrong.
The other night against Ferrer was possibly worse. The Serbian fans, especially screaming girls, were celebrating every point Djokovic won. When a Ferrer fan applauded a point however, Djokovic started shouting at the crowd and complaining. His fans and in fact his camp made much more noise than David's but you didn't see Ferrer complaining about that.
Again, today against Federer, his box were enraged by the fans of Federer. The row behind the immediate family of Djokovic stood up looking behind at some Fed fans all glaring and one of them shouting. It's as though his box think that Djokovic should be supported as loudly as possible but that on no account should anyone be allowed to so much as applaud an opponent's shot.

This isn't a reaction to the match because Federer lost btw, I don't particularly like or dislike Federer or Djokovic I just think that his box is as annoying as Sharapova's father.

guille&tati4life
01-25-2008, 10:52 AM
i mean, it comes down to east europe vs west europe, i personally am a more westernn euro type of guy, more of a intelligent crowd but not as crazy, some ppl like crazy, some ppl like to think more

I don't mind the crazy fans. I'm a big fan of Tipsarevic for example. It's just the hypocracy of it that annoys me.

Nole owned your Federer bitch so shut up. Nole's father was looking at Serbian fans who were cheering Nole! Nole! when he had to serve so you fail there too. Again you're just a frustrated idiot.

:lol:
He's not my Federer bitch, I don't care about Federer.

Well, according to Eurosport they were looking towards the Swiss fans, can't say I know as I couldn't see, just trusting commentary and past experience. Anyway, certainly in both matches against Ferrer what I said was accurate, so it's not like they don't do it.

aeronatasha
01-25-2008, 10:57 AM
Novak got angry with his own fans. It's Federer who actually asked one of his own fans to calm down during Novak's serve in 2nd set.

Get your facts straight.

I don't like Novak's parents either, but it's not like they go around punching people. They're just overly excited.

Who cares.

But the look on Mirka's face was PRICELESS.:devil:

Krikry
01-25-2008, 10:58 AM
I've nothing against Nole's parents! I mean, they are far away from Youri Sharapov or Williams' father!

And his father wasn't arguing with a Fed's fan...

And we all know that Djokovic has respiration problems. This is maybe the reason why he sometimes goes over the time limit, isn't?

He really deserves to play the final and win this tournment!

*Ljubica*
01-25-2008, 10:58 AM
As I said on another thread - I like Nole AND his family - I've met them loads of times and don't have a problem with any of them at all :shrug:

His "time-wasting" is nowhere near as bad as the ghastly a***-picker Nadal :devil: and although his family get a bit "over-excited" at times, I've seen far worse :rolleyes: If you have ever had the misfortune to share a Players' Guest Box with Mrs. Judy Murray (as I have) you will know she was always the worst for jumping around, shouting, flinging her arms about, swearing, shrieking, and sometimes even hitting the oppostion's entourage (not intentionally of course - just in her excitement), and obscuring their view. Nole's brothers are still kids - they still have tme to grow up and mature - what is her excuse?

ugotlobbed
01-25-2008, 10:58 AM
But the look on Mirka's face was PRICELESS.:devil:[/QUOTE]

lol mirka, priceless, at least she cares i guess, but she needs to lose weight honestly

Jogy
01-25-2008, 11:01 AM
Sure that guille&tati must find something bad on Djokovic now, now when Ego King got beaten so easily

do you know what annoys me about Federer? his arrogant face, his unfair girlfriend Mirka who never shows credit to the player and his whole entourage with the jerks that sitting there in Federer's box and the swiss fans with the stupid flags or cow bells... damn are they annoying, every time somebody claps for the opponent, they say something to them or look angry over and say something with their nasty swiss language, maybe insults

oh man, was that great today to see their faces while have to see Federer getting the whip lash from Djoko

ReturnWinner
01-25-2008, 11:04 AM
its not nice, but the worst is the faking thing, at least he did not do today ;)

Jelena_78
01-25-2008, 11:04 AM
As a person I have nothing at all against Djokovic, but on the court he annoys me a hell of a lot.
He's no Nadal in terms of time cheating, but on most crucial points he will go considerably over the time limit. He got warned against Federer, but what was the point in that? :shrug: He kept going over the limit and the umpire did nothing.
Still, a little bit of gamesmanship is something which I can accept, many players do it including some of my favourites, so I'm not going to complain about that too much. What really annoys me is the way the Djokovic camp and Novak himself respond to opposition fans.
Against Ferrer at the US Open last year the Djokovic camp and Serbian fans were incredibly loud and shouted after almost every point. I get it, they were excited because he was doing so well BUT every time any fans of Ferrer cheered everyone in Djokovic's camp, led by his father, would turn round and stare at these people as though they'd done something wrong.
The other night against Ferrer was possibly worse. The Serbian fans, especially screaming girls, were celebrating every point Djokovic won. When a Ferrer fan applauded a point however, Djokovic started shouting at the crowd and complaining. His fans and in fact his camp made much more noise than David's but you didn't see Ferrer complaining about that.
Again, today against Federer, his box were enraged by the fans of Federer. The row behind the immediate family of Djokovic stood up looking behind at some Fed fans all glaring and one of them shouting. It's as though his box think that Djokovic should be supported as loudly as possible but that on no account should anyone be allowed to so much as applaud an opponent's shot.

This isn't a reaction to the match because Federer lost btw, I don't particularly like or dislike Federer or Djokovic I just think that his box is as annoying as Sharapova's father.


I thing it was not Ferrer's crowd he was talking to,...on the contrary he usually has problems with his own fans, who don't know when to shut up,and keep cheering for him during and between points...
And he goes like:rolleyes: will you shut the f up!!?

My opinion... ;)

ugotlobbed
01-25-2008, 11:05 AM
Sure that guille&tati must find something bad on Djokovic now, now when Ego King got beaten so easily

do you know what annoys me about Federer? his arrogant face, his unfair girlfriend Mirka who never shows credit to the player and his whole entourage with the jerks that sitting there in Federer's box and the swiss fans with the stupid flags or cow bells... damn are they annoying, every time somebody claps for the opponent, they say something to them or look angry over and say something with their nasty swiss language, maybe insults

oh man, was that great today to see their faces while have to see Federer getting the whip lash from Djoko

lol i guess you've never played competitive tennis or any competitive sport to understand the nature of "faces", how is mirka unfair again? dude get real

Stensland
01-25-2008, 11:07 AM
This is such an insulting ignorant post, especially considering what the Serbian people dealt with for 500 years of Muslim rule. Does Ivanovic's or Jankovic's family behave this way? Why is Novak's family suddenly representative of an entire nation?


you're right, they are not. which means they have no excuse for their behaviour whatsoever, it's solely down to them being absolute sharapovian tennis-proletarians. ;)


And they're just cheering - they aren't booing, insulting, obstructing in play, etc.


you'd need these kind of things to finally label them? wow...

Bibberz
01-25-2008, 11:11 AM
I don't think you can put Djokovic's on-court behavior or his family's support on par with Yuri Sharapov's misconduct. Sharapov openly coaches Maria and makes throat-slitting motions after wins. Which brings the sport down more?

Gagi1969
01-25-2008, 11:11 AM
Oh for Christs sake what a ignorant post!

Aloimeh
01-25-2008, 11:11 AM
you're right, they are not. which means they have no excuse for their behaviour whatsoever, it's solely down to them being absolute sharapovian tennis-proletarians. ;)



you'd need these kind of things to finally label them? wow...

Excuse me, is there anything objectively insulting about what they are doing? Do they cheer double faults? Are we actually talking about a sport here or a dinner party? Everyone seems to think that the player's friends and family should just sit like dead fish, suppressing all expression of emotion.

This is getting so pathetic, you are grasping for straws. Djokovic's injury timeouts, his impersonations of other players, his arrogance even - all this is legitimate criticism. But his parents T shirts and expressions of joy?

vincayou
01-25-2008, 11:12 AM
Yeah I have problem as well with Novak's entourage. Hey, not everyone can have a classy guy like uncle Toni.

guille&tati4life
01-25-2008, 11:12 AM
Oh for Christs sake what a ignorant post!

I'd say that not realising that it should be an ignorant post is pretty ignorant, true.

ReturnWinner
01-25-2008, 11:14 AM
Fakervic outplayed him , plain and simple.

Jaap
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
Sure that guille&tati must find something bad on Djokovic now, now when Ego King got beaten so easily

do you know what annoys me about Federer? his arrogant face, his unfair girlfriend Mirka who never shows credit to the player and his whole entourage with the jerks that sitting there in Federer's box and the swiss fans with the stupid flags or cow bells... damn are they annoying, every time somebody claps for the opponent, they say something to them or look angry over and say something with their nasty swiss language, maybe insults

oh man, was that great today to see their faces while have to see Federer getting the whip lash from Djoko

:worship:

Deivid23
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
Nole´s parents were calmer when his son was lower ranked that´s true, they´re a bit over the top these days.

Concerning the loudy Serbians fans I think that kind of support is great, if you don´t like it then get a life if u ask me

Jogy
01-25-2008, 11:16 AM
As I said on another thread - I like Nole AND his family - I've met them loads of times and don't have a problem with any of them at all :shrug:
since when do you like Djokovic and family, not long ago I read opposite about him and how you hate his time cheating and cheating in general

Deivid23
01-25-2008, 11:18 AM
since when do you like Djokovic and family, not long ago I read opposite of him and how you hate his time cheating and cheating in general

It´s called double standards and it´s Rosie´s specialty ;). I mean, he calls Nadal "ball basher" and she´s a fan of the biggest ball basher in tour aka Tursunov :lol:

guille&tati4life
01-25-2008, 11:19 AM
Nole´s parents were calmer when his son was lower ranked that´s true, they´re a bit over the top these days.

Concerning the loudy Serbians I think it´s great, if you don´t like it then get a life if u ask me

People are misunderstanding. I have no problem with the Serbian fans at all, only that Djokovic and his entourage seem to have a problem when opposition fans cheer.
I cheer with the Serbian fans and would be just as loud for Janko or Ivanovic.

Stensland
01-25-2008, 11:19 AM
Excuse me, is there anything objectively insulting about what they are doing? Do they cheer double faults?


again: it takes that for you to judge? you'd need parents to boo the opponent to smell something fishy? wow! :eek:


Are we actually talking about a sport here or a dinner party?


are we talking about a aussie rules football match with no related people involved? no. it's their son on court and they act like they're some 15-year-olds trying to go backstage with their biggest idol to hump him.


Everyone seems to think that the player's friends and family should just sit like dead fish, suppressing all expression of emotion.


firstly: there's lots of room left inbetween. and secondly: i don't want them get get kicked out of the stadium or something. but they'll have to cope with the fact that they're gonna be labelled as the typical tennis parents. and i bet they know that and couldn't care less. so - well, this is what they'll get then. fine by me, it's totally up to them.


This is getting so pathetic, you are grasping for straws. Djokovic's injury timeouts, his impersonations of other players, his arrogance even - all this is legitimate criticism. But his parents T shirts and expressions of joy?

of course all of that is not forbidden or against any rules. it's just proletarian and doesn't fit, that's all. it's football behaviour on a tennis court, plus it's their son, for god's sake. don't they sense that it's kinda ridiculous for obviously a whole lotta people out there?

Herdwick
01-25-2008, 11:20 AM
- I could do without the matching shirts certainly and am afraid I don't take to his father at all.
- The ball-bouncing is just part of his game - he admits he gets extremely nervous and this is how he calms himself down.

But fans cheering for their favourite - I think tennis needs more of it personally.

Maya_4
01-25-2008, 11:20 AM
This is so stupid post!You're so boring with that ball bouncing,so what?That's his way to calm down,other players has their way!And about his family,that's also stupid,they just suport their son and brother,I would do the same thing!

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 11:21 AM
I thought it looked like Nole's Father was telling Serb fans to calm down, as if not to cheer to loudly because he'd only won a set, not the match .. kind of thing.

who gives a toss about the fans and parents if they are rejoicing in Fed's loss - they could only ever have wildest dreams of having 2% of what Fed has done... and will do again.

peteroger
01-25-2008, 11:25 AM
The one hundrand more ball-bouncing and the shitty face to the umpire after being given the warning?

The analogy of his camp with Yuri.

Admit he played better today, but never repect his game and never will.

Kolya
01-25-2008, 11:26 AM
I don't like you.

*Ljubica*
01-25-2008, 11:28 AM
since when do you like Djokovic and family, not long ago I read opposite about him and how you hate his time cheating and cheating in general

I am not a huge Djokovic fan, nor a contributor to his Forum, but that doesn't mean I don't like him or his family personally :shrug: And - yes - I do hate cheating, providing it really is "cheating" and not the kind of stuff that some stupid and uninformed idiots on MTF call "cheating". And - no - I am not necessarily calling you "stupid or uninformed" - just a general comment.

Oh - and as a true fan-girl :angel: my liking for Tursunov has very little to do with his tennis ;)

Deivid23
01-25-2008, 11:28 AM
So fucking what?

MissMelly2U
01-25-2008, 11:28 AM
The ball bouncing is annoying, but it's not the worst thing in the world, and I don't think he does it with bad intent. He even makes fun of himself about it.

And get a grip people. Let Novak's family enjoy their son's awesome talent. I'm sure they have sacrificed a ton to help him get to where he is, and they deserve to express their excitement in his success. They may be cheesy w/ their matching gear and all, but DAMN it's their perogative.

Herdwick
01-25-2008, 11:28 AM
Am sure he doesn't like you either...deal with it

ugotlobbed
01-25-2008, 11:30 AM
someone has to get an explanation for his multiple ball bounces

MissMelly2U
01-25-2008, 11:31 AM
Dude. Get over yourself. Your favorite lost. So did mine, but I'm not whining. I'm actually excited for Novak. You are really clowning yourself right now. Get a grip.

Kristen
01-25-2008, 11:34 AM
At this stage, I can't say I have a problem with the family. They seem supportive of him. It's like they are all out there on the tennis court. They feel every point, and they express it. I don't think I would be able to contain my emotions. Besides, it is their first trip to Australia right? They're living as a family unit, they're sticking together, yeah the shirts are lame but it's sweet. The ball bouncing does need to be addressed though. Either start it earlier or try to be more conscious of how long it's taking. Maybe he needs some sort of timer at the opposite end of the court to warn him when he needs to get moving, since it is such an apparent problem :p

The Serbian fans have not done anything to irritate me, at least that I can remember. Isn't this the way Serbians are in general? I'm not stereotyping-Maybe I am-But I live in an area that is packed with Serbs and they really stick together and support one another, here at least. I was at the Hewitt-Djokovic match and the fans seemed to behave themselves there. The only fans I can complain about were the fanatics who were literally screaming into my ear. Having said all that, Djokovic is doing me all these favours by wiping out the guys I want gone from the tournament :shrug:

On a different note, Mirka didn't do much tonight. Not that she often does, but it looked painful to be there 'supporting' her guy.

Kristen
01-25-2008, 11:38 AM
Admit he played better today, but never repect his game and never will.

LMAO. Never respect his GAME!?!

But then again, look at your user name. Djokovic is far too exciting and unusual for you to even consider liking.

LOB
01-25-2008, 11:38 AM
i mean, it comes down to east europe vs west europe, i personally am a more westernn euro type of guy, more of a intelligent crowd but not as crazy, some ppl like crazy, some ppl like to think more

i suppose you were thinking when you wrote that

ugotlobbed
01-25-2008, 11:38 AM
Dude. Get over yourself. Your favorite lost. So did mine, but I'm not whining. I'm actually excited for Novak. You are really clowning yourself right now. Get a grip.

who was ur favorite?

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 11:39 AM
his entourage has nothing to do with Djokovic himself. Djokovics real problem is that he hasn't got much in his game apart from consistency

MissMelly2U
01-25-2008, 11:41 AM
who was ur favorite?

Read the siggy :retard:

ugotlobbed
01-25-2008, 11:43 AM
on another day, i would go into politics but not tonite mate, you can have the satisfaction if you want

ugotlobbed
01-25-2008, 11:45 AM
Read the siggy :retard:

its just u said my favorite lost too i thought u were talking about roddick or something, but you shouldnt tell the thread starter to act the way you do or call him names, theres no right and wrong way in reacting to a sports match, and it depends on the how hardcore the fan is

Langers
01-25-2008, 11:47 AM
What a rubbish thread.

ugotlobbed
01-25-2008, 11:51 AM
in general, a more prosperous country is generally a direct result of more civilized people and government, you guys can lie to yourself and make up a bunch of exceptions to argue that be my guest.

moon language
01-25-2008, 11:51 AM
This is the lamest thread I've ever seen on this forum.

Bilbo
01-25-2008, 11:53 AM
this is why i don't like his character at all. i will never be a fan of anyone who's character i don't like doesn't matter if it's in sports, music etc.

fangirl
01-25-2008, 11:54 AM
http://i25.tinypic.com/2h6siom.gif

~Jin~
01-25-2008, 11:56 AM
never liked him - maybe when he stops those long ball bouncing.

Bilbo
01-25-2008, 11:56 AM
I mean, he calls Nadal "ball basher" and she´s a fan of the biggest ball basher in tour aka Tursunov :lol:

:haha: :yeah:

nisha
01-25-2008, 12:28 PM
dont like him
hope he loses

nisha
01-25-2008, 12:30 PM
in general, a more prosperous country is generally a direct result of more civilized people and government, you guys can lie to yourself and make up a bunch of exceptions to argue that be my guest.

:retard:

CassL
01-25-2008, 01:00 PM
Can you say sore loser?

LleytonMonfils
01-25-2008, 01:17 PM
I thought it was hilarious when Novak got warned about the time he was taking to serve, he went on to win the point at net, and as he did he looked straight at the chair and just stared a hole through the guy.

Didn't say 1 word, just looked at him as if to say "Are you crazy?"

Bascule
01-25-2008, 01:24 PM
i mean, it comes down to east europe vs west europe, i personally am a more westernn euro type of guy, more of a intelligent crowd but not as crazy, some ppl like crazy, some ppl like to think more

Did you just say that we are less intelligent?
If you don't understand streams on Balkan area, inform yourself, don't post some unintelligent crap here.

sawan66278
01-25-2008, 01:40 PM
What can you say? They are the Crasstastic Four. Led by Mr. Crasstastic, Papa Djokovic. I think the problem is that MANY feel that the family has added an unsportsmanlike element to their support. I still recall then giving a standing ovation after a 6-0 set early in the tourney.:rolleyes: I have NEVER (at least in the men' game) seen an entourage/box act as they do. Clapping and cheering once in a while is one thing; cheering on every point, wearing t-shirts that Duke fans amazingly would find childish and churlish...staring down other fans who cheer (and I witnessed this myself last year at the Open when Novak played Juan Monaco)...If they were American cowboys, the family would be known as the Cannot Sit Asses Down Posse.

AND then combine this with Mama and Papa's insanely disrespectful comments about Roger following last year's final. There is a concept in sports: paying your dues. Whenever a rookie bursts on the scene, most professional athletes believe they should respect those (not necessarily bow to them) who came before...who have actually accomplished things in the sport. I forget, how many slams does Djokovic have? And how many does Roger have? And yet, they walk around as if their son has won the grand slam.

I cannot believe I am siding with 00 Ego here...but, come on, show some self control, Crasstastic 4. Winning is NOT everything. I think they forgot to read the memo.

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 01:43 PM
Nole's old man was giving the thumbs down when the announcer was telling for a round of applause as Federer left the court at the end

:lol:

MissMelly2U
01-25-2008, 01:45 PM
What can you say? They are the Crasstastic Four. Led by Mr. Crasstastic, Papa Djokovic. I think the problem is that MANY feel that the family has added an unsportsmanlike element to their support. I still recall then giving a standing ovation after a 6-0 set early in the tourney.:rolleyes: I have NEVER (at least in the men' game) seen an entourage/box act as they do. Clapping and cheering once in a while is one thing; cheering on every point, wearing t-shirts that Duke fans amazingly would find childish and churlish...staring down other fans who cheer (and I witnessed this myself last year at the Open when Novak played Juan Monaco)...If they were American cowboys, the family would be known as the Cannot Sit Asses Down Posse.

AND then combine this with Mama and Papa's insanely disrespectful comments about Roger following last year's final. There is a concept in sports: paying your dues. Whenever a rookie bursts on the scene, most professional athletes believe they should respect those (not necessarily bow to them) who came before...who have actually accomplished things in the sport. I forget, how many slams does Djokovic have? And how many does Roger have? And yet, they walk around as if their son has won the grand slam.

I cannot believe I am siding with 00 Ego here...but, come on, show some self control, Crasstastic 4. Winning is NOT everything. I think they forgot to read the memo.

Crasstastic 4 :lol: Where do you get these names?

Bascule
01-25-2008, 01:47 PM
Oh, here's my favorites...

MissMelly2U
01-25-2008, 01:47 PM
Nole's old man was giving the thumbs down when the announcer was telling for a round of applause as Federer left the court at the end

:lol:

Really? That is terrible then. I might have to take back what I said because that kind of behavior is uncalled for. If he didn't have quality opponents to play, then his talent would be utterly useless.

SwiSha
01-25-2008, 01:52 PM
Sure that guille&tati must find something bad on Djokovic now, now when Ego King got beaten so easily

do you know what annoys me about Federer? his arrogant face, his unfair girlfriend Mirka who never shows credit to the player and his whole entourage with the jerks that sitting there in Federer's box and the swiss fans with the stupid flags or cow bells... damn are they annoying, every time somebody claps for the opponent, they say something to them or look angry over and say something with their nasty swiss language, maybe insults

oh man, was that great today to see their faces while have to see Federer getting the whip lash from Djoko

good stuff

SwiSha
01-25-2008, 01:53 PM
geez so they were a bit xtreme the last matches so fucking what

thrust
01-25-2008, 01:54 PM
i dont have a problem with fans, any fans..people are finally getting excited about tennis.

I agree!

Majlo
01-25-2008, 01:56 PM
nole was even breathing omg why does he do that? how unpro of him.... he should stop that rite now

balloon
01-25-2008, 01:58 PM
As a person I have nothing at all against Djokovic, but on the court he annoys me a hell of a lot.
He's no Nadal in terms of time cheating, but on most crucial points he will go considerably over the time limit. He got warned against Federer, but what was the point in that? :shrug: He kept going over the limit and the umpire did nothing.
Still, a little bit of gamesmanship is something which I can accept, many players do it including some of my favourites, so I'm not going to complain about that too much. What really annoys me is the way the Djokovic camp and Novak himself respond to opposition fans.
Against Ferrer at the US Open last year the Djokovic camp and Serbian fans were incredibly loud and shouted after almost every point. I get it, they were excited because he was doing so well BUT every time any fans of Ferrer cheered everyone in Djokovic's camp, led by his father, would turn round and stare at these people as though they'd done something wrong.
The other night against Ferrer was possibly worse. The Serbian fans, especially screaming girls, were celebrating every point Djokovic won. When a Ferrer fan applauded a point however, Djokovic started shouting at the crowd and complaining. His fans and in fact his camp made much more noise than David's but you didn't see Ferrer complaining about that.
Again, today against Federer, his box were enraged by the fans of Federer. The row behind the immediate family of Djokovic stood up looking behind at some Fed fans all glaring and one of them shouting. It's as though his box think that Djokovic should be supported as loudly as possible but that on no account should anyone be allowed to so much as applaud an opponent's shot.

This isn't a reaction to the match because Federer lost btw, I don't particularly like or dislike Federer or Djokovic I just think that his box is as annoying as Sharapova's father.



:yeah:
u rock :rocker:

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 01:58 PM
Whatever Djokovics parents are doing and saying it is weak to complain about their's behaviour. DJokovic is playing, not them

If Djokovic himself thinks, like they do, that he is better than Federer and all than it is different, but Djokovic didn't show this until now.

And even if he did, as it is a trend among many young players to want to be better than Federer by any means, Djokovic would not be original - Nadal, for example, deep down realy thinks he is better than Federer

SwiSha
01-25-2008, 01:58 PM
Nole's old man was giving the thumbs down when the announcer was telling for a round of applause as Federer left the court at the end

:lol:

cant blame him , fed never acknowledges the fact that Nole improved a lot or gives him credit , just look as his last interview ignorant arrogant twat

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 02:01 PM
cant blame him , fed never acknowledges the fact that Nole improved a lot or gives him credit , just look as his last interview ignorant arrogant twat

I think this is because FEderer doesn't apreciate that kind of a player. It's a matter of taste, you can't blaim him. He simply doesn't like to compliment Djokovic because he doesn't like his style. He will rather copmliment Gasquet or Muray

SwiSha
01-25-2008, 02:04 PM
I think this is because FEderer doesn't apreciate that kind of a player. It's a matter of taste, you can't blaim him. He simply doesn't like to compliment Djokovic because he doesn't like his style. He will rather copmliment Gasquet or Muray

that is why this victory makes it even sweeter for Nole and his family against Roger

Krikry
01-25-2008, 02:05 PM
I also think this is a kind of revenge about Fed's comments ;)

bokehlicious
01-25-2008, 02:07 PM
Shut up Christelle and go back to the Safin forum... :zzz: :zzz:

Stensland
01-25-2008, 02:08 PM
Nole's old man was giving the thumbs down when the announcer was telling for a round of applause as Federer left the court at the end

you're kidding, right?

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 02:09 PM
cant blame him , fed never acknowledges the fact that Nole improved a lot or gives him credit , just look as his last interview ignorant arrogant twatI dont agree with that .... i've heard him say what a great player Nole is to have reached all 4 GS semis at such a young age - he's better than me when i was young etc etc, that kinda stuff.. he doesnt then need to go overboard after he's been defeated.

sometimes i think ppl look for too much praise from Roger on other players and complain when they dont get it.

like the Roman Emperor thumbs up ;)

Krikry
01-25-2008, 02:13 PM
Shut up Christelle and go back to the Safin forum... :zzz: :zzz:

:p:p:p:p

*snowflake*
01-25-2008, 02:19 PM
Well, Novak can be annoying, true...but what the OP said about him yelling at a Ferru fan cause he cheered after a won point is bs cause he yelled in Serbian at a Serbian fan who apparently thought he lost a point stupidly...

As for fans, it's very possible that half of those ppl have never been to a tennis match in their lives, they see that someone from their native country is playing and they want to show their support, which is understandable; the way they choose to do it, on the other hand, is sometimes questionable but then you can jump at many nations for their way of cheering, this year you had the Greeks and their chants, Chilenos with their's (i love it btw, join in every single time :)) etc.

Also, some ppl obviously don't know that you shouldn't judge a nation by it's diaspora, and to comment on anyone's intelligence, education and civilization level if you come from a country where most of the ppl think Kremlin is in Disneyland, their own national antheme starts with "Jose, can you see...", and that the civil war was led between them and Mexico...(you wanted a generalization, there you have it :wavey:)

And lastly, the family...i don't like the lets all dress the same idea, nor the let's put his name on our shirts but if that's how they like, who am i to judge :shrug:...i dislike his father for other reasons

Stensland
01-25-2008, 02:19 PM
escude, what about that thumb thing you mentioned earlier? was that a joke?

Satanic Pasteur
01-25-2008, 02:22 PM
.. and take revenge for your v-cash

LOL


Yeah first bankrupt since USO 2004 (Roddick/JoJo)... I knew this match was very "losable" but odds on Roger were pretty good IMO at 0,36.

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 02:25 PM
escude, what about that thumb thing you mentioned earlier? was that a joke?Nope

Yeah first bankrupt since USO 2004 (you still have 40k mate, not exactly 'bankrupt' ;)

Satanic Pasteur
01-25-2008, 02:30 PM
you still have 40k mate, not exactly 'bankrupt'

Lol true, I forgot I left some:aparty:

Stensland
01-25-2008, 02:30 PM
Nope


really? does anyone have a youtube-video of that. that is outrageous!

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 02:32 PM
really? does anyone have a youtube-video of that. that is outrageous!He should be banned from tennis arenas for the rest of his life

Stensland
01-25-2008, 02:36 PM
i need proof. did you watch him do it or did some commentator say it?

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 02:37 PM
I watched the son of a bitch

Stensland
01-25-2008, 02:38 PM
I watched the son of a bitch

so someone else from mtf must've watched it, too, right? espn?

can somebody back this up or upload some video maybe?

Herdwick
01-25-2008, 02:45 PM
so someone else from mtf must've watched it, too, right? espn?

can somebody back this up or upload some video maybe?

Am just watching the re-run on BBC - we must get the same pictures. We're halfway through the 3rd set.

Will look out for it and get back to you...

Bascule
01-25-2008, 02:45 PM
Thumbs down is mean stuff. I agree.
But, look what you are looking for!
That's more import to you than all this insulting posts against whole nation.
Rainerr and Escude, I really respect you a lot.

Jozie
01-25-2008, 02:47 PM
Can't help thinking that the only fans supporting Djokovic will be the Serbian supporters and his family on Sunday. Everybody else will be supporting Tsonga, and hopefully this will carry Tsonga through.

Bascule
01-25-2008, 02:52 PM
You can read my last posts about it. I really think so.

Matthias13
01-25-2008, 02:55 PM
I hope Novak realises he's an "assnole" ;) The way he looked at the umpire because he had given him a warning for time violation :rolleyes: So much pretence for someone who is only 20 :rolleyes: And taking the shirt off after the match: we know it already. You got a great body Novak but stop showing it, it's getting very irritating. In general he's a irritating bastard. And Ivanovic is turning into him, she's becoming a real bitch :D

guille&tati4life
01-25-2008, 02:56 PM
in general, a more prosperous country is generally a direct result of more civilized people and government, you guys can lie to yourself and make up a bunch of exceptions to argue that be my guest.

You're an idiot.

Originally posted by uniq.ladii
Well, Novak can be annoying, true...but what the OP said about him yelling at a Ferru fan cause he cheered after a won point is bs cause he yelled in Serbian at a Serbian fan who apparently thought he lost a point stupidly...


This might be true. I'm interested how you know that though? The commentators here didn't think so.

BlakeJamitis
01-25-2008, 02:56 PM
This IS what tennis needs. That little quiet, sit there & fan your self crown is gone. I guess except for Wimbledon - but the day my friends & I show up, we will be making noise.

Rivalry among the fans is good. The cockiness/confidence of Novak, Tsonga, etc. is great for the game. Hopefully it will stir more interest in the US. I love it. Maybe Fed will get ticked enough to improve his 2nd serve returns. They stink right now.

my0118
01-25-2008, 02:57 PM
escude, what about that thumb thing you mentioned earlier? was that a joke?

I replayed it and I saw that too.

Stensland
01-25-2008, 02:57 PM
You can read my last posts about it. I really think so.

hey :wavey: , i remember talking to you back when the us open were on, right? you must know that i have absolutely nothing against serbia or any balkan nations, i hoped we clarified this back in the days. it's just the way nole's parents act that got me going here, and obviously they don't even think of tuning it down a bit. they don't give a f*** apparently about what the fans say, the audience says etc.

if they indeed did this thumbs-down thing: i've never witnessed anything like that in any sport i can think of from an actively involved party (like parents, coaches etc.). that's gotta be the worst behaviour in quite a long time.

and if that comes up on youtube, i'm gonna put it in my signature, sorry.

Stensland
01-25-2008, 02:58 PM
"assnole"

:haha:

CyBorg
01-25-2008, 03:00 PM
Not a big fan of Djoko's entourage. What I'd like to see is not guys like Djoko but guys like Connors. I don't like it when the media gives the fans attention and constantly cuts to the parents or girlfriends or fanboys. I don't want to see this. I want to be entertained by the player himself - if he's a jerk that's fine by me, becuase that only makes things more interesting.

Mr. Djokovic Sr. and Mr. Sharapov are not what I'm paying my money to watch. Stop giving them camera time, ESPN, Star Sports or whatever other channel there is.

Jagermeister
01-25-2008, 03:01 PM
If Nole's father really did that, that's pretty low-class but I'd have to see it myself. I don't have a problem in general with the way they cheer otherwise. The matching t-shirts are corny but I've never seen them cheer in a disrespectful manner, that I can recall. Not as bad as Yuri Sharapov, that's for sure.

I wouldn't qualify Serbian fans as being too obnoxious either. Rowdy? Sure. I've seen worse in this and other venues. J-block for example.

Stensland
01-25-2008, 03:03 PM
I replayed it and I saw that too.

could you upload it maybe?

Kristen
01-25-2008, 03:03 PM
Thumbs down...a bit like Marias dad slicing his hand across his throat after the Henin victory? I'm not saying the thumbs-down didn't happen, I have no idea. But like a nutty Austrian said to me when he thought I was Henin, and I thought he was drinking vodka instead of water... "You see the world through your own eyes"

TheMightyFed
01-25-2008, 03:04 PM
Beyond the ball bouncing and the entourage, his thick and long neck is something amazing... he will be the number one player with the thickest/longest neck ever...

Canas Betmaster
01-25-2008, 03:07 PM
hey :wavey: , i remember talking to you back when the us open were on, right? you must know that i have absolutely nothing against serbia or any balkan nations, i hoped we clarified this back in the days. it's just the way nole's parents act that got me going here, and obviously they don't even think of tuning it down a bit. they don't give a f*** apparently about what the fans say, the audience says etc.

if they indeed did this thumbs-down thing: i've never witnessed anything like that in any sport i can think of from an actively involved party (like parents, coaches etc.). that's gotta be the worst behaviour in quite a long time.

and if that comes up on youtube, i'm gonna put it in my signature, sorry.

You guys must understand something:

About year and half ago Federer in one interview tell very ugly things about Djokovic. He doesent give him any credit at all and speak that guys like Monfils and Berdych are better then Novak.

After that Djokovic father basicly said that Federer is a bustard.

After todays match that was the "What are you say about Novak now , you fucking moron" greeting to Federer.

Stensland
01-25-2008, 03:11 PM
He doesent give him any credit at all and speak that guys like Monfils and Berdych are better then Novak.


but they were back then, weren't they? monfils was coming on strong, beating top opponents and gasquet, well, we all know about his talent.


After that Djokovic father basicly said that Federer is a bustard.
After todays match that was the "What are you say about Novak now , you fucking moron" greeting to Federer.

yeah, in the wrestling language maybe, not in decent tennis language, not even in the decent football language. we might just need to get used to the fact that he's a low-class prick. let's face it.

my0118
01-25-2008, 03:15 PM
could you upload it maybe?

Well he didn't exactly do it when Roger getting out of the court, but you'll know about it if you see that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDx5_tZgFS0

Well actually I don't like this either (the way he looked at the umpire when he got warned for the time violation)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhdgaHk0vVQ&feature=user

Neely
01-25-2008, 03:16 PM
if they indeed did this thumbs-down thing: i've never witnessed anything like that in any sport i can think of from an actively involved party (like parents, coaches etc.). that's gotta be the worst behaviour in quite a long time.
I think that you didn't see enough. My impression is that a lot of ambitious parents who seek success for their sons or daughter (also because they invested in their careers) go overboard in any way and do unfair things regarding their behaviour towards the opposing player and this -by far- not a singular happening.


and if that comes up on youtube, i'm gonna put it in my signature, sorry.
Yes, I hope that somebody uploads this because I want to make my own judgement on this because people react and judge differently. I already thought all the time that Sharapov is annoying as hell, and as Kristen mentioned, his gesture after the Henin match was uncalled for IMO, but the same I think that Novak's parents should not have given thumbs-down during Federer's applause. They should be fairer and/or accordingly act more cleverly - it's not tough to know that at least one of the many cameras will catch it.

Jagermeister
01-25-2008, 03:18 PM
After todays match that was the "What are you say about Novak now , you fucking moron" greeting to Federer.

But isn't winning the ultimate revenge? If Nole's dad gave the thumbs-down when they announced Federer, that is pretty crass and unnecessary. Let the tennis speak!

It was a little unusual to see Federer call another player out like he did to Nole. Nole had a penchant for abusing the injury timeouts back in the day but I think in general Federer just hates Nole's personality because it's basically the opposite of what Federer's is. Is he threatened? Perhaps. I don't buy it that Federer is somehow trying to save the decorum in tennis or whatever.

bokehlicious
01-25-2008, 03:18 PM
but they were back then, weren't they? monfils was coming on strong, beating top opponents and gasquet, well, we all know about his talent.

I guess Fed should have predicted Nole's supreme greatness and call him the GOAT 2 years back :shrug:

and the original issue was the Nole-Wawa DC match when Roger called him a joker...

Stensland
01-25-2008, 03:19 PM
Well he didn't exactly do it when Roger getting out of the court, but you'll know about it if you see that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDx5_tZgFS0


hm...if that's the only scene we're talking about here, i don't know if we could even put that in any relation regarding roger walking off. that gesture could mean anything.

MissMelly2U
01-25-2008, 03:20 PM
You guys must understand something:

About year and half ago Federer in one interview tell very ugly things about Djokovic. He doesent give him any credit at all and speak that guys like Monfils and Berdych are better then Novak.

After that Djokovic father basicly said that Federer is a bustard.

After todays match that was the "What are you say about Novak now , you fucking moron" greeting to Federer.

Novak was unproven at the time, and he was more notorious for his antics on court than his game. That was a problem, but I think he's fixed it for the most part.

my0118
01-25-2008, 03:23 PM
hm...if that's the only scene we're talking about here, i don't know if we could even put that in any relation regarding roger walking off. that gesture could mean anything.

Maybe I was putting on the only scene when he's doing, but this was right after he's getting out of the court. Yeah it could be anything and I could be wrong. But I felt it was something about Roger. (up and then down)

Matthias13
01-25-2008, 03:24 PM
IMO if you can't behave like a true sportsman (which does not include thumbs down or obscene hand gestures) you have to be banned from the stadions. They did it to Damir Dokic, why not apply it again to get Sharapov and that piece-of-crap Djokovic out ? It's drastic but effective.

Stensland
01-25-2008, 03:25 PM
Maybe I was putting on the only scene when he's doing, but this was right after he's getting out of the court. Yeah it could be anything and I could be wrong. But I felt it was something about Roger. (up and then down)

you didn't make that strong case, escude did. let's hope he can upload some scenes as well if there are any more.

Herdwick
01-25-2008, 03:25 PM
Ok - just re-watched.

Djoko senior certainly gave a thumbs down but it was well after Fed had left the court, not as he left. He was turning round and talking to those behind him - I got the impression it was just a gesture of triumph. That being said, I don't like the look of the father at all - seems overbearing and rather thuggish.

But you can't hold Djoko responsible for his father - I would hate to be judged by mine.

Jagermeister
01-25-2008, 03:26 PM
Well he didn't exactly do it when Roger getting out of the court, but you'll know about it if you see that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDx5_tZgFS0

Well actually I don't like this either (the way he looked at the umpire when he got warned for the time violation)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhdgaHk0vVQ&feature=user

I didn't think the staredown at the umpire was that bad. It was like 3-4 seconds. No biggie

The thumbs-down was annoying. It seemed he was giving the thumbs-down to some fans that were chanting "Roger Roger" rather than at the announcer acknowledging Federer. Either way it was uncalled for. I still don't think he's as bad as Yuri though!

Stensland
01-25-2008, 03:29 PM
That being said, I don't like the look of the father at all - seems overbearing and rather thuggish.


yeah he does, doesn't he? i was thinking the same thing. walking down the street at night, seeing that guy come along - i guess i'd either speed up or quickly change sides. i don't wanna be getting offers i can't refuse or anything like that... ;)

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 03:30 PM
It wasnt just his Dad... what about the row of guys behind them, did you notice the disgusted looks they were giving up at the Fed fans when all they were doing was cheering Fed after he won a point, absolutely pathetic behaviour.... one of them was that dark skinned bald guy, some skanky tennis hanger on type - ive seen him in Safin's camp before.


After that Djokovic father basicly said that Federer is a bustard.
After todays match that was the "What are you say about Novak now , you fucking moron" greeting to Federer. Proving What?

what exactly has he won yet? boy some of you (and Assnole family) are gonna look like right idiots if he loses to Tsonga on Sunday :lol:

MissMelly2U
01-25-2008, 03:32 PM
It wasnt just his Dad... what about the row of guys behind them, did you notice the disgusted looks they were giving up at the Fed fans when all they were doing was cheering Fed after he won a point, absolutely pathetic behaviour.... one of them was that dark skinned bald guy, some skanky tennis hanger on type - ive seen him in Safin's camp before.


Proving What?

what exactly has he won yet? boy some of you (and Assnole family) are gonna look like right idiots if he loses to Tsonga on Sunday :lol:

That is the danger of premature ejaculation of the mouth.

Bilbo
01-25-2008, 03:33 PM
really? does anyone have a youtube-video of that. that is outrageous!

are you surprised he did that? well, i'm not from what i've seen of him last year in the stands.

Canas Betmaster
01-25-2008, 03:34 PM
Well, Novak was 18 back then and he already was win some ATP tournaments,
However, his behavior was terible those days, but he was just a kid.

Novaks father is a just getting to much attention. I dont care about his behavior.

Davor Dokic is a true legend, as we speak about players fathers.

my0118
01-25-2008, 03:35 PM
I didn't think the staredown at the umpire was that bad. It was like 3-4 seconds. No biggie

Actually I was quite surprised by that more than his father thumbing down. What, didn't he know he took a lot of time between the points? The umpire did nothing wrong. But he didn't stare at him right after he got warned but after he won the point. It seems to me that's really something.

Stensland
01-25-2008, 03:36 PM
are you surprised he did that? well, i'm not from what i've seen of him last year in the stands.

yes, i'd have been surprised because it would certainly mark a new low in men's tennis.

but quite obviously it wasn't as he apparently didn't do what people have alleged on the last page. he's still a prick though, no doubt. ;)

Dimonator133
01-25-2008, 03:41 PM
i hope Ali will murder him on sunday so his annoying parents can shut up

his mom is hot for that age

Canas Betmaster
01-25-2008, 03:42 PM
Proving What?

what exactly has he won yet? boy some of you (and Assnole family) are gonna look like right idiots if he loses to Tsonga on Sunday :lol:

You are very funny !:)

There are all over guys aged 20 who beat Federer in GS semi finals.

Well, I dont think he will lose against Tsonga but even in that case he make a HUGE success.

And what exactly are you won ? :wavey:

Dimonator133
01-25-2008, 03:42 PM
i have no problem him beating roger actually it's good for tennis im so tired of roger winning every time.

only sensible post of this entire thread

Dimonator133
01-25-2008, 03:43 PM
As a person I have nothing at all against Djokovic, but on the court he annoys me a hell of a lot.
He's no Nadal in terms of time cheating, but on most crucial points he will go considerably over the time limit.

expected post in so many ways by an idiot federer fan

Stensland
01-25-2008, 03:43 PM
his mom is hot for that age

i heard her husband pimped her out to get "interviewed" by the milfrider. maybe someone's got some footage of that as well? ;)

Krikry
01-25-2008, 03:57 PM
one of them was that dark skinned bald guy, some skanky tennis hanger on type - ive seen him in Safin's camp before.



I guess you're speaking about Allon Khakshouri , right :confused:
He did absolutely nothing... or maybe this is a crime being happy for the one you support :confused:
You should stop seeing bad supporters everywhere, it's a shame

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 04:00 PM
No, i seen him.... looking up, disgusted with words coming from his mouth

because swiss fans are happy?

:rolleyes:

Krikry
01-25-2008, 04:03 PM
When did he do that :confused:

*snowflake*
01-25-2008, 04:03 PM
This might be true. I'm interested how you know that though? The commentators here didn't think so.

I watched it, heard it...and the Eurosport commentator said the same thing :shrug:

When the opponent's fans shout something to him he just mumbles some curses to his chin or give them the mean look and keeps on going...but when his own make a comment, i think that pisses him off...who knows?

Novak's father gives himself too many rights. He thinks that now, that he's son is a successful player, he is God given in the tennis world. Pure example of riding off your child's success. I'm pretty sick of his interviews, beefs with city officials cause he can't build courts exactly where he wants and not where he can, with the national tennis association etc. The worst thing is that thanks to him it will all blow off of Novak's head...and judging from everyone's reactions, it already is...

Bascule
01-25-2008, 04:05 PM
Well, I saw those videos, and I must say, it wasn't like you said. So, I'm just disapointed on what crap you are wasting your time. I see some haters here, I can understand that, but Escude, you disapointed me with this really immature and childish post.

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 04:06 PM
When did he do that :confused:When i watch the next re run

i'll get my notepad and give you the approx time during the match, score, place and crime of all of them!

full descriptions

Krikry
01-25-2008, 04:07 PM
Okay!

Herdwick
01-25-2008, 04:16 PM
I watched it, heard it...and the Eurosport commentator said the same thing :shrug:

When the opponent's fans shout something to him he just mumbles some curses to his chin or give them the mean look and keeps on going...but when his own make a comment, i think that pisses him off...who knows?

Novak's father gives himself too many rights. He thinks that now, that he's son is a successful player, he is God given in the tennis world. Pure example of riding off your child's success. I'm pretty sick of his interviews, beefs with city officials cause he can't build courts exactly where he wants and not where he can, with the national tennis association etc. The worst thing is that thanks to him it will all blow off of Novak's head...and judging from everyone's reactions, it already is...

Can you explain a bit here more please - I assume you're posting from Serbia?. Am a huge Novak fan myself but really find his dad hard to take. You're saying he throws his weight around in Belgrade?

MariaV
01-25-2008, 04:16 PM
Well he didn't exactly do it when Roger getting out of the court, but you'll know about it if you see that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDx5_tZgFS0

Well actually I don't like this either (the way he looked at the umpire when he got warned for the time violation)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhdgaHk0vVQ&feature=user

I'd like to hear the what his 'fans' here have to say about that.

And I'd like to rectify just one fact - check it with the stopper watch on the videos and you see that Nole takes much more time between the points than Rafa.

l_mac
01-25-2008, 04:24 PM
The ball bouncing doesn't really bother me, and he can't be blamed for his family. But I really don't find him an appealing personality and I don't enjoy watching him play. I never have.

Leaving Nole aside, his family do not come across well. Obviously I don't know them, and I'm sure we'd all be passionate about a close family member in such situations as Nole now finds himself, but they seriously look like the biggest bunch of classless fools who ever lived.

His fanbase. :tape: :tape: And that's just for the ones on this forum :) :) :)

MariaV
01-25-2008, 04:29 PM
The ball bouncing doesn't really bother me, and he can't be blamed for his family. But I really don't find him an appealing personality and I don't enjoy watching him play. I never have.

Leaving Nole aside, his family do not come across well. Obviously I don't know them, and I'm sure we'd all be passionate about a close family member in such situations as Nole now finds himself, but they seriously look like the biggest bunch of classless fools who ever lived.

His fanbase. :tape: :tape: And that's just for the ones on this forum :) :) :)

I can only add that I haven't seen Fed's or Rafa's parents or other family members jumping up & down or shouting at fans or making obscene gestures.

Månu
01-25-2008, 04:52 PM
i mean, it comes down to east europe vs west europe, i personally am a more westernn euro type of guy, more of a intelligent crowd but not as crazy, some ppl like crazy, some ppl like to think more


Reminds me of the Eurovision song contest :D

Satanic Pasteur
01-25-2008, 05:18 PM
Escude is right Krikry, the bald guy (among others) was staring very badly behind him towards Fed's fans...
Having been myself kicked out twice from Paris-Bercy in the 90's for being a bit too passionate:angel::o:devil: I may say swiss fans may seem dumb with their bells etc but they're kind me thinks because other fans (maybe me too) may have reacted to those very bad stares...

Manon
01-25-2008, 06:03 PM
Get a life kids.

Savo
01-25-2008, 07:08 PM
I hope Novak realises he's an "assnole" ;) The way he looked at the umpire because he had given him a warning for time violation :rolleyes: So much pretence for someone who is only 20 :rolleyes: And taking the shirt off after the match: we know it already. You got a great body Novak but stop showing it, it's getting very irritating. In general he's a irritating bastard. And Ivanovic is turning into him, she's becoming a real bitch :D

Relax dude, Rochus will win Wimbledon in a few months, you won't have to worry about Nole anymore...

SAtennis
01-25-2008, 08:04 PM
Love the word "assnole"!!! I like Novak's playing, but, sorry, can't root for him because of his obnoxious parents. It's a shame when such good players like Djoko and Sharapova lose many fans due to their entourage's uncivilized and selfish behavior.

Yappa
01-25-2008, 08:20 PM
The other night against Ferrer was possibly worse. The Serbian fans, especially screaming girls, were celebrating every point Djokovic won. When a Ferrer fan applauded a point however, Djokovic started shouting at the crowd and complaining. His fans and in fact his camp made much more noise than David's but you didn't see Ferrer complaining about that.


Those screaming girls drove me insane. Last time that I was that annoyed, was when I was sitting in the crowd myself, following the match Safin-Ferrero in Hamburg with a couple of drunk russian fans. Thankfully, they were kicked out.

*snowflake*
01-25-2008, 08:21 PM
Can you explain a bit here more please - I assume you're posting from Serbia?. Am a huge Novak fan myself but really find his dad hard to take. You're saying he throws his weight around in Belgrade?

Here are the news articles...

Srdjan Djokovic vs. City Officials

http://www.blic.co.yu/sports.php?id=1242


Srdjan Djokovic vs. Tennis Federation:

http://www.blic.co.yu/sports.php?id=1224

http://www.blic.co.yu/sports.php?id=1313

http://www.blic.co.yu/sports.php?id=1321


I think it's a lil pretentious to think that you can bring an ATP tournament, let alone Masters to a country just because you're a father of the number 3 player in the world and been in the circut for a few years; when you on the other side have Slobodan Zivojinovic who's been there for years and years, has many connections including his best man Tiriac lobbing for him and what not. I don't know what kind of job is he doing as the president of STF but i surely can't imagine Djokovic senior doing anything better...

tangerine_dream
01-25-2008, 08:39 PM
There might be one thing slightly more annoying than Novak's parents: uniq.ladii typing in pink letters. :help:

Compare them to Federer's entourage....what entourage?
That devilish Vogue hag maybe?

But the look on Mirka's face was PRICELESS.:devil:
:lol: It's great to see her shut down, isn't it?

Well actually I don't like this either (the way he looked at the umpire when he got warned for the time violation)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhdgaHk0vVQ&feature=user
Staredown.

http://i27.tinypic.com/250rx8m.jpg

sawan66278
01-25-2008, 08:41 PM
I think the poll about who the MTF members want to win reveals quite a deal about Mr. "Dolt"ovic and his Disdain Clown Posse. And, its truly a shame. What I find interesting is that he is following the career path of Andre Agassi. Andre was, at first, loved by many fans. He too threw his shirt into the crowd. Even on ESPN they contrasted Federer and he by playing classical music for Roger and rock music for Novak. Ivan Lendl called Andre a "haircut and a forehand"...dismissing him much like Roger dismisses him.

Eventually, the media (and fans) turned against him. Once, Andre turned himself around and acted in a more professional manner, the fans and media support returned.

What Djokovic and his family fail to realize is that they are the "flavor of the month". Fans throughout the world are a fickle lot, and eventually, they will be pulling for the underdog on an everyday basis. AND, by acting in the fashion they do, they are simply adding fuel to the fire. Let's face it: they make the J-Block look like characters from the late Mr. Roger's Neighborhood.

And I feel badly for classy fans like Bascule. I am sure they cringe (as well do when our favorites do something we don't like). However, unlike Roger fans, they are doing it every time the Crasstastic 4 arrive.

leng jai
01-25-2008, 08:48 PM
Fakervic's family wearing jackets spelling out N-O-L-E is the lamest thing I've ever seen.

Matthias13
01-25-2008, 08:51 PM
Relax dude, Rochus will win Wimbledon in a few months, you won't have to worry about Nole anymore...

How very small of you to begin babbling about Rochus since I was not discussing Djokovic' results but his attitude. Olivier will not win a GS, but he is a real sportsman and gentleman. I don't expect such kind of behaviour from a player from Eastern Europe :angel:

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 09:03 PM
Even on ESPN they contrasted Federer and he by playing classical music for Roger and rock music for Novak.

They did the same with Federer and Nadal. They seem fixated on this metaphore - Federer should be a sort of "elitist" and his younger oponent - Nadal, Djokovic or someone third - more of a "populist", or more precisely, post-modern (Federer) vs. decadent ("young guns") attitude

jayjay
01-25-2008, 09:10 PM
[QUOTE=guille&tati4life;6488840]Against Ferrer at the US Open last year the Djokovic camp and Serbian fans were incredibly loud and shouted after almost every point. I get it, they were excited because he was doing so well BUT every time any fans of Ferrer cheered everyone in Djokovic's camp, led by his father, would turn round and stare at these people as though they'd done something wrong.

So what? So they stared at some people?

The other night against Ferrer was possibly worse. The Serbian fans, especially screaming girls, were celebrating every point Djokovic won.

Fans can scream as much as they like between points.

When a Ferrer fan applauded a point however, Djokovic started shouting at the crowd and complaining.

And if they wanted, the crowd could shout back and tell him to STFU.

Again, today against Federer, his box were enraged by the fans of Federer. The row behind the immediate family of Djokovic stood up looking behind at some Fed fans all glaring and one of them shouting. It's as though his box think that Djokovic should be supported as loudly as possible but that on no account should anyone be allowed to so much as applaud an opponent's shot.

They may well think that and they'd be wrong to think that, but so what? If it annoyed the Federer fans in the stadium, then their reaction should have been to have been as vocal in between points as the Djokovic camp.

If they chose not to do that, then it's up to them. Who cares what the Djokovic camp think? Let them think whatever, I don't see how it affects any individual in the crowd to support whoever it is they want and cheer whenever they want.

Herdwick
01-25-2008, 09:10 PM
Here are the news articles...

Srdjan Djokovic vs. City Officials

http://www.blic.co.yu/sports.php?id=1242


Srdjan Djokovic vs. Tennis Federation:

http://www.blic.co.yu/sports.php?id=1224

http://www.blic.co.yu/sports.php?id=1313

http://www.blic.co.yu/sports.php?id=1321


I think it's a lil pretentious to think that you can bring an ATP tournament, let alone Masters to a country just because you're a father of the number 3 player in the world and been in the circut for a few years; when you on the other side have Slobodan Zivojinovic who's been there for years and years, has many connections including his best man Tiriac lobbing for him and what not. I don't know what kind of job is he doing as the president of STF but i surely can't imagine Djokovic senior doing anything better...

Thank you very much for taking the trouble to find these. Not good reading. Novak is clearly a very smart guy; he surely recognises that this kind of arrogance - albeit from a parent to whom he owes a great deal - can only harm him.

Am alarmed at the amount of venom directed at him on these forums and the Australian crowd today also seemed underwhelmed. He clearly wants to be popular - he needs to rethink a few things. Let's hope there are some sane voices around him.

World Beater
01-25-2008, 09:18 PM
Even uncle toni was a zealous individual when nadal was coming into his own. We cannot forget the coaching accusations and the shouts of vamos and topspin from uncle toni. he has considerably mellowed out since then and i expect that once djoker starts to achieve more and more success, the djokovics will also calm down.

Merton
01-25-2008, 09:50 PM
I don't mind the ball bouncing and the fans have certainly the right to be pround about their co-patriot and support him. His parents are public figures and hence under scrutiny for their actions and public opinions.

Merton
01-25-2008, 09:53 PM
Yeah I have problem as well with Novak's entourage. Hey, not everyone can have a classy guy like uncle Toni.

Even uncle toni was a zealous individual when nadal was coming into his own. We cannot forget the coaching accusations and the shouts of vamos and topspin from uncle toni. he has considerably mellowed out since then and i expect that once djoker starts to achieve more and more success, the djokovics will also calm down.

I was very impressed with uncle Toni after the final of the Paris tournament, he was at the same stand with Martin Jaite and Nalbandian's people, after the end of the final at which his nephew was crushed he stayed in his place and genuinely congratulated the winner. Very classy indeed, as GWH says you learn more about people on how they react after a defeat than after a victory.

gomeny
01-25-2008, 09:57 PM
I don't mind the ball bouncing and the fans have certainly the right to be pround about their co-patriot and support him. His parents are public figures and hence under scrutiny for their actions and public opinions.

I don't have problem with Novak, but you're being a little naive if you think excessive ball bouncing isn't a form of gamesmanship.

Merton
01-25-2008, 11:19 PM
I don't have problem with Novak, but you're being a little naive if you think excessive ball bouncing isn't a form of gamesmanship.

It is subjective for me, I don't doubt that it affects adversely some of his opponents and therefore it is a form of gamesmanship, it just doesn't bother me personally :shrug: On the other hand, I have no doubt that some of the injury time outs were fake, in particular against Wawrinka at DC, GGL at Estoril and Nieminen at Hamburg. I might be wrong but that is what my eyes tell me. That does bother me a lot, Nole is too good to need this kind of behavior.

The Pro
01-25-2008, 11:26 PM
I've ahh'ed and umm'ed and had a real good think, and changed my mind and back and forth again, and finally decided that I don't like Djokovic. He's just the opposite of the kind of person I admire.

It's the little nods he gives his entourge or himself when he does well. Such self congratulation. And there's a sense of entitlement from him that irks me. I know - God forbid that someone should have self-confidence, but that's not quite what I mean!

He's always so quick to re-iterate his achievements and his status, often he will rate his status based on recent results, as opposed to rankings, which certainly suits him. You can look at it as self-confidence or ego, and to be honest I think it's ego.

Add on the impersonations, which always seem to include a laughing flunky, his zealous and -I'm sorry, not very classy, entourage- and his posturing and gamesmanship. I think he will soon be the new ego-king around here.

World Beater
01-25-2008, 11:29 PM
one would have easily confused djokovic to be the 12 time grand slam winner and roger to be the contender, if someone new to tennis were watching the match.

Djokovic was strutting around the court like an adolescent roddick.

gomeny
01-25-2008, 11:34 PM
It is subjective for me, I don't doubt that it affects adversely some of his opponents and therefore it is a form of gamesmanship, it just doesn't bother me personally :shrug: On the other hand, I have no doubt that some of the injury time outs were fake, in particular against Wawrinka at DC, GGL at Estoril and Nieminen at Hamburg. I might be wrong but that is what my eyes tell me. That does bother me a lot, Nole is too good to need this kind of behavior.

It would be interesting if the atp initiates a serve clock because of him and Nadal.

I agree He's got big game and doesn't need that kind of crap to win.

star
01-25-2008, 11:36 PM
one would have easily confused djokovic to be the 12 time grand slam winner and roger to be the contender, if someone new to tennis were watching the match.

Djokovic was strutting around the court like an adolescent roddick.

Usually the established champions are quieter than the contenders. This doesn't strike me as strange. But, I understand your not liking Djokovic :hug: Federer rubs me the wrong way and I just want to barf when he is winning an important match. Even the way he walks is annoying -- not to mention his breathing. :lol:

:hug: So, I understand your annoyance completely and urge that you embrace it. :)

World Beater
01-25-2008, 11:40 PM
Usually the established champions are quieter than the contenders. This doesn't strike me as strange. But, I understand your not liking Djokovic :hug: Federer rubs me the wrong way and I just want to barf when he is winning an important match. Even the way he walks is annoying -- not to mention his breathing. :lol:

:hug: So, I understand your annoyance completely and urge that you embrace it. :)

Actually you are mistaken. I am merely making an observation. I actually like the fact that Djokovic is a player who can and will take it to roger. It will only make tennis more enjoyable and I welcome the joker to tennis' elite.

I actually hope that nadal can maintain his clay form, djoker can maintain his hard form and that someone like a tsonga can be a threat on the grass. Of course i enjoy federer's tennis but that does not preclude me from appreciating the quality of another opponent.

star
01-25-2008, 11:44 PM
Actually you are mistaken. I am merely making an observation. I actually like the fact that Djokovic is a player who can and will take it to roger. It will only make tennis more enjoyable and I welcome the joker to tennis' elite.

I actually hope that nadal can maintain his clay form, djoker can maintain his hard form and that someone like a tsonga can be a threat on the grass. Of course i enjoy federer's tennis but that does not preclude me from appreciating the quality of another opponent.

Correction noted. :hatoff:

I would never have ever put you in the class of fan who is so unknowlegable as to not appreciate other players. :) It's just that sometimes, some players are just annoying. It's a matter of preference. It doesn't mean you can't appreciate their talent.

World Beater
01-25-2008, 11:51 PM
Correction noted. :hatoff:

I would never have ever put you in the class of fan who is so unknowlegable as to not appreciate other players. :) It's just that sometimes, some players are just annoying. It's a matter of preference. It doesn't mean you can't appreciate their talent.

For the most part i like to stick to the tennis, however, when a poster resorts to character assessments about particular players that I find to be erroneous, I have tried to correct them.

I dont do this so much anymore partially because most posters are already decided and because it is so subjective anyway.

For example, you find sampras banal while others find him graceful and reserved. I find djokovic to be brash and cocky at times (which isn't necessarily a bad thing. each player has their own formula for success), and you find him exciting and confident.

star
01-25-2008, 11:55 PM
For the most part i like to stick to the tennis, however, when a poster resorts to character assessments about particular players that I find to be erroneous, I have tried to correct them.

I dont do this so much anymore partially because most posters are already decided and because it is so subjective anyway.

For example, you find sampras banal while others find him graceful and reserved. I find djokovic to be brash and cocky at times (which isn't necessarily a bad thing. each player has their own formula for success), and you find him exciting and confident.

Personality conflicts in sports make for interesting contests many times.

But you are mistaken in one tiny way. I don't find Sampras "banal." I don't think I would ever use that word to describe him.

l_mac
01-25-2008, 11:56 PM
Correction noted. :hatoff:

I would never have ever put you in the class of fan who is so unknowlegable as to not appreciate other players. :) It's just that sometimes, some players are just annoying. It's a matter of preference. It doesn't mean you can't appreciate their talent.

Right. Sometimes I'm not sure why Nole annoys me so much, and then there he is. Winning matches, being annoying. :shrug:

I'll just never warm to him :sad:

World Beater
01-25-2008, 11:56 PM
Personality conflicts in sports make for interesting contests many times.

But you are mistaken in one tiny way. I don't find Sampras "banal." I don't think I would ever use that word to describe him.

i always thought you were a sampras hater.;)

star
01-26-2008, 12:05 AM
i always thought you were a sampras hater.;)

Oh, yes. True enough. But not because I found him banal. :) :)

vidanhv
01-26-2008, 12:07 AM
Is this post serious? Ball bouncing? This is hilarious!

star
01-26-2008, 12:08 AM
Right. Sometimes I'm not sure why Nole annoys me so much, and then there he is. Winning matches, being annoying. :shrug:

I'll just never warm to him :sad:

:hug: It's ok.

Anyway, you have the satifaction of knowing that in ten years or maybe even far less, he'll be gone and you'll still be watching tennis. :lol:

l_mac
01-26-2008, 12:09 AM
Is this post serious? Ball bouncing? This is hilarious!

If you are this easily amused you are going to love MTF.

The Pro
01-26-2008, 12:09 AM
On a side-note, I really don't get the mirka hatred at this place. Accusations that she only 'supporting' Roger. Glee when she is annoyed that Roger feels. People obviously see her as someone who calls themselves tennis royalty.

I don't see it that way, she just seems reserved. Some people deal with nerves quietly without shouting up a storm for the player their supporting. It's not any less support.

Plus jabs at her weight are just cheap shots. She seems nice and curvy to me. But I digress. :confused:

NYCtennisfan
01-26-2008, 12:12 AM
I was very impressed with uncle Toni after the final of the Paris tournament, he was at the same stand with Martin Jaite and Nalbandian's people, after the end of the final at which his nephew was crushed he stayed in his place and genuinely congratulated the winner. Very classy indeed, as GWH says you learn more about people on how they react after a defeat than after a victory.

Uncle Toni has always been classy in defeat, appauding opponents' shots and geniuely seeming to congratulate from the stands whoever beat his nephew.

l_mac
01-26-2008, 12:14 AM
Uncle Toni has always been classy in defeat, appauding opponents' shots and geniuely seeming to congratulate from the stands whoever beat his nephew.

I think he loves it when Rafa gets a beatdown. Clan Nadal are obsessed with keeping him humble. Nothing does that better than the bagel diet.

star
01-26-2008, 12:15 AM
On a side-note, I really don't get the mirka hatred at this place. Accusations that she only 'supporting' Roger. Glee when she is annoyed that Roger feels. People obviously see her as someone who calls themselves tennis royalty.

I don't see it that way, she just seems reserved. Some people deal with nerves quietly without shouting up a storm for the player their supporting. It's not any less support.

Plus jabs at her weight are just cheap shots. She seems nice and curvy to me. But I digress. :confused:

Smug. Self-satisfied. Bad tasted in jewlery. I could go on, but I won't. Oh yeah. Gum chewing.

I know these are the worst traits in the world. I mean, it's nothing like wearing a jacket that helps spell out a family player's name, but it works for me. :)

The Pro
01-26-2008, 12:17 AM
Is she though? Really? Do you know her personally?

You see. The criticism of her seems like pretty 'catty' stuff to me.

EDIT: No offence to your avatar...

World Beater
01-26-2008, 12:18 AM
I think he loves it when Rafa gets a beatdown. Clan Nadal are obsessed with keeping him humble. Nothing does that better than the bagel diet.

i cannot forget uncle toni's comment in the herald tribute after nadal's 2006 rg win.

He said sth along the lines of "i am not proud that rafael beat federer. Federer is a phenomenal player and I would have welcomed such a historical achivement"

i had to :haha: at that comment. maybe someone can find the exact quote.

Marek.
01-26-2008, 12:19 AM
I think he loves it when Rafa gets a beatdown. Clan Nadal are obsessed with keeping him humble. Nothing does that better than the bagel diet.

:lol:

star
01-26-2008, 12:20 AM
Is she though? Really? Do you know her personally?

You see. The criticism of her seems like pretty 'catty' stuff to me.

EDIT: No offence to your avatar...

None taken. :hatoff:

Definitely catty. I mean, what's the point if it's not petty and irrational? ;)

The Pro
01-26-2008, 12:23 AM
None taken. :hatoff:

Definitely catty. I mean, what's the point if it's not petty and irrational? ;)

Ha, I guess. The whole Anna Wintour thing is odd I agree. :p

vidanhv
01-26-2008, 12:26 AM
Well, yeah... I'm new here! But still... Ball bouncing hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

l_mac
01-26-2008, 12:27 AM
i cannot forget uncle toni's comment in the herald tribute after nadal's 2006 rg win.

He said sth along the lines of "i am not proud that rafael beat federer. Federer is a phenomenal player and I would have welcomed such a historical achivement"

i had to :haha: at that comment. maybe someone can find the exact quote.

Uncle Toni is a tonic. I'm sure he once said that if Gasquet is an 8 in talent, Rafa is a 4 so he has to work harder :lol: Uncle and coach. Inspirational.

star
01-26-2008, 12:28 AM
Uncle Toni is a tonic.

:lol: :lol:

star
01-26-2008, 12:30 AM
Well, yeah... I'm new here! But still... Ball bouncing hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

If ball bouncing entertains you, try WTAWorld where they are talking about shoes squeaking. You'll like it there too. :)

vidanhv
01-26-2008, 12:35 AM
If ball bouncing entertains you, try WTAWorld where they are talking about shoes squeaking. You'll like it there too. :)
I mean, it sounds as extremely pathetic excuse! Yeah, the guys out there are training their asses off to be annoyed with the longer preparation of another player. Its ridiculous.

buddyholly
01-26-2008, 12:44 AM
I didn't think it would happen so quickly, but I am already tired of the Djokovic circus. I hope Tsonga destroys him and I hope we get lots of shots of his box.

In the same vein I want Sharapova to lose, because of her father.

star
01-26-2008, 12:46 AM
I mean, it sounds as extremely pathetic excuse! Yeah, the guys out there are training their asses off to be annoyed with the longer preparation of another player. Its ridiculous.

Yeah. Joking aside, I agree.

Anyway, to me it seems to be a great indicator of nerves and a player shouldn't show that so readily to the opponent.

star
01-26-2008, 12:47 AM
I didn't think it would happen so quickly, but I am already tired of the Djokovic circus. I hope Tsonga destroys him and I hope we get lots of shots of his box.

In the same vein I want Sharapova to lose, because of her father.

Rather than Ivanovic because of her shoes? :lol: :lol:

Manon
01-26-2008, 12:48 AM
I didn't think it would happen so quickly, but I am already tired of the Djokovic circus. I hope Tsonga destroys him and I hope we get lots of shots of his box.



So do I, realy. But, I think Novak is Novak, father & 208 relatives are 2 diferent things. Real circus dislike in Serbia too (pretty much).

vidanhv
01-26-2008, 12:53 AM
Yeah. Joking aside, I agree.

Anyway, to me it seems to be a great indicator of nerves and a player shouldn't show that so readily to the opponent.
i agree. But still, are there any consequences? Nole is really emotional player... if he doesn't reveal his emotions with ball bouncing, he will certainly do it with looking at his box, smashing the racket or cursing out loud. But I have to say... so many years we didn't see any emotions on the court. This is quite refreshing :) Unfortunately, even Fed was emotional at the begining of his carrier and look at him now. Think that Nole,if he ever reaches the altitude of Fed's success or get near to it, will switch his emotions for elegance of the play. If...

FedFan_2007
01-26-2008, 02:12 AM
Nah I think Djoker will always be a classless brute like Lendl.

fleabitten
01-26-2008, 02:16 AM
The Serbian fans in Australia are annoying, I'll conceed that quite easily.

There was nothing wrong today though, they were excited.

Yes, I agree today they were pretty good. Are they more civilized when their guy is winning? just a question, I don't know the answer.
fb

gomeny
01-26-2008, 02:29 AM
I mean, it sounds as extremely pathetic excuse! Yeah, the guys out there are training their asses off to be annoyed with the longer preparation of another player. Its ridiculous.

Do you know what gamesmanship is? Or are you just being obtuse?

FedFan_2007
01-26-2008, 02:34 AM
Fed doesn't care about Djoko's infinite ball bouncing, he's much more concerned with the shitty state of his rallying backhand. What happened to that superb topspin backhand from 1 year ago that awed me?

SwiSha
01-26-2008, 02:38 AM
Fed doesn't care about Djoko's infinite ball bouncing, he's much more concerned with the shitty state of his rallying backhand. What happened to that superb topspin backhand from 1 year ago that awed me?

from 1 year ago u mean since the day u registered on mtf

maybe he will get his bh back when u disappear from here

lmfao

FedFan_2007
01-26-2008, 02:43 AM
from 1 year ago u mean since the day u registered on mtf

maybe he will get his bh back when u disappear from here

lmfao

Fuck you. I registered before the AO. :mad::mad::mad::mad: I'm aM SO going to get out the long knives the next time Roger beats Djokerbitch in a slam.

SwiSha
01-26-2008, 02:44 AM
Fuck you. I registered before the AO. :mad::mad::mad::mad: I'm aM SO going to get out the long knives the next time Roger beats Djokerbitch in a slam.

muahahahaha

FedFan_2007
01-26-2008, 02:50 AM
I don't care if I get banned now. I can understand RFK's madness now. I pity that pour soul who committed suicide because his favorite player lost badly in a slam. Life isn't worth losing over a millionaire tennis player losing a match, but RFK is in a "Better" place now. I have to struggle now in the next few weeks to avoid the "madness" of RFK. It's hovering, always threatening. I can't stand the DJokerbitch.

bluefork
01-26-2008, 02:51 AM
So if we're picking on the Djoke here, I'd like to point out that he is WAY too in love with his own body. Not only does he take his shirt off whenever he wins a big match, but even on changeovers, he makes a point of standing up and facing the crowd to change shirts so that everyone can see what an Adonis he is. :rolleyes:

The guy is a total egomaniac. He grosses me out.:p

FedFan_2007
01-26-2008, 02:53 AM
So if we're picking on the Djoke here, I'd like to point out that he is WAY too in love with his own body. Not only does he take his shirt off whenever he wins a big match, but even on changeovers, he makes a point of standing up and facing the crowd to change shirts so that everyone can see what an Adonis he is. :rolleyes:

The guy is a total egomaniac. He grosses me out.:p

No kidding! It's not like he's Paradorn Fucking Srichipan either. Now that guy is certainly #1 in the locker room. :eek::eek:

vidanhv
01-26-2008, 03:49 AM
Do you know what gamesmanship is? Or are you just being obtuse?
Yeah... Having understanding for the needs of your opponent so he could play the points that should be under his control to the best of his abilities??? Nole takes a lot of time to serv because of his own insecurity, not to play with the mind of his opponents. According to you, half of the WTA tour should be baned from the tournaments because they need ages to serve. There are a lot of guys having the same problem, with Nole and Nadal leading the crowd (pretty much as they do it in other ways along with Fed). Only, there is just one Federer, the other two will have to prove a lot more.

azza
01-26-2008, 04:07 AM
this thread is to long to read

someone sum it up for me

Corey Feldman
01-26-2008, 04:14 AM
this thread is to long to read

someone sum it up for meNole's father is a prick

hope this helps.

vidanhv
01-26-2008, 04:20 AM
Nole's father is a prick

hope this helps.
:) :) :) :)

Alex999
01-26-2008, 04:43 AM
Nole's father is a prick

hope this helps.


Novak's father might be a prick and his family might be annoying but Djokovic is an amazing tennis player. That's the only thing I care for.

gomeny
01-26-2008, 05:06 AM
Yeah... Having understanding for the needs of your opponent so he could play the points that should be under his control to the best of his abilities??? Nole takes a lot of time to serv because of his own insecurity, not to play with the mind of his opponents. According to you, half of the WTA tour should be baned from the tournaments because they need ages to serve. There are a lot of guys having the same problem, with Nole and Nadal leading the crowd (pretty much as they do it in other ways along with Fed). Only, there is just one Federer, the other two will have to prove a lot more.

Wow you're a troll. Gamesmanship isn't illegal. I never said they should be banned. I don't really like Federer or Nadal either. So a guy who can come up with monster second serves has an issue with timing:confused:

Savo
01-26-2008, 10:35 AM
How very small of you to begin babbling about Rochus since I was not discussing Djokovic' results but his attitude. Olivier will not win a GS, but he is a real sportsman and gentleman. I don't expect such kind of behaviour from a player from Eastern Europe :angel:

I always thought tennis was about winning and being the best. There are different ways to do it. Even if he is a prick, he's not pretending. He could be the biggest sportsman out there, but that won't give you wins. No game no fame. You have to be arrogant these days...

And I like Ollie by the way...

Sean.J.S.
01-26-2008, 10:36 AM
What is the point of this thread? :confused:

~Jin~
01-26-2008, 11:41 AM
his father is annoying

l_mac
01-26-2008, 01:53 PM
So if we're picking on the Djoke here, I'd like to point out that he is WAY too in love with his own body. Not only does he take his shirt off whenever he wins a big match, but even on changeovers, he makes a point of standing up and facing the crowd to change shirts so that everyone can see what an Adonis he is. :rolleyes:

The guy is a total egomaniac. He grosses me out.:p

:haha: :haha:

*adds to list*

Petrovic
01-26-2008, 02:21 PM
Father, mother , grandmother, aunt, sister in law etc..
You ppl need to pick on something irrelevant to justify your jellosy .

What we need in tennis ? A library atmosphere?
No emotions and 50 year old virgins drinking tea ?

This is a GRAND SLAM , one of the biggest event in tennis .
Sit back and enjoy yourselfs, enjoy world class tennis !
Stop moaning about somebody's aunt or far relative.

~Jin~
01-26-2008, 04:25 PM
So if we're picking on the Djoke here, I'd like to point out that he is WAY too in love with his own body. Not only does he take his shirt off whenever he wins a big match, but even on changeovers, he makes a point of standing up and facing the crowd to change shirts so that everyone can see what an Adonis he is. :rolleyes:

The guy is a total egomaniac. He grosses me out.:p

what a show off. so full of himself..:eek:

fangirl
01-26-2008, 04:42 PM
What is the point of this thread? :confused:

To waste space.

shpritzer
01-26-2008, 05:04 PM
what a lame thread!
i mean, come on, djokovic is still just a kid. give him (and his father) a couple more years to get used to being a celebrity/millionaire/champion... that's how i justify his sometimes arrogant behavior. all in all he's quite a nice guy.
and as for his father, who cares about players parents!? IMO they get way to much attention and camera time during a game. they even got this thread!!! :)
concerning the ball bouncing issue - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcW6gQUzUcA&feature=related

guille&tati4life
01-26-2008, 05:22 PM
The point of the thread is pretty obvious, that his box and fans make as much noise as anyone else but get pissed when opposition fans do it. That's the only point.

It's not really a judgement on Djokovic at all, I don't even dislike him. It's just a comment on the somewhat hypocritical behaviour of his box.

I just tied it in with the fact that i don't like his ball-bouncing :p but as I said, lots of people show a bit of gamesmanship and it's no real problem to me. Just feel umpires should do something about it when he takes ages :shrug:

The Pro
01-26-2008, 05:48 PM
What is the point of this thread? :confused:

This thread is a necessary hatchet job on Djokovic. Like the thread made when Nadal told Berdych that he was very bad, the thread made when Roddick started screaming at officials again, the thread made when Baghdatis joined an evil nationalist organisation, and any thread made when Federer has the audacity to say that actually -he's rather good at tennis!

I love these threads. :D

SAtennis
01-26-2008, 05:58 PM
So many classless Djokotards here.

vidanhv
01-26-2008, 06:08 PM
Fantastic video hahaha

Stensland
01-26-2008, 06:10 PM
So many classless Djokotards here.

absolutely not. most serbs on mtf (and there's hardly any non-serb left supporting djokovic) are great guys, which makes it even more sad that "their" guy and his staff are such idiots. they have to put up with all the crap the djokovic camp is doing/saying and they are doing it in a decent and calm way (most of the time), so hats off. rafatards and fedtards are worse regarding this matter.

mangoes
01-26-2008, 06:52 PM
absolutely not. most serbs on mtf (and there's hardly any non-serb left supporting djokovic) are great guys, which makes it even more sad that "their" guy and his staff are such idiots. they have to put up with all the crap the djokovic camp is doing/saying and they are doing it in a decent and calm way (most of the time), so hats off. rafatards and fedtards are worse regarding this matter.






Here's a post by one of those great serbian posters:

After AO 2008 Tsonga will fade away like many others...They're all talented enough but someone has a brain, someone not...

In fact, Tsonga=Puerta, you'll see.

Real classy calling Tsonga brainless and a drug user.

Corey Feldman
01-26-2008, 08:07 PM
Blaming me again, as usual

l_mac
01-26-2008, 08:07 PM
Do you really think that that's offensive as let's say these few posts are:

Let's not start this. It will not end well.

dejosav
01-26-2008, 08:08 PM
@escude
I just gave u good rep half n hour ago?

Aloimeh
01-26-2008, 08:12 PM
Let's not start this. It will not end well.

Yeah, well regardless of how classless Djokovic's family may be and regardless of Djokovic's personal faults (and there are many, from his boundless arrogance, to his impersonations and pissiness on the court at times), the Djoko fans on this board have been a lot more civil than some federer/nadal fans. At least we didn't go about yammering on about the (real or fake) histories of Spain or Switzerland or some such nonsense that has nothing to do with tennis. But Djokovic fans, and Serbian fans in general, get all sorts of sh!t thrown in their face by a bunch of ignorant bigoted hypocrites.

Corey Feldman
01-26-2008, 08:17 PM
@escude
I just gave u good rep half n hour ago? I know

you agreed with me that Nole's dad is a lunatic

and btw (for the thread) he was screaming at Fed fans yesterday after Nole won the 1st set - not shouting, not gesturing... but screaming at them like some mental dictator.

mangoes
01-26-2008, 08:18 PM
Do you really think that that's offensive as let's say these few posts are:

YES

and more offensive than Mikey's post.

l_mac
01-26-2008, 08:20 PM
Yeah, well regardless of how classless Djokovic's family may be and regardless of Djokovic's personal faults (and there are many, from his boundless arrogance, to his impersonations and pissiness on the court at times), the Djoko fans on this board have been a lot more civil than some federer/nadal fans. At least we didn't go about yammering on about the (real or fake) histories of Spain or Switzerland or some such nonsense that has nothing to do with tennis. But Djokovic fans, and Serbian fans in general, get all sorts of sh!t thrown in their face by a bunch of ignorant bigoted hypocrites.


This is not true. No fanbase is without it's "special" members. Posters who go out of their way to be offensive are not that common, they're just very, very loud.

CyBorg
01-26-2008, 08:21 PM
Djoko seems all right, but his posse could learn a thing or two about class. I don't mind Novak's cockiness - I don't even mind if he becomes a complete twat. He's the player after all. It's the folks that are not playing - his parents, the rest of his family and a number of his annoying fanboys - that need to realize that they are embarrassing themselves. They have not earned the right to act like jackasses. All they are doing is sitting, watching and fooling themselves into thinking that somehow they matter.

mangoes
01-26-2008, 08:22 PM
Yeah, well regardless of how classless Djokovic's family may be and regardless of Djokovic's personal faults (and there are many, from his boundless arrogance, to his impersonations and pissiness on the court at times), the Djoko fans on this board have been a lot more civil than some federer/nadal fans. At least we didn't go about yammering on about the (real or fake) histories of Spain or Switzerland or some such nonsense that has nothing to do with tennis. But Djokovic fans, and Serbian fans in general, get all sorts of sh!t thrown in their face by a bunch of ignorant bigoted hypocrites.

Stop making up crap. I think those sort of nationalistic debates are held among the Djokovic fans.

Aloimeh
01-26-2008, 08:29 PM
Stop making up crap. I think those sort of nationalistic debates are held among the Djokovic fans.

I didn't make anything up. Did you see the posts that dejosav quoted? There are many others, like Vincayou's "joke" about WWI. Open your eyes! It's not the Djokovic fans that are assaulting Federer's Swiss nationality or Nadal's Spanish nationality.

l_mac
01-26-2008, 08:46 PM
I didn't make anything up. Did you see the posts that dejosav quoted? There are many others, like Vincayou's "joke" about WWI. Open your eyes! It's not the Djokovic fans that are assaulting Federer's Swiss nationality or Nadal's Spanish nationality.


I've had my nationality attacked by Djokotards :wavey:

Like I said before, no fanbase is without it's share of idiots.

mangoes
01-26-2008, 08:46 PM
I didn't make anything up. Did you see the posts that dejosav quoted? There are many others, like Vincayou's "joke" about WWI. Open your eyes! It's not the Djokovic fans that are assaulting Federer's Swiss nationality or Nadal's Spanish nationality.

Ezekiel

And like I said, I see more nationalistic stuff from Djokotards than from the other fan bases. I don't know the context in which Mikey and GU's statements were made. For all I know, they could have been in response to Ezekiel. And I find the statement accusing Tsonga of drug use more offensive than Mikey's statement.

Dzordzzz!
01-26-2008, 08:49 PM
This is really stupid thread.Djokovic is good player and he is behave well on court and outside of court.And what the hell are some people expecting from his family,to sit and cry when he is winning?They are just cheering for him FFS!Sorry becouse bad english!

Aloimeh
01-26-2008, 08:49 PM
I've had my nationality attacked by Djokotards :wavey:

Like I said before, no fanbase is without it's share of idiots.

Well, if that's true, I'm sorry about my comments. I guess I didn't see that.

Aerion
01-26-2008, 09:24 PM
Seeing he likes to make fun of others. I couldn't help but notice him lifting his arms into the air to help his breathing. Which is the correct thing to do. Wonder if he'd like someone imitating him. :rolleyes:

Dzordzzz!
01-26-2008, 09:31 PM
Seeing he likes to make fun of others. I couldn't help but notice him lifting his arms into the air to help his breathing. Which is the correct thing to do. Wonder if he'd like someone imitating him. :rolleyes:



I dont think that he will be mad becouse of that.

Månu
01-26-2008, 10:05 PM
This is really stupid thread.Djokovic is good player and he is behave well on court and outside of court.And what the hell are some people expecting from his family,to sit and cry when he is winning?They are just cheering for him FFS!Sorry becouse bad english!

Cheering is one thing, being disrespectful to the other camp's supporters is another... that's why they have been criticized!