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Who's had the better career: Hewitt or Safin. and then M.Safin or A.Roddick?

rocketassist
01-24-2008, 07:19 PM
Up to this point now, not taking into account anything they might achieve in the future.

Both players have won two grand slams and won Davis Cup, as well as a few AMS thrown in the bag.

It's an interesting debate because both men's achievements are not far off identical.

Opinions?

ReturnWinner
01-24-2008, 07:21 PM
Hewitt, he has two masters cup and finished two times as number one....

rocketassist
01-24-2008, 07:24 PM
But to be fair Safin has won two Davis Cups to Hewitt's one (can someone correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not sure if he played 1999) and more AMS titles... that's what makes this an interesting comparison.

Take into account also who both men beat en route to their titles and period spent at world no 1.

LeChuck
01-24-2008, 07:31 PM
Grand Slam Titles - Hewitt 2, Safin 2
Grand Slam Final Appearances - Hewitt 4, Safin 4
Grand Slam Semi-Final Appearances - Hewitt 8, Safin 6
Grand Slam Quarter-Final Appearances - Hewitt 14, Safin 8
Weeks Spent As World No. 1 - Hewitt 80, Safin 9
Weeks Spent In The Top 5 - Hewitt 184, Safin 141
Weeks Spent In The Top 10 - Hewitt 277, Safin 202
Years Ended As World No. 1 - Hewitt 2, Safin 0
Tennis Masters Cup Titles - Hewitt 2, Safin 0
Masters Series Titles - Hewitt 2, Safin 5
ATP Titles - Hewitt 26, Safin 15

Both players have reached the quarter-final stage at all 4 grand slams.
Hewitt's Davis Cup singles win-loss record is 30-8, and Safin's is 19-14.
I know that Hewitt is labelled by many people as a transitional no. 1, but it's worth remembering that Safin is just over a year older than Hewitt. When Hewitt was the top dog in men's tennis, Safin was part of that 'weak era'.
In my opinion Hewitt is clearly the more successful player out of the two.

Dimonator133
01-24-2008, 07:39 PM
Up to this point now, not taking into account anything they might achieve in the future.

Both players have won two grand slams and won Davis Cup, as well as a few AMS thrown in the bag.

It's an interesting debate because both men's achievements are not far off identical.

Opinions?

Hewitt

especially if you want to take into account how much each got out of their god-given talent

also as far as I'm concerned Davis Cup is pretty much erroneous to the discussion

Tommy fan
01-24-2008, 07:40 PM
Grand Slam Titles - Hewitt 2, Safin 2
Grand Slam Final Appearances - Hewitt 4, Safin 4
Grand Slam Semi-Final Appearances - Hewitt 8, Safin 6
Grand Slam Quarter-Final Appearances - Hewitt 14, Safin 8
Weeks Spent As World No. 1 - Hewitt 80, Safin 9
Weeks Spent In The Top 5 - Hewitt 184, Safin141
Weeks Spent In The Top 10 - Hewitt 277, Safin 202
Years Ended As World No. 1 - Hewitt 2, Safin 0
Tennis Masters Cup Titles - Hewitt 2, Safin 0
Masters Series Titles - Hewitt 2, Safin 5
ATP Titles - Hewitt 26, Safin 15

Both players have reached the quarter-final stage at all 4 grand slams.
Hewitt's Davis Cup singles win-loss record is 30-8, and Safin's is 19-14.
I know that Hewitt is labelled by many people as a transitional no. 1, but it's worth remembering that Safin is just over a year older than Hewitt. When Hewitt was the top dog in men's tennis, Safin was part of that 'weak era'.
In my opinion Hewitt is clearly the greater player.


After those stats, I'd say Hewiit (Although Marat is more liked :) )

Jaap
01-24-2008, 07:40 PM
Easily Hewitt.

But of course Safin will win the poll.

GonzoFed
01-24-2008, 07:41 PM
Hewitt

stebs
01-24-2008, 07:41 PM
Grand Slam Titles - Hewitt 2, Safin 2
Grand Slam Final Appearances - Hewitt 4, Safin 4
Grand Slam Semi-Final Appearances - Hewitt 8, Safin 6
Grand Slam Quarter-Final Appearances - Hewitt 14, Safin 8
Weeks Spent As World No. 1 - Hewitt 80, Safin 9
Weeks Spent In The Top 5 - Hewitt 184, Safin141
Weeks Spent In The Top 10 - Hewitt 277, Safin 202
Years Ended As World No. 1 - Hewitt 2, Safin 0
Tennis Masters Cup Titles - Hewitt 2, Safin 0
Masters Series Titles - Hewitt 2, Safin 5
ATP Titles - Hewitt 26, Safin 15

Both players have reached the quarter-final stage at all 4 grand slams.
Hewitt's Davis Cup singles win-loss record is 30-8, and Safin's is 19-14.
I know that Hewitt is labelled by many people as a transitional no. 1, but it's worth remembering that Safin is just over a year older than Hewitt. When Hewitt was the top dog in men's tennis, Safin was part of that 'weak era'.
In my opinion Hewitt is clearly the greater player.

Great stats. Safin has the AMS events over Hewitt but other than that there are no more advantages for the Russian.

Hewitt by a small margin is the better.

rocketassist
01-24-2008, 07:42 PM
I agree that Hewitt has had the stronger career, and also got the most out of his ability, but it has to be taken into account Safin's injuries have made his career stop start at times.

Jaap is right though. ;)

tennisgal_001
01-24-2008, 07:43 PM
Safin may be more talented but he didn't capitalize on it. Hewitt has definitely had a much more successful career simply because he far more consistent than Marat.

LleytonMonfils
01-24-2008, 07:45 PM
Hewitt

Krikry
01-24-2008, 07:50 PM
Hewitt has more titles but Safin is more talented and his career has been stopped because of injuries so... my heart goes to Safin :)

alfonsojose
01-24-2008, 07:54 PM
Hewitt, no contest here. Consistent no. 1 versus careless, overhyped Marat

safinalium
01-24-2008, 08:01 PM
Talent doesn't have anything to do with the achievements of a player. Obviously, Hewitt's has had a better career so far. They both have similar GS results but Marat has never won Tennis Masters Cup and has less ATP titles. ;)

alelysafina
01-24-2008, 08:04 PM
Hewitt, but I love Marat more :inlove:





:p

leng jai
01-24-2008, 09:08 PM
Safin is a mug for clowning away the 2002 AO after the gods handed him the semifinal.

Boris Franz Ecker
01-24-2008, 11:19 PM
this is no serious comparison

Better compare Roddick and Safin.

rocketassist
01-24-2008, 11:47 PM
Perhaps, but wouldn't that be a walkover for Safin (2 GS to 1 GS)

LeChuck
01-25-2008, 12:12 AM
I would take Safin's career achievements over Roddick's for the following reasons:
- He has won 2 grand slam titles while Roddick has won 1.
- He has won 5 masters series titles while Roddick has won 4.
- He has reached the QF stage at all 4 grand slams, while Roddick has never progressed beyond the 3rd round at Roland Garros.
- Safin won his masters series titles across outdoor hard, indoor hard and carpet, while Roddick's 4 masters series titles all came on outdoor hard (although the Cincy courts are fast, the Montreal ones are midpaced, and the Miami ones are slow, so that was still hugely impressive).

supertommyhaas
01-25-2008, 12:15 AM
Grand Slam Titles - Hewitt 2, Safin 2
Grand Slam Final Appearances - Hewitt 4, Safin 4
Grand Slam Semi-Final Appearances - Hewitt 8, Safin 6
Grand Slam Quarter-Final Appearances - Hewitt 14, Safin 8
Weeks Spent As World No. 1 - Hewitt 80, Safin 9
Weeks Spent In The Top 5 - Hewitt 184, Safin 141
Weeks Spent In The Top 10 - Hewitt 277, Safin 202
Years Ended As World No. 1 - Hewitt 2, Safin 0
Tennis Masters Cup Titles - Hewitt 2, Safin 0
Masters Series Titles - Hewitt 2, Safin 5
ATP Titles - Hewitt 26, Safin 15

Both players have reached the quarter-final stage at all 4 grand slams.
Hewitt's Davis Cup singles win-loss record is 30-8, and Safin's is 19-14.
I know that Hewitt is labelled by many people as a transitional no. 1, but it's worth remembering that Safin is just over a year older than Hewitt. When Hewitt was the top dog in men's tennis, Safin was part of that 'weak era'.
In my opinion Hewitt is clearly the more successful player out of the two.

safins best is better than hewitts best. But by going by these stats it has to probably be hewitt.

Bibberz
01-25-2008, 12:21 AM
Safin has more natural talent and his best is better than Hewitt's best, but Safin only conjures his best stuff 1/1000 times.

Let's not forget that Hewitt had that string of like six slams (or whatever) where he got eliminated by the eventual champion. He's been far more consistent throughout his career.

Burrow
01-25-2008, 12:47 AM
Hewitt but Safin has had too many injuries, think of what he could have done if he never had torn ligaments when he was at number 1. He has brought it up so many times in interviews. Just makes me wonder what he could have achieved without injuries, whatever he does in the future I will still admire the guy. I will never have a connection to any other player again like I did Safin.

Burrow
01-25-2008, 12:49 AM
Safin is a mug for clowning away the 2002 AO after the gods handed him the semifinal.

He should have won that, pretty disgraceful actually, if 3 slams to 2 then Safin would have had the better career I suppose, well in my eyes, but the idiot had to blow it...

Fedex
01-25-2008, 04:56 AM
This has been done many times before. Hewitt, in my opinion, has clearly had the better career. I'd put Safin ahead of Roddick, but if Roddick were to win another slam, he is clearly above Marat.
For all of Safin's talents, he hasn't had an overly spectacular career.

Robshots
01-25-2008, 05:02 AM
I defintiely say Hewitt particularly on the basis of when he won the Masters series and was crowned World #1. This was gained by hard work and fighting out tough matches. I much prefer to watch both Safin and Roddick play. However watching Marat can be frustrating as he seem to have so much ability at his disposal (more than Hewitt) but not always thee will to use it to the full potential. Hewitt seems to extract more from the talents he has and never goes down without fighting. I'd also say Roddick has had a better career than Safin so far but only marginally. I love watching both of these guys play, especially at the peak of thei form.

Marek.
01-25-2008, 05:11 AM
1. Hewitt
2. Safin
3. Roddick

Allure
01-25-2008, 05:19 AM
Hewitt

Renaud
01-25-2008, 08:58 AM
1) Tsonga
2) Hewitt
3) Safin
4) Roddick