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Djokovic outguns Federer 7-5 6-3 7-6 (5) to reach AO 2008 Final

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Baghdatis72
01-25-2008, 12:21 PM
Great result for men^s tennis! I like both finalists, it should be a great one.

At last :yeah:

tennisgal_001
01-25-2008, 12:22 PM
Are u saying that Nole ever offended Fed? Please, recollect my memory... Except if u r referring to his conviction that Fed is not invincible... That is not offensive... That is normal way to look at your opponent.

AO 2007 in the fourth round. Federer vs. Djokovic.
Wasn't it Djokovic who said "Roger is going down" or something along those lines before he lost in straights? Give me some time to dig up the quote.

Bascule
01-25-2008, 12:22 PM
[QUOTE]
Q. Will you watch the final?

ROGER FEDERER: I don't know if I'm here, so we'll see.


Q. If you're away, will you try and find it on a television station somewhere?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I won't.
[QUOTE]

:rolleyes:

Voo de Mar
01-25-2008, 12:25 PM
Anyway, this is sincere, but also sounds rude maybe?

He said the same about watching the final. He lost and has the rest of the tournament in the ass. Yeah, sincere but also rude. But generally I prefer a sincere statement.

EDIT: I see you've given also the sentence about watching final in TV :)

~EMiLiTA~
01-25-2008, 12:26 PM
FINALLY A FINAL WITHOUT FEDERER AND/OR NADAL!!! So looking forward to it! Both guys have played so well this tournament, great for the sport!!!

krystlel
01-25-2008, 12:34 PM
Well done to Djokovic. Finally Federer's finals streak and GS title wins (off clay) has been broken. Djokovic played at a consistently high level and played a very tactically sound match and produced the big serves when he needed them most.

Baghdatis72
01-25-2008, 12:34 PM
FINALLY A FINAL WITHOUT FEDERER AND/OR NADAL!!! So looking forward to it! Both guys have played so well this tournament, great for the sport!!!

Agreed :yeah: :woohoo:

We had enough of the same thing for so many years in every Grand Slam. I mean Fed plays well but watching him destroy the opponent in the final in straight sets almost every time in AO and USO is a bit repetitive and with no suspence. In the RG and Wimbledon only Rafa managed to pose a threat and beat him in the final.

Björki
01-25-2008, 12:34 PM
a new GS champ :banana:

the cat
01-25-2008, 12:37 PM
Well done to Djokovic on beating Federer in straight sets in the semi's. Beating Roger is one thing but beating him in straight sets is another. Amazing play from Novak. :D I only hope Djokovic doesn't have an emotional letdown in the final against Tsonga.

Rogiman
01-25-2008, 12:37 PM
a new GS champ :banana:Exactly!

Last time that happened (2005 RG) I wasn't excited at all.

This time I am.

adee-gee
01-25-2008, 12:42 PM
Fed interview

Q. Do you think he'll go on and win the final now?

ROGER FEDERER: I don't care really.


Q. Can you measure his improvement at all? Has he improved that much?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I think he's played pretty much the same, you know, for the last let's say nine months or so, or last year. He's had a good start to the year, as well.
:lol: classy as always Roger :hatoff:

adee-gee
01-25-2008, 12:44 PM
Mellow Yellow, mangoes, NYCTennisFan, stebs.....are you all ok? :awww: :hug:

Langers
01-25-2008, 12:46 PM
Well done Novak, schooled Roger 'straight sets' Federer.

Freaking brilliant result. Love it.

Langers
01-25-2008, 12:49 PM
Can I just say again that I am so FREAKING PUMPED by this result.

Some LIFE INTO THE TENNIS WORLD. LOVE IT, ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT.

THANKYOU DJOKOVIC! :worship:

CassL
01-25-2008, 12:57 PM
yay!!!!! Straight sets, baby.:worship:

Baghdatis72
01-25-2008, 12:59 PM
Can I just say again that I am so FREAKING PUMPED by this result.

Some LIFE INTO THE TENNIS WORLD. LOVE IT, ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT.

THANKYOU DJOKOVIC! :worship:

I feel the same way :D

Some variety at last! :cool:

Tennis-Chick
01-25-2008, 01:12 PM
Well done Nole!! Great match, you can definitely win it on Sunday :yeah:

stebs
01-25-2008, 01:13 PM
Mellow Yellow, mangoes, NYCTennisFan, stebs.....are you all ok? :awww: :hug:

Great win for Djokovic and I know a lot of people will say Roger played terrible but that would be rubbish. He didn't play a great match and of course hardcore fans will be upset by this but sensical fans will accept it. It was about average for Roger and the third set was actually pretty damn good from both I think, good serves and nice putaways. The rallies were well fought also. Djoko definately deserved the win today and he outplayed Federer almost everywhere really. I think Djokovic was maybe a tiny bit fortunate to get away in three but I don't think Federer winning a set would've changed things because he was just not good enough today and Djokovic concentration was impressively unwavering. Definately a better match than that at the USO.

Will be a good final and I hope Djokovic doesn't get complacent thinking he's done the hard work because Tsonga has been playing at a level Federer rarely approached today.

rofe
01-25-2008, 01:13 PM
Well played Novak. Good prediction from me about the win but I got the # of sets wrong. I thought Novak would win in 4 - he straight-setted Roger.

I haven't seen the match yet but seems like posters here confirmed my reasoning behind Roger's loss.


Well, I have more v-cash now. :)

Golfnduck
01-25-2008, 01:16 PM
NOVAK!!!!! :woohoo: :bigclap: :woohoo: Great job!!!! :yeah:

muniu
01-25-2008, 01:17 PM
lalalalallaaaaaaa YEAHHHHHHHH :woohoo:
Nole :banana: great match!!! Repeat this in the Final :woohoo:
lalalal nanan woohoo yeahhhhhh fuck yeahhhhhh :woohoo:

Shanna
01-25-2008, 01:18 PM
:woohoo:

No Federer/Nadal winner for a difference!

This is what will make tennis more interesting to follow, not knowing for sure that Roger will be in the final!!! (although I like him)

Congrats Novak! :bounce:

mangoes
01-25-2008, 01:20 PM
Mellow Yellow, mangoes, NYCTennisFan, stebs.....are you all ok? :awww: :hug:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I'm fine Adam:ras: Rafa also being out makes things ok:p

I'm actually excited at the prospect of a GS without Roger or Rafa. I will be very happy if Tsonga is able to close out this fairy tale run. It will definitely be exciting for the tennis world.

adee-gee
01-25-2008, 01:23 PM
Great win for Djokovic and I know a lot of people will say Roger played terrible but that would be rubbish. He didn't play a great match and of course hardcore fans will be upset by this but sensical fans will accept it. It was about average for Roger and the third set was actually pretty damn good from both I think, good serves and nice putaways. The rallies were well fought also. Djoko definately deserved the win today and he outplayed Federer almost everywhere really. I think Djokovic was maybe a tiny bit fortunate to get away in three but I don't think Federer winning a set would've changed things because he was just not good enough today and Djokovic concentration was impressively unwavering. Definately a better match than that at the USO.

Will be a good final and I hope Djokovic doesn't get complacent thinking he's done the hard work because Tsonga has been playing at a level Federer rarely approached today.
Very fair :yeah:

I was expecting you to get annoyed at me hinting you're a Fedtard :( :p
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I'm fine Adam:ras: Rafa also being out makes things ok:p

I'm actually excited at the prospect of a GS without Roger or Rafa. I will be very happy if Tsonga is able to close out this fairy tale run. It will definitely be exciting for the tennis world.
Splendid ;) :hug: I'm glad Rafa was able to cheer you up.

Now it's just Mellow Yellow I'm worried about.

rocketassist
01-25-2008, 01:24 PM
mirkaland must be contemplating suicide- did you see Mirka's face at the end- priceless. :)

stebs
01-25-2008, 01:24 PM
Very fair :yeah:

I was expecting you to get annoyed at me hinting you're a Fedtard :( :p

I am a Fedtard since the meaning changed from having to be delusional into anyone who even slightly enjoys watching him.

I mean, Federer has 3 AO's in 5 years still, people should remember that. He played about equal to this year in 2006 I think but got lucky that he didn't play anyone who could hurt him enough except Kolya and the Russian lived up to his choker tag very well in that match. Federer shouldn't have lost in straights today but no doubt he was second best off the ground and he used his slice BH return to destroy Djokovic at the USO and the fact that the Servian was able to adapt and overcome that challenge today speaks volumes about his adaptability, his determination and overall, about his tennis talent.

Rogiman
01-25-2008, 01:25 PM
Now it's just Mellow Yellow I'm worried about.Go to the Federer forum, someone is bitching there about the Djokovic family already :retard: :lol:

star
01-25-2008, 01:26 PM
Shattering! Exciting finals on both sides. There will be two new winners in OZ. At least one first time winner and possibly two.

Straight sets. Nice. Bravo Djokovic.

Sparko1030
01-25-2008, 01:33 PM
:eek: I thought at least it would go to 5 sets! Wow!!! What a surprise to wake up to!

:hug: for Roger-maybe this will result in him improving an already mythic game.
:hatoff: Nole. I'd be lying if I said I liked the guy but he certainly spices things up on the old ATP :yeah:

Now I will have to watch the reply later today :lol:

justClaudia
01-25-2008, 01:41 PM
and in straights, well done Nole. :worship:

Foxy
01-25-2008, 01:41 PM
AWESOME!
That's the way it should be from now on! But you felt good yesterday, right? Now it's payback time! Vengeance is so sweet... Sweeter than sugar, for sure.

HarryMan
01-25-2008, 01:44 PM
Fed interview

Q. Do you think he'll go on and win the final now?

ROGER FEDERER: I don't care really.


Q. Can you measure his improvement at all? Has he improved that much?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I think he's played pretty much the same, you know, for the last let's say nine months or so, or last year. He's had a good start to the year, as well.


Shut the fuck up, Roger!! You just had your ass whopped in style:haha::haha::haha:

Stop being a baby, u idiot!!:baby:

RonE
01-25-2008, 01:58 PM
Bit graceless from Federer.

Not Serena-esque but still not giving much respect.

Djokovic has improved many aspects of his game.

I noticed when they shook hands at the net, Roger kept the handshake very brief. Nole at first tried to embrace him after the handshake but Roger turned the other way to shake the umpire's hand.

I guess Roger really doesn't like Nole very much.

Grunge
01-25-2008, 02:03 PM
AO 2007 in the fourth round. Federer vs. Djokovic.
Wasn't it Djokovic who said "Roger is going down" or something along those lines before he lost in straights? Give me some time to dig up the quote.

Yes he said that. It was more in joke tone, but even if it was not joke why is that insulting? Guy just believed in himself one year ago. If he didn't we would not see him beating Roger today.

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 02:04 PM
I noticed when they shook hands at the net, Roger kept the handshake very brief. Nole at first tried to embrace him after the handshake but Roger turned the other way to shake the umpire's hand.


If NOle tried to embrace Federer, that tells it's him who doesn't respect Federer and not the other way around. What do you think, did Federer try to embrace Sampras after defeating him back than?

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01-25-2008, 02:06 PM
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This is the Name what I been talk whole year, NOW He is finally come out. He is going to the title. Roger is done.

Yes. We got to have a brand New No 1. No matter who came out. He is a brand new guy

Burrow
01-25-2008, 02:09 PM
I bet this Djokovic wins the tournament now, I knew he would beat Federer, I told everybody, damn Roger...

Go Jo-Wilfried Tsonga!!!!! You can do it.

RonE
01-25-2008, 02:17 PM
If NOle tried to embrace Federer, that tells it's him who doesn't respect Federer and not the other way around. What do you think, did Federer try to embrace Sampras after defeating him back than?

I wasn't implying anything about one player not respecting the other, I was just making a remark on what I observed.

I happen to like both guys. For the record as far as I can remember I don't think Roger and Pete embraced at the net but I could be wrong.

Foxy
01-25-2008, 02:21 PM
The good thing is that tennis defeated luck. Simple as that.

belco
01-25-2008, 02:22 PM
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

All i have to say is HVALA BOGU! Ima Boga

I AM ESTATIC AT THIS RESULT... ESTATIC :)

Black Adam
01-25-2008, 02:23 PM
My frriend beted £5 that Nadal would lose 3-0 to Tsonga and another £5 that Djokovic would smoke Federer 3-0. Tonight he is cashing in on £2000!!!!!!

:haha: :haha: Now we can ejoy a mor ebalanced final. I think it's 55-45 to Djokovic. Either way I am happy and hopefully this is the beginning of the End for Cheesy. I don't mind him but he has the worst fans around, all stuck up in his ass.

belco
01-25-2008, 02:24 PM
P.S

This match will be downloadable from www.t3nnis.tv as soon as the capper has it ready :)

Black Adam
01-25-2008, 02:25 PM
I noticed when they shook hands at the net, Roger kept the handshake very brief. Nole at first tried to embrace him after the handshake but Roger turned the other way to shake the umpire's hand.

I guess Roger really doesn't like Nole very much.
No, really???:rolleyes: He is the one who came up with the Djoker nickname and even though he admited Djokovic had surprised by out performing Murray and Gasquet, he still doesn't think much of him. He probably hates how Djoke is so in face and tough talking................and of course he also walks the walk :yeah:

njnetswill
01-25-2008, 02:33 PM
:woohoo:

I love this year's AO. :bounce:

kinglear
01-25-2008, 02:36 PM
u think?

lol I was so sure Federer would have defeated Djokovic, but I guess this proves that Djokovic can also beat Federer at the Slam level. Wouldn't it be something if Djokovic and Ivanovic won Slams. I wish Tsonga luck, but wouldn't it suck if his play was just a fluke. We shall see. Tsonga has an incredible serve, but Djokovic obviously is the man meant to win.

Tommy fan
01-25-2008, 02:45 PM
Uffffff

MCL
01-25-2008, 02:48 PM
:bigclap: Djokovic :bigclap:

Congrats to Nole for an impressive win (based on the scoreline). I'll try to watch the rerun today.
I'm actually not extremely suprised that he won because I had a feeling we would have new blood in the final. (My major goals for Fed this year include him winning the FO and Olympic Gold.)

Sagacious
01-25-2008, 02:50 PM
How many Fedhaters here??

l_mac
01-25-2008, 02:52 PM
Congrats to Nole :bigclap: :worship:

Two straight GS finals, very impressive. I fully expect he will win his first slam on Sunday and deserved it will be.

Roger :mad: :fiery: Way to ruin my weekend.

Black Adam
01-25-2008, 02:54 PM
Don't you just love some of the Gold comments made by the Djoker. I love his guy's self belief. And to think some guys were considering him not a contender for this AO after his performances in MC and Hopman's Cup. The Djoker has so many tricks up his sleeve.
As I was saying, if you tell me at the start of last year that I will play four consecutive semifinals in Grand Slams and two finals, I would accept it right away. That's no doubt.
Well, I didn't pay attention on him too much, you know. Was he performing the same way in US Open and here? I can't say exactly right. Why? Because I was performing better. I was more patient and I didn't allow him to be aggressive and to play his style. So I was the one who was in the control of the match, so I think I deserved to win.
:yeah: :rocker2:
Do I need to say anything else? Stats say it all. I was intending to be from the start aggressive, especially on his second serve. And, you know, I was well‑prepared for the match. You know, if he wasn't serving, of course he had problems, he was struggling with the serve. Why? Because I made a lot of pressure. It's not because he was struggling. You know, if you put pressure on somebody it's not easy to maintain the consistency of the serve.

:yeah:
This boy shoots it the way it is. At last someone who is anti-Political Correctness. Love you Nole.

Greenday
01-25-2008, 02:59 PM
Fed deserved to loose this match and I am happy he did....I stopped watching the match after he choked serving for the 1st set, where he made 3 forehand errors, his forehands were landing were landing at the bottom of the net......tht pretty much told me tht he was going to lose the match, he still have couple more years left to collect those 3 grandslams...hopefully he realises the fact that his baseline game is deteriorating day by day and does someting abt it...

ChinoRios4Ever
01-25-2008, 03:03 PM
Noleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

:worship::worship::worship:

Greenday
01-25-2008, 03:09 PM
I used to feel reallly bad for couple of days whenever roger loses, no matter how small the event is, but for some reason I am happy abt this loss....he will come out and realize how pathetic his baseline game has become since wimbledon last year, he cant stay in a 10-shot rally and he will be the 1st one to shank a forehand or backhand....hopefully now he realises it.....the guy made 10 straight grand slam finals and won 12 grandslams, he should know better.....now tht fed id pushed down on a hardcourt grandslam, we shall see how he is going to come back.....

Modetopia
01-25-2008, 03:16 PM
A whole new world.:angel:

brent-o
01-25-2008, 03:19 PM
Couldn't see most of the match, just the first set and the TB in the end. Congrats to Nole. Well played, great composure to close it out.
Fed, that was poor playing so many UE's, but every streak has to end sometimes. :sad:
Anyway, we get a new GS winner and for the first time since 4 years I can watch a final without caring who wins. That's good for a change. :)

I know, I'm so psyched about that too. Both guys are in great form leading to the final and I look for it to be very entertaining. And for once, I don't care who wins!

Bad Religion
01-25-2008, 03:28 PM
Expected easy win

Best days of Federer are behind him , clear as water

Bilbo
01-25-2008, 03:29 PM
I guess Roger really doesn't like Nole very much.

so you wonder why? there are dozen of people who doesn't like him.

cc2monac
01-25-2008, 03:40 PM
so you wonder why? there are dozen of people who doesn't like him.

an dozen of people who likes him :D ;)

Jimnik
01-25-2008, 03:43 PM
I missed this match and I have to admit I've hardly seen Djokovic play this tournament but he must be on another planet this year. He just keeps surprising, not because he wins but by the manner in which he wins. He's just steam rolled past Hewitt, Ferrer and Federer - :worship:. Unbelievable, and I thought he had a tough draw.

Another great SF result. Two victories for tennis. :yeah:

Baghdatis72
01-25-2008, 03:44 PM
so you wonder why? there are dozen of people who doesn't like him.

Most of Rafa and Federer fans obviously don't like him because he has and will beat their idols many times in the years to come :D

Nobody likes watching the players they like lose and Djokovic is so good that he makes that happen more often than expected :lol:

Go Novak :rocker2:

A final without the face of Rafa and Federer. It's been so long that it's like a dream :aparty:

*Opens the champagne* :drink:

l_mac
01-25-2008, 03:45 PM
I want to dedicate this win to all Nole haters and dismissive Fedtards - enjoy the scoreline :)

And if there is such thing as "JesusFed", today we witnessed the birth of ApostleDjok :worship:

:lol: :hug: Enjoy yourself over the next few days ;)

Easy win.

I should be a profesional gambler.

You should! TMNostradamus.

The smart money says Wilander is celebrating. I'm sure he's blitzed by now....
:lol:

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 03:49 PM
....I stopped watching the match after he choked serving for the 1st set, where he made 3 forehand errors, his forehands were landing were landing at the bottom of the net......tht pretty much told me tht he was going to lose the match,Good eye mate.

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 04:15 PM
I used to feel reallly bad for couple of days whenever roger loses, no matter how small the event is, but for some reason I am happy abt this loss....he will come out and realize how pathetic his baseline game has become since wimbledon last year, he cant stay in a 10-shot rally and he will be the 1st one to shank a forehand or backhand....hopefully now he realises it.....the guy made 10 straight grand slam finals and won 12 grandslams, he should know better.....now tht fed id pushed down on a hardcourt grandslam, we shall see how he is going to come back.....

it was predictable this will start happening because defense is not his natural game

tangerine_dream
01-25-2008, 04:21 PM
One of the worst matches Federer has ever played since 2004.
:spit: Try not to peak before the 2008 Arse Clown contest.

Baghdatis72
01-25-2008, 04:22 PM
:spit: Try not to peak before the 2008 Arse Clown contest.

:haha:

maxxo
01-25-2008, 04:30 PM
Gamebookers special bets

http://i30.tinypic.com/2vd5kxv.jpg

:)

Patman
01-25-2008, 04:30 PM
Federer choked when he was up 5 - 3. All he needed was to close out the set and Djokovic would have been on his heels instead of Federer. He had a lot of unforcer errors where he simply missed his forehand wide or long or in the net. Pretty routine ones too.

Jimnik
01-25-2008, 04:32 PM
Gamebookers special bets

http://i30.tinypic.com/2vd5kxv.jpg

:)
:haha: Thanks for that. I particularly liked "Federer to retire before the end of 2008: 100/1".

Those bets look like the titles of threads and polls which I expect to be created soon by MTF's resident knee-jerk reactors.

Baghdatis72
01-25-2008, 04:36 PM
Gamebookers special bets

http://i30.tinypic.com/2vd5kxv.jpg

:)

Hilarious :haha:

Bilbo
01-25-2008, 04:36 PM
Most of Rafa and Federer fans obviously don't like him because he has and will beat their idols many times in the years to come :D

i could care less who he beats even if they are my favorite players. that's not the problem i've with nole.

and from what i read and judging by the polls nole seems to be the most hated player on MTF. i don't think it has only to do with beating fed and rafa.

Tiklish
01-25-2008, 04:39 PM
Fed deserved to loose this match and I am happy he did....I stopped watching the match after he choked serving for the 1st set, where he made 3 forehand errors, his forehands were landing were landing at the bottom of the net......tht pretty much told me tht he was going to lose the match, he still have couple more years left to collect those 3 grandslams...hopefully he realises the fact that his baseline game is deteriorating day by day and does someting abt it...

Me too. When Rogi wrapped a bow around the first set and handed it to Djokovic I went to bed. Couldn't bear to watch. Tennis was much more fun when I didn't care. I may never bother watching a slam again, unless my favorites other than Federer (Feli, Gonzalez, Verdasco) happen to be playing Americans and I might actually get a chance to see them. Otherwise, too much stress worrying about Rogi and his records, and no fun to make it worth it.

rosamunda
01-25-2008, 04:49 PM
I used to feel reallly bad for couple of days whenever roger loses, no matter how small the event is, but for some reason I am happy abt this loss....he will come out and realize how pathetic his baseline game has become since wimbledon last year, he cant stay in a 10-shot rally and he will be the 1st one to shank a forehand or backhand....hopefully now he realises it.....the guy made 10 straight grand slam finals and won 12 grandslams, he should know better.....now tht fed id pushed down on a hardcourt grandslam, we shall see how he is going to come back.....

I'm sort of with you on this, although I'm still a bit gutted that he lost - can't say I'm happy. He's been playing far too passively and has been getting away with it, and his baseline game has been all over the place. And yet, just 2 months ago at Shanghai, he played the most blistering attacking tennis I've seen from him for a long time. Weird.

He's been really struggling through the whole of this tournament apart from those no-competition wins in the first 2 rounds. I think the writing was on the wall when he had that epic with Tipsy, and I'm actually amazed that he got as far as the semis. Everybody's been saying - commentators in particular - that he's been a bit off the pace for much of the time, and I do think he's been low on energy. That didn't matter too much earlier on with the lesser players, but Djokovic playing out of his skin and 6 matches in was perhaps a match too far (not taking anything away from Djokovic here - he played a blinder and Fed may well have still lost playing his A game). Whether that's a consequence of his food poisoning and enforced lack of practice and matchplay, or whether he's just lost the plot, is debatable, but he's looked ill at ease since the 2nd round.

I'm hopeful, like you, that this will be a wake-up call for him, and he'll knuckle down and get on with it. In a funny way, the pressure is off him a bit because of this loss. Perhaps he can relax a bit and start to enjoy his tennis again. Looks like it's been a pain in the ar*e for him this last couple of weeks.

WhataQT
01-25-2008, 04:50 PM
Wow, totally surprised that Nole could do it in str8 sets.

Baghdatis72
01-25-2008, 04:52 PM
i could care less who he beats even if they are my favorite players. that's not the problem i've with nole.

and from what i read and judging by the polls nole seems to be the most hated player on MTF. i don't think it has only to do with beating fed and rafa.

That's reasonable and not necessarily a bad thing in my opinion.

This hate comes from the following factors:

1) He is the player closest to overtaking Nadal's and Federer's rankings and Nadal and Federer have loads of fans who reasonably don't like that.

2) His personality is a bit strange and that puts some people off (I personally find his personality amusing).

3) He used to take many injury timeouts and that created a lot of haters among the tennis fans, who refuse to even think of the possibility that he might have actually needed most (if not all) of them.

tangerine_dream
01-25-2008, 04:54 PM
10 aces, 60% 1st serve. Most of the players on tour would kill to have serve like that. :bolt:
It's interesting to see the stats from their USO and AO matches side by side.

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rosamunda
01-25-2008, 05:00 PM
Most of Rafa and Federer fans obviously don't like him because he has and will beat their idols many times in the years to come :D
Nobody likes watching the players they like lose and Djokovic is so good that he makes that happen more often than expected :lol:

Go Novak :rocker2:

A final without the face of Rafa and Federer. It's been so long that it's like a dream :aparty:

*Opens the champagne* :drink:

Not true. I've never liked Djokovic. He's brash, cocky, theatrical and too in-your-face for my liking. I don't want him to beat anyone, let alone Fed or Rafa. I'd go so far as to say that I'd rather Rafa beat Fed than him, despite Rafa still being Fed's nearest challenger for the No 1 (at least for now.....:rolleyes:) So I guess I've got an annoying time ahead of me...........:(

Rogiman
01-25-2008, 05:00 PM
It's interesting to see the stats from their USO and AO matches side by side.Thanks for that. Federer's stats are almost identical. Clearly Djokovic's progress continues, whether he (Federer) would acknowledge that or not.

cherry@cupcake
01-25-2008, 05:01 PM
A Slam final without Federer or Nadal? :eek: I'm not sure what to do with that. It seems wrong.

No, not really. I think it's great for tennis that this AO will see the sport with a new Grand Slam champion (and congrats to both Djokovic and Tsonga for making it this far, and so convincingly). I'm really pleased for them both.

2008 could be a really cool year for tennis. Looking forward to the final...and looking forward to rest of the season!:D

ReturnWinner
01-25-2008, 05:02 PM
That's reasonable and not necessarily a bad thing in my opinion.
He used to take many injury timeouts and that created a lot of haters among the tennis fans, who refuse to even think of the possibility that he might have actually needed most (if not all) of them.

and you and his fans refuse to think he might not actually needed most of them, watch his match against Garcia Lopez in Estoril, if you are objective you will agree he pulled horrendous gamesmasnship

and btw he has asked for the medical time out until the match with chela in vienna, so its too early to say "used"

Baghdatis72
01-25-2008, 05:13 PM
Not true. I've never liked Djokovic. He's brash, cocky, theatrical and too in-your-face for my liking. I don't want him to beat anyone, let alone Fed or Rafa. I'd go so far as to say that I'd rather Rafa beat Fed than him, despite Rafa still being Fed's nearest challenger for the No 1 (at least for now.....:rolleyes:) So I guess I've got an annoying time ahead of me...........:(

It's all about personal preferences then.

I think he's great :D

and you and his fans refuse to think he might not actually needed most of them, watch his match against Garcia Lopez in Estoril, if you are objective you will agree he pulled horrendous gamesmasnship

and btw he has asked for the medical time out until the match with chela in vienna, so its too early to say "used"

I am not one of those people supporting only 1 player and being narrow minded about it. Only he knows for sure if he needed a medical time out or not but the important thing here is that he would have won anyway because he is a good player.

I remember him taking a medical timeout against Baghdatis once and I didn't start calling him a cheater because if Baggy really deserved to win that time he would have won anyway.

Also he had many injuries and breathing problems in the beginning of his career and people seem to forget that and just moan about it.

If someone else takes a medical time out it's fine but Djokovic is always cheating in the mind of haters. He even had to retire in a GS semifinal because of injury and he took a timeout there.

So in all there is no sufficient proof in favor of those who say that he is cheating using the med timeouts and also the timeouts themselves shouldn't be considered cheating as they don't actually affect any aspect of the game directly.

P.S: Go Novak :aparty:

mangoes
01-25-2008, 05:58 PM
That's reasonable and not necessarily a bad thing in my opinion.

This hate comes from the following factors:

1) He is the player closest to overtaking Nadal's and Federer's rankings and Nadal and Federer have loads of fans who reasonably don't like that.

2) His personality is a bit strange and that puts some people off (I personally find his personality amusing).

3) He used to take many injury timeouts and that created a lot of haters among the tennis fans, who refuse to even think of the possibility that he might have actually needed most (if not all) of them.

NOT SO. I haven't cared about Djokovic since the first time I saw him play at the US Open 2005. In fact, the first bad rep I received on this forum was because I said that I could never see myself as a fan of Djokovic. Furthermore, I try to post as little about him as possible and I don't enjoy watching his matches. I do think he is talented. Not all of his fans are irritating. I do like a couple of them like Jess.

On the other hand, I do post about Rafa quite a bit. I also do watch Rafa's matches and I'd rather see Rafa take over as no. 1 from Roger instead of Djokovic. For all the crap I say about Rafa, there are many things I admire about him. There is very little if anything I admire about Djokovic.

Baghdatis72
01-25-2008, 06:06 PM
NOT SO. I haven't cared about Djokovic since the first time I saw him play at the US Open 2005. In fact, the first bad rep I received on this forum was because I said that I could never see myself as a fan of Djokovic. Furthermore, I try to post as little about him as possible and I don't enjoy watching his matches. I do think he is talented. Not all of his fans are irritating. I do like a couple of them like Jess.

On the other hand, I do post about Rafa quite a bit. I also do watch Rafa's matches and I'd rather see Rafa take over as no. 1 from Roger instead of Djokovic. For all the crap I say about Rafa, there are many things I admire about him. There is very little if anything I admire about Djokovic.

That's why I said loads of fans and not all the fans :D

If you can never see yourself as a fan of Djokovic that's not a bad thing as it's personal preferences and everyone is different :)

Alex999
01-25-2008, 06:08 PM
Congrats to Novak. Well done. Love him or hate him he is a fantastic player. Djokovic has a huge heart and big balls.
Novak's confidence was just scary. I mean he is only 20 yo. Did you see that look in his eyes? He looked like a mad man. I just don't understand how he was able to be so confident. I knew he was able to beat Roger, I just thought that it was too early because I didn't believe that he was mentally strong enough.

mariyella80
01-25-2008, 06:10 PM
I am soooo HAPPY FOR NOLE, I WANT him to WIN the title......but just wondering, why are there so many of you here that seem to real DISLIKE FEDERER LOL......

vidanhv
01-25-2008, 06:13 PM
Frankly, if I could choose whether Fed and Nadal will like me, or in exchange I will be in a great company of Sharapova and Ivanovic, I would choose latter (without hesitation). It doesn't matter if they like each other. Fair-play on the court is what counts.:)

Baghdatis72
01-25-2008, 06:19 PM
I am soooo HAPPY FOR NOLE, I WANT him to WIN the title......but just wondering, why are there so many of you here that seem to real DISLIKE FEDERER LOL......

It's not Federer hate in some cases, it's just a case of wanting something new and different for a change and a new Grand Slam champion because things were getting very repetitive.

It's not his fault though because no one could beat him before the final of a GS for 3 years now (as far as I remember).

Foxy
01-25-2008, 06:21 PM
I am soooo HAPPY FOR NOLE, I WANT him to WIN the title......but just wondering, why are there so many of you here that seem to real DISLIKE FEDERER LOL......

Tons of reasons. Both tennis and personal and fans issues.
And why so many people dislike Nadal, Djokovic or whoelse beat Federer?

oneandonlyhsn
01-25-2008, 07:22 PM
Congrats to Nole, he was the better player. When Fed needed to deliver he didnt and Nole did.

The great thing about Nole vs Tsonga is that Muhammad Ali's tennis incarnation has a genuine chance at the title. Allez Tsonga :rocker:

the cat
01-25-2008, 07:26 PM
That was a great win for Djokovic over Federer. But Novak needs to seal the deal and beat Tsonga in the final and win his first grand slam singles title.

Federer remarkably made a record 10 consecutive grand slam finals so he was overdue going to lose before a grand slam final. And that's a record I can't ever see being broken.

Vlad
01-25-2008, 07:29 PM
It's not FedEX any more.... Now it's EX-Fed!

tennisgal_001
01-25-2008, 07:30 PM
It's not FedEX any more.... Now it's EX-Fed!

That's so mean but it really made me laugh :lol:

Patman
01-25-2008, 08:01 PM
That's reasonable and not necessarily a bad thing in my opinion.

This hate comes from the following factors:

1) He is the player closest to overtaking Nadal's and Federer's rankings and Nadal and Federer have loads of fans who reasonably don't like that.

2) His personality is a bit strange and that puts some people off (I personally find his personality amusing).

3) He used to take many injury timeouts and that created a lot of haters among the tennis fans, who refuse to even think of the possibility that he might have actually needed most (if not all) of them.

Don't forget the way he takes 50 billion years to serve. I think players will take awhile to adjust to waiting for more then 30 seconds for a serve.

gogogirl
01-25-2008, 08:33 PM
Hey All,

I didn't tape this one. I woke up at about something to 4:00 a.m. and turned the TV on, saw that Nole was leading by two sets and I was like:eek:. When I got up at about 5:45, I saw them walking toward the net to shake hands. I felt strongly that Nole had an excellent chance. He believes and he has game. Plus, he remembers how Roger dissed him over a year ago by stating the other young guns had more game than he. I do declare!

Roger is still an excellent tennis player, is graceful around the court, has serious skills and some more stuff - but ultimately, he is more of a target than ever.

More and more players will be able to challenge, test and stretch him. This is just the way nature planned it in my book. Players from all kinds of sports can dominate for a time, but when their time is up, it is just up. Players on the ATP tour will be more dogmatic when playing Roger from this day forward and moreso - period.

Good on D-Vic for pulling thru. The best player on the day won - and that is for sure.

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 08:36 PM
The only question is, was it realy only Djokovic from the other side of the net

Metis
01-25-2008, 09:42 PM
Whoa! WTF? :eek:

Just finished watching the replay and can't believe Djokovic won in straight sets! He really did a great job this time and completely outplayed the No1 :hatoff:. It seems a lot of people are delighted a new champion will be crowned tomorrow and it's an understandable reaction. It certainly brings more excitement for the new season. I hope we get to see a great match on Sunday :).

Merton
01-25-2008, 09:48 PM
Congrats to Nole, he was clearly the better player during the tournament and he just confirmed it without being overwhelmed from the occassion. Roger needed a jolt like that, in my mind he is still the better player on hard courts but he needs to confirm it on court. IW and Miami will certainly be very interesting now.

For those celebrating the demise of Roger it is way too early, wait at least until he loses at Wimbledon to draw any conclusions.

Farenhajt
01-25-2008, 10:10 PM
...wait at least until he loses at Wimbledon...

Be prepared for Novak to improve even more and further refine his anti-ExFed strategies till summer. If he pulls it through, that'll be REALLY tectonic for Fed, since he's very emotionally attached to that trophy...

What actually interests me is what improvements he plans for the clay season...

l_mac
01-25-2008, 10:13 PM
Be prepared for Novak to improve even more and further refine his anti-Fed strategies till summer. If he pulls it through, that'll be REALLY tectonic for Fed, since he's very emotionally attached to that trophy...

What actually interests me is what improvements he plans for the clay season...

Your ellipses look threatening ;) :p

Baghdatis72
01-25-2008, 10:39 PM
Don't forget the way he takes 50 billion years to serve. I think players will take awhile to adjust to waiting for more then 30 seconds for a serve.

Many players do that and it helps for concentration while being legal and in the rights of the players. Nadal does it to some extend as well.

Merton
01-25-2008, 10:40 PM
Be prepared for Novak to improve even more and further refine his anti-ExFed strategies till summer. If he pulls it through, that'll be REALLY tectonic for Fed, since he's very emotionally attached to that trophy...

What actually interests me is what improvements he plans for the clay season...

It is way too early to think about clay and grass now, we will see. I think Nole will do great if he can repeat the two semifinal performances from last year but again, it is too early for predictions there.

ReturnWinner
01-25-2008, 10:42 PM
Many players do that and it helps for concentration while being legal and in the rights of the players. Nadal does it to some extend as well.

:zzz: that about concentration is pure bullshit, its gamesmaship, 90% of players do not do shits like that to concentrate and btw both nadal and djokovic many times exceed the allowed time to serve

Farenhajt
01-25-2008, 10:47 PM
That was not really a prediction. An improvement trend is glaringly obvious for more than a year now, and there's no reason to expect it'll stop (since there's still much room to go forward). Moreover, since he's planning on cutting the number of tourneys/matches, I expect him to stay fresh enough throughout the year, which is very important for his game.

Marek.
01-25-2008, 10:49 PM
Decade of dominance, here we come! :cool:

star
01-25-2008, 10:52 PM
It's interesting to see the stats from their USO and AO matches side by side.

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Interesting. Big stat difference is the number of winners for Djokovic. Huge increase. Also a few more aces.

Thanks for digging that up and posting it. :hatoff:

Ruski
01-25-2008, 10:56 PM
Federer's performace was terrible!
Poor volley execution.... Keep hitting his forehands into the net....
One BIG BAD DAY in the office for him!

sawan66278
01-25-2008, 11:24 PM
A few observations after watching the match:

1. Roger played like a coward. Simply put: this is why he lost the match. Time and time and time again, he simply sliced the backhand back into play. This shot is effective against players like Rafa because Rafa's grip forces him to hit up, leading to a return that is in Roger's perfect strike zone. But, for a flat, power hitter like Djokovic, its a kill shot. Roger was AFRAID to come over the ball...and he paid for it. It is inexcusable that the man who can return Roddick's serve with ease, could not get a decent return back on any chances he had in the second and third sets.

2. Roger refused to attack and come in to the net. Again, a sign of fear. MAKE THE MAN BEAT YOU. Ivan Lendl had some of the best passing shots ever, and yet, Stefan Edberg had a winning record against him. Edberg usually won around 60% of the points at net...and for him, that was fine. Djokovic has NOWHERE the near the quality of passing shots as Lendl; Roger has superb volleys. BUT IF YOU ARE AFRAID, you don't venture in.

3. Roger choked again when attempting to serve out the first set. I cannot recall a single time in a big spot where Pete failed to close out a set or match.

Roger's performance was the most timid and pathetic performance I have witnessed from him in a slam. Yes, Djokovic deserves credit for taking advantage. However, the match was on Roger's racquet...the problem was that 00 Ego was afraid to exercise his license to kill.

World Beater
01-25-2008, 11:27 PM
A few observations after watching the match:

1. Roger played like a coward. Simply put: this is why he lost the match. Time and time and time again, he simply sliced the backhand back into play. This shot is effective against players like Rafa because Rafa's grip forces him to hit up, leading to a return that is in Roger's perfect strike zone. But, for a flat, power hitter like Djokovic, its a kill shot. Roger was AFRAID to come over the ball...and he paid for it. It is inexcusable that the man who can return Roddick's serve with ease, could not get a decent return back on any chances he had in the second and third sets.

2. Roger refused to attack and come in to the net. Again, a sign of fear. MAKE THE MAN BEAT YOU. Ivan Lendl had some of the best passing shots ever, and yet, Stefan Edberg had a winning record against him. Edberg usually won around 60% of the points at net...and for him, that was fine. Djokovic has NOWHERE the near the quality of passing shots as Lendl; Roger has superb volleys. BUT IF YOU ARE AFRAID, you don't venture in.

3. Roger choked again when attempting to serve out the first set. I cannot recall a single time in a big spot where Pete failed to close out a set or match.

Roger's performance was the most timid and pathetic performance I have witnessed from him in a slam. Yes, Djokovic deserves credit for taking advantage. However, the match was on Roger's racquet...the problem was that 00 Ego was afraid to exercise his license to kill.


Pete has done it quite a few times as well. Its just selective memory. Federer does do it with a higher frequency of course which reflects the superiority of pete's serve, the overall faster conditions and returning quality of pete's generation.

I mean we are comparing ivanisevic, krajicek et al to djokovic in returning.;)

Marek.
01-25-2008, 11:38 PM
In the 2000 AO SF against Agassi, wasn't Pete up something like *5-3 in the fourth set tie-break? He didn't close that one out.

World Beater
01-25-2008, 11:44 PM
In the 2000 AO SF against Agassi, wasn't Pete up something like *5-3 in the fourth set tie-break? He didn't close that one out.

lets not forget pete choking against edberg, his debacles against corretja both at WTF and in davis cup. There's more im sure.:o

sawan66278
01-25-2008, 11:54 PM
That Agassi AO example is a few points. I'm talking about closing out sets after breaking. Roger failed twice in this tourney alone.

rosamunda
01-25-2008, 11:59 PM
A few observations after watching the match:

1. Roger played like a coward. Simply put: this is why he lost the match. Time and time and time again, he simply sliced the backhand back into play. This shot is effective against players like Rafa because Rafa's grip forces him to hit up, leading to a return that is in Roger's perfect strike zone. But, for a flat, power hitter like Djokovic, its a kill shot. Roger was AFRAID to come over the ball...and he paid for it. It is inexcusable that the man who can return Roddick's serve with ease, could not get a decent return back on any chances he had in the second and third sets.

2. Roger refused to attack and come in to the net. Again, a sign of fear. MAKE THE MAN BEAT YOU. Ivan Lendl had some of the best passing shots ever, and yet, Stefan Edberg had a winning record against him. Edberg usually won around 60% of the points at net...and for him, that was fine. Djokovic has NOWHERE the near the quality of passing shots as Lendl; Roger has superb volleys. BUT IF YOU ARE AFRAID, you don't venture in.

3. Roger choked again when attempting to serve out the first set. I cannot recall a single time in a big spot where Pete failed to close out a set or match.

Roger's performance was the most timid and pathetic performance I have witnessed from him in a slam. Yes, Djokovic deserves credit for taking advantage. However, the match was on Roger's racquet...the problem was that 00 Ego was afraid to exercise his license to kill.

I think Roger's confidence has been very low this tournament - he intimated as much in at least two of his interviews over the past couple of weeks - owned up to it, in fact, after the Tipsy match. I wouldn't say that he was a coward - I think that's a bit strong - more that he just didn't have the confidence in his own game to go for his shots and, when he did, they more often than not backfired. And that's a bit of a vicious circle in situations like this. But I agree, it was one of the worst performances I've ever seen from him in a slam.

Marek.
01-26-2008, 12:05 AM
That Agassi AO example is a few points. I'm talking about closing out sets after breaking. Roger failed twice in this tourney alone.

It's like WB said, Fed's serve isn't as good and the quality of returning is better. His ground game wasn't that great in both instances so when the serve came back he was going to be screwed.

wenty
01-26-2008, 02:48 AM
Congratulations Novak :worship: Best of luck against Tsonga.

FedFan_2007
01-26-2008, 02:57 AM
No, Tsonga will win. There is no fucking way in hell I will ever want that Djokerbitch to win a single match again! I hope he goes 0-22 the rest of the season!

Fedex
01-26-2008, 03:12 AM
Well done by Djokovic. Give him all the credit in the world. He definitely deserved to win this match and he totally outplayed Federer. I'm not sure of the last time I can remember saying that, but this one was obvious. Federer was battling out there and in the third set you could clearly tell he was giving it his all, but sometimes that is not enough. I know this is hard for some people to comprehend, but Federer is human. He just didn't have enough game to win today. I'm dissapointed, if for nothing else, it proves his detractors and supposed 'fans' right. Honestly, no one could see this coming, not even the great mediter.
The biggest factor in this match was court positioning. Djokovic was inside the baseline the whole match dicatating play and Federer played reactive tennis, which I don't know if he's ever done that on a faster surface. Federer usually controls the tempo and the match is decided on his terms, but that was certainly not the case last night. After he blew that first set, for the next 8 or 9 games, Federer was totally flat-footed and looked slow out there. Federer will play matches where he will make a lot of errors(which he didn't really do in this match), but you never see his footwork out of sorts like it was last night. He did make a bit of a push in the third, but even still Federer could not break through and Novak kept his poise.
And no, Federer is not close to being "finished" either, despite what mediter(who is a closet Fedtard) or the other Fedtards say. If Roger loses Wimbledon, then there might be some real reason for concern, but until then he is still the favorite in any non clay event he enters.
Anyway, I'm mildly surprised that this place didn't crash and explode at the conclusion of this match. :)

Fedex
01-26-2008, 03:25 AM
I'm pretty sure he wasn't.

His ego might have been.

savesthedizzle
01-26-2008, 03:33 AM
NOT SO. I haven't cared about Djokovic since the first time I saw him play at the US Open 2005. In fact, the first bad rep I received on this forum was because I said that I could never see myself as a fan of Djokovic. Furthermore, I try to post as little about him as possible and I don't enjoy watching his matches. I do think he is talented. Not all of his fans are irritating. I do like a couple of them like Jess.



I'm not irritating :woohoo: :dance: :hug: :lol:

dragons112
01-26-2008, 03:54 AM
Fucking brilliant from Nole :yeah:

Straight sets annihilation :haha:

The King is dead, long live the King! :D



Now bring on the excuses :lol:

King, Dead? lol i find that rather amusing as he is number 1. He lostin 2005 and went on too win two more slams.

Roger did not hae a warm up tournament and he should have been up to sets to luv form what i heard. he was underdone it was prety obvious. But if i was a non roger fan i would savour the moment as these things are only temproary :wavey:

dragons112
01-26-2008, 03:57 AM
Well done by Djokovic. Give him all the credit in the world. He definitely deserved to win this match and he totally outplayed Federer. I'm not sure of the last time I can remember saying that, but this one was obvious. Federer was battling out there and in the third set you could clearly tell he was giving it his all, but sometimes that is not enough. I know this is hard for some people to comprehend, but Federer is human. He just didn't have enough game to win today. I'm dissapointed, if for nothing else, it proves his detractors and supposed 'fans' right. Honestly, no one could see this coming, not even the great mediter.
The biggest factor in this match was court positioning. Djokovic was inside the baseline the whole match dicatating play and Federer played reactive tennis, which I don't know if he's ever done that on a faster surface. Federer usually controls the tempo and the match is decided on his terms, but that was certainly not the case last night. After he blew that first set, for the next 8 or 9 games, Federer was totally flat-footed and looked slow out there. Federer will play matches where he will make a lot of errors(which he didn't really do in this match), but you never see his footwork out of sorts like it was last night. He did make a bit of a push in the third, but even still Federer could not break through and Novak kept his poise.
And no, Federer is not close to being "finished" either, despite what mediter(who is a closet Fedtard) or the other Fedtards say. If Roger loses Wimbledon, then there might be some real reason for concern, but until then he is still the favorite in any non clay event he enters.
Anyway, I'm mildly surprised that this place didn't crash and explode at the conclusion of this match. :)

What are you dense? did you not realise roger served for the first set and had break points everywhere and sets points throughout the match. When you say he was outplayed in the third set, i dont call roger netting a ball being outplayed. Or hitting a forehand long as being outplayed

allanberta
01-26-2008, 03:57 AM
People should stop making excuses for Roger and deal with the reality. Djokovic is incredibly talented.
Roger played his game and loss. he played badly, he played good, to me it looked liked the same crap that i paid money to see at Flushing Meadows last year. Alot i might point out. Thought i was going to see the great Roger Federer, the punisher, the magician, the entertainer. Instead i saw steady defense. It worked then, failed miserably today. Same opponent different result. Doesn't matter. It broke, so fix it.
I think this match was probaly better, because at least i saw a few streaks of brilliance in the third set. I prefer an exciting to watch Federer that loses more than a boring to watch winning one.


Let the rivalry begin or continue or whatever

As for the people who thinks hes done and over (some of whom call themselves fans)after one loss which i might point out was very inevitable. That's just borderline ignorant. He's may no longer be the terminator but he will definately "be back".

dragons112
01-26-2008, 03:59 AM
He is still the terminatior he needs to learn to use the slice and stand back a bit. Djokovic has the same game as roger and ya cant hit heavy balls standing on the basline. That was the difference. im sure he will win the french

Marek.
01-26-2008, 04:02 AM
He is still the terminatior he needs to learn to use the slice and stand back a bit. Djokovic has the same game as roger and ya cant hit heavy balls standing on the basline. That was the difference. im sure he will win the french

Djokovic was killing his slice in the match. He needs to stop using it on returns.

HarryMan
01-26-2008, 04:18 AM
Federer was absolutely clueless when Novak (who has had problems handling Fed's slice in the past) had all answers to Federer's slice. I was shocked to see some of his approaches to fed's backhand. And to those who think fed didn't play his best (or wasn't allowed to?), neither was Djoker playing his best tennis.

It is quite clear whether Fed likes it or not, Novak has improved tremendously and has a great career ahead of him...

Fedex
01-26-2008, 04:18 AM
Finally, a GS Final without Federer! No offense, but it IS refreshing. : ) For now, it's Nole on hardcourt, Nadal on clay...any takers for grass? : :

I do wonder how he will get back for RG, considering hardcourts may be getting slower, what more on clay? This might get interesting...

Any takers for grass? Seriously?

Fedex
01-26-2008, 04:25 AM
Sampras got straighted many times at GS's in his peak and came back to win the big ones, Fed will as well. :shrug:

Sure and Sampras lost matches at AO and the USO to players he had no business losing to. It's not like Federer lost to a scrub. He lost to (currently) the second best player in the world out there.

Fedex
01-26-2008, 04:30 AM
Bit graceless from Federer.

Not Serena-esque but still not giving much respect.

Djokovic has improved many aspects of his game.

That's not even close to Serena-esque. Did you actually listen to the entire postgame press conference? Federer gave Djokovic all the credit in the world for winning and didn't make any excuses. Who care if he said he doesn't care who wins the finals? I don't think ANYONE would give a shit after they just had their title hopes dashed no more than 15 minutes prior.

Fedex
01-26-2008, 04:36 AM
Hurting is one thing.

Not recognising when your opponent has improved massively is self-deluding.

How many times have you played Djokovic? How many times has Federer played Djokovic? I think Federer's assessment of Djokovic and his game is just a tid bit accurate than yours or anyone else's on this board. But thanks for playing.

FedFan_2007
01-26-2008, 04:38 AM
Yeah Fed's supposed to watch the final and enjoy it huh? NO wonder I hate those media pricks.

FedFan_2007
01-26-2008, 04:39 AM
The only one thing that improved in this match was Djoko's clutch serving on break points/set points and he didn't tire.

Fedex
01-26-2008, 04:47 AM
I am a Fedtard since the meaning changed from having to be delusional into anyone who even slightly enjoys watching him.

I mean, Federer has 3 AO's in 5 years still, people should remember that. He played about equal to this year in 2006 I think but got lucky that he didn't play anyone who could hurt him enough except Kolya and the Russian lived up to his choker tag very well in that match. Federer shouldn't have lost in straights today but no doubt he was second best off the ground and he used his slice BH return to destroy Djokovic at the USO and the fact that the Servian was able to adapt and overcome that challenge today speaks volumes about his adaptability, his determination and overall, about his tennis talent.

He did handle the slice much better in this match, but I felt like Federer hung a lot of his slice backhands too. With Nadal's extreme grip you can sometimes get away with that, but Djokovic is far better equipped to handle it if you don't execute the shot properly.

Fedex
01-26-2008, 04:53 AM
I guess the only question remains, can Djokovic match Federer's 10 consecutive grand slam finals? Hey, he's only got 8 more to go. :)

Fedex
01-26-2008, 04:57 AM
:spit: Try not to peak before the 2008 Arse Clown contest.

The same could be said of Jogy. Both are in fine form early in the tennis season and should be the early favorites for the ACC.

FedFan_2007
01-26-2008, 05:02 AM
I'm going to win the 2008 ACC running away. It won't be even close. They'll call me "The Mighty FedFan" when it's all done.

dragons112
01-26-2008, 05:28 AM
Djokovic was killing his slice in the match. He needs to stop using it on returns.

Not the sit up slice, but the one that punches through the court/ The one which has pace and can be used as an approach shot

Fedex
01-26-2008, 05:28 AM
What are you dense? did you not realise roger served for the first set and had break points everywhere and sets points throughout the match. When you say he was outplayed in the third set, i dont call roger netting a ball being outplayed. Or hitting a forehand long as being outplayed
Djokovic was controlling atleast 75% of the baseline rallies and he was dominant on his serve games. Yes, Federer was outplayed. That doesn't mean Federer played outstanding tennis; he clearly did not. But he was not the better player in this match.

Fedex
01-26-2008, 05:31 AM
I'm going to win the 2008 ACC running away. It won't be even close. They'll call me "The Mighty FedFan" when it's all done.

Well just be sure not to overdose on meds or slit your wrists in the meantime, because that is an autmatic disqualification.

sports freak
01-26-2008, 10:40 AM
lol the King is DEAD??His just recharging his batterries!!

sports freak
01-26-2008, 10:42 AM
The only one thing that improved in this match was Djoko's clutch serving on break points/set points and he didn't tire.

Also Fed X's movement on court,slower then normal!!Was he 100% fit?

Commander Data
01-26-2008, 11:13 AM
A few observations after watching the match:

1. Roger played like a coward. Simply put: this is why he lost the match. Time and time and time again, he simply sliced the backhand back into play. This shot is effective against players like Rafa because Rafa's grip forces him to hit up, leading to a return that is in Roger's perfect strike zone. But, for a flat, power hitter like Djokovic, its a kill shot. Roger was AFRAID to come over the ball...and he paid for it. It is inexcusable that the man who can return Roddick's serve with ease, could not get a decent return back on any chances he had in the second and third sets.

2. Roger refused to attack and come in to the net. Again, a sign of fear. MAKE THE MAN BEAT YOU. Ivan Lendl had some of the best passing shots ever, and yet, Stefan Edberg had a winning record against him. Edberg usually won around 60% of the points at net...and for him, that was fine. Djokovic has NOWHERE the near the quality of passing shots as Lendl; Roger has superb volleys. BUT IF YOU ARE AFRAID, you don't venture in.

3. Roger choked again when attempting to serve out the first set. I cannot recall a single time in a big spot where Pete failed to close out a set or match.

Roger's performance was the most timid and pathetic performance I have witnessed from him in a slam. Yes, Djokovic deserves credit for taking advantage. However, the match was on Roger's racquet...the problem was that 00 Ego was afraid to exercise his license to kill.

he can only second that. Since Fed is pretty intelligent I'm confident he realizes that himself sooner or later, and does what needs to be done. I guess he will:devil:

People how claim it was mainly Nole superb play that beat Fed have one problem:

The Janko match. Fed nearly got beaten already there. What does this tells us? I don't think it means that Janko played so much better then others before against Fed. It means that Fed played way bader then in earlier Years. That is the main reason for Djokers win.

Sorry guys but someone had to say it:devil:

Eden
01-26-2008, 11:23 AM
Sure and Sampras lost matches at AO and the USO to players he had no business losing to. It's not like Federer lost to a scrub. He lost to (currently) the second best player in the world out there.

Oh come on, you should have understood the main GM rule by now that it is a mug era when Federer wins and that his opponents become GOAT when he loses ;)

Most of the stuff you get to read on GM every time Roger loses a match just proves how impressive his results have been during the last years. Any huge player loses sometimes, even during a slam.

Haven't seen the match, therefore I can't say anything about it. Congrats to Novak for reaching his second consecutive GS final.

Action Jackson
01-26-2008, 11:29 AM
Comfortable for Nole.

Petrovic
01-26-2008, 12:08 PM
Deserved win for Novak.
I think Fed X will always be dangerous but we might se more often him losing matches coz young guns like Novak, Rafa and Tsonga maybe coming to strong for Fed !
Fed is beatable and Novak will look to do it again next time !

Baghdatis72
01-26-2008, 02:34 PM
:zzz: that about concentration is pure bullshit, its gamesmaship, 90% of players do not do shits like that to concentrate and btw both nadal and djokovic many times exceed the allowed time to serve

These comments about gamemanship are just excuses from those who can't beat Rafa and Djokovic. If they exceed the allowed time then the umpire should give them a formal warning about it and if he doesn't then it's the opponent's problem.

I myself have played recreationally against players who took ages to serve but I didn't moan all the time. Instead I took the time they needed to serve to plan ahead for the point and prepare my return, which works wonders most of the time.

shotgun
01-28-2008, 11:58 AM
Impressive stuff by Djokovic, the win itself wasn't that surprising, but doing it in straight sets and beating the Guga mark!