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Djokovic outguns Federer 7-5 6-3 7-6 (5) to reach AO 2008 Final

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Deivid23
01-25-2008, 11:13 AM
Fucking brilliant from Nole :yeah:

Straight sets annihilation :haha:

The King is dead, long live the King! :D



Now bring on the excuses :lol:

RagingLamb
01-25-2008, 11:14 AM
there will be a new champion at AO

SwiSha
01-25-2008, 11:14 AM
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssss

marcRD
01-25-2008, 11:14 AM
Great match by Djoko, Feds forehand was not working.

adee-gee
01-25-2008, 11:14 AM
:worship:

leng jai
01-25-2008, 11:14 AM
One of the worst matches Federer has ever played since 2004.

eck
01-25-2008, 11:14 AM
:lol:
Fed thought he won it after the the break for 5-4 in 1st set, then came crashing down.


Good stuff from Nole, but Tsonga will hopefully bring something better to the table.


First time Melb Park will not have either seed 1 or 2 in the finals. :eek:

SwiSha
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
there will be a new champion at AO

u think?

Sean.J.S.
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
Omg. :eek: It's been a looong time since Federer has lost a Grand Slam match in straight sets!

Well done Nole! :banana:

anousleshommes@h
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
Federe Out Yeeeeeeees!!!!!

Regenbogen
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
well that was interesting :haha:

Medina
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
FUck yes.. :rocker2:

Exodus
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
Ali boomaye joker LOL

Jaap
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

World Beater
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
too good from nole. well done. federer deserved to lose this one.

Mr.Gasquet
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
Well Done, Nole. I was expecting this win for him! :D :banana:

Mechlan
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
Djokovic was the better player, well done.

RagingLamb
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
u think?

a bit bitter are we?

Il Primo Uomo
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
Fuck Yes!!!!!!!!!!

Frooty_Bazooty
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
wow great match, i cant believe how well Nole held his nerve in the TB. WOW wowow wowwo

tennisgal_001
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
Djokovic was the better man, he earned it, but Federer, what a shameful display in the first two sets.

Björki
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
Nole :woohoo:

:worship:

Scotso
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
Nole :rocker2:

so happy! :D

Albop
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
Omg. :eek: It's been a looong time since Federer has lost a Grand Slam match in straight sets!

Well done Nole! :banana:

since RG 2004 against kuerten ;)

scoobs
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
The only surprise is that Federer didn't get at least 1 set.

I predicted Djokovic in 5, but he was better today and Federer didn't find the answers, so it's the fair result by a fair scoreline.

dijus
01-25-2008, 11:15 AM
fuck yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Polikarpov
01-25-2008, 11:16 AM
It's bound to happen.

Mimi
01-25-2008, 11:16 AM
:woohoo::dance::bowdown::yippee::rocker2::music:

CooCooCachoo
01-25-2008, 11:16 AM
Great job, Nole :worship:

Fee
01-25-2008, 11:16 AM
Wow.

Well, you better win it all now Nole (or I will hunt you down and skin you).

dylan24
01-25-2008, 11:16 AM
pete sampras' gs record is safe.
this is the end of fed's run

Frooty_Bazooty
01-25-2008, 11:16 AM
a bit bitter are we?

he was more referencing how blatantly obvious that already was

RagingLamb
01-25-2008, 11:16 AM
from the WWW poll, only 9/297 or 3.03% people got it right. wow.

SwiSha
01-25-2008, 11:16 AM
One of the worst matches Federer has ever played since 2004.

hmm wasnt it fed who said

Domination isn’t down to poor competition, it’s about making the difficult look easy.

MatchFederer
01-25-2008, 11:17 AM
I cannot express how upset I am by this result, with it being a straight sets victory. Federer must be crushed by this.

bad gambler
01-25-2008, 11:17 AM
:clap2:

marcRD
01-25-2008, 11:17 AM
One of the worst matches Federer has ever played since 2004.

Not really that bad, just below avarage. His backhand was okay and he served good. Just lost important points and the damn forehand wasnt working at all.

CyBorg
01-25-2008, 11:17 AM
Pretty sad to see Roger lose like this. He just gave this one away. Laver never lost like this in a big match.

savesthedizzle
01-25-2008, 11:17 AM
My nerves are shot. :rolls:

Nole :worship:

Fed wasn't himself for a while there, but my goodness, I have been waiting for this for years. Keep it up Nole!

Stensland
01-25-2008, 11:17 AM
boo.

go jo!

scoobs
01-25-2008, 11:17 AM
I said this day was coming, I said this felt like the right court at the right time and the right opponent for Federer to be toppled, and I wish I hadn't been, but in the end it came as I expected.

Or Levy
01-25-2008, 11:17 AM
Congrats Nole.

Roger, whatever wasn't working today, go back and fix it.

ugotlobbed
01-25-2008, 11:17 AM
federer deserved to lose, but djokovic is not going to be #1 with that kind of weak body

Sean.J.S.
01-25-2008, 11:17 AM
since RG 2004 against kuerten ;)

Thanks. :)

~*BGT*~
01-25-2008, 11:17 AM
:haha: :lol: :haha: :lol:

Duuuuuuuuuuuude!!! That was one of the most impressive performances I've ever seen. :eek: The Djoke with brass balls has taken out King Feds. :rocker2:

HNCS
01-25-2008, 11:17 AM
a surreal feeling right now....

trixtah
01-25-2008, 11:18 AM
smoked...judging by Roger's play in the previous rounds it was already predicted that he would lose. Better than losing to Tsonga :] Now win your first, Novak!

Voo de Mar
01-25-2008, 11:18 AM
The reflection of last year US Open final. There was 3-0 to Federer with two tight sets, now vice versa:
1st set: 5:3 (30-0)
3rd set: 6:5 (30-0) + two setpoints

Nole :worship:

JustJames
01-25-2008, 11:18 AM
Neither played their peak ability tennis but Federer looked lethargic and one step behind Djoko who, aside from his drop shots, looked sharp, fresh and determined.

Well done Djoko :yeah: Can't wait for the final..!

SwiSha
01-25-2008, 11:18 AM
a bit bitter are we?

bitter

my money was on nole u fucking moron :haha:

dodoboy
01-25-2008, 11:18 AM
the beast is slayed!

Tennis Fool
01-25-2008, 11:18 AM
I only saw the end of the third set (hey, it's 6am here and I have to work). Would love to get my hands on the whole match.

dodoboy
01-25-2008, 11:18 AM
the FINAL:drool:

zicofirol
01-25-2008, 11:18 AM
this is great, finally something different...

Albop
01-25-2008, 11:18 AM
Bye Bye Golden slam :)

RagingLamb
01-25-2008, 11:18 AM
he was more referencing how blatantly obvious that already was

hey, it's no different than saying "yessss"...or "wooohooo".

I wasn't making an announcement, it was just my reaction.

people need to fucking relax.

2moretogo
01-25-2008, 11:18 AM
finally. a new champion in a slam besides Roger or Nadal. I hear some mugs cracking.

gusman890
01-25-2008, 11:18 AM
First time since '05 that the 1&2 seeds arnt playing.

Congrats to the Joker, its going to be an interesting final, thats for sure. :)

SwiSha
01-25-2008, 11:19 AM
he was more referencing how blatantly obvious that already was

thanks i thought it was obvious

NyGeL
01-25-2008, 11:19 AM
lovely match, nice tennis :)

Now Nole can't lose this one...

Polikarpov
01-25-2008, 11:19 AM
Nole better beat Jo!

Farenhajt
01-25-2008, 11:19 AM
I want to dedicate this win to all Nole haters and dismissive Fedtards - enjoy the scoreline :)

And if there is such thing as "JesusFed", today we witnessed the birth of ApostleDjok :worship:

Marek.
01-25-2008, 11:19 AM
First of all, congratulations to Novak. He fully deserved this win and outplayed Fed from all areas of the court. He was the better player on all of the big points and did a great job of withstanding the fight from Fed in that third set.

Now on to Roger. What the fuck has happend to your baseline game? I know a lot of people will say it was because of Novak and part of that is true but he was just way too defensive in those first two sets. He started to loosen up in the third but it was too late.

TMJordan
01-25-2008, 11:19 AM
Easy win.

I should be a profesional gambler.

Shabazza
01-25-2008, 11:19 AM
Couldn't see most of the match, just the first set and the TB in the end. Congrats to Nole. Well played, great composure to close it out.
Fed, that was poor playing so many UE's, but every streak has to end sometimes. :sad:
Anyway, we get a new GS winner and for the first time since 4 years I can watch a final without caring who wins. That's good for a change. :)

Leo
01-25-2008, 11:19 AM
One of the worst matches Federer has ever played since 2004.

Go fuck yourself. He played well. Would have beaten just about anyone in the world besides stunning Djokovic. Outplayed. Period.

alelysafina
01-25-2008, 11:19 AM
WOW! Congrats to Nole :D This is going to be an interesting final!

Exodus
01-25-2008, 11:20 AM
not surprised really joker almost beat roger in the uso final but roger should have won the first set and the tie-breaker in the third.
im happy now that finally some else will win a slam!

Adler
01-25-2008, 11:20 AM
This should be a final. Let's hope the real one will be a beauty too

Too much errors by Fed, but the quality of this match was awesome, I'm telling you

Djoko :worship:
take the Grand Slam now (BANDWAGON ALERT), I want to see it in my lifetime

Chileno
01-25-2008, 11:20 AM
Finally a final without Fed or Nadal! Tennis is fun again!

Freeze17171
01-25-2008, 11:20 AM
I only saw the end of the third set (hey, it's 6am here and I have to work). Would love to get my hands on the whole match.

You caught the best part of the match by far, the first two were uneven because of Fed's low quality of play.

MatchFederer
01-25-2008, 11:20 AM
Well done Djokovic and may the best man win the final.

Win Roland Garros Roger.. go on.

Lucinda
01-25-2008, 11:20 AM
Sweet heavens! I'm so excited that someone new is going to win their first slam on Sunday!

Rogieva
01-25-2008, 11:20 AM
Fed was injured.

foul_dwimmerlaik
01-25-2008, 11:20 AM
Holy

Crap!!!!!!!!!!

Ajde Nole!!!!!!!!!!

RagingLamb
01-25-2008, 11:20 AM
bitter

my money was on nole u fucking moron :haha:


it was just a reaction, no different than anyone else's. So relax.

Marek.
01-25-2008, 11:20 AM
Fed was injured.

I'm pretty sure he wasn't.

A_Skywalker
01-25-2008, 11:20 AM
Easy win.

I should be a profesional gambler.

I thought you are

Avid Merrion
01-25-2008, 11:21 AM
:eek: while it's not a total surprise given the way Roger's been playing at the AO, i'm still shocked that Nole pulled it off quite so convincingly.

:worship: well done Nole! should be an interesting final.... ;)

Magenta
01-25-2008, 11:21 AM
I'm about to cry.

So proud.

Oh yeah, and he still hasn't dropped a set.

yomike
01-25-2008, 11:21 AM
It would be amazing if he finally breakthrough in Sunday. When I saw him play Coria at FO 2005 I really thought he was gonna be really good. GL in the final Novak.

See yeah! Fed

anousleshommes@h
01-25-2008, 11:21 AM
A Thread Www Tsonga - Djoko

Stensland
01-25-2008, 11:21 AM
I want to dedicate this win to all Nole haters and dismissive Fedtards - enjoy the scoreline :)

And if there is such thing as "JesusFed", today we witnessed the birth of ApostleDjok :worship:

you're not even a tennis fan so who're you to judge anyways? fanboy got registered once the countryman made a move, great stuff. :rolleyes:

optimism
01-25-2008, 11:21 AM
The devil prevails. there's no god.

Tennis Fool
01-25-2008, 11:21 AM
ESPN comms said that Roger's movement wasn't good. Was that the case?

Ales_Alessandra
01-25-2008, 11:21 AM
NOLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
WELL DONEEE!!! NOW WIN ITTTT!!!

blueskye
01-25-2008, 11:22 AM
:worship: I new champion will be crowned, I love Roger and all, but Djokovic's level of tennis has been fantastic! I am sooooooooooo happy for him :D:D

VolandriFan
01-25-2008, 11:22 AM
Finally someone not afraid to beat Roger. The losses are becoming more frequent now. I'm sure Roger will continue to win Wimbledon or the US Open for quite a few years still, but I don't see him making an impression on RG or the Australian Open with this new surface.

Good play under pressure by Nole. He did what so many other haven't been able to over the years.

SwiSha
01-25-2008, 11:22 AM
it was just a reaction, no different than anyone else's. So relax.

just admit that u did not get the message because u are just that dumb

no shame in it

:haha:

new-york
01-25-2008, 11:22 AM
Fed was really embarassing at some point but Nole managed to close the match after Fed began to play better.

yayprops.:D

R.Federer
01-25-2008, 11:22 AM
Federer fought a great match but the better player won. So..... congratulations!

anon57
01-25-2008, 11:23 AM
Just too good from Djokovic today, congrats on a deserved win.

Sagacious
01-25-2008, 11:23 AM
This is sad!!

BBC Report >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/7208679.stm

RagingLamb
01-25-2008, 11:23 AM
just admit that u did not get the message because u are just that dumb

no shame in it

:haha:

and what message is that?

RogiRafaFan86
01-25-2008, 11:24 AM
Man, Roger looked flat. Mostly credit to Djokovic (much as it pains me to say that) for making him look that way.

I guess Roger was just so shell shocked that Tsonga had denied him his final with his Rafa. Never could pull himself out of that funk...poor baby.

Well this takes just about all of the attention off of Rafa's SF loss, doesn't it?

scoobs
01-25-2008, 11:24 AM
Nole's US Open defeat was victory delayed but not denied.

He should have been 2 sets up in that match.

He learned from his mistakes then and controlled his nerves better and we see the result.

It's going to be an interesting 2008.

savesthedizzle
01-25-2008, 11:24 AM
I'm about to cry.

So proud.

Oh yeah, and he still hasn't dropped a set.


:hug:

No he hasn't let's keep that trend going :p

R.Federer
01-25-2008, 11:24 AM
Fucking brilliant from Nole :yeah:

Straight sets annihilation :haha:

:baby:

Still reeling from yesterday it seems :hug:. Btw, annihilation is the straight set humiliating score that Nadal lost by ;)

Farenhajt
01-25-2008, 11:24 AM
you're not even a tennis fan so who're you to judge anyways? fanboy got registered once the countryman made a move, great stuff. :rolleyes:

Cry me a river, Fedbitch ;)

RonE
01-25-2008, 11:24 AM
Very well played by McNoleo, fully deserved win :worship:

He was more solid, he had the firepower on the serve and off the ground when he absolutely needed it he was simply the better player today.

A few things to note:

1.) Djokovic was not afraid to take on the Federer forehand. In many of the forehand to forehand rallies it was Djokovic getting the better end of the deal. In fact many of those angles he hit reminded me a lot of the way Federer used to hit his forehands- getting those amazing angles dragging his opponent out of the court.

2.) Djokovic mixed up the serves brilliantly, especially on the crucial points (set points, BPs etc). He would often hit a barrage of serves out wide to the ad side on Roger's backhand and in those crucial points with Roger expecting another one out wide Djoko would hit the slider down the T.

3.) Novak had the greater self belief and the bigger intensity when it really mattered. Federer showed sparks of brilliance especially in the middle of the first set when he broke, in the latter stages of the second set, and towards the end of the third set until 3-3 in the tiebreaker. The difference is, he could not sustain that type of form and Novak's level never really dropped apart from the blip when serving at 5-1 in the second set.

4.) Mats Wilander commented on this- Roger didn't really come out with a gameplan and I feel he didn't. Mcnoleo learned a lot from the U.S. Open final- he did his homework and made all the right tactical choices today.

5.) There glimpses of Federer trying to be aggressive off the second serve return, but as has been happening a lot lately he wasn't driving enough of those backhand returns and bunted them back. The few times he did employ that tactic he had the ascendancy.

6.) I think Roger was so concentrated last year on fending off Nadal, Djokovic etc who have really stepped it up and no one can keep up that kind of intensity forever. His amazing consistency has started to take a toll as it obviously would. Roger needs to find new direction and step up to the challenges being posed by this younger generation of players.

thesupreme
01-25-2008, 11:24 AM
Well played both men. As much as i dislike Djoker he did the job...

NOW LETS HAVE TSONGA ANNIHILATE HIM IN THE FINAL

Albop
01-25-2008, 11:24 AM
Fed was injured.

no

you are a great losser :yeah:

Dimonator133
01-25-2008, 11:24 AM
Djoker:worship:

Fed:wavey:

StZox
01-25-2008, 11:25 AM
I expected this. Nole plays AWESOME. The new champion is on its way!
Win the title!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SwiSha
01-25-2008, 11:25 AM
and what message is that?

rofl, i was pointing out the obvious, u did not get that its okay

u will learn how to intepret messages with time, its okay really kid

*snowflake*
01-25-2008, 11:26 AM
Dammit i come in here to gloat and the keyboard dies on me...

Anyways,

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Great job Nole :yeah: well deserved

Ego can cry us a river :crying2:

Drimal
01-25-2008, 11:26 AM
Well done Novak! :bigclap: :yeah:

Federer's reign over Melbourne is over! :eek:

tennisgal_001
01-25-2008, 11:26 AM
Djoker:worship:

Fed:wavey:

I kept my promise, stalling indeed :sad:

Deivid23
01-25-2008, 11:26 AM
bitter

my money was on nole u fucking moron :haha:

:lol: :yeah:

cc2monac
01-25-2008, 11:26 AM
congrats nole! wonderful match! He realy wanted to play this final and he realy deserves it! I'm so happy I'm about to cry! Hope he'll play with as much conviction in the final! congrats one more time nole

scoobs
01-25-2008, 11:27 AM
I don't believe Fed was injured, I don't think he was playing particularly badly, though he can of course play better, but I think a lot of that was his opponent doing all the right things and keeping the pressure on his game.

I think he was just outplayed today in nearly every department, pure and simple.

Allstar
01-25-2008, 11:27 AM
Clearly not fully fit. Still a great shame

Deivid23
01-25-2008, 11:27 AM
I bet Pascal Maria is upset, he did all he could to unsettle Nole when serving out for 2nd time the 2nd set. Shame on this idiot :o

pascal'rG
01-25-2008, 11:27 AM
boring match... too many UE from FED.
Where is the 2005/2006 federer's ?
Hope the competition will bring him back to work.

MisterQ
01-25-2008, 11:28 AM
Great play from Djokovic. :yeah:

I was hoping Fed would win some sets, because I was enjoying the match.

This will be an interesting final... hard to predict!

Bibberz
01-25-2008, 11:28 AM
The smart money says Wilander is celebrating. I'm sure he's blitzed by now....

Marek.
01-25-2008, 11:28 AM
I bet Pascal Maria is upset, he did all he could to unsettle Nole when serving out for 2nd time the 2nd set. Shame on this idiot :o

Like what? The violation?

Stensland
01-25-2008, 11:29 AM
Cry me a river, Fedbitch ;)

i'm not a fedbitch, i'm not a nadalbitch. i just don't like djokovic, his family and his game. :wavey:

Bruno71
01-25-2008, 11:30 AM
I think in a matchup like this, Fed's serve let him down. That's why he kept acting like he was fighting an uphill battle. And Nole served so incredibly well, just took over the match. Rogi had his chances in the tiebreak though, but choked them away, and lost to a much better player on the day.

Psichogauchovna
01-25-2008, 11:30 AM
dont get overexcited Djoko fans :hug:

well done Nole though :)

Stensland
01-25-2008, 11:31 AM
NOW LETS HAVE TSONGA ANNIHILATE HIM IN THE FINAL

see, and finally we're on the same side. :)

*Ljubica*
01-25-2008, 11:31 AM
Congrats to Nole :worship: He played well and deserved to win. Roger :awww: :hug: And much as I like and respect Roger, I actually think it's great for the game to have two different names in a Grand Slam final and, whoever wins, there will be a new, first-time Grand Slam winner. It's great :)

HeretiC
01-25-2008, 11:32 AM
A NEW SLAM WINNER IN AO. This really made my day.

~*BGT*~
01-25-2008, 11:32 AM
i'm not a fedbitch, i'm not a nadalbitch. i just don't like djokovic, his family and his game. :wavey:

I can understand that. His family is so annoying. Is wearing regular clothes overrated now?? :rolleyes:

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 11:32 AM
6.) I think Roger was so concentrated last year on fending off Nadal, Djokovic etc who have really stepped it up and no one can keep up that kind of intensity forever. His amazing consistency has started to take a toll as it obviously would.

spot on

Farenhajt
01-25-2008, 11:34 AM
i'm not a fedbitch, i'm not a nadalbitch. i just don't like djokovic, his family and his game. :wavey:

Ah, pardon me:

Cry me a river, Hater ;)

optimism
01-25-2008, 11:34 AM
Congrats to Nole :worship: He played well and deserved to win. Roger :awww: :hug: And much as I like and respect Roger, I actually think it's great for the game to have two different names in a Grand Slam final and, whoever wins, there will be a new, first-time Grand Slam winner. It's great :)

it's great to have a new champ, but not so great if it's nole. If he becomes #1, we'll never hear the end of it from him and his family.

scoobs
01-25-2008, 11:34 AM
I can understand that. His family is so annoying. Is wearing regular clothes overrated now?? :rolleyes:
It's not so much that as the constant standing up and throwing fits in the player's box whenever he hits a winner.

But hey, they're different and they're supporting him - I can't really fault it, I just personally prefer a more decorous approach from the player's box.

Deivid23
01-25-2008, 11:34 AM
Fed was injured.

:haha:

LeChuck
01-25-2008, 11:35 AM
It's great for tennis that we'll be getting a new grand slam champion.
Congratulations to Nole. He was by the far the better player, dominating proceedings from the baseline, and punishing Federer's 2nd serve.

Stensland
01-25-2008, 11:35 AM
Ah, pardon me:

Cry me a river, Hater ;)

there you go. :)

aussie_fan
01-25-2008, 11:36 AM
i can't believe how poorly fed played night while on the other hand djokovic was so impressive with his serve at crucial moment. Was hoping roger could come back, oh well hopefully tsonga will win the final. Well Done Novak

ReturnWinner
01-25-2008, 11:36 AM
Fakervic was too good :worship:, although Federer had huge chances to win the first and the third set, when served for the first he made two or three fh ue but in the last set the faker saved both set points , one with a huge wide serve and the other with a huge serve and fh cc winner combo.


its good for once Federer is not in a slam final :o

Deivid23
01-25-2008, 11:36 AM
Clearly not fully fit. Still a great shame

:lol:

spriwi
01-25-2008, 11:36 AM
pity fed played so poorly during the most important points, netting forehand all the time :( nice match, perfect shots placing by nole in the 2nd set, astonishing stuff :yeah:

i hope tsonga wont beat him in the final :taped:

SwiSha
01-25-2008, 11:37 AM
lol so tennis is now about if u like someones family not about that this kid has game

pathetic people in here

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 11:37 AM
Finally someone not afraid to beat Roger.

improved volleying from Djokovic was the main difference today. Federer tried to blitz him on the very beggining, but got surprised with Djokovic quite competent on the net.

lisaplenske
01-25-2008, 11:37 AM
Federer didnt play at his high level during this AO,not good choices during this semi finale,more in defense than attack.
Thats a shame cause I prefer watch him play than djokovic

his arrogance and his ball bouncing make me sick:sobbing: and what to say about his family?(better to pass:tape:)

Roger needs perhaps a new coach to improve some little things,Im amazed how passive he was in that match whereas he can do so well on the net,put more pressure on the serbian.:confused:

Hopefully Jo has watched this match and take lesson about that.

Allez JO TSONGA!

Neely
01-25-2008, 11:37 AM
Djokovic! :yeah: Congrats to him and his fans... it wasn't a final this time, but it remembered me a bit of the US Open final as Djokovic had the chances, especially in the first set, couldn't take them, and Federer won the set. This first set today was certainly big for Djokovic, too.

Also it has to be said that Federer played better towards the end of the 2nd set, while at the same time Djokovic did not play as well anymore, got nervous, wasn't as loose as before anymore, thought he could rest a bit or whatever, because it seemed that he took a bit pace and placement out of his game (especially the backhand flew higher over the net and wasn't as aggressive as before anymore), and a bit of courage seemed to have left him. I don't know, but I think he invested a bit more into safety. That could have been very dangerous, thinking that 80% would be enough to beat Federer, because if Federer takes the 3rd set tiebreak, he could have found himself quickly in the fifth.

HeretiC
01-25-2008, 11:38 AM
I think in a matchup like this, Fed's serve let him down.

I haven't seen for quite some time Roger serving so poorly.

10 aces, 60% 1st serve. Most of the players on tour would kill to have serve like that. :bolt:

Stensland
01-25-2008, 11:38 AM
pathetic people in here

..says the guy with that signature.

Turquoise
01-25-2008, 11:38 AM
Congratulations Djokovic. Well-deserved victory. :hatoff:

I'm ecstatic that finally, we're going to have a new king on non-clay surface on Sunday. I'll be cheering my lungs and heart out for Tsonga, but whoever wins, I'll still be very happy! :banana::bounce::woohoo:

Play me one more song, Tsonga!!! :hug:

JediFed
01-25-2008, 11:39 AM
We shall see. Be an interesting year now.


1.) Djokovic was not afraid to take on the Federer forehand. In many of the forehand to forehand rallies it was Djokovic getting the better end of the deal. In fact many of those angles he hit reminded me a lot of the way Federer used to hit his forehands- getting those amazing angles dragging his opponent out of the court.


First off, Fed had a break up in the first. There's no way he should have lost in three straight. None, whatsoever. The points between 5-3 and all the way until 5-1 Nole in the second set were inexcusable.

Same with the 40-0 break up in the last set.

Federer had many, many chances. I thought he could take this when I saw him dig down and fight. Nole barely held in the 2nd, look at how long he bounced the ball, that's how worried he was at deuce in the second set, about to lose his break.

Fed converted something like 2-15 bps against Nole. Not good enough.


2.) Djokovic mixed up the serves brilliantly, especially on the crucial points (set points, BPs etc). He would often hit a barrage of serves out wide to the ad side on Roger's backhand and in those crucial points with Roger expecting another one out wide Djoko would hit the slider down the T.


Yes, that was the difference. Everytime he had a second serve Federer would pounce on it. Just weren't enough of those. Routinely Federer would get 40-30, deuce and then lose the game when Nole would either ace or hold.


3.) Novak had the greater self belief and the bigger intensity when it really mattered. Federer showed sparks of brilliance especially in the middle of the first set when he broke, in the latter stages of the second set, and towards the end of the third set until 3-3 in the tiebreaker. The difference is, he could not sustain that type of form and Novak's level never really dropped apart from the blip when serving at 5-1 in the second set.


He had no serve, not until the second game of the third set. He was serving at 45 percent first serves for far too long. That stayed around 60-65, which is nowhere near high enough. He was fighting on his second serve all night.


4.) Mats Wilander commented on this- Roger didn't really come out with a gameplan and I feel he didn't. Mcnoleo learned a lot from the U.S. Open final- he did his homework and made all the right tactical choices today.


With the break he started to impose himself again on Nole's points, I was very impressed. He was cruising along. The disaster started when he gave the break back and then promptly got broken. He was struggling all game to get that first serve in.

It wasn't until the third set that he was finally getting his serve and his points in gear. You could see him start to play his points the way we are used to seeing.


6.) I think Roger was so concentrated last year on fending off Nadal, Djokovic etc who have really stepped it up and no one can keep up that kind of intensity forever. His amazing consistency has started to take a toll as it obviously would. Roger needs to find new direction and step up to the challenges being posed by this younger generation of players.


There's no reason for a straight sets loss, not like this. His collapse at the end of the first set was atrocious, and I was shocked when he got broken the second time in the second set.

Nole, great game and great serving, but way, way too many UFE's by Federer. I can't count how many times he clipped the net.

aeronatasha
01-25-2008, 11:39 AM
Was it my imagination or did I saw tears on Novak's face? Awwwwwwwww..
Way to go!

I was so terrified throughout the match.. You can say what you want, but Fed is ALWAYS dangerous.

Brilliant composure Novak.

Now go win it, you deserve it!

I don't think I've ever heard Roger asking for a challenge with so much anger in that 2.nd set. Pascal didn't hear him from the roar of the crowd, so Roger repeated :"CHALLENGE I SAID!".

juninhOH
01-25-2008, 11:39 AM
well I think Roger felt the pressure, as incredible as it sounds, like he does feel when he faces Nadal and when he faced Djokovic last US Open. I mean, he missed some pretty easy shots. Like there was a EAAAAAAASY net-play on the 15-30 of 3-5 in the 2nd set that he should really hit it and he threw it on the net, disgusting. What could be 15-40 became 30-30 and eventually 40-30.

I also didn't saw, during the entire AO, ONE inside out winner at someone's second service. He used to do that quite a lot. He level really dropped in some matches, like vs Tipsarevic, Blake and DJokovic, but thats only my opinion. The only match that COUNTS that he really played well, to me, was against Berdych. Hartfield and Santoro don't count.

Freeze17171
01-25-2008, 11:39 AM
Roger's serve was fine, his forehand was well below his usual standards.

Bibberz
01-25-2008, 11:40 AM
He does have a pretty young players' box. His parents are probably in their early '40s, one of brother is in his teens, and the other brother in his in "tweens." Their relative youth and Nole's tendency to whip them into a frenzy easily accounts for their "fits." Like you, I prefer a more decorous approach, but then I also get tired of looking at Mirka and Uncle Toni.


It's not so much that as the constant standing up and throwing fits in the player's box whenever he hits a winner.

But hey, they're different and they're supporting him - I can't really fault it, I just personally prefer a more decorous approach from the player's box.

Magical Trevor
01-25-2008, 11:40 AM
Fed played pretty poorly there, didn't attack at all.

Full credit to Novak, I thought he'd choke in the breaker, but he came up with the goods. Serving was incredible. Good luck to him in the final, though I'll probs be gunning for Tsonga.

~*BGT*~
01-25-2008, 11:40 AM
You know it's big news when they mention it on... CNN. :eek:

SwiSha
01-25-2008, 11:41 AM
..says the guy with that signature.

lmao what is wrong with

value money over bitches ?

i suppose u dont know LIl Wayne moron??

vincayou
01-25-2008, 11:41 AM
Arf, I could see it coming. Novak was closer and closer, it was bound to happen. :sad:

Now we will read how Fed is doomed and won't win a slam again. I'm sure he'll win other ones but not 3 each year any more. His domination is over, but it was the longest in the history of tennis at this intensity. :worship:

Now, there is hope for Tsonga. :) Hopefully, Novak will believe he's there yet. Pressure is on him.

*Ljubica*
01-25-2008, 11:42 AM
it's great to have a new champ, but not so great if it's nole. If he becomes #1, we'll never hear the end of it from him and his family.

I happen to like Nole :shrug: And his family! I've met them all many times and they're really nice people. Guess we all have different views and tastes - that's what makes life interesting :)

Commander Data
01-25-2008, 11:43 AM
Djokovic: Well deserved victory for Nole. he had the shoots to take it to Federer. Stayed very calm when Federer started to get better and served great. The better Player won. He really played like a champ today. beating Federer in straight sets with announcement that hasn't been done before.:hatoff: Hope he get his first Slam.

Federer: Was it just me or did he look tired? Seemed a bit slowe. I missed his agression. His fire seems a bit gone. He looked burnt out to me. I really think something has happened today. He thinks Feds total reign is over. It is no wonder really sooner or later he had to come down a bit. And today is the day. It is not the end of world really. maybe that takes some pressure of his shoulder for the French? I think the old Federer will come back but only for shorter time periods.

Federer and Nadal should book some safari together! Have vacation for 2 months get new energy. return with fresh body and mind with Joy and Fire. .

RagingLamb
01-25-2008, 11:43 AM
Arf, I could see it coming. Novak was closer and closer, it was bound to happen. :sad:

Now we will read how Fed is doomed and won't win a slam again. I'm sure he'll win other ones but not 3 each year any more. His domination is over, but it was the longest in the history of tennis at this intensity. :worship:

Now, there is hope for Tsonga. :) Hopefully, Novak will believe he's there yet. Pressure is on him.

He could still win 3 this year. could

aeronatasha
01-25-2008, 11:43 AM
I think Novak had 50 winners, now that's good stuff.:worship:

I still cannot believe what happened..

RonE
01-25-2008, 11:43 AM
Fakervic was too good :worship:, although Federer had huge chances to win the first and the third set, when served for the first he made two or three fh ue but in the last set the faker saved both set points , one with a huge wide serve and the other with a huge serve and fh cc winner combo.


its good for once Federer is not in a slam final :o

The match pretty mucfh went the way I expected it to TBH. Even when Fed was up in the first set serving for the set at 5-4 there was always a feeling he was too hot and cold while Novak was just consistent and intense all the time. You also just knew when he was down those set points in the third set at 5-6 that he would crank it up a couple of notches and Fed was being more passive on those type of points.

It was rather similair to the U.S. Open final- the difference being that Nole was overawed by the occassion at the time, but now having learned from that experience he did not make the same mistake twice.

Federer really does not play a match these days with as much authority as he used to and as much decisiveness on the big points- that has really been the difference and you can trace this slow downward spiral for Fed around this time last year just after the AO. Mind you, the matchup with Nole is such that Nole does not enable Roger to play the game he likes to play a lot of the time. That is why the extra gear and authority on the crucial points is that much more important when these two play and Novak clearly had the edge in that department today.

I do agree that it is good for Roger to lose a few matches like this since it puts things in perspective- I really feel he has been resting on his laurels too much and he needs some new direction in his game.

As for Novak, he really is turning out to be the real deal and is improving in leaps and bounds. Should be an interesting final against Tsonga. Shame I won't be able to see it :rolleyes:

JediFed
01-25-2008, 11:44 AM
Roger's serve was fine, his forehand was well below his usual standards.


What match were you watching? :confused:

His serve was terrible most of the match.

LOB
01-25-2008, 11:45 AM
Fed converted something like 2-15 bps against Nole. Not good enough.

2/9 actually.

Shabazza
01-25-2008, 11:45 AM
Congrats to Nole :worship: He played well and deserved to win. Roger :awww: :hug: And much as I like and respect Roger, I actually think it's great for the game to have two different names in a Grand Slam final and, whoever wins, there will be a new, first-time Grand Slam winner. It's great :)

Yeah, my thoughts exactly, but it still hurts. He had chances in the first and 3rd but didn't take them. I'd rather wish he would've taken a straight set demolition a la Nadal. This reminds a bit of Safin in AO 05 - needed a few month to get over it...

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 11:45 AM
Dreadful match, he have Nole sets 1 and 3 through unbelievably bad mental woes that have been in his game for a while

yeah the tards will say this is an excuse or something, but they know it themselves

Federer just not up for it these last 2 weeks and its baffling why

if this is what he needs to meet the challenge again - then today will work for him.. in the long run :o

now ppl can rejoice - tennis is not about Fed-Nadal finals all the time bla bla :zzz: :ras:

Marek.
01-25-2008, 11:45 AM
He could still win 3 this year. could

I'll pay the next 10 posters $20 if that happens. :lol: :p

scoobs
01-25-2008, 11:45 AM
Federer's forehand is much more attackable these days. You play to his backhand a bit then go hard and fast out wide to his forehand and you get errors time and time again. He's slower and with less feel defensively on that stretch from that side than he has had in the past and it nearly cost him against Tipsarevic and it certainly cost him here.

The Serbian boys have done their homework.

Bruno71
01-25-2008, 11:46 AM
10 aces, 60% 1st serve. Most of the players on tour would kill to have serve like that. :bolt:

The serve improved a lot in the 3rd. It was pretty bad in the 1st 2 sets. And that can really wreak havoc with a player's confidence. He did adjust, frankly, I think he had Nole in that 3rd set but choked it away. Who knew :lol: ?

t0x
01-25-2008, 11:47 AM
Hopefully Fed realize you can't take 6 weeks off and go right into a slam, mentally, he's sucked all 2 weeks.

He breaks serve only to get broken right back, he's getting angry more easily and just doesn't look match fit. Also his game, his groundshots just haven't made the grade - at times they're brilliant, but they're just not consistant anymore.

Fed does seem to have a pretty full calendar the rest of the year, which is a good sign. But he better make sure he plays Doha next year.

Djoko played well... no choking this time, and he could go toe to toe with Fed FH to FH it seemed! Well done to him!

thesupreme
01-25-2008, 11:47 AM
I'll pay the next 10 posters $20 if that happens. :lol: :p


C'mon Federer, make me some money!!

Klaas_nalbandian
01-25-2008, 11:48 AM
great to see that there are at least 3 guys who give fed a hard time on different surfaces, nole nalby and rafa

Difficult to pick a fav for me in the final, like them both, but I guess nole 'deserves' it more looking at the past performances. but then again jo was injuried for long periods

A grandslam winner in Rotterdam:)

BlakeJamitis
01-25-2008, 11:48 AM
Now, tennis gets wayyyyyy interesting

Jogy
01-25-2008, 11:49 AM
Fuck Yeah!!!!!!!

I also most forgotten how Federer sucks and how much I like to loose this jerk until I gotten home from work, swtiched on TV and saw his ass being gunned out like in the best dreams of any Federer hater

and the funny thing is Djokovic did not even play well


Federer's luck is runned out, his opponents have hawk eye to get the correct calls Federer got in the past to his favour becasue the umpires had not guts to rule against world no1
the net is against Federer
the young players grow experience and don't choke that much anymore like before against Federer, even world no40 or so, Tipsarevic could take Federer into five :haha:


Glad Federer lost... :woohoo: :woohoo: :haha:

my0118
01-25-2008, 11:49 AM
Federer's forehand is much more attackable these days. You play to his backhand a bit then go hard and fast out wide to his forehand and you get errors time and time again. He's slower and with less feel defensively on that stretch from that side than he has had in the past and it nearly cost him against Tipsarevic and it certainly cost him here.

The Serbian boys have done their homework.

Yeah that's what I thought. His forehand looked really tentative, let alone made lots of errors.

Tennistunes
01-25-2008, 11:50 AM
There are a lot of similarities with Federer's 2005 semifinal loss to Marat Safin...see below the excerpt from The Roger Federer Story, Quest for Perfection book that outlines that loss. Sounds familiar, eh?

En route to the semifinals, Federer did not lose a set, including a dominat¬ing 6-3, 6-4, 6-4 win over four-time Australian Open Andre Agassi in the quarterfinals. Marat Safin—and his coach Peter Lundgren—awaited Federer in the semifinals. Just like their second-set tie-break in Houston, their semifinal match became an epic and turned into the match of the year. Federer led two sets to one and by 5-2 in the fourth-set tie-break and had Safin in a virtual stranglehold. Federer held a match point at 6-5 and rushed the net, only to see Safin counter with a superb lob over his head. In his confident manner, Federer attempted an aggressive and risky between-the-legs retrieval of the lob, only to have his trick shot land in the net. Two points later, Safin won the fourth-set tie-break to even the match at two sets apiece. Before the start of the fifth set, Federer’s foot was worked on by the medical staff, but the con¬clusion of the match was still a long way from being determined. Unlike the US Open, where a tie-break is played in the fifth set, the Australian Open, as well as the other two Grand Slam tournaments, play out a deciding set until one player wins by two games. Federer and Safin duked it out in a fifth set for another 80 minutes—almost as long as a full soccer game—before the winner was determined. After four hours and 28 minutes, the result was a bitter pill for Federer as Safin finally broke through on his seventh match point to regis¬ter the shocking and unexpected 5-7, 6-4, 5-7, 7-6 (6), 9-7 upset victory.
In the wee hours of the morning, after Australian fans sang “Happy Birthday” to Safin who was minutes into his 25th birthday, Federer faced the fact that many of his winning streaks ended. His 26-match winning streak—his personal best—ended as well as his 24-match win streak against top 10 players. For the first time since Madrid in 2003, he lost a tournament after reaching the semifinals. His attempt to become the first player since Pete Sampras in 1993/1994 to win three consecutive Grand Slam tournaments also came up short.
Nonetheless, Federer seemed composed when he showed up at 1:30 in the morning for his post-match press conference. “I can only blame myself,” he said. “I gave it my best. It was a good fight between two good men and in the end, the best man won.” He did not mention that he entered the match with a painful left foot that became worse as the match progressed. In trying to favor the foot, he put extra stress on his back. In the fourth set, when he could have closed out the match, a pinched nerve radiated pain to his pointer finger, which adversely affected his forehand.
The loss dented Federer’s armor. His point total in the world rankings sank by 550 and his advantage over the No. 2-ranked Lleyton Hewitt dropped as much as 1,000 points. His lead was still equivalent to two Grand Slam titles—but the year was still young and many things could happen. Although Federer achieved his second-best result ever at the Australian Open and nar¬rowly missed reaching the final, fundamental questions were being asked. Was Tony Roche the wrong man for the job as coach? Could Marat Safin, who won the title, threaten Roger and take his spot as world No. 1? Had Roger lost the aura of invincibility?

Bingerz
01-25-2008, 11:51 AM
Congrats to Novak, i hope this will stun Federer into action... i dont think he has been playing anywhere near his potential for a couple of years now

Stephan
01-25-2008, 11:51 AM
Roger...

BalkanBoy
01-25-2008, 11:51 AM
Nole You Did It Again !!! Nice Revenge From Us Open !!! No More Than 3 Sets Needed Congratsssssss!!! You Save Me Sleep Time !!!

BlakeJamitis
01-25-2008, 11:52 AM
Can someone explain this to me. Why is Federer so bad now on 2nd serves. He gets no free points off 2nd serves. He just slices them back to start the rally. He takes no chances and has no aggression on 2nd serves. He lets everyone off the hook with 2nd serves. He deserved to lose this match.

CONGRATS NOVAK!!!

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 11:52 AM
You know it's big news when they mention it on... CNN. :eek:

Did CNN mention when Roddick lost Wimbledon 2003 semi-finals to Federer?

Maya_4
01-25-2008, 11:52 AM
:bowdown:NOLE:hearts:He is going to win AO!:worship:Respect for Tsonga but I dont think that he has any chance,it's his first final ever and he is going to choke like Djokovic at US Open!AJDE SERBIA!
AJDE ANA :worship:
AJDE NOLE:worship:

RogerFan82
01-25-2008, 11:53 AM
Congrats to Novak, i hope this will stun Federer into action... i dont think he has been playing anywhere near his potential for a couple of years now

you make a great point. Fed needs this defeat. I hope he works harder and I'm sure he'll be back.

dino
01-25-2008, 11:54 AM
The better man wins today and it's just not Roger. Clearly, he is not at his best today. Way too many unforced errors and especially on the forehand side.

All these talk about his reign coming to an end is strange. IMO, I think he has achieved so much in his career at 26 is amazing and something everybody should admire. Even if his reign diminishes at some point in time, he is STILL an amazing young man and a great tennis player.

optimism
01-25-2008, 11:54 AM
Djokovic: Well deserved victory for Nole. he had the shoots to take it to Federer. Stayed very calm when Federer started to get better and served great. The better Player won. He really played like a champ today. beating Federer in straight sets with announcement that hasn't been done before.:hatoff: Hope he get his first Slam.

Federer: Was it just me or did he look tired? Seemed a bit slowe. I missed his agression. His fire seems a bit gone. He looked burnt out to me. I really think something has happened today. He thinks Feds total reign is over. It is no wonder really sooner or later he had to come down a bit. And today is the day. It is not the end of world really. maybe that takes some pressure of his shoulder for the French? I think the old Federer will come back but only for shorter time periods.

Federer and Nadal should book some safari together! Have vacation for 2 months get new energy. return with fresh body and mind with Joy and Fire. .

serving for the first set and blowing it with errors, i was prepared for a loss. he was aggressive at the beginning, but his forehand let him down so he became defensive. the strangest thing was that he had no positive energy tonight. the first c'mon came so late and sounded so sad and low. his anticipation was not there, was always a tab slower. Nole had his head down when he was down a break in the first set, and federer had to give him the momentum with those errors.

federer showed no fighting spirit till it was too late. it was almost like he walked in the match thinking he was gonna lose.

as much as i dislike nole, he's such an excellent player. he just doesn't have any hole in his game. congradulations to those rational nole fans. but gosh some of his nationalists are so annoying, so much so in the same way as his parents.

shaggy
01-25-2008, 11:54 AM
SVAKA ČAST MAJSTORE!
as I said nole on hard = nadal on clay. so, that is the end of federer domination. federer played almost perfect third set and all the same he losti it. don't need any further comment.

Bibberz
01-25-2008, 11:56 AM
Count me in. I got $10 from Kuhne, so I'm willing to believe this.

I'll pay the next 10 posters $20 if that happens. :lol: :p

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 11:56 AM
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the young players grow experience and don't choke that much anymore like before against Federer


all young players apart from Murray, Gasquet and now Tsonga are not very interesting

Mechlan
01-25-2008, 11:58 AM
Novak read Federer's serve very well today. That coupled with his own serving display and overall steadiness was more than enough to get the job done.

Roger obviously still capable of playing at a very high level but he's not the player of 2005-2006 and his weaknesses are more apparent now. His serve is a much more critical part of his game and his defense was clearly inferior to Djokovic's today. Without the serve and consistency off the ground, there was really no doubt who the winner would be midway through the match.

Roger really needs to go back to work on his strokes. I'm not sure if there's too much he can do about his defensive abilities as he gets older, but he's still the most talented ballstriker on tour and he'll need it against the youngsters who will keep moving him around and exploiting the backhand. This could be a very long season for Roger unless he improves upon his game. On the other hand, it makes for a very exciting season as well. Looking forward to it...

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 11:59 AM
SVAKA ?AST MAJSTORE!
as I said nole on hard = nadal on clay. so, that is the end of federer domination. federer played almost perfect third set and all the same he losti it. don't need any further comment.

But Djokovic essentialy showed nothing more than consistency...

vidanhv
01-25-2008, 11:59 AM
I can't understand this obsession about Fed's poor performance. Its just not truth! With this level, he would crush anyone on the tour. 32-32 unforced errors shows that he was not missing so much. Lack of the winners is just showing that Nole didn't give him to win. This is very simple. We were all waiting some real competition out there, and when we finally get it, we are judging Fed that he doesn't play good anymore. Nole is simply TOP 3 player, why is it so difficult to believe that No. 3 can outplay No. 1? Only because it didn't happen for a long time?

Exodus
01-25-2008, 12:00 PM
however joker will not win AO

ZakMcCrack
01-25-2008, 12:00 PM
Fuck Yeah!!!!!!!

I also most forgotten how Federer sucks and how much I like to loose this jerk until I gotten home from work, swtiched on TV and saw his ass being gunned out like in the best dreams of any Federer hater

and the funny thing is Djokovic did not even play well


Federer's luck is runned out, his opponents have hawk eye to get the correct calls Federer got in the past to his favour becasue the umpires had not guts to rule against world no1
the net is against Federer
the young players grow experience and don't choke that much anymore like before against Federer, even world no40 or so, Tipsarevic could take Federer into five :haha:


Glad Federer lost... :woohoo: :woohoo: :haha:
...and out of his den came the goblin...once again...
You are such a freaking moron....why do you have to put it out in such a bad, disgusting and disrespectful way - no class act, dude - go home and learn how to act. Some of your points, well most of 'em, are just ridiculous...People who derive their "happiness" from the misfortune of other's are...the true Losers!

Marek.
01-25-2008, 12:01 PM
Count me in. I got $10 from Kuhne, so I'm willing to believe this.

I'm very confident I'll be keeping my money.

aeronatasha
01-25-2008, 12:01 PM
Could someone please upload on court interview, I didn't get to hear it.
Thanks guys!:wavey:

Rogiman
01-25-2008, 12:02 PM
Novak! :clap2:

Federer was reluctant throught the tournament to get himself involved in long rallies and this matchup was always going to be a nightmare for him.

The two best players in the tournament will meet in the final, and on sunday we will finally have a new GS champion! :woohoo:

optimism
01-25-2008, 12:02 PM
you make a great point. Fed needs this defeat. I hope he works harder and I'm sure he'll be back.

in one of his latest interviews he said that he used to study opponents' game, to which side they are gonna serve, which side has a weakness, etc. but now he just focuses on his own game. (forgot the exact words.) I remember I was thinking that was just too much confidence. he really needs a wakeup call. he gets away with poor play so many times that it gives him a false sense of security.

ReturnWinner
01-25-2008, 12:02 PM
Federer did not play bad, its always the same story when a player outplays another,the loser looks bad due the play of the winner :o

Daniel
01-25-2008, 12:03 PM
Roger wtf happened?

:sad: :sad: :sad:

Bilbo
01-25-2008, 12:03 PM
Djokovic the real deal :eek:

from now Federer will have a very rough time to win another Grand Slam title apart from Wimbledon.

congrats to Djokovic to his 1st Grand Slam title

Kermit
01-25-2008, 12:04 PM
Congrats Novak :clap2:

Jogy
01-25-2008, 12:05 PM
...and out of his den came the goblin...once again...
You are such a freaking moron....why do you have to put it out in such a bad, disgusting and disrespectful way - no class act, dude - go home and learn how to act. Some of your points, well most of 'em, are just ridiculous...People who derive their "happiness" from the misfortune of other's are...the true Losers!
don't act like you are the best here or did you never cheer against Nadal or any other players
just read other things when other player lose, my post is harmless :)

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 12:06 PM
you make a great point. Fed needs this defeat. I hope he works harder and I'm sure he'll be back.Sampras got straighted many times at GS's in his peak and came back to win the big ones, Fed will as well. :shrug:

Denaon
01-25-2008, 12:06 PM
WTG NovaK!! :banana:

Sleepwalker64
01-25-2008, 12:07 PM
Too good :worship:
But it's not over. Let's make history Novak!!
Tsonga scares me. I have never seen something like his performance vs. Nadal.

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 12:08 PM
Novak read Federer's serve very well today. That coupled with his own serving display and overall steadiness was more than enough to get the job done.

Roger obviously still capable of playing at a very high level but he's not the player of 2005-2006 and his weaknesses are more apparent now. His serve is a much more critical part of his game and his defense was clearly inferior to Djokovic's today. Without the serve and consistency off the ground, there was really no doubt who the winner would be midway through the match.

Roger really needs to go back to work on his strokes. I'm not sure if there's too much he can do about his defensive abilities as he gets older, but he's still the most talented ballstriker on tour and he'll need it against the youngsters who will keep moving him around and exploiting the backhand. This could be a very long season for Roger unless he improves upon his game. On the other hand, it makes for a very exciting season as well. Looking forward to it...

Right. Courts are overall getting far too slow for Federer. He needs faster courts to aply his game. If ATP doesn't speed up the courts Federer will not be able to grind it out anymore against young players
Fitness and gritt will completely dominate skill and class

Rogiman
01-25-2008, 12:08 PM
Roger wtf happened?

:sad: :sad: :sad:He was outplayed :rolleyes:

tripb19
01-25-2008, 12:09 PM
ROFL at Djokotards claiming Federer played well. Your man won fair and square. The two facts can coexist.

JediFed
01-25-2008, 12:09 PM
Which is why he did better at the AO last year when the courts were slower?

Not sure I buy that assessment.

VamosRafael
01-25-2008, 12:14 PM
Ajde Nole. Fucking outstanding performance. Please win the final.

Vanjezi
01-25-2008, 12:16 PM
What match were you watching? :confused:

His serve was terrible most of the match.

What are you bullshitting??

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/bios/stats/atpf324.html

Andi-M
01-25-2008, 12:17 PM
Expected result. But scoreline is more routine than i would have thought.

Phenomenal soo pleased!!!

Djokovic is the real deal i cant wait for him to win...although i love tsonga too so im happy. :)

ZakMcCrack
01-25-2008, 12:18 PM
Well, I almost certainly never make such silly comments full of malicious-joy as you just did - you know, I've got a hard enough time cheering FOR players, cheering AGAINST would be way to exhausting...and even though I am a die-hard Fan of Federer I never lose the respect for his opponent...but still, Novak is probably one the players I like the least, I admit.

Commander Data
01-25-2008, 12:26 PM
serving for the first set and blowing it with errors, i was prepared for a loss. he was aggressive at the beginning, but his forehand let him down so he became defensive. the strangest thing was that he had no positive energy tonight. the first c'mon came so late and sounded so sad and low. his anticipation was not there, was always a tab slower. Nole had his head down when he was down a break in the first set, and federer had to give him the momentum with those errors.

federer showed no fighting spirit till it was too late. it was almost like he walked in the match thinking he was gonna lose.

as much as i dislike nole, he's such an excellent player. he just doesn't have any hole in his game. congradulations to those rational nole fans. but gosh some of his nationalists are so annoying, so much so in the same way as his parents.

I agree. It is good Fed lost cause he got more and more passiv since about a year. IMO the only reason he didn't lose imoportant matches earlier is his enorm talent. Almost saved him again today. was break up in the first and had set points in the 3rd. As soon has he starts to attack he gets the upper hand. But when he lacks intentness he is in trouble. Already thought that at the French last year. he needs more killer instinct. He seems fragile lately. Every shot he makes you hope he doesn't break down. he also looks pretty skinny to me.

Get a proper coach and stop thinking about history Roger!

tennisgal_001
01-25-2008, 12:26 PM
What I don't understand is why Federer waited to go down a set and a double-break to finally start hitting the ball well and mix up his game a little bit. Until then, he took a "safe" approach and waited for Djokovic to choke/miss/hand it to him. Instead of being aggressive and proactive, he chose to sit back and react to whatever Djokovic was giving him. And Djokovic was serving brilliantly, hitting excellent groundstrokes, and making good use of his backhand down the line. Federer allowed Djokovic to dictate pace and for almost two sets looked like he didn't care much. It's very uncharacteristic of him and probably the most frustrating aspect about his loss.

asher_langley
01-25-2008, 12:28 PM
Finally, a GS Final without Federer! No offense, but it IS refreshing. : ) For now, it's Nole on hardcourt, Nadal on clay...any takers for grass? : :

I do wonder how he will get back for RG, considering hardcourts may be getting slower, what more on clay? This might get interesting...

A_Skywalker
01-25-2008, 12:30 PM
Fed interview

Q. Do you think he'll go on and win the final now?

ROGER FEDERER: I don't care really.


Q. Can you measure his improvement at all? Has he improved that much?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I think he's played pretty much the same, you know, for the last let's say nine months or so, or last year. He's had a good start to the year, as well.

Commander Data
01-25-2008, 12:30 PM
I can't understand this obsession about Fed's poor performance. Its just not truth! With this level, he would crush anyone on the tour. 32-32 unforced errors shows that he was not missing so much. Lack of the winners is just showing that Nole didn't give him to win. This is very simple. We were all waiting some real competition out there, and when we finally get it, we are judging Fed that he doesn't play good anymore. Nole is simply TOP 3 player, why is it so difficult to believe that No. 3 can outplay No. 1? Only because it didn't happen for a long time?

C'mon he was serving for the first set and just gave it away and what was in the 2nd. Surely not vintage Federer

JediFed
01-25-2008, 12:31 PM
What are you bullshitting??


I watched the whole match, not just the 3rd.

His serve was terrible.

Yes, he finally found it in the third, but for most of the match his serve was not helping him get to where he needed to be.

ugotlobbed
01-25-2008, 12:33 PM
i actually agree that djokovic is playing the same, he was just on fire today, so what if roger doesnt care, why do ppl down him if he doesnt, if he does why does that make him a better person

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 12:33 PM
Fed interview

Q. Can you measure his improvement at all? Has he improved that much?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I think he's played pretty much the same, you know, for the last let's say nine months or so, or last year. He's had a good start to the year, as well.

I think Djokovic is better at the net than he was before. Strange Federer doesn't think so

ugotlobbed
01-25-2008, 12:33 PM
I watched the whole match, not just the 3rd.

His serve was terrible.

Yes, he finally found it in the third, but for most of the match his serve was not helping him get to where he needed to be.

yea his serve wasnt at its best, but i think his ground game today was just weak, usually his other parts make up for his bad serving

Riley_K
01-25-2008, 12:34 PM
:woohoo: Awesome!!!

:bowdown: Nole :worship:

Okonsky
01-25-2008, 12:35 PM
Fed interview

Q. Do you think he'll go on and win the final now?

ROGER FEDERER: I don't care really.


Q. Can you measure his improvement at all? Has he improved that much?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I think he's played pretty much the same, you know, for the last let's say nine months or so, or last year. He's had a good start to the year, as well.

Poor thing. Novak was wayyyyyy too better. It is a fact. Most of you can deny Novak's improvement, takling about Feds virus....not working. Hate exuses. Be a man, admit whose better now.

Poor Federer.

bluesky_rachel
01-25-2008, 12:35 PM
Nole played a good match and was fun as always.Congrats!!!!:worship:
I'm glad there will be a new champion,which is a good thing for tennis.

scoobs
01-25-2008, 12:35 PM
Fed interview

Q. Do you think he'll go on and win the final now?

ROGER FEDERER: I don't care really.


Q. Can you measure his improvement at all? Has he improved that much?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I think he's played pretty much the same, you know, for the last let's say nine months or so, or last year. He's had a good start to the year, as well.
Bit graceless from Federer.

Not Serena-esque but still not giving much respect.

Djokovic has improved many aspects of his game.

gillian
01-25-2008, 12:39 PM
Wow! Haven't seen the match, but hope to see highlights.

Djokovic has come with the goods at this tournament so all credit to him. He deserves kudos for withstanding the pressure of the occasion.

Of course, as a Fed fan, I'm disappointed. But on the bright side, I can watch the final without caring who wins. Heck, I might even set my alarm and get up to see it.

aulus
01-25-2008, 12:40 PM
I can't understand this obsession about Fed's poor performance. Its just not truth! With this level, he would crush anyone on the tour. 32-32 unforced errors shows that he was not missing so much. Lack of the winners is just showing that Nole didn't give him to win. This is very simple. We were all waiting some real competition out there, and when we finally get it, we are judging Fed that he doesn't play good anymore. Nole is simply TOP 3 player, why is it so difficult to believe that No. 3 can outplay No. 1? Only because it didn't happen for a long time?

i can't entirely agree. djokovic clearly outplayed federer in every aspect, and deserved to win and federer deserved to lose.

federer has been passive off the ground for almost 1 year. it's very clear when you compare his matches from TMC 03 to AO 07, that his FH (his greatest weapon, and the reason he won 10 majors (he won wimbledon 07 and USO 07 with his serve)) is much different. he plays it much safer, farther from the lines, and with more spin and less depth.
this level of competition has always been there, federer is just worse than he used to be.

he's only kept his dominance since march of last year b/c of his serve, intelligence, movement and his ability to raise his level when challenged. his groundstrokes are much worse.

guga2120
01-25-2008, 12:42 PM
Congrats to Novak, Federer is a great player, but him winning everything in sight has got old. This is a good thing for tennis.

tennisgal_001
01-25-2008, 12:44 PM
ALSO from Federer's interview:

"But I think he made the more important points today. It was a bit unfortunate for me, but he did play well and served really well when he had to."

"You know, I like to give credit to my opponent, as well. I don't want to blame it too much on my own play. He came up with the shots at the right time, and that's all I can say really."

"It was fantastic, you know. He did play great."

azinna
01-25-2008, 12:44 PM
Actually, Nole should have downed Federer at the USO final last year. He handled the nerves much better this time around, notably during a semifinal instead.

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 12:45 PM
i can't entirely agree. djokovic clearly outplayed federer in every aspect, and deserved to win and federer deserved to lose.

federer has been passive off the ground for almost 1 year. it's very clear when you compare his matches from TMC 03 to AO 07, that his FH (his greatest weapon, and the reason he won 10 majors (he won wimbledon 07 and USO 07 with his serve)) is much different. he plays it much safer, farther from the lines, and with more spin and less depth.
this level of competition has always been there, federer is just worse than he used to be.

he's only kept his dominance since march of last year b/c of his serve, intelligence, movement and his ability to raise his level when challenged. his groundstrokes are much worse.

true, but you have to remember that courts are much slower these days. More risky shots don't pay off anymore... Federer had to accomodate, that is why he is playing safer

Unfortunately class and skill are currently not apreciated as they were, it's more ordinary game that is stimulated

aeronatasha
01-25-2008, 12:46 PM
Here's the whole interview:

Q. What made the difference, Roger?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, it was a tough match, I thought. You know, a lot of ups and downs, like the usual matches we have actually against each other. It always comes and goes.

But I think he made the more important points today. It was a bit unfortunate for me, but he did play well and served really well when he had to.


Q. He played very well, obviously. But do you think your standard was as high as it always has been?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, look, I told you, it depends a lot on day form. You can't always, you know, play your best or, you know, the opponent doesn't always play the same way either.

There's no doubt I've played better in my life. That's for sure, you know. I've not been really serving like the way I wanted to, you know, maybe the last few matches. But maybe served too many aces against Tipsarevic, so I didn't have any more left (smiling).

Look, it happens. But he covered the court well. He didn't give me much. So that obviously played a role in the way I played tonight. But, you know, I wasn't completely satisfied.


Q. Was it more difficult playing him in the semifinal than in the final?

ROGER FEDERER: First round or finals, it doesn't really matter, to be honest. I have no preference or whatever. But he's come through the draw convincingly. He's been playing very solid. He had a tough draw, you know, if I compare it to maybe Rafa's. So he absolutely deserves to be in the final.


Q. Do you think he'll go on and win the final now?

ROGER FEDERER: I don't care really.


Q. Do you feel you were moving as well as you usually do?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I don't. I didn't think I was moving that great, you know. I think I played really well the first two matches, you know, in terms of movement also. You know, I don't know if the surface got a bit quicker.

I definitely wasn't as good on the defensive like I usually am. I couldn't come up with the passing shot when I needed to. Yeah, that definitely hurt me, especially today.


Q. Do you put it down to anything tonight, or is it just one of those nights, as you say?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I mean, look, I've had 15 minutes to reflect on the match, so I can't tell you much yet.

But there's some sort of a disappointment. But, you know, from the spirit, the way I fought, the way I tried, it's all I could give, you know. When you give a hundred percent, you know, you're sort of happy with your performance. It can't always go your way. I know that.

I've won, many, many times when I didn't expect myself to win. So tonight's one of those nights where you're a little bit disappointed. But it's going to go over and I'm going to look forward to the rest of the year.


Q. Can you measure his improvement at all? Has he improved that much?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I think he's played pretty much the same, you know, for the last let's say nine months or so, or last year. He's had a good start to the year, as well.

Yeah, it comes down to a few points here and there. That's what I told you beforehand, so that's what happened today.


Q. You were one break up in the first set. That was probably the moment when you should have...

ROGER FEDERER: Well, we all know if I would have served it out the match would have been a bit different. Sure, he could have come back and still beaten me, but circumstances of would have been different. He wouldn't have played that freely in the second set. He usually doesn't play that well.

That was unfortunate for me. You know, I paid the price twice, not only losing the set, but also the second set. You know, I missed many opportunities the third set.

But, like I said, he came up with some great shots, some great serves, and, you know, saved himself that way.


Q. Do you look back now and think about the preparation a couple weeks ago and the illness? Was that having a lingering effect at all on your game throughout this tournament?

ROGER FEDERER: Look, I don't know, seriously. I'll definitely reflect on what happened. You know, I mean, considering, you know, my illness, I'm sort of happy with the result here.

Of course, I've created a monster, so I know I need to always win every tournament. But semis is still, you know, pretty good. But, yeah, I'll analyze and see if I have to make changes for next year. But, honestly, I think I did play pretty good.

I didn't play my best throughout the championships, but it was pretty solid, so it was okay.


Q. You don't really feel like you've created a monster, do you?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, some sort of, yeah.


Q. Can you elaborate on that?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, winning every other week, you know, lose a set and people say I'm playing bad. So it's my own mistake, I guess.


Q. Do you need to be able to shut that out more?

ROGER FEDERER: Not at all, no. I got used to it by now.


Q. Justine said after her loss to Sharapova that she suffered from the pressure of being unbeatable for such a long time and people always expecting her to win. Is that something you sometimes experience?

ROGER FEDERER: I experienced it maybe going into Indian Wells last year. I think it was an incredible streak then, 40 something wins. Everybody was talking about the Vilas streak.

I don't know if that put me under pressure. But it's not easy coming out every week for sure trying to win. But you'll always run into fellow top 10 players or other guys who are on a streak or on a hot run or surprise you. That's the difficulty about tennis, you know.

I've had it for a long, long time, you know. I've had to deal with all sort of different streaks. I didn't feel particular pressure at all tonight, no.


Q. Do you think if you were a little slower than usual, as you say, it could be because of the virus you had or the preparation coming in?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, obviously the approach has been unique this year, you know. It's the first time I've been ill before a Grand Slam. I would still rather have it before than during, that's for sure.

But maybe it did have. I answered the question already before. It might have had an effect on my movement, I don't know. But I definitely didn't feel as quick, you know, as some other times. I practiced really hard. I can't practice much harder in the off‑season, you know, so I did everything the right way. And maybe I did pay the price for being a little bit ill.

You know, I like to give credit to my opponent, as well. I don't want to blame it too much on my own play. He came up with the shots at the right time, and that's all I can say really.


Q. Will you watch the final?

ROGER FEDERER: I don't know if I'm here, so we'll see.


Q. If you're away, will you try and find it on a television station somewhere?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I won't.


Q. Did you feel during the match that there might be a moment you would seize control, or did you always feel you were playing catch‑up after the first set?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, like I said, the second set he started just unloading. You know, that's not usually what he does. He can, obviously, and play aggressive. But, you know, not on every shot. The way he played, he picked up every serve.

It was fantastic, you know. He did play great.

Like I said, it cost me the match, maybe not serving it out the first set. That's what happens sometimes when you don't take your chances early on: you'll pay the price later on. That's what happened for me against Tipsarevic almost. I just got out of that one.

Definitely didn't play my best on big points. That's been sort of something that's stuck with me throughout the championships maybe. But, look, it happens. I've done it so many times it went my way. It's okay. Unfortunately it goes the other way, too, sometimes.

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2008-01-25/200801251201262265115.html

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 12:48 PM
Bit graceless from Federer.

Not Serena-esque but still not giving much respect.

Djokovic has improved many aspects of his game.He's hurting, which is a good thing IMO

no way should he go out his way to talk up Nole either after the comments that come out his mouth.

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 12:49 PM
. Do you feel you were moving as well as you usually do?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I don't. I didn't think I was moving that great, you know. I think I played really well the first two matches, you know, in terms of movement also. You know, I don't know if the surface got a bit quicker.

I definitely wasn't as good on the defensive like I usually am. I couldn't come up with the passing shot when I needed to. Yeah, that definitely hurt me, especially today. Exactly!

nemanjam
01-25-2008, 12:50 PM
Nole thank you for this victory

Bravoooooooooooooooo

JediFed
01-25-2008, 12:51 PM
i can't entirely agree. djokovic clearly outplayed federer in every aspect, and deserved to win and federer deserved to lose.


I don't believe he raised his game. Federer's comment made sense. He's same nole he was at USO. Federer wasn't the same. Yes, Nole played well and was consistant throughout. But he didn't 'blow fed off the court'. We saw this in the third when Fed finally found his serve.

As for the groundies, he had way to many UFEs. Can't count how many times he would kill a rally on both sides by tossing it into the net.

As for Nole's volleys, they weren't that great. He played similar style to nadal, keep getting balls back until Fed made and UFE, but the difference is that Nole had a serve.

aeronatasha
01-25-2008, 12:52 PM
Oh please, Novak really hasn't said anything offensive to Federer prior to this match.

Nor do I think Federer was disrespectful. Of course he's disappointed, I can symphatize completely.

JustDoIt
01-25-2008, 12:53 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Come on Novak !!

scoobs
01-25-2008, 12:54 PM
He's hurting, which is a good thing IMO

no way should he go out his way to talk up Nole either after the comments that come out his mouth.
Hurting is one thing.

Not recognising when your opponent has improved massively is self-deluding.

Hola Mr. SK
01-25-2008, 12:55 PM
Straight sets victory!Nole is the man :yeah:
The guy's just on fire today,brilliant attack on both wings. That's more than enough to beat a rusty Fed. Seems Fed era is approaching the end. Hard to imagine the king will bounce back at RG.

TheBoiledEgg
01-25-2008, 12:56 PM
Roger's FH was pathetic
been watching Marat has he :help:

now its down to Baby Ali to put this joker in his place.

Baghdatis72
01-25-2008, 01:03 PM
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!!!!! !!

At last Federer crumbles to Novak's superiority :woohoo:

The better player won and thank God he didn't choke this time, sending Fed home to watch the final on TV :D

Now we'll have a great final to watch without Fed or Nadal in it :aparty:

aulus
01-25-2008, 01:05 PM
true, but you have to remember that courts are much slower these days. More risky shots don't pay off anymore... Federer had to accomodate, that is why he is playing safer

Unfortunately class and skill are currently not apreciated as they were, it's more ordinary game that is stimulated

that's part of it, but not particularly important, imo. USO in 07 was the same speed it was when federer dominated it with his FH. even at the last wimbledon federer played passively. even indoors federer doesn't play as aggressively.

his FH is a shadow of its former greatness.

Bascule
01-25-2008, 01:10 PM
So happy, I just can't believe. I was sure Roger would take at least one set.
Go fo it, Nole!

vidanhv
01-25-2008, 01:12 PM
He's hurting, which is a good thing IMO

no way should he go out his way to talk up Nole either after the comments that come out his mouth.
Are u saying that Nole ever offended Fed? Please, recollect my memory... Except if u r referring to his conviction that Fed is not invincible... That is not offensive... That is normal way to look at your opponent.

knight_ley
01-25-2008, 01:15 PM
:woohoo: I'm not a Djokovic fan but he's definately not on my sh*t list anymore! :lol: Great performance from Novak. :worship:

madmanfool
01-25-2008, 01:17 PM
easy v-cash

helgagonzalez
01-25-2008, 01:18 PM
:worship: Novak!!! Just amazing! :yeah:

Bascule
01-25-2008, 01:18 PM
Q. Do you think he'll go on and win the final now?

ROGER FEDERER: I don't care really.


Anyway, this is sincere, but also sounds rude maybe?

Dimonator133
01-25-2008, 01:18 PM
The Djoker, the Smoker, the Midnight Toker:worship:

aeronatasha
01-25-2008, 01:18 PM
Are u saying that Nole ever offended Fed? Please, recollect my memory... Except if u r referring to his conviction that Fed is not invincible... That is not offensive... That is normal way to look at your opponent.

My point exactly.:)

Naide
01-25-2008, 01:18 PM
Wow.

Baghdatis72
01-25-2008, 01:19 PM
This deserves a Friday night celebration :D :drink: :aparty:

thrust
01-25-2008, 01:20 PM
Great result for men^s tennis! I like both finalists, it should be a great one.

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 01:20 PM
Anyway, this is sincere, but also sounds rude maybe?

it's actualy what you usualy hear from players, it's not rude - you mind your own bussines