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Fumus
06-14-2004, 02:10 PM
I don't care what happens as long as I see...

1. Andre make the qrts. :eek:

2. Henman vs. Federer(preferably with Federer winning, so we can see no. 3) :devil:

3. Federer vs. Roddick(preferably with Roddick winning a long match where both play their best) :cool:

4.That fat naked streaker dude, interrupts a women’s match again. I watched that last year and it was sooo funny!!(You know he gets paid to do that?. He paints ads on himself and the companies pay him)

5. Robby Ginepri, Mardy Fish, James Blake(is he still alive?), Vince Spadea and Taylor Dent all surpass previous years results and the Americans are all around past round 3. :D


Good Luck Andy! You are on track for your second Grand Slam! :worship:

Havok
06-14-2004, 02:19 PM
:woohoo: go Andy

Fumus
06-14-2004, 02:21 PM
Naldo, what do you want to see?(as compared to my list?)

gravity
06-14-2004, 03:49 PM
I don't care what happens as long as I see...
4.That fat naked streaker dude, interrupts a women’s match again. I watched that last year and it was sooo funny!!(You know he gets paid to do that?. He paints ads on himself and the companies pay him)
:worship:

This one will kinda happen if Guillermo Coria gets past the second round of Wimbledon. I vowed on his forum here to run around Wimbledon all day naked (or as long as it takes for the police to arrest me) if he does gets to the last 32. This promise could turn out to be far worse than the one Mcenroe made at Roland Garros about Henman. :o

So anyway Go Andy!!! :worship: Is it possible Coria will be unseeded and will draw Roddick in round one or two? :p

Deboogle!.
06-14-2004, 03:56 PM
LOL Good title Skyler:)

I just want Andy to play well. If he loses I want him to lose to someone who just plays better. I'd like to see him not in Henman's half but I know there's a 50/50 of that happening and if they both make it to the Semis and Tim beats him then that'd be ok :)

And I want it to be a normal tourney, none of the crazy shit that happened at RG please LOL

Chrisie
06-14-2004, 04:44 PM
gravity, be warned, Ferrero made something like quarters last year...

MisterQ
06-14-2004, 05:20 PM
I would like to see Henman in the final --- the atmosphere would be INSANE.

I also think a Federer/Roddick rematch could be exciting if Andy plays well.

I want Andre to win his first match. (And the six after that too, lol). ;)

gravity
06-14-2004, 05:21 PM
LOL that makes me feel so much better. If I have to do it, I'll have myself painted with the words menstennisforums.com so the forums can benefit in some free advertising from my moment of stupidity. :lol: But I shouldn't worry until after I see the all-important draw, right?

MisterQ: I don't think the atmosphere would match that classic Wimbledon final between Pat and Goran.

MisterQ
06-14-2004, 05:29 PM
I agree, it will be hard to match that 2001 final, especially because that was on a Monday, and the crowd was so much more vocal than usual.

would be nice to have a close final like that again :)

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-14-2004, 05:36 PM
I hate how people call Andy the duck as some sort of insult, because I think it is sooooo cute! He's our duck!

GO WIMBLEDUCK!! I really am going to shut-up and have a lotta faith! I want him to win sooooo bad. And he will!

MissPovaFan
06-14-2004, 05:37 PM
I reckon a rematch of last year is most probably on the cards and would be the best possible final - hopefully with Roddick performing a lot better!

tangerine_dream
06-14-2004, 05:42 PM
I hate how people call Andy the duck as some sort of insult, because I think it is sooooo cute! He's our duck!

I love how we hijacked a formerly insulting nickname and turned it into a symbol of empowerment. Aah! The power of Duck Love! :rocker2:

And MisterQ, I agree with you on all three wishes. ;)

star
06-14-2004, 05:58 PM
DUCK POWER!!!

Duckies Rule!! :haha: :haha:

I think I might have to get Tangy to make up the sinister duck as an avatar for wimbledon.... you know.... the one in the leather jacket. :)

Fumus
06-14-2004, 06:33 PM
LOL Good title Skyler:)

I just want Andy to play well. If he loses I want him to lose to someone who just plays better. I'd like to see him not in Henman's half but I know there's a 50/50 of that happening and if they both make it to the Semis and Tim beats him then that'd be ok :)

And I want it to be a normal tourney, none of the crazy shit that happened at RG please LOL

I have yet to make a tourny title, maybe it will yeild some good luck.. :)

I havn't been in the forums as much as I used to, so I kinda feel like I have fallen out of the group! :eek: :sad: This week, I will be around to cheer Andy for every match!


This one will kinda happen if Guillermo Coria gets past the second round of Wimbledon. I vowed on his forum here to run around Wimbledon all day naked (or as long as it takes for the police to arrest me) if he does gets to the last 32. This promise could turn out to be far worse than the one Mcenroe made at Roland Garros about Henman.

So anyway Go Andy!!! Is it possible Coria will be unseeded and will draw Roddick in round one or two?

Well if you look anything like the girl in your avatar, I doubt anyone would mind your streaking. :devil:

Coria unseeded? I think not and if he is, I will feel bad for him having to face Andy in the first round. ;)


I would like to see Henman in the final --- the atmosphere would be INSANE.

I also think a Federer/Roddick rematch could be exciting if Andy plays well.

I want Andre to win his first match. (And the six after that too, lol).

Good list list Q!

I would like to see Henman win "the big W", that would be great for the sport. If Roddick gets knocked out, I will root for Timmy "The Hustler" Henman.

If Roddick is in the final and it's Henman vs. Federer in the semis. I dk, I guess I am torn, it would just be a "popcorn match" as either way I don't care as long one has to face Roddick in the final.

Even more than Roddick, Henman, or anyone else winning Wimbly, I will be rooting for Andre. If Andre could win another Wimbly that would be even more incredible for the sport than Henman winning Wimbledon, I will be cheering Andre all the way, even if means cheering against Andy!! :cool:

Havok
06-14-2004, 06:37 PM
:ras: not much selection in your list there Skyler! I would chose between the first 3 options.

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-14-2004, 06:54 PM
I think Tangy needs to make an avatar of Andy with a caption that says: AFLAC!

Fumus
06-14-2004, 07:04 PM
lol, it's not a poll, it's all the things I would like to see, my dream tourny if you will! I was asking you what yours was..

PinkFeatherBoa
06-14-2004, 07:14 PM
I would like to see Henman in the final --- the atmosphere would be INSANE.

I also think a Federer/Roddick rematch could be exciting if Andy plays well.

I want Andre to win his first match.

Those are all good wishes. My main wish would be a Roddick/Henman final, especially as I would be there, but either of them in the final would do. ;)

Go ducky at Wimbledon.:woohoo:

zoltan83
06-14-2004, 07:19 PM
:worship: I like the title :D

Go Andy! Go !

And I hope Xavier and Olivier will play well too! As Henman, Hewitt, Ferrero and Marat!

Deboogle!.
06-14-2004, 07:23 PM
Mrs. Guga, great idea for an Av!! LOL!!!

and PinkFeatherBoa...... your Av OMG LMFAO that's reaching tangy territory :worship: :p

Deboogle!.
06-14-2004, 07:38 PM
awwwwwwwww it's our first Wimby article.... from the wimby site. Sounds like a new interview, but anyway. See the part I bolded :)
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Roddick Ready for Wimbledon
Written by Alix Ramsay
wimbledon.org
Monday, June 14, 2004


First things first: don't mention the 'S' word. Should you have the good fortune to speak to Andy Roddick, try not to mention Pete Sampras. It is not that Roddick has anything against Pistol Pete - indeed, he shows nothing but respect and admiration for the great man - it is just that he has spent most of his life being mentioned in comparison with, in relation to or simply in the same sentence as, Sampras. And it is getting a little tiresome. It is the price a chap has to pay for being the extremely promising junior who grew up to become a Grand Slam champion and the world No. 1 by the age of 21.

Roddick's rise to greatness happened almost overnight. After his first round loss at the French Open last year, he joined forces with Brad Gilbert and suddenly started winning. And winning. For a remarkable six months spell, Roddick could do no wrong as he won at Queen's and Indianapolis, took the Masters Series trophies in Montreal and Cincinnati and then topped it all off with victory over Juan Carlos Ferrero in the US Open final. From there on, it was only a matter of time before he took over pole position in the rankings. As honeymoon periods with a new coach went, it took some beating.

"We were lucky that we clicked so fast," he said. "I wasn't expecting that, I was expecting almost like a rebuilding process and then things started happening right away and we just kind of went with it. Brad's thought was let's not focus so much on your deficiencies as opposed to what you can do with your game now and take it into your opponent's weaknesses. And so that kind of made things fresh in my mind and really excited me."

The problem is that Roddick now has to match everything he did last year to protect his place in the pecking order and then go one better to improve. And playing better than he did against Roger Federer in the Wimbledon semi-final last year would take a superhuman effort. Sure enough, he lost the match but the crowd gave both men a standing ovation after three sets of guts and bravado from Roddick and sheer brilliance from Federer.

One year on, Roddick is an older and wiser competitor. Although he retained his Stella Artois title at Queen’s Club and won the Masters Series title in Miami, two titles so far this year is not great by his standards - but it does not matter. That is what winning a grand slam title can do for a chap's confidence.

"I felt that I was playing really good tennis last year," he said. "Now I feel that it's not surprising if I'm playing that well whereas, last year at Wimbledon, I was kind of like: OK, I'm playing great, let's keep going. This year I might go in and I could be playing badly but still think that I could pull it together."


The US Open is, for any American player, the tournament to win but Roddick has always had a soft spot for SW19. He grew up watching The Championships on TV which, thanks to the five hour time difference between London and east coast of America, is billed as "Breakfast at Wimbledon". The business of playing on grass took some getting used to - although he reckons that he is getting the hang of it now - but it was the tradition, the history and the atmosphere of the place, and Centre Court in particular, that could have been his downfall. Luckily, he had someone to guide him as he prepared to make his debut on the most famous court in the world.

"Actually," Roddick remembered, "Doug Spreen, the guy who is my trainer now but who worked for the ATP before, he said: when you get out there, look around in the warm up and when you are on your way out there because you don't want to be in awe of it during the match. That's pretty good advice."

Roddick learned his lesson quickly and has never looked back since. The thought that he is one of the favourites for the title this year brings a smile to his face - "I like the way you're talking," he said - but even though he won at Queen’s this year, he doesn’t feel he is at his best.

"I felt like early on in the year I was knocking on the door of playing really well," he said. "Then with winning Miami and playing the Davis Cup, I feel like I got over that hurdle. So I feel like I maybe took it up another level there.

His success at Queen’s suggests everything is clicking into place at the right time for Roddick to make a serious assault on the Wimbledon title. The omens are good: this year, the Men’s Final is scheduled to take place on 4th July – American Independence Day. The last three times that the Men’s Final had been played on this date an American has won the title: Connors in 1982 and Sampras in 1993 and 1999 (the 1988 final between Becker and Edberg had to be completed on Monday 4th July after rain interrupted play on the Sunday). Perhaps more importantly, he has a thundering serve and muscular game (he recently broke his own world record with a 153mph serve), and he looks comfortable on grass. Roddick will be a very difficult man to stop at this year’s Championships and could well go all the way to claiming the Men’s Singles trophy.

star
06-14-2004, 08:24 PM
Those are all good wishes. My main wish would be a Roddick/Henman final, especially as I would be there, but either of them in the final would do. ;)

Go ducky at Wimbledon.:woohoo:

Fantastic Avatar.

Mean ol' Andy painting Juliette up like that and getting her ready for the 4th of July. ;)

star
06-14-2004, 08:35 PM
http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/MCG/FD1001.jpg

Havok
06-14-2004, 09:05 PM
Why can't people learn damn stats when they use them in articles. Andy has 3 titles this year, which is the most titles he's ever had heading into Wimbledon. Anyways nice little write-up they did. and nice avatar pinkfeatherboa:haha:

Havok
06-14-2004, 09:06 PM
oh and Skyler I'll tell you what I want to happen:p

1.Agassi gets passed the 1st round(when he does that, then we can focus on the later parts of this tournamenr;))

2. Dokic wins a match. It's been way too long since she's won just one match :sad:

3. Andy wins the whole thing:banana:

4. All top 8 seeds advance to the quarterfinals:eek: that would rock:rocker2:

Deboogle!.
06-14-2004, 09:12 PM
4. All top 8 seeds advance to the quarterfinals:eek: that would rock:rocker2:

:eek: That would involve Guile, and most likely Ferrero and Moya to all make the QF.... :lol:

Havok
06-14-2004, 09:17 PM
exactly why i put the :eek:

gravity
06-14-2004, 09:26 PM
:eek: That would involve Guile, and most likely Ferrero and Moya to all make the QF.... :lol:

And me running around Wimbledon naked for a day. :devil:

Fumus
06-14-2004, 09:27 PM
:eek: That would involve Guile, and most likely Ferrero and Moya to all make the QF.... :lol:

Hey this is a dream Wimbledon! You can't break a dream!! lol

SPOOKY :eek: :eek: SKYLER PREDICTIONS

I have some spooky Skyler predictions to make...

1) According to the Psychic network, Andy will reach 155mph on his serve by the end of Wimbly....woooo :eek: *whhooosh of fog*

2) I rubbed my crystal ball and found out Agassi will make the semis ...maybe more (crystal ball fogged up)

3) Will Lleyton Hewitt make a slam final for the first time since winning Wimbly in 2002? The Magic Eight Ball says "outlook not so good"

4) What do the Tarot cards says about Roger repeating? They say the moon is aligned with neptune...interpretation:"It would take a cosmic disturbance not to!"

Is Andy that cosmic disturbance? Tune in next time to the psychic prediction show with your host Skyler O'Shay!!! wwaaa-waaaa-waaaa-waaaa :eek:

Havok
06-14-2004, 09:47 PM
:haha::haha::bigcry:

you're too much Skyler:rocker2:

cristina
06-14-2004, 10:17 PM
Kick some butts, Andy! :banana:

PinkFeatherBoa
06-15-2004, 12:56 AM
Hey this is a dream Wimbledon! You can't break a dream!! lol

SPOOKY :eek: :eek: SKYLER PREDICTIONS

I have some spooky Skyler predictions to make...

1) According to the Psychic network, Andy will reach 155mph on his serve by the end of Wimbly....woooo :eek: *whhooosh of fog*

2) I rubbed my crystal ball and found out Agassi will make the semis ...maybe more (crystal ball fogged up)

3) Will Lleyton Hewitt make a slam final for the first time since winning Wimbly in 2002? The Magic Eight Ball says "outlook not so good"

4) What do the Tarot cards says about Roger repeating? They say the moon is aligned with neptune...interpretation:"It would take a cosmic disturbance not to!"

Is Andy that cosmic disturbance? Tune in next time to the psychic prediction show with your host Skyler O'Shay!!! wwaaa-waaaa-waaaa-waaaa :eek:

LOL Fumus, nice one.

Oh and thanks for the comments on the ava guys, yours all rock too!:)

hitchhiker
06-15-2004, 06:58 AM
GO RODDICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

heya
06-15-2004, 07:45 AM
I enjoyed hitch's roddick for wimbledon thread. Highly devilish.
The haters and fans either understood the thread or got really angry. Isy tried his best to insult, just like his pal GWH (Nils). Talk about taking things too seriously!
Protect Godfed! :lol:

hitchhiker
06-15-2004, 08:10 AM
I enjoyed hitch's roddick for wimbledon thread. Highly devilish.
The haters and fans either understood the thread or got really angry. Isy tried his best to insult, just like his pal GWH (Nils). Talk about taking things too seriously!
Protect Godfed! :lol:


and the only reason i took it over the top is because most people do it about federer and no one blinks yet when there is a roddick thread everyone jumps on me.
i dont see why federer is regarded so much above roddick, he had a good 6 months but lets not forget who finished the year #1 and is a year younger :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
06-15-2004, 08:53 AM
I enjoyed hitch's roddick for wimbledon thread. Highly devilish.
The haters and fans either understood the thread or got really angry. Isy tried his best to insult, just like his pal GWH (Nils). Talk about taking things too seriously!
Protect Godfed! :lol:

Ah! heya one of my favourite posters of incomprehensible garbage, thank you for mentioning me in this forum and I am incredibly honoured, and my week and my year has been made by this small gesture, thank you heya, this is where I admit that I was wrong and you are one of the best there is and it was silly of me to disregard all of your quality posts.

Hail heya :worship: :worship:

Action Jackson
06-15-2004, 09:03 AM
I would like Roddick to win Wimbledon and there be absolutely no doubts surrounding the circumstances (something that doesn't need going into). I don't mean about lucky matches, it's very rare that for anyone to win a Slam, without a slice of luck.

He has the game, the capabilities to do so, it's amazing just a few weeks he goes from an ordinary player, back to showing some of the form he did last year at this time where he begun the great run of form which helped him to #1.

Originally posted hitchhiker
I dont see why federer is regarded so much above roddick, he had a good 6 months but lets not forget who finished the year #1 and is a year younger

Great troll on GM I must say, though do you want me to answer that. All I will say is #1 longer, 2 TMS titles and a final on his worst surface and has won major events away from his continent.

I am not trying to start an argument at all, of course there is time for Roddick to improve his results elsewhere and on other surfaces, that is not the case at the moment.

heya
06-15-2004, 09:13 AM
I hope one of my garbage-free threads won't get deleted.

Let me remind everyone that Andy's overrated! *checks calendar

Love,
Leader of I Love Pushing Buttons Cult,
Nils :tears::sad:

Happy April Fools Day again!

MaitaBaby
06-15-2004, 09:31 AM
Good luck Andy!

Action Jackson
06-15-2004, 09:31 AM
I hope one of my garbage-free threads won't get deleted.

Let me remind everyone that Andy's overrated! *checks calendar

Love,
Leader of I Love Pushing Buttons Cult,
Nils :tears::sad:

Happy April Fools Day again!

It would be funny if that was my actual name, and yes ' the genius, who I didn't know was genius until recently' heya. I said he was overrated and still think that to an extent, but then again being the genius that you are, that you should have worked that out in spite of the complimentary things I said about Roddick.

Ok, back on topic, if he wins Wimbledon and doesn't get 6 retirements ( very unlikely), then he deserves the championship that's all there is to it, because he was the best player at the end of the 2 weeks and was able to triumph when it counts, that's irrespective of what I think of him personally.

hitchhiker
06-15-2004, 09:36 AM
I said he was overrated and still think that to an extent, but then again being the genius that you are, that you should have worked that out in spite of the complimentary things I said about Roddick.


federer and henman are over rated, roddick will win many slams


Ok, back on topic, if he wins Wimbledon and doesn't get 6 retirements ( very unlikely), then he deserves the championship that's all there is to it, because he was the best player at the end of the 2 weeks and was able to triumph when it counts, that's irrespective of what I think of him personally.

he already did that last year at the us open you frankfurt sausage

and it wont matter if you give roddick credit, if you or anyone else on this board cant see him as a top player then thats their loss

Action Jackson
06-15-2004, 09:54 AM
federer and henman are over rated, roddick will win many slams


I see you chose to ignore that Roddick still has not come to terms with his worst surface at all? I can't speak for every Roddick fan, but I imagine that most of them would like him to improve his record on clay and win TMS events and a Slam outside of North America, to solidify his status along with the best players who have won and win everywhere.

he already did that last year at the us open you frankfurt sausage

and it wont matter if you give roddick credit, if you or anyone else on this board cant see him as a top player then thats their loss

Of course the circumstances weren't a bit unusual at the US Open and they have been described in detail and don't need going over, that is not a factor at Wimbledon and the other Slams. Since when was it said that he wasn't a top player?

Lalitha
06-15-2004, 10:22 AM
I am not trying to start an argument at all, of course there is time for Roddick to improve his results elsewhere and on other surfaces, that is not the case at the moment.

Yes. He participates mostly in the tournaments that's being held in US.

hitchhiker
06-15-2004, 10:29 AM
I see you chose to ignore that Roddick still has not come to terms with his worst surface at all? I can't speak for every Roddick fan, but I imagine that most of them would like him to improve his record on clay and win TMS events and a Slam outside of North America, to solidify his status along with the best players who have won and win everywhere.


if roddick keeps winning wimbledon/us open titles then i dont care what happens on sand, the dirt lovers will always be superior there anyway



Of course the circumstances weren't a bit unusual at the US Open and they have been described in detail and don't need going over, that is not a factor at Wimbledon and the other Slams. Since when was it said that he wasn't a top player?

there were no corcumstances at the USOPEN, roddick won and was by far the best player. roddick is not over rated, he is underrated by the people with their head in federers rear end.

Boludo
06-15-2004, 10:54 AM
Yes. He participates mostly in the tournaments that's being held in US.

It makes sense to an extent, that is where he is the most comfortable and where he will get most of his points, therefore there are enough big tournaments to keep him there, though I was a bit disappointed that he didn't challenge himself on the clay.

Originally posted by hitchhiker
if roddick keeps winning wimbledon/us open titles then i dont care what happens on sand, the dirt lovers will always be superior there anyway

Well done xenophobe, considering that all Slams are important, and any great has regrets about the ones that they didn't win Agassi excepted. Tennis is not just about grass and hardcourts, players need to challenge themselves on all surfaces.


there were no corcumstances at the USOPEN, roddick won and was by far the best player. roddick is not over rated, he is underrated by the people with their head in federers rear end.

Considering the Americans could put a man on the moon, but can't dry more than one court and circumstances that led to other players being disadvantaged because of not having the right nationality, the US Open last year forgot that it was one the great international tennis events, hopefully that's changed for the better.

I don't like Federer much, but you can't compare their records evenly at the moment, as was said before 2 TMS titles on the worst surface, a final as well, 1 more Slam, 1 more TMC. When he starts to achieve all round consistency on a variety of surfaces, then the level of respect from some of the more cynical people will increase.

hitchhiker
06-15-2004, 11:16 AM
Well done xenophobe, considering that all Slams are important, and any great has regrets about the ones that they didn't win Agassi excepted. Tennis is not just about grass and hardcourts, players need to challenge themselves on all surfaces.


if roddick succeeds on hardcourts and grass i wont cry about him in the desert. if he wins one FO that is good enough.



Considering the Americans could put a man on the moon, but can't dry more than one court and circumstances that led to other players being disadvantaged because of not having the right nationality, the US Open last year forgot that it was one the great international tennis events, hopefully that's changed for the better.


your full of crap, all the slams do it to favor home players. Didnt you see at the FO the frogs not putting the cover over the court while raining so that Mutis would get every bit of extra advantage as a damp court damages roddick.


I don't like Federer much, but you can't compare their records evenly at the moment, as was said before 2 TMS titles on the worst surface, a final as well, 1 more Slam, 1 more TMC. When he starts to achieve all round consistency on a variety of surfaces, then the level of respect from some of the more cynical people will increase.

you cant conclude that federer is far better either considering that roddick is younger and less experienced

heya
06-15-2004, 11:25 AM
GeorgeWHitler
Lurker.

No one loves me, whenever I try to talk to someone they leave. I even had my monthly shower and they have left me.

Ilhame
« Reply #215 on: Apr 18th, 2004, 09:04am »
Nils
So you caught me lurking
http://rebecca.proboards12.com/index.cgi?board=shooting&num=1082042235&action=display&start=205

hitchhiker
06-15-2004, 11:29 AM
http://rebecca.proboards12.com/index.cgi?board=shooting&num=1082042235&action=display&start=205

what is that place?

heya
06-15-2004, 12:02 PM
Rebecca's tennis forum :lol:
Some wise owls spend all day talking about posts at MTF.
These "NON-hypocrites" nit pick MTF posts a lot.

Nils started posting@MTF about Andy soon after Andy's USO win. What a coincidence!
:haha:

star
06-15-2004, 12:57 PM
Hitchhiker and Heya, we've got a nice forum here that is pretty much hate free. I'd appreciate it if we could keep it that way. If you want to start wars, I for one, would appreciate it if you did it in GM and didn't bring it in here.

It's bad enought to read all this sort of crap on GM. I think most of us have worked hard to keep Andy's forum a fun place where people are positive, light hearted, silly, and friendly. Now this thread has been turned into another thread that you could see on GM.

Personally, I don't care if small, vindictive, jealous want to insult me and make fun of me behind my back. I don't want that negative energy around me and really don't want to hear about it. This is a place I come to have a good time and not wage wars and have extended arguments. There's plenty of that on GM. If that's what you want, please take it out there.

Sorry if you think this is rude. And, it's just my opinion. Maybe others who post here think differently.

heya
06-15-2004, 01:18 PM
I know you're not being rude and I'm not trying to cause trouble. Andy's forum is always read, and if some fans want to know what non-fans plan to say to them, they should know.
That way, some of us won't be surprised and feel even more insulted.
If you know what someone will say, you either joke with him or ignore him.
Most Andy fans here are intelligent enough to know when people are kidding and when they're serious.

merle
06-15-2004, 01:22 PM
Hi star, I'm with you 100%! It's been a fun place here and I'd love too see it stay like this! And back to the topic:

GOOD LUCK TO ANDY AT WIMBY!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bigclap: :bigclap: :yippee: :bounce:

hitchhiker
06-15-2004, 01:29 PM
Sorry if you think this is rude. And, it's just my opinion. Maybe others who post here think differently.

fine, i wont argue here anymore.
but why didnt you address georgewhitler as well?

Fumus
06-15-2004, 01:39 PM
[Hitchiker can only hope to improve]

lol..

star
06-15-2004, 01:43 PM
fine, i wont argue here anymore.
but why didnt you address georgewhitler as well?

Because I like you and Heya better. :lol:

star
06-15-2004, 01:44 PM
I know you're not being rude and I'm not trying to cause trouble. Andy's forum is always read, and if some fans want to know what non-fans plan to say to them, they should know.
That way, some of us won't be surprised and feel even more insulted.
If you know what someone will say, you either joke with him or ignore him.
Most Andy fans here are intelligent enough to know when people are kidding and when they're serious.

You know I love you, Heya. You are a unique and precious person. :hug: :hug:

Havok
06-15-2004, 02:12 PM
Geaux Andy at Wimbledon

Fumus
06-15-2004, 02:27 PM
Skylers :eek: :eek: Spooky Wimbledon Predictions

1. I guess my crystal ball isn't working so great, *crash of lightning* I saw Agassi making the semis but, obviously that wasn't true. Wait! It was just foggy! That wasn't Agassi, it was David Nalbandian, man how did I confuse the two!? *whhoooshh of smoke*

2. I read my horoscopes this morning and they said "Pieces you will have a four star day. Some fortune and love with come your way in a business interaction. Serving well is the key to your USTA match tonight and oh yea, Andy Roddick will beat Roger Federer if they meet in the final." Wow, horoscopes these days are soo vague! *ghostly moans*

3. I asked Miss Cleo, what she could tell me about Wimbledon, and she said "Guillermo Coria, has sum’ dark storm clouds a hangin’ over him hunny, and dat’ storm will notabe’ lettin’ him pass to da’ second round, mon!” Then she told me my wife cheating on me...(I am not married :eek: )
*Thunder and a flash of lightning*

4. I waved my magic wand over the Wimbly homepage and magically a draw appeared, I saw Andy Roddick was in Tim Henman’s half!! *wwooo ghostly moan* Will Roddick make it pass Henman? I will ask the mystic troll Hitchhiker next time on Spooky Predictions with Skyler O'Shay! Waaa--waaaaa-waaaa

Deboogle!.
06-15-2004, 02:46 PM
star I totally agree. You know how hard I've worked to ignore these people and it's taken me a long time but I've finally done it and I'd love to see this happy forum free of that :bs: :)

star
06-15-2004, 02:48 PM
:lol:

Yay, Bunkie!!

Deboogle!.
06-15-2004, 02:54 PM
:) and now we're going to pick strawberries in celebration of Wimbleduck! See you guys later ;):):kiss:

tangerine_dream
06-15-2004, 04:47 PM
Hi hitchhiker :wavey: You're welcome to post here but the Queen's Brainwashed Cultists (eg, GWH, Seng and some others) are trolls who are completely obsessed with us. Right now, they are running back and forth between their cult queen and mtf to trash you behind your back because they are cowards and desperately want her approval. She feeds her loyal cult sheep scooby snacks as a way to thank them for their two-faced cowardice. It's quite pathetic to watch in action, really. You can only pity them. :lol:

Anyway, enjoy the Andy forum and play nice! :dance:

and now we're going to pick strawberries in celebration of Wimbleduck! See you guys later

Ooh! Pick some for meeeeee! :banana:

Havok
06-15-2004, 05:05 PM
I'm looking forward to Skyler's crystal ball predictions :scared:

tangerine_dream
06-15-2004, 05:19 PM
Fumus, you crack me up with your crystal ball stuff. :haha:

And is it my imagination or are people going kinda bonkers lately waiting for the Wimby seeding and draw to come out? It's like everyone's holding their breath; as if careers and lives depended on such things. Very strange. :scratch:

How's the Smashcourt game going, Naldosox? How many matches have you lost by now? ;)

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-15-2004, 05:32 PM
Ooou, Tangy, you're a hard ass! That's hot

Havok
06-15-2004, 05:41 PM
I'm not losing anymore :sad: I bagel everyone, but at least the rallies are long. Doubles is freakin hard, so I'll be playing that to keep me intense while I play it :banana:

Fumus
06-15-2004, 06:05 PM
Fumus, you crack me up with your crystal ball stuff. :haha:

And is it my imagination or are people going kinda bonkers lately waiting for the Wimby seeding and draw to come out? It's like everyone's holding their breath; as if careers and lives depended on such things. Very strange. :scratch:

How's the Smashcourt game going, Naldosox? How many matches have you lost by now? ;)

You must wait for tommorow's prediction, *muuuuwwhhhooo-hahahaha*(Evil laugh)

tangerine_dream
06-15-2004, 06:13 PM
Andy's determined expression here is great. I wouldn't want to see that look if I were playing him. :eek:

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/writers/jon_wertheim/06/14/mailbag.0614/tx_roddick0614_ap.jpg

Havok
06-15-2004, 06:31 PM
:scared: I wouldn't wanna see that face if I were near Andy beriod.

Havok
06-15-2004, 06:31 PM
and I just love seeing those blue strings again :cool:

Deboogle!.
06-15-2004, 06:36 PM
I love it. He had that intensity all week long. I hope he keeps it up :)

zoltan83
06-15-2004, 06:54 PM
:) and now we're going to pick strawberries in celebration of Wimbleduck! See you guys later ;):):kiss:

Strawberries on a pizza :eek:
I know that English food is sometimes strange but I'm not sure that it's a good :p

Nishy
06-15-2004, 06:59 PM
I like it too. I feel his eyes and face expression tell he is motivated.
When I watched the match against Mutis in French Open, he seemed he didn't mind to lose and I was little disappointed so it is nice to see his gut and intensity coming back again.

Go Andy in Wimbledon!

star
06-15-2004, 07:09 PM
Strawberries on a pizza :eek:
I know that English food is sometimes strange but I'm not sure that it's a good :p


:haha: :haha: :haha:

Fumus
06-15-2004, 07:19 PM
Yea, the blue mains look pretty cool in that racquet!!

The scary part about that picture isn't Andy's face Bunk, it's the fact that he's prepping for our favorite shot, the backhand slice :lol:!!

star
06-15-2004, 07:29 PM
I want a new career as a professional stringer who goes from ATP tournament to ATP tournament. :)

No no no... I want a new career as a masseur for the ATP!!

Deboogle!.
06-15-2004, 07:51 PM
Nnnnooooooooo no strawberries on the pizza :p But they're so yummy. my dad and I picked 4 and a half pounds :lick:

and LMFAO about the slice..... god I hate it!!!!!

Fumus
06-15-2004, 07:54 PM
haha!! The slice is mean on grass!! LMFAO

Deboogle!.
06-15-2004, 08:02 PM
yea yea yea I know a slice is good to use on grass and I know it's good that Andy's is better now, but I still hate it!

Deboogle!.
06-15-2004, 08:10 PM
That Stoke Park exhibition match Andy's playing is tomorrow.

He's playing Stepanek :lol: how is he on grass? Oh well doesn't really matter Andy's had enough matches against good grass players:)

Fumus
06-15-2004, 08:21 PM
yea yea yea I know a slice is good to use on grass and I know it's good that Andy's is better now, but I still hate it!

Well if he could get a deep pentrating low bouncing slice than shure. Otherwise he should only do it once and awhile to throw is opponent off. He's using it pretty regularly right now.. :rolleyes:

Fumus
06-15-2004, 08:22 PM
Roddick vs. Radek lol:

tangerine_dream
06-15-2004, 08:42 PM
Quite a grasp on the grass game
By KEITH NIEBUHR, Times Staff Writer
Published June 15, 2004

Of those on the Roger Federer bandwagon, ESPN commentator Cliff Drysdale was among the first. A little more than a year ago, Drysdale called the rising Swiss star "the most complete player since Rod Laver."

It seemed like a stretch. At the time, Federer had yet to win a major. But, as Drysdale recently noted, "He's everything I said he was and now he's proved it. He's a good one."

Next week, Federer, 22, returns to Wimbledon, the site of his first great triumph. On his way to the 2003 title, Federer dropped one set. He has since moved to the top of the world rankings (he is almost 1,000 points ahead of No. 2 Andy Roddick) and picked up another major, this season's Australian Open.

His 57-minute victory Sunday over Tampa's Mardy Fish (6-0, 6-3) at the Gerry Weber Open in Halle, Germany, was his 16th career ATP title. He enters Wimbledon having won 17 straight matches on grass.

"I think playing here was the best preparation for Wimbledon," Federer said.

A couple of interesting footnotes: Federer does not have an agent or coach. He even books his practice partners. And his accessibility has made him a favorite at ATP Tour offices in Ponte Vedra.

"The guy is great," said the tour's J.J. Carter. "Roger understands his responsibility as the No. 1 player in the world when it comes to the fans, the media and sponsors."

ASKING ANDRE: Andre Agassi, the dean of American professionals, has one eye on his game and the other on the field. In a recent interview with the Times, the 34-year-old star gave his thoughts about a few rising American stars.

On Roddick: "He's a great talent. He has tremendous fire on the court. He's great to the fans. (Coach Brad Gilbert) has done a great job with him."

On Fish: "He's a real talent, no question. He has a beautiful serve, a big backhand and he has good hands when he comes to the net. And he's learning to play the game smarter. He's got a good future."

On James Blake: "I've spent a lot of time with James. He's a phenomenal athlete. To me, James is just a first-class competitor and person. I've enjoyed James a lot over the years."

YOUTH MOVEMENT: Maria Sharapova's 4-6, 6-2, 6-1 victory Sunday over France's Tatiana Golovin at the DFS Classic in Birmingham, England, was the Russian's first title of 2004. With a combined age of 33 years and 6 months, Sharapova (17 years, 2 months) and Golovin (16 years, 4 months) represented the third-youngest final of the Open Era.

The only final where the combined ages were less came in 1991 at San Diego where Saddlebrook's Jennifer Capriati (15 years, 4 months) defeated Monica Seles (17 years, 8 months,) and in Tampa 24 years ago when Andrea Jaeger (15 years, 5 months) defeated Tracy Austin (17 years, 11 months). Jaeger, by the way, lived in Gainesville while studying zoology at Santa Fe Community College from 1984-85.

ODDS AND ENDS: This from www.atptennis.com: Gaston Gaudio, the French Open champ, is the first men's player since 1960 to win a Grand Slam after saving match points in the championship. Forty-four years ago, Laver saved one match point against Neale Fraser in the final of the Australian. Gaudio saved two when Guillermo Coria served for the match at 6-5 in the fifth. ... Fish was the only player to take a set from Federer last year at Wimbledon. ... No. 4-ranked Amelie Mauresmo was named an official ambassador of Habitat for Humanity. ... ESPN will broadcast 120 hours from Wimbledon. ... The Tennis Channel will have live quarterfinal, semifinal and finals coverage of the WTA's Hastings Direct International Championships, a Wimbledon tuneup, Thursday through Saturday. The field includes French Open champ Anastasia Myskina, Jelena Dokic and Sharapova.

LAST WORD: "I am down, but at the same time I'm happy because, you can ask my friends, they don't understand even how I was able to stay as long on the court. But it was the dream of my life, so I fought until the end." - Coria, who battled cramps in the French final.

Havok
06-15-2004, 08:53 PM
HE played some sort of exo tournament thing last year as well. HE lost in 3 sets to Malisse but I'm pretty sure he did that on purpose as he just went there for extra practice and then lost so he can go to Wimbledon and prepare. Expect the same thing tomorrow. But is this thing just one exo and then its over and done with? If it is just one exo match, then he might try to win it:p

Fumus
06-15-2004, 09:11 PM
That's the only win Malisse has ever had over Andy!! LOL 8-0 and counting...

Deboogle!.
06-15-2004, 09:32 PM
It's just one exo match, he's not in the 8-player field

Tangy I don't suppose you can get your hands on the articles the Times did about Andy and post them on RO? :p

Fumus
06-15-2004, 09:34 PM
what about 8-player field, huh...:confused:

Deboogle!.
06-15-2004, 09:38 PM
the exhibition is a TMC-like 8-player field. but andy and Tim and people like that are just doing exhibitions, they won't play 3 matches

Fumus
06-15-2004, 09:44 PM
ohhhhhh I get it !! :drive:

MissPovaFan
06-15-2004, 09:47 PM
the exhibition is a TMC-like 8-player field. but andy and Tim and people like that are just doing exhibitions, they won't play 3 matches

Whos Tim Henman playing in it do you know?

Fumus
06-15-2004, 09:49 PM
omg! lol it's a watcher isn't it!!

Deboogle!.
06-15-2004, 09:49 PM
Nope sorry don't know. Only knew who Andy was playing when they put up the schedule. I guess it'd be out tomorrow who Tim will play

tangerine_dream
06-15-2004, 10:05 PM
Tangy I don't suppose you can get your hands on the articles the Times did about Andy and post them on RO? :p

Which Times are you talking about? There are so many. :scratch:

Deboogle!.
06-15-2004, 10:10 PM
The London Times silly goose :p I can see they have a bunch of articles about Andy that look good but you have to pay to subscribe.. I thought you had a "source" since you posted the one about Roger... or was the article you posted from something other than the London Times....I don't know why I just assumed it was from London, being from LA or NY or one of the 2920496720946720946 other Timeses didn't even cross my mind :o

tangerine_dream
06-16-2004, 01:25 AM
Oh! Well, that article wasn't from the London Times, it was from the states. :p

I found the latest odds for Wimby. I know nothing about gambling so could someone please tell me what these numbers mean exactly? Why is Andy's 7/2 odds better than Henman's 6/1? :confused:

R Federer evens
A Roddick 7/2
T Henman 6/1
L Hewitt 9/1
D Nalbandian 20/1
S Grosjean 33/1
M Philippoussis 40/1
M Safin 40/1
M Ancic 66/1
M Fish 66/1

Havok
06-16-2004, 01:49 AM
I don't gamble, and it's been at least 2 years since I learned about gambling odds in my macth class during my final year of highschool:sad: so I can't help you there tangy:(

Deboogle!.
06-16-2004, 02:33 AM
tangy the way odds work is the less money you win from betting on that person, the bigger favorite they are

Even odds mean you win whatever you bet. So if you bet $1 on Roger you would win $2 (your $1 that you bet plus even winnings)

Andy's 7/2 means that if you bet $1 you would win $4.50 (your $1 plus 3.50 or 7/2 winnings)

Henman's 6/1 means if you bet $1 you would win $7 (your $1 plus $6 winnings)

And so on.

Fumus
06-16-2004, 04:31 PM
So the oddsmakers think that Andy has a better shot than Tim, Safin, Grosjean, or Nalb wtf, I guess Andy really is the number 2.

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-16-2004, 05:04 PM
yay, i have faith in andy to take the whole shebang. If Henman is on his side of the draw, i think that is good luck, right -- I mean, isnt it a requirement to defeat Henman inorder to win...

Deboogle!.
06-16-2004, 05:20 PM
Yes Skyler that would be correct. Those oddsmakers, anyway :)

and Mrs. Guga, I agree. Andy's had tough draws in slams before. He could meet Tim as early as the QF depending on how the draw turns out but there's no saying with certainty that EITHER of them would make it that far :) That's tennis after all!

Havok
06-16-2004, 05:28 PM
leaving aside RG 03, Andy's had tough draws ever since Wimbledon last year. HE can do good with tough draws:p

tangerine_dream
06-16-2004, 05:53 PM
Was reading the messages on the BBC board for the first time in a while and apparently somebody made the typically short-sighted comment that Roddick is all serve and nothing else. This started another firestorm over there. Here's a sampling of some of the messages:

I think some of you don't comprehend what you see. Andy Roddick played a terrific match vs Grosjean. How can one say he only has a great serve after seeing that beautiful rally in the tie break, along with many fine rallies and volleys throughout the match? When you have a big serve, a fine slice backhand, good speed and a decent volley, you have a top player in Roddick. I think Federer is the most talented of the lot but Andy deserves better than the comments I've seen here.

I really enjoy the big serves and big returns, sprinkled with a few long rallies as we see now. Boring would be one long rally after another, ad nauseum...
David Fleming, USA

Re. comments about the service. Firstly, a foot fault occurs if the server's foot touches the baseline or court, or the ground wide of the centreline or sideline, at any time during the service motion. The full rules are on the ATP website.

Secondly, I don't think the speed of Roddick's (and others') service is the main reason he wins so many cheap points, but rather the excellent placement of it. A service that clips the centre or side line will win the point most of the time, whether struck at 150 mph or 120 mph. One of Roddick's 153 mph services was returned by Agassi, who won the point!

If the powers that be wish to limit the ability of the server to win easy points, then there are a number of much-discussed options (lowering the ball pressure, allowing only one service attempt, requiring the server to keep at least one foot on the ground, changing the court dimensions etc.). Applying a speed limit doesn't appeal - what about crunching forehand winners from the back of the court -should they be disallowed too because they are unreturnable? I'd advocate abolishing the second service - this would keep the game flowing and add extra tension at critical moments.
David Stead, Aberdeen, Scotland

Grass play is back with a bang! Federer and Roddick both winning (Queen's and Halle) in the run-up to Wimbledon is just fantastic news ...Hopefully Tim Henman can fit in there and finally get to the final to show everyone what a good player he is !
Cas Imir, Scotland

To Laurie - I think Wimbledon has lost its glamour already, certainly compared to the French and US Opens. Wimbledon is surely more of a novelty than a serious tournament. How many clay-courters even bother to turn up for it usually?

It seems absurd that the premier tennis tournament would be played on a surface that removes skilful and involving rallies, deteriorates throughout the fortnight adding more and more random bounces and is unplayable if it gets even slightly damp. It's also played in front of a champagne-quaffing crowd that knows nothing about tennis. Give me the excitement and tension of Flushing Meadows or Roland Garros anyday.
Pete, UK

I don't think Roddick's going to get a shoulder injury any time soon because of his serve, it isn't because of raw power that he serves so hard, it's because he kicks so hard with his feet and also excellent timing. There is no doubt he can get far at Wimbledon, but he was serving just as great last year and then he ran into Federer in the semis, who read and returned his power serves brilliantly. That may just as well happen again this year, though perhaps in the final this time.
Fritz, Hamburg, Germany

Does anyone have a take on Moya wearing a yellow shirt for the French open? I know Moya is a fine player, but in my opinion, this should not be allowed as I could imagine the ball could be difficult to pick up in some angles if it is against the yellow background. Am I the only one who noticed/thought about this? I haven't seen any comments from several sites on this topic....
David Fleming, USA

Yes Carol Foster, the signs are looking promising for an enjoyable Wimbledon this year. Disgusted that Flanagan will not be offered a wildcard. Navratilova has most certainly had 'her time' and it is unfair to be offering her entry though that system.

So hope that this year is finally Tim's and how great for sport it would be if Tim triumphs in the afternoon and England go on to win the Euro final in the evening. What a memorable 4th July that would be. Us sport fans would be talking about nothing else for months to come. Hey it's a great thought, and maybe not just a dream! Come on guys - here's hoping.
Maureen Willis, United Kingdom

A good serve is one of the "weapons" needed to win tennis matches. What is wrong in a player getting himself out of trouble with good serves? In my own opinion, nothing. People knew Roddick had the potential to be a champion. Despite the big serve, he didn't become one until he changed some things about himself & his game (e.g. his shots selection). Although, having watched him played at Queens this past week, I really felt sorry for his opponents' wrists. My goodness! Even the second serves were coming at them at over 120mph. Ouch.

Except for Hewitt, most of the guys who have performed well so far on grass are guys who didn't make it to the 2nd wk of FO. I wish the time between FO & Wimbledon will be longer so that players, especially those who made it to the 2nd wk of FO, may have enough time to be physically and mentally ready to complete at the highest level at Wimbledon. After enduring playing on clay for about 2wks, I think 2wks is too short for players to prepare their bodies and mind for another gruelling at Wimbledon. Also, I think the grass season is just too short - 4wks only.
Tomilola, South Africa

Wow, I didn't think the question which I thought was a little interesting would cause such uproar. It's a hypothetical situation people, don't take it so personally. Not once did I say Roddick was a bad player; he wouldn't be two in the world if he was. Ok, saying his game is based mostly on his serve is incorrect, but I think you have to agree that he relies on it heavily. Sure, if he has the weapon that no one else can match, by all means, let him use it. I just like to see more rallies, that's all.
Tan, Canada

I think John McEnroe is off mark asking Henman to act like someone he is not. I have no problem with players being fan friendly - or with them showing emotion. But a player needs to play the style they are most comfortable with. Borg was not the most outgoing player - but people loved his game. If McEnroe needs to be entertained by outbursts - he should go to political meetings instead of tennis matches.
Philip Heller, Glenside PA USA

I'm sorry but I have to agree with the decision by the LTA not to give Ian Flanagan a Wimbledon wildcard.

He played well at Queens Club, but to be granted a wildcard you must work hard all-year round. Two good performances at one tournament are just not enough.

On the issue of the big servers and Andy Roddick - Of course he would not be as successful without it, but neither would Tim Henman be without his net play, nor would Lleyton Hewitt be without his outstanding return of serve, or Federer without his superb ground strokes. Big servers still have to break their opponent's service games and you need to be a very competent player to do this against Lleyton Hewitt and Sebastien Grosjean on grass, as Andy Roddick did at Queens Club.
Andrew, Manchester, UK

John McEnroe is SO right about Tim Henman!!! Zero personality, like Pete Sampras. Great players? Yes but... However, I have ALWAYS been a Goran Ivanisevic fan and was totally delighted when he FINALLY won 'Wimbledon' - a magical story. Good luck to him.
Carole Young, Scotland

I am very, surprised that no one has mentioned David Nalbandian as a threat for the Wimbledon title. Although he might not win it which I feel is due to a mental as opposed to the physical aspect of his game, I have a feeling he is going to do very well at Wimbledon and he will probably upset one of the top three favourites for the title, these being Henman, Roddick and Federer. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF RODDICK HE HAS AN IMPRESSIVE RECORD OVER THE OTHER TWO.
Ben, North London

Every time a player perfects a segment of his or her game, notably the serve, some one tries to belittle this achievement. Why try to penalize Andy Roddick for improving upon a segment of his game. Other players have also improved upon some segments of their game.

It seemed that it is only the players with fast serves are being criticised, after all the serve is a part of the game. Who knows maybe someone will suggest that the drop shot and excessive baseline rallies is ruining the game, and should be stopped. I personally would not like to see any of these happening. After watching the women's final at Roland Garros, big serves and baseline rallies are refreshing to look at.
Courtney, Brooklyn NY

I think Henman's play being compared to Sampras is laughable. Henman has yet to prove he can be a world beater on a regular, let alone consistent basis. I don't hold out much hope for Wimbledon this year...
Oliver Thompson, US/UK

Wimbledon on the men's side seem poised to be a great one, with more than one contender and great potential.

The women's side though, is over shadowed by injuries and the absence of the top two players. Seriously, was the last time most of the top women played SW19 2003? I can only remember that Mauresmo had to withdraw...
James, Chester, UK

Roland Garos and the other TWO slams have already overtaken Wimbledon. For years now, some of the World's best players have not played there. Even some of the World Number 1's have not played. The surface is unique. Its popularity is due to tradition and the sycophantic media, not tennis. The actual tennis playing time in the Men's singles final is around 2.5 minutes per hour. I sat this as one who has played on these courts. Bert Jones Bert Jones
Bert Jones, UK

The signs for a brilliant Wimbledon are excellent. Federer and Roddick both awesome, Henman, Philippoussis and Hewitt credible contendors and the return of Goran - perfect. Boris and John Mac the creme de la creme of a dream commentary team - please don't anyone or anything interrupt me for the next two weeks - I'm busy!
Carole Foster, Staffs. UK

Fumus
06-16-2004, 05:59 PM
Nice. Tangy. Those BBC chaps like Roddick more than they let on :lol:

Havok
06-16-2004, 06:02 PM
People like to bitch because Andy's weapon is the 1st shot that actually starts the point. IF he didn't have such a huge serve and say had a bh as equally as good as his fh, he wouldn't get so much flack. But anyways, its good if your serve is a weapon since it IS the shot that starts a oint. Obviously it can start and end with one swing of the racquet, but he still has the goods to win rallies. I especially like the part where the dude said that he still has to break peoples serves so it proves he's not only a big server. Andy's been playing less tie-breakers I find. Obviously he's playing more matches this year and last, but before he would be winning really tight matches while now he wins them with more ease :cool:

tangerine_dream
06-16-2004, 06:06 PM
What irks me most when people whine about Roddick's serve is that 1) they forget that the best players always have some kind of a weapon that will bail them out of trouble, and Andy isn't the first to use his serve to do so *cough*Sampras*cough*, and 2) none of these crybabies would be complaining about his awesome serve if it were one of their own favorites who possessed it. :angel:

Deboogle!.
06-16-2004, 06:11 PM
On the issue of the big servers and Andy Roddick - Of course he would not be as successful without it, but neither would Tim Henman be without his net play, nor would Lleyton Hewitt be without his outstanding return of serve, or Federer without his superb ground strokes. Big servers still have to break their opponent's service games and you need to be a very competent player to do this against Lleyton Hewitt and Sebastien Grosjean on grass, as Andy Roddick did at Queens Club.
Andrew, Manchester, UK

:worship:

star
06-16-2004, 06:28 PM
What irks me most when people whine about Roddick's serve is that 1) they forget that the best players always have some kind of a weapon that will bail them out of trouble, and Andy isn't the first to use his serve to do so *cough*Sampras*cough*, and 2) none of these crybabies would be complaining about his awesome serve if it were one of their own favorites who possessed it. :angel:

Yeah. I hated Sampras's serve. :p

But, do I cry when Guga gets out of trouble with an ace? Not on your sweet life. I love Guga's serve. :D

star
06-16-2004, 06:31 PM
People like to bitch because Andy's weapon is the 1st shot that actually starts the point. IF he didn't have such a huge serve and say had a bh as equally as good as his fh, he wouldn't get so much flack. But anyways, its good if your serve is a weapon since it IS the shot that starts a oint. Obviously it can start and end with one swing of the racquet, but he still has the goods to win rallies. I especially like the part where the dude said that he still has to break peoples serves so it proves he's not only a big server. Andy's been playing less tie-breakers I find. Obviously he's playing more matches this year and last, but before he would be winning really tight matches while now he wins them with more ease :cool:

We've sort of had this discussion before. Andy doesn't have scorelines that are 7-6, 7-6. Sure he plays some tiebreaks, but there are big servers who have predominantly tiebreak scorelines. Andy has always had the ability to break other players.

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-16-2004, 06:42 PM
I think if people are TRULY unattracted to Andy's game, I can understand that, I won't lie. I mean, if I were a tennis player, I would rather have Federer's game or Nalbandian's. But, I think people just make too big a deal about Andy's game than it needs to be, imo, just because he had all that hype surrounding him when he was coming up, and people just look for any reason to hate him, and his serve is just a scapegoat. People just hate Andy by default, they probably always will. Maybe some people will have the ability to have a change of heart some day--I cant believe I despised Andy once upon a time, but I did, and for all the ignorant reasons

Fumus
06-16-2004, 07:44 PM
bla bla, Roddick is all serve bla bla...he breaks people by using Jedi mind powers he doesn't have any strokes....nahhh...

Deboogle!.
06-16-2004, 08:36 PM
Andy beat Stepanek 64 76...... next stop... WIMBLEDUCK!

star
06-16-2004, 08:39 PM
I think if people are TRULY unattracted to Andy's game, I can understand that, I won't lie. I mean, if I were a tennis player, I would rather have Federer's game or Nalbandian's. But, I think people just make too big a deal about Andy's game than it needs to be, imo, just because he had all that hype surrounding him when he was coming up, and people just look for any reason to hate him, and his serve is just a scapegoat. People just hate Andy by default, they probably always will. Maybe some people will have the ability to have a change of heart some day--I cant believe I despised Andy once upon a time, but I did, and for all the ignorant reasons

Well, yes. I can see not liking Andy's game. That makes perfect sense to me. It's all the other crap that is so stupid. There are players I don't enjoy watching, but I don't hate them and want to denigrate anyone who does like them.

Havok
06-16-2004, 08:48 PM
:woohoo: Roddick def. Radek. good grass court practice, and now it's Wimbledon time :smoke:

Fumus
06-16-2004, 08:51 PM
That's right...even when Radeck plays his best, he reduces his errors, he ups his winners, makes some really flashy shots and beats people down....he's still winning ugly..:lol: alright that was mean..

Havok
06-16-2004, 09:07 PM
:haha:

Jennay
06-16-2004, 10:54 PM
:lol:

MisterQ
06-17-2004, 05:16 AM
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star
06-17-2004, 05:17 AM
Bad Bad Bad Mister Q!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Deboogle!.
06-17-2004, 01:41 PM
well as you guys know the draw is out....

Andy finally gets a break and draws a qualifier in the first round.

But 2nd round could bring Nadal or (Jeff Salzenstein)

But for the second slam this year he's seeded to meet Dent in the third round :(

Schuettler is his quarter... but Henman is in his half :(

Fumus
06-17-2004, 01:58 PM
Yea but looking at the draw Federer is worse off he has Safin and Hewitt in his quarter.

Deboogle!.
06-17-2004, 02:02 PM
yea Andy's could be worse, I'm not complaining too much. Henman should have no problem reaching the SF though :(

Fumus
06-17-2004, 02:10 PM
yea, I wish Henman was in Fed's half oooo well, Roddick will have to beat Fed on his own.

Deboogle!.
06-17-2004, 02:15 PM
Uh..... he'll have to beat Henman on his own too lol

Deboogle!.
06-17-2004, 02:39 PM
A little preview on the Wimby site
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US Open champion Andy Roddick, at his highest place of second seed this year after reaching the semi finals from fifth seed last year, starts against a qualifier and is then due to play the Spanish teenager Rafel Nadal, who is recovering from a foot injury, or the American Jeff
Salzenstein.

The strong serving Taylor Dent of the USA is in Roddick's section of the draw while Sjeng Schalken of the Netherlands, highly experienced on Wimbledon grass, could come into Roddick's sights as well.

Roddick's scheduled quarter-final opponent is Rainer Schuettler of Germany who was the second most improved player in the world last year, winning 71 matches. At the semi-final stage Roddick is due to face the Argentine David Nalbandian, finalist in 2002.

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-17-2004, 02:42 PM
to win a Slam, may the best man win 7 matches. Andy wants to win, he has to do that, no matter who's in his draw. And if he does do it considering his side of the draw, that will be more wonderful. I mean, hard draws, bring it on! To bust through a hard draw means you were worth it--you deserved it.

And if Andy can get through this, and I know he can if he just gives it his all and never gets down on himelf too bad, I think he can do anything

heya
06-17-2004, 02:43 PM
Yea but looking at the draw Federer is worse off he has Safin and Hewitt in his quarter. Safin's not great on grass and Hewitt isn't serving well. Of course, if Andy isn't a fan's top fave, it wouldn't matter to the fan if Andy wins 7 matches. :D

Fumus
06-17-2004, 02:57 PM
Safin's not great on grass and Hewitt isn't serving well. Of course, if Andy isn't a fan's top fave, it wouldn't matter to the fan if Andy wins 7 matches. :D

Safin always shows up at the slams. Hewitt is a former champ. I wouldn't want those guys in my draw. :)

tangerine_dream
06-17-2004, 03:55 PM
:haha: :bigcry: MisterQ!!! :worship: Doesn't that belong in the FOR STAR: WARNING thread? ;)

So does anybody feel like doing an analysis of Andy's Wimby draw? Naldo? Darling :hearts: your banana was the best, btw. :angel:

You know, I'm always hearing about how great Safin is and that he can play on any surface. But, um, if that's the case then how come he can't play on grass? :confused:

Deboogle!.
06-17-2004, 04:03 PM
Naldo's gonna do the analysis for RO tangy.... don't you remember he agreed to in the chat last night? lol

Safin made the QF at Wimby a couple years ago but otherwise hasn't done much.

tangerine_dream
06-17-2004, 04:15 PM
Henman, Gonzalez, Philippoussis, Haas, Greasemonkey, Schuettler, Rusedski, Spadea, Martin .... Andy's got his work cut out for him, yes? no?

Henman must be thrilled Hewitt isn't in his draw. :lol:

Roger looks like he has a cakewalk to the finals.

Marc Rosset is Tall
06-17-2004, 04:19 PM
Gonzalez is not much on grass
Flip unfortunately is not winning matches anywhere
Haas has never been good on grass and that goes for Spadea.
Rusedski does not have a good record at Wimbledon.
Nalbandian is still having injury problems and might not play.
Spadea is not a problem on a grass court for Roddick.

Deboogle!.
06-17-2004, 04:20 PM
I'm gonna agree with Marc Rosset is tall here. Dent and Henman are Andy's biggest problems. and Nadal if he actually plays.

Marc Rosset is Tall
06-17-2004, 04:24 PM
I'm gonna agree with Marc Rosset is tall here. Dent and Henman are Andy's biggest problems. and Nadal if he actually plays.

You agree that I am tall or with the comments I made?

From what I have heard Nadal will not be there, and Dent he could have a very good serving day though he seems to be hit and miss. Henman should be more a problem though there is that horrible 1 match at a time cliche.

Fumus
06-17-2004, 04:27 PM
bla bla bla, Andy has an easy draw until the semis where he faces the "Hen" man

tangerine_dream
06-17-2004, 04:28 PM
I don't think Andy will have a problem with Nadal. Flipper may not be winning anything now but he could have a sudden resurgence at Wimby (same for Dent). Rusedski has beaten Andy before at Wimby. Greasemonkey is a problem child and Haas owns Andy. Basically, if any of these guys bring their A-game, Andy's got his work cut out for him.

Deboogle!.
06-17-2004, 04:30 PM
You agree that I am tall or with the comments I made?

From what I have heard Nadal will not be there, and Dent he could have a very good serving day though he seems to be hit and miss. Henman should be more a problem though there is that horrible 1 match at a time cliche.

I agree with your comments :)

Even if Nadal is there he won't have played any matches.

Dent is VERY hit and miss. Andy absolutely humiliated him at the AO in January. If Andy plays well Dent is not a problem really...but Andy would have to return well and really really attack Dent's 2nd serves. he did beat him on grass last year at Queens.

Deboogle!.
06-17-2004, 04:32 PM
I don't think Andy will have a problem with Nadal. Flipper may not be winning anything now but he could have a sudden resurgence at Wimby (same for Dent). Rusedski has beaten Andy before at Wimby. Greasemonkey is a problem child and Haas owns Andy. Basically, if any of these guys bring their A-game, Andy's got his work cut out for him.

There's a long way to go before Andy would face Flip, who lest we forget has not won a tournament match since JANUARY.

Rusedski just lost to someone not nearly as good as Andy. Andy knows how to take Greg now. No problem. Nalbandian would have to beat Henman first but I agree he would be a problem. Haas has never played Andy on a fast surface (since Andy's been good anyway lol). In Houston he himself admitted it would probably be a different result on hardcourt. Grass would only work even MORE to Andy's favor since grass is not Tommy's surface. I would not be worried about Tommy that much on grass.

Marc Rosset is Tall
06-17-2004, 04:33 PM
Andy on grass is better than most guys on the tour, that includes the ones he struggles with, I don't see Nadal playing or Haas doing well enough to be meeting Roddick. Unlike the other Slams, there are less genuine contenders for Wimbledon and this surface does change things in favour of Roddick. He is one of the favourites and has great confidence on this surface, so just think about the opponents he has to face when they get there and not think about it too much beforehand.

tangerine_dream
06-17-2004, 05:14 PM
There's a long way to go before Andy would face Flip, who lest we forget has not won a tournament match since JANUARY.

OK, after reading that article I just posted in GM, I take back what I said about Flipper. :eek: ;)

And some Roger fans are mad at me for daring to suggest that Andy has a somewhat tough draw. Compared to Roger's draw, I think Andy has the tougher luck. Or maybe I should say: Andy will have to work a tad harder than Roger to get to the finals. :)

Deboogle!.
06-17-2004, 05:25 PM
yea as far as I am concerned Flip is a non-issue at Wimbledon unless something really weird happens.

I think Andy and Roger have similarly moderately difficult paths. Andy has the disadvantage of having Henman. But you never know with Hewitt and he is capable of beating Roger too. It might depend on early upsets or things like that, but IMO right now with the full draw, they're app. equal open to subjective interpretation.

Shy
06-17-2004, 05:31 PM
Henman has all the pressure on his shoulder.Between Federer, Henman and Andy, Andy probably has lest pressure than the others. It might play in Andy's favor.

Safin is Federer's bitch; Federer has no problem with Marat, but Hewitt could be a problem.

Deboogle!.
06-17-2004, 05:38 PM
You may be right about pressure. Obviously Henman has it hugely and Roger has it to defend his title

But I've read several articles where they have Andy and Roger in the final already so there is pressure on Andy too. Just perhaps not as much. plus.... andy does ok with pressure (as shown from winning the USO last year:)). I like Tim a lot... but it would make me sleep better at night if he lost before the SF lol

Deboogle!.
06-17-2004, 06:10 PM
Here's the AR.com report from the exhibition. Sounds like it was fun and glad to hear Andy took it seriously. Let's make sure our serve doesn't desert us when it really counts though, mmmmmmmmmmkay?
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Report From The Stoke Park Exhibition
by: Lucy Flory


LONDON, ENGLAND -- 6/17/2004 --

In the beautiful settings of the Stoke Park Club, Andy played his last match in preparation for Wimbledon - an exhibition against Radek Stepanek.

Stoke Park is the perfect example of an English country club, with fantastic golf courses and facilities, a wonderful setting for a relaxed day.

Around two o'clock Andy made his first appearance on the practice courts, hitting up against Australian, Mark Philippoussis. Brad Gilbert and John Fitzgerald were on hand for any tips for the players. After about a half hour practice session, Andy left the court and on his way to the players enclosure signed many autographs for the eager fans.

After the conclusion of the very comical Ivanisevic-Massu match, Andy and Radek Stepanek took court! Andy treated the exhibition match very seriously, this being evident from the very first game as Stepanek had to save two break points.

However, Andy wasn't completely averse to joining in with the light-hearted atmosphere, and after shanking a return into the stands, shouted 'fore!'

At 3-3 in the first set, Andy broke through the Stepanek serve, showing the quality of his shots with a superb backhand pass.

During the next game a jazz band struck up somewhere near the court, bewildering the players so much, Andy commented: 'I don't want to interrupt anything if there's a concert going on.' A joke much appreciated by the crowd.

At 5-4, Andy served out the first set with perfect grass-court technique, a couple of aces, successful serve and volley and a smash to finish it off.

Andy's serve deserted him st the start of the second set, and aided by some untimely double faults from Roddick, Stepanek raced to a 3-0 lead. At 4-2, Andy broke back in style whilst on the run, he hit a stunning backhand pass, down the line. This coupled with two outstanding return winners, saw Andy drag the score back to 4-3.

Andy finally took the second set, and match on a tie break 7-5. Once again, Andy proved that he was taking the exhibition match very seriously as he hit some outstanding winners in the tie break.

It was a match much enjoyed by all, and a stark contrast to the Ivanisevic match which had a lot of crowd involvment and trick shots. Andy however showed that he was ready for Wimbledon and was hungry to win it!

Deboogle!.
06-17-2004, 06:44 PM
Nadal has now officially withdrawn.

Fumus
06-17-2004, 06:45 PM
wooo...I think I found a new signature there..that band quote rocks!

Deboogle!.
06-17-2004, 06:53 PM
:lol: yea that one is a classic, and it's good b/c it wasn't mean to an ump or something

mitalidas
06-17-2004, 07:09 PM
Yea but looking at the draw Federer is worse off he has Safin and Hewitt in his quarter.

For Federer, it is Safin OR Hewitt, not both of them
likewise roddick potentially has either Nalbandian or Phillippoussis or Henman

Contrast that with Poor Timmy. He has potentially got Phillippoussis and Nalbandian and Roddick to get to the Finals.

Its amazing, how the media is reporting this as an okay draw for henman, but a tough one for Federer

star
06-17-2004, 07:12 PM
Yeah that is weird isn't it. People talking about the draw being rigged for Henman is cookoo. I mean his draw isn't exactly how I would have rigged it. But maybe the committee had one too many cases of gin. :)

Deboogle!.
06-17-2004, 07:15 PM
matilidas, good point. I'd say, though, that Tim's path to the QF is still easier than many other top seeds/title contenders. And if Nalbandian is really injured, he won't make it that far anyway. and Philippoussis.... again as much as it pains me I cannot see him making it to the 4th round. So in reality he may not have to go through all those players. That would significantly improve his draw, on paper anyway.

star
06-17-2004, 07:25 PM
Hewitt has a crap draw. The worst.

Deboogle!.
06-17-2004, 07:27 PM
yes I would agree with that, of the 4 guys people say have a good shot at taking the title, his sucks.

J. Corwin
06-18-2004, 01:03 AM
You guys have to stop posting so much while I'm not around! :p It's taking a long time to catch up. lol

Bah at Andre having withdrawn.

Carito_90
06-18-2004, 01:48 AM
Oh I wouldn't be sourprised if Andre's "injury" was only an excuse for not playing :rolleyes:

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 01:49 AM
oh no Carito.... it's been bothering Andre for a long long time. It's nothing new.

star
06-18-2004, 01:57 AM
You guys have to stop posting so much while I'm not around! :p It's taking a long time to catch up. lol

Bah at Andre having withdrawn.


:hug: It's good to hear from you again, world traveler. :)

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 02:55 AM
Mature Roddick primed for Wimbledon glory
Fri 18 June, 2004 02:08

By Pritha Sarkar

LONDON, June 18 (Reuters) - With a thunderbolt serve and an impressive record on grass, Andy Roddick is primed to launch his bid for a first Wimbledon crown.

The world number two displayed his flair on the slick surface by hurtling towards a second successive Stella Artois title at the weekend -- firing 153-mph (246.2-kph) record deliveries en route.

After collecting his third title of the year, the American has now turned his focus on to triumphing at the citadel of grasscourt tennis.

"I'd love to win Wimbledon, I've won the U.S. Open and I think all athletes want to do well in their own countries but you always want to win here," said the 21-year-old Roddick.

Twelve months ago Roddick arrived at the All England Club as the crown prince of American tennis, ready to take over the mantle held jointly by Pete Sampras and Andre Agassi for more than a decade.

However, his attempt to join the roll of honour ended in the semi-finals, where he was treated to a master class in grasscourt tennis by eventual champion Roger Federer.

As doubts about his ability to land a major continued, Roddick finally silenced his critics two months later with a winning run at Flushing Meadows.

Now a year older and with a U.S. Open trophy in his possession, the Florida resident admits he has more faith in his ability these days.

"I played really well at Wimbledon last year but maybe I didn't have the belief then that I do now, especially after having won one grand slam tournament," he said.

"I know I was playing really well last year but, looking back, it wasn't good enough to win. Before winning a slam, I had the fear of the unknown so winning one makes a big difference."


RECKLESS DYNAMO

His decision to hook up with Andre Agassi's former coach Brad Gilbert last June proved to be a masterstroke as the former top-10 player has managed to harness Roddick's immense power with greater court craft.

During their year-long partnership, Gilbert has overseen the A-Rod's transformation from a reckless dynamo into a mature grand slam champion.

"I'm still pretty young and I'm still learning...I'm always looking well to prove myself on a weekly basis, so if I lose a match now it doesn't shatter my confidence like it used to," said Roddick.

His game has improved in every department. Even his formidable serve has got better as he now mixes up the deliveries. This weapon will once again be key in determining his progress at Wimbledon.

While Gilbert can take the credit for drawing out the talent Roddick had promised since he arrived on the professional scene in 2000, the coach has a price to pay for success.

Roddick may be displaying his newly discovered maturity on court, but off it he remains the perennial prankster.

"This is very dumb and Brad's going to kill me for this but he lost a bet the other day," Roddick laughed as he rubbed his rugged beard.

"He always wears black, grey and white shirts so we've got to go and buy him a nice pink striped shirt and he's got to wear that."

So while Gilbert can look forward to adding some colour to the green background of the All England Club, Roddick will be bidding to become the seventh American to lift the Wimbledon men's singles title since tennis turned professional in 1968.

"Obviously it would be outstanding if I did win and I'd be so happy but it's not life or death out there," he said.

"I'm going to try my best when I go out there and give it my all and we'll see if that's good enough." :rolleyes:

tangerine_dream
06-18-2004, 03:10 AM
After watching the Goran/Andre 1992 match again, I now believe that Andy will not win Wimbledon until he is 22 years old. All the great players won wimby when they were 22. Andy will have to wait another year for his trophy. ;)

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 03:18 AM
But Roger was 21 when he won :p

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 03:36 AM
Roddick has the right stuff
American's all-around game could bring him Wimbledon glory

By Bud Collins
NBC Sports
Updated: 10:24 p.m. ET June 17, 2004LONDON - Is the grass greener on Andy Roddick's side of the net? Well, maybe, but while the second-seeded American takes aim at his first Wimbledon title, the reigning champion, top seed Roger Federer looks in excellent shape to repeat.

ANDY RODDICK
While Federer took the title in Germany, Roddick won the week’s other Wimbledon tune-up -- Queen’s Club in London.

And, like Federer, Roddick has forgotten his brief, miserable performance at the French Open.

Roddick, the Meteor Man, has a serve that could take him all the way on the lawns.

He also has a flaming forehand and his volleying is coming along all right, too, though, so far, he hasn’t been making instinctive moves to the net.

And he can run.

J. Corwin
06-18-2004, 03:38 AM
Those are some pretty darn short sentences at the end.

See Spot. See Spot run.

heya
06-18-2004, 04:02 AM
"I'm still pretty young and I'm still learning...I'm always looking well to prove myself on a weekly basis, so if I lose a match now it doesn't shatter my confidence like it used to,"
whining during/after matches, choking, poor preparation & impatience weren't because of confidence problems? :rolleyes: I bet he'll bow down to Henman and Nalbandian if he plays them. :o

Havok
06-18-2004, 04:51 AM
:p sometimes what you say about your game/tennis really isnt the truth. bluffing ;)

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-18-2004, 06:40 AM
Who the fcuk is Greasemonkey? lol

star
06-18-2004, 01:37 PM
Pay NO attention to that Mrs. Guga!

*covers Mrs. Guga's eyes and changes threads**

:lol:

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 02:47 PM
Andy plays Yeu Tzuoo Wang (TPE).... and Alexander Peya took Nadal's spot

I've never heard of Yeu Tzuoo Wang... I hope that's not a bad sign :lol:

Here are his 2004 results.... he's only 19
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Singles Semifinalist: Surbiton, Joplin, Australia F2 Quarterfinalist: Ho Chi Minh, Tasmania Doubles Finalist: Forest Hills(w/Berrer) Semifinalist: Australia F2(w/Sela)

Havok
06-18-2004, 02:49 PM
Ack, we're in for a real treat, we'll get to see a mega scrub on TV:p

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 02:51 PM
LOL Naldo.... have fun writing about that one in the draw preview :p

And have an article to wake up to :)
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Federer and Roddick set for a rivalry made in legend

Classic match-ups such as McEnroe v Borg sprinkle stardust on the game and a new pairing has emerged with eyes on a duel in this year's final at Wimbledon

Stephen Bierley
Friday June 18, 2004
The Guardian

Great match-ups are the lifeblood of tennis, no matter how much today's leading players drone on about "anybody in the top 100 being capable of beating anyone else". John McEnroe v Bjorn Borg, Rod Laver v Ken Rosewall, Pete Sampras v Andre Agassi, Boris Becker v Stefan Edberg: there is magic here and the nascent rivalry between Switzerland's Roger Federer and Andy Roddick of the United States may sprinkle more stardust.
If there is one certainty in the sometimes confusing arena of men's tennis, it is that Federer, 22, and Roddick, 21, are currently the world's two leading players. And a fortnight on Sunday there seems every possibility the top seeds will meet in the Wimbledon final, a repeat of last year's thrilling semi-final, which Federer won in straight sets before going on to become champion.

They emerged as the front runners in the second half of last year, Roddick winning the US Open and later, at the Tennis Masters Cup in Houston, edging the world No1 ranking ahead of the Swiss. It was Roddick's opinion, reasonable at the time, that the battle for top spot would be a fluctuating affair this year. Instead Federer, by winning his second slam title at the Australian Open, cruised past the American and has stayed there since. So Roddick will be a man on a mission at Wimbledon.

Both won their grass dress rehearsals - Federer at Halle, Roddick at Queen's, thus heightening the anticipation. Naturally all British interest will centre on Tim Henman, who has a winning record against them both, while Australia's Lleyton Hewitt, the 2002 champion, will also be determined to breach the Federer-Roddick axis. But tennis needs this Swiss-US rivalry to catch fire.

So far they have met only six times, Federer holding a 5-1 advantage. As Roddick remarked after losing to him in Houston, and with reference to his Wimbledon defeat: "He kicked my ass then and he kicked my ass tonight."

The two, who share 30 titles between them, Federer having won 16, are as dissimilar on the court as they are off it. "Roger is an incredible talent whereas Andy is much more emotional and powerful," said McEnroe. "That mix could be combustible and develop into a great rivalry. They just need to stay healthy and play each other in a lot of big matches."

With Agassi, the holder of eight slam titles and the last of the golden oldies, close to retirement, both Federer and Roddick are acutely aware that the sport is looking for other big names to emerge. "I knew it was in me but I didn't know what it took," said Federer after winning Wimbledon. "I get a different feeling when I step out on court now."

The same is true of Roddick after his success at Flushing Meadows although, whereas Federer already appears the complete article, Roddick is by no means a finished product. There are lots of rough edges which his coach, Brad Gilbert, is in the process of smoothing.

For all his brashness and quick fire verbal responses Roddick has a professional admiration for Federer that is both generous and open: "I don't know if there is anybody more talented or with more natural flair." Grass, more than any other surface, accentuates the beauty and grace of Federer in all its variations. Two of the game's biggest servers, Roddick and Australia's Mark Philippoussis, attempted to bludgeon him to defeat last year and both were left limp and lumpish.

"To beat Roger you need to do a lot well," said Roddick, whose one victory came last year over three sets in Montreal. "He doesn't have any weaknesses, particularly when he is serving well." Federer has been likened to Sampras, 14 times a grand slam champion, seven times at Wimbledon. But here Roddick disagrees "He has more spin on his shots and is a bit more patient but he's not on you all the time like Pete was. Having said that, you don't see Roger winning the first set many times and then struggling the rest of the way," said Roddick, who has a vivid memory of a missed forehand in last year's first-set tie-break in the semi-final that might have tipped the match his way, Federer winning 7-6, 6-3, 6-3.
As soon as Roddick reached No1, he found himself bracketed with his compatriots Sampras, Agassi, McEnroe and Jimmy Connors. "You just look at that list and they are legends of the game. I'm not in their class yet." And neither is Federer, although many believe he will be.

Federer refers to Roddick as "a good guy". For the moment they can afford to bestow praise on each other, although there was a touch of champion's steel in Federer's voice when he said: "I'm not scared of his serve. I read it well and he gets frustrated by this."

The top two seeds have not met in the men's Wimbledon final since McEnroe and Connors in 1982. Connors, the No2 seed, won in five sets. Roddick would settle for that.

Head to head
Federer leads Roddick 5-1

2001 Basle Federer 3-6 6-3 7-6
2002 Sydney Federer 7-6 6-4
2002 Basle Federer 7-6 6-1
2003 Wimbledon Federer 7-6 6-3 6-3
2003 Montreal Roddick 6-4 3-6 7-6
2003 Houston Federer 7-6 6-2

Havok
06-18-2004, 03:00 PM
Well can we say winning those tie-breaks in the Roddick/Federer match-ups are UBER important :scared:

Fumus
06-18-2004, 03:04 PM
:lol: yea that one is a classic, and it's good b/c it wasn't mean to an ump or something

What!?! :apumpkin: lol what's wrong with the mean ump quotes I love them. There are soo many good ones.

"Did you live under powerlines as a chilid" - USO 2001 Hewitt Match

"Your on nationial TV, you look like a real idiot right now" - RCA 2003 Paradorn Match

and of course that sig I have had for a long time about say FU to the umpires is great!! :)

Fumus
06-18-2004, 03:11 PM
Great Article bunk you know I dig that rivalry stuff..

LCeh
06-18-2004, 03:13 PM
:lol: Good point Naldo. Everytime they play there is a tiebreak. :lol:

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 03:26 PM
Here's some *wisdom* from the USTA folks

Andy is given "4 balls" meaning "Clear off that Trohpy Case" - along with Tim and Roger
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Wimbledon 2004: Previewing the Gentlemen
By Greg Laub, USTA.com

No. 2 Andy Roddick – Last year at this time, people were comparing the underachieving Roddick to Pete Sampras, and that the two actually had the same amount of wins (just two) at the French in their first two years, and that Roddick actually had more wins here at Wimbledon than Sampras' first three years combined. We then pointed out that Sampras broke through that next year and reached the semifinal, and then won next seven out of eight Wimbledon titles. Well, Roddick erupted as well, reaching the quarterfinal here last year and then going on to win the US Open in September. We aren't saying that Andy will win seven of eight, but if he continues to follow the path of Sampras, there will certainly be a few, and we see no reason why he can't start this year.

http://www.usta.com/protennis/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=72075

star
06-18-2004, 03:30 PM
I wish people would stop the Sampras/Andy comparison.

Andy is not going to be a dominant player like Sampras was. He's not going to win 4 wimbledons in a row. He's not going to be the number one player for 6 years in a row.

It's a lot of stupid expectations that "the kid" doesn't need heaped on him. He's going to be a very successful tennis player and will have a fine career. All of this talk only sets him up to be found wanting........ Well, Roddick never won more than one Wimbledon or two... ... I guess he fizzled out. That's dumb.

Fumus
06-18-2004, 03:30 PM
:lol: Good point Naldo. Everytime they play there is a tiebreak. :lol:

There has always been a TB when they have played against each other. That's because they play so well against one and other. They bring out the best in each other. That is what great rivalries are all about!

There should be a Roger vs. Andy Tournement. It will start as a round robin Andy and Roger play other players and kick the crap out of them. Then, Andy and Roger will have to play 3 matches on seperate days, seperated by days to rest. It will go best 2 of 3 and winner takes all the slams and the money! That would be worth it, well I guess the end of the year masters could be like that... :devil:

tangerine_dream
06-18-2004, 03:46 PM
Who the fcuk is Greasemonkey? lol

:haha: Sorry, Mrs Guga, that's my pet name for Nalbandian. :)

Roger vs Andy --- tennis ecstacy! :hearts: thanks for the articles, deb :hug:

Fumus
06-18-2004, 03:49 PM
lol Greasemonkey? you could just call him "nosey"!

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 03:57 PM
Here's another article... it's kinda similar to one I already posted but whatever ;)

Roddick ready to convert Queen's title
J Buddell, Eurosport

Since his second round exit at Roland Garros, Andy Roddick has nurtured stubble into a full-fledged beard, because he forgot to pack a razor to his 'European' bag, when he left the Californian sun. But it is his second successive Queen's Club title that has many commentators believing the American may win Wimbledon.

Roddick has arguably the best coach in his corner, Brad Gilbert, the former coach of Andre Agassi, the 21-year-old has the big-match experience and a game to back-up his almighty serve.

Last week at Queen's Club, the world number two sent the radar to new times, with three deliveries at 153 mp/h (246.2 km/h), on his way to winning his third title of the year.

Now he has turned his focus to triumphing at the citadel of tennis.

"I'd love to win Wimbledon, I've won the U.S. Open and I think all athletes want to do well in their own countries but you always want to win here," said Roddick.

Twelve months ago Roddick arrived at the All England Club, with the hopes of a nation, hoping he would be ready to take the mantle held by Pete Sampras and Andre Agassi.

However, his attempt to join the champions' roll ended in the semi-finals, where eventual champion Roger Federer treated him to a master class.

As doubts about his ability to land a major continued, Roddick finally won on home soil at Flushing Meadows, in New York.

"I played really well at Wimbledon last year but maybe I didn't have the belief then that I do now, especially after having won one grand slam tournament," he said.

"I know I was playing really well last year but, looking back, it wasn't good enough to win. Before winning a slam, I had the fear of the unknown so winning one makes a big difference."

His decision to hook up with Gilbert at Queen's Club last June, proved the beginning of a glorious run, which ended with Roddick being crowned the 2003 world champion.

"I'm still pretty young and I'm still learning...I'm always looking well to prove myself on a weekly basis, so if I lose a match now it doesn't shatter my confidence like it used to," said Roddick.

The Nebraskan's formidable serve has got better as he now mixes up the deliveries, and with added potency to his forehand and consistency on the backhand wing, he is determined to progress further at Wimbledon.

Gilbert can take the credit for drawing out the talent Roddick had promised since he arrived on the professional scene in 2000, but the coach recently paid the price for success.

"This is very dumb and Brad's going to kill me for this but he lost a bet the other day," Roddick laughed.

"He always wears black, grey and white shirts so we've got to go and buy him a nice pink striped shirt and he's got to wear that."

So while Gilbert can look forward to adding some colour to the green background of the All England Club, Roddick will be bidding to become the seventh American to lift the Wimbledon men's singles title since tennis turned professional in 1968.

"Obviously it would be outstanding if I did win and I'd be so happy but it's not life or death out there," he said.

"I'm going to try my best when I go out there and give it my all and we'll see if that's good enough."

mitalidas
06-18-2004, 04:36 PM
Not one of these "pundits" predicts that andy will win Wimbledon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/3794667.stm

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 04:41 PM
Not one of these "pundits" predicts that andy will win Wimbledon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/3794667.stm

good :) Put all the pressure on Roger. Andy has enough of it just making it to the SF/F like everyone's predicting.

Fumus
06-18-2004, 04:45 PM
good :) Put all the pressure on Roger. Andy has enough of it just making it to the SF/F like everyone's predicting.

Exactly right Bunk, I prefer they not predict Andy to do anything besides serve and eat pizza 24/7

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 04:46 PM
Exactly right Bunk, I prefer they not predict Andy to do anything besides serve and eat pizza 24/7

Yep! :yeah:

Havok
06-18-2004, 04:52 PM
One of them predicted Capriati to win Wimbledon :bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 04:56 PM
As much as I'd love that to be true..... I KNOW LOL!!!!!!!! She's much better on slower surfaces and Serena is not gonna lose to her THREE Times in a row!

Fumus
06-18-2004, 04:57 PM
Hey she could do it!! Believe in Slopriati!!

Havok
06-18-2004, 05:00 PM
OMFG :haha::bigcry::bigcry: That's a blackmail picture if I ever saw one :scared:

Fumus
06-18-2004, 05:05 PM
lol, yea you can thank Tangy for that one!

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 05:32 PM
hey look, Andy's opponent was photographed by Reuters lol

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040618/i/r1322263764.jpg

Taiwan's Wang Yeu-Tzuoo, 19, poses for a photograph at the Queen's Club in London June 18, 2004. Wang has been drawn to face U.S player Andy Roddick on the first day of the Wimbledon Championships on Monday. REUTERS/Kieran Doherty

edit: oy there are a bunch of pics.... he warmed up with Pat Cash today.... why is this guy getting this kind of attention lol.. Andy better kick his ass

Shy
06-18-2004, 05:34 PM
Federer refers to Roddick as "a good guy". For the moment they can afford to bestow praise on each other, although there was a touch of champion's steel in Federer's voice when he said: "I'm not scared of his serve. I read it well and he gets frustrated by this."


Is it me or the media doesn't want Roger and Andy to get along?They want fight. They are desperated to make them say that they hate each other, but it doesn't work.

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 05:37 PM
Is it me or the media doesn't want Roger and Andy to get along?They want fight. They are desperated to make them say that they hate each other, but it doesn't work.

I totally agree with you. They're both too nice. They like each other. Andy has said he'd love to have a beer with him (well.... Andy would love a beer with anyone :lol: ) and Roger has said more than once that he thinks Andy is one of the fairer players that he plays. I mean.... they're not friends like Andy and Mardy or whatever, but they obviously like and respect each other. Gotta love the media always looking for drama.

star
06-18-2004, 05:40 PM
I get the impression that Roger has complete distain for Andy.

Maybe I've missed something abotu Roger liking Andy, but I just don't see it.

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 05:41 PM
Well put it this way.... he's said a lot of nice things. Maybe he just talks the talk. I don't know why he'd disdain him, unless something happened behind the scenes at some point.

I mean... he owns him, why shouldn't he like him :lol:

Shy
06-18-2004, 05:43 PM
Maybe not liking him, but I don't think that he dislike Andy or anything. I think that they both respect each other. However, it would be hard for them to be friends because of the competition.

Shy
06-18-2004, 05:44 PM
I mean... he owns him, why shouldn't he like him :lol:
True.

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 05:45 PM
And they have very different personalities. But they both are witty and friendly, I bet they would get along well. But yea I agree, I don't think they'd ever be friends, but on the other hand I've never gotten the impression from either one of them that they don't like each other

star
06-18-2004, 05:49 PM
Distain.

Distain for his game. That's what I get from Roger. Particularly with the comment that he can easily read Andy's serve and that frustrates Andy.

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 05:51 PM
Well we're talking about them personally. I'm sure Andy doesn't like Roger's game very much either :haha: But as people, I think they like each other just fine.

Shy
06-18-2004, 05:58 PM
Well we're talking about them personally. I'm sure Andy doesn't like Roger's game very much either :haha: But as people, I think they like each other just fine.
Well, Roger seem to be very honest.So, it might come off as Andy sucks when he want to say that Andy' s serve did not trouble him (which is the true).
Roger is very honest in his interview, so if he hates Andy, I bet that he would say it.

star
06-18-2004, 06:05 PM
Shy, you are idol worshiping.

Federer is not a completely honest person. No one is 100% honest.

I doubt that Federer hates Andy, but even if he did hate Andy, I hardly think he is going to say that in a press conference.

At any rate, I didn't say that Federer was being dishonest in his remarks, I only said that I thought Federer had distain for Andy's game. DISTAIN -- not dislike or hatred.

Shy
06-18-2004, 06:19 PM
Shy, you are idol worshiping.

Federer is not a completely honest person. No one is 100% honest.

I doubt that Federer hates Andy, but even if he did hate Andy, I hardly think he is going to say that in a press conference.

I know that he isn't 100% honest. I am not stupid , I kow that nobody is a 100 % honest. I do not worship him. I mean to say that he would not say that Andy is nice and everything.I am sorry that I miunderstood you a little bit that is all.

LCeh
06-18-2004, 06:41 PM
http://www.usta.com/protennis/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=72075

"Forget that he was once known as a clay-court specialist"

Roger was known as a clay-court specialist :haha: :haha: :haha:

Shy
06-18-2004, 06:45 PM
:haha:

Fumus
06-18-2004, 06:46 PM
hey look, Andy's opponent was photographed by Reuters lol

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040618/i/r1322263764.jpg

Taiwan's Wang Yeu-Tzuoo, 19, poses for a photograph at the Queen's Club in London June 18, 2004. Wang has been drawn to face U.S player Andy Roddick on the first day of the Wimbledon Championships on Monday. REUTERS/Kieran Doherty

edit: oy there are a bunch of pics.... he warmed up with Pat Cash today.... why is this guy getting this kind of attention lol.. Andy better kick his ass

I don't think he's going to beat Andy with his good looks and his style. :devil:

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-18-2004, 07:21 PM
I talked to a player last year, and from what I gather, much of the tour doesn't like the American players. :rolleyes: I personally think it is resentment coming out of their asses, but anyway... if Rogi doesnt like Andy, I wouldnt be shocked. I am sure Andy was Rogi's fav bitch.

Shy
06-18-2004, 07:24 PM
I talked to a player last year, and from what I gather, much of the tour doesn't like the American players.
Why? They seem nice, the american player. Maybe it is caused by the fact that they don't hang together.

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-18-2004, 07:27 PM
He said they are all arrogant and full of themselves... i dont believe that

Shy
06-18-2004, 07:34 PM
I don't believe that all of them are full of themselves either.I think that most people assume that they are arrogant because they are american without getting to know them. Maybe some of them are arrogant, but I highly doubt all of them or most of them.

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 07:41 PM
Maybe it's because they hang out with each other. They're all friends and are very close. I saw James, Mardy, and Robby all interacting off-court in Houston and arrogance is the last word I would use to describe any of them. But I can see how other players might feel "left out of the group." I hope that's not how they/Americans/etc. are perceived by the majority :(

Fumus
06-18-2004, 07:43 PM
Robby!!:rocker:

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 07:46 PM
Roddick Ready For Wimbledon
By Richard Pagliaro, Tennis Week
06/19/2004

The running dialogue Andy Roddick carried on with himself on court during early-round Wimbledon matches last year was small talk compared to the stream of consciousness screams shrieking from the face of his racquet. "Focus! Focus!" Roddick repeatedly reminded before another blast blared from his racquet and reverberated throughout the Centre Court stadium.

When Wimbledon begins on Monday, the second-ranked Roddick will be ready to make some noise again. Fresh off his second consecutive Queen's Club championship, Roddick reinforced his reputation as the man most capable of dethroning defending champion Roger Federer.

While the top-ranked Federer, who owns a 17-match win streak on grass, is the clear favorite to raise the Wimbledon title trophy again, Roddick's grass-court credentials make him a capable contender. The 21-year-old Boca Raton resident has won 15 of his last 16 matches on grass with his lone lawn loss coming to Federer, 7-6(6), 6-3, 6-3, in last year's semifinal.

In a conference call with the media today, the 2003 Wimbledon semifinalist said if you're looking for a difference in his grass-court game this year, you'll find it beneath his baseball cap.

"I think a lot of it's between the ears. I was playing great tennis at Wimbledon last year. You know, I still think I was playing well enough to have a chance of winning," Roddick said. "But I've experienced a lot more big matches in the last year than I probably experienced, you know, combined before that. So I think that's the biggest thing. And just the confidence, knowing that I can win a Grand Slam. My biggest fear was the fear of the unknown. It's a little bit easier this time along, I think."

Fear is always a factor in Roddick matches.

Tennis balls must cringe in the can before becoming targets for his vicious swings on serve as Roddick pounds shots with the punishing power of a player intent on deflating each ball with decisive devastation. Yet subscribing to the stereotype of Roddick as simply a mindless power player is as misleading as casting Buckingham Palace as a royal bed and breakfast. Since exploding onto the circuit as the first American teenager to claim three or more tournament titles in the same season since Pete Sampras won four in 1990, Roddick's evolution as a player has seen him add subtlety to his substantial power.

Certainly, his touch will never be mistaken for McEnroe's, but Roddick has made significant strides in several areas of his game. His backhand is no longer the liability it once was as he consistently keeps his two-handed backhand deep and is capable of striking his one-handed slice backhand to alter the tempo of rallies; he's become smarter in his return game and puts more returns in play rather than resorting to ripping low-percentage return winners as he occasionally did in the past and he's become more adept at applying his athleticism into points by attacking the net on faster surfaces such as grass.

"I think I'm just continuing to improve. You know, my backhand now as opposed to two years ago, at least I feel in my mind it almost feels like night and day right now," Roddick said. "I have a lot more confidence in it. But coming into this grass court season, I really wanted to try to do something with my volleys a little bit more. That's kind of what you've been concentrating on, not just putting them in play. If I'm going to miss them, miss them aggressively or make them aggressively."

Roddick is a rarity in that for an attacking player who produces so much pace on his shots, he can play big tennis without big risk. The fact that Roddick plays with so much spin on his serve and forehand gives him a much greater margin for error than opponents who have to flatten out their shots to hit harder. You rarely see Roddick make successive errors into the net.

The main mistake Roddick made last year was failing to serve out the first set in his semifinal with Federer.

The fluid Federer's vast variety of shots and ability to play offensive tennis from virtually any position on the court were too much for Roddick to overcome. Roddick registered a set point at 6-5 in the tiebreak, but could not convert. It was the last opportunity he had as Federer won three consecutive points to close out the first set. Federer was formidable on serve, winning 28 of 35 points on serve and hitting eight aces in the first set.

"I think it, you know, came down to a couple points here and there, then I ran into a person who was just playing great on the day," Roddick says of his loss to Federer. "I thought I played very well at Wimbledon last year. Up to that point, that was by far the best I'd played in a Grand Slam event."

The prospect of the world's top two players renewing their rivalry on tennis' most prestigious stage is appealing. In a grass-court duel between two imposing servers, every point is precious. Should the top two seeds make it through the field, Roddick hopes to draw on his past experience.

"I am a year wiser now. I've played in a lot of big matches since that semifinal last year," Roddick said. "So I think that can only help."

A longer grass-court season could elevate the quality of play at Wimbledon. While Roddick endorses extending the grass-court season, he's not holding his breath waiting for it to happen.

"I don't see it happening any time soon because there's not a whole lot of movement being made to make that happen. But I would love to see it a little bit longer," Roddick said. "I don't see how it makes much sense to have a Grand Slam on a surface, but not a Masters Series event on the surface. You know, I'd love to see it longer."

Fumus
06-18-2004, 08:05 PM
Great article, I am pyched up now!!

Havok
06-18-2004, 08:50 PM
That poor little kid will most prob get that crap kicked out of him :sad:

Fumus
06-18-2004, 08:55 PM
That poor little kid could be a wimbly champ, you never know!!

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 09:18 PM
OMFG :bigcry:

One betting site is taking bets on whether Andy will serve over or under 153MPH at Wimby!
------
Fastest Serve
Wimbledon - Mens - Andy Roddick Book Closes 21 Jun-10:00

Under 153.5 mph 1.72
Over 153.5 mph 2.00

Fumus
06-18-2004, 09:20 PM
holy crap! What was the bet Andy made with his friends before he went on Kilborn after the AO 2002?

Havok
06-18-2004, 09:26 PM
it was after the AO 2003 Skyler:p It was how long into the interview will it take Craig to mention Borg:p they had the whole over, under thing, but Andy forgot exactly what it was but he lost anyways;)

Deboogle!.
06-18-2004, 09:29 PM
I hope Andy goes on Kilby when he's in LA for the ESPYs :rocker2:

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-18-2004, 09:50 PM
Mandy was just on Kilborn last nite, who i think sucks and isnt funny no offense. I wanna see Andy on Conan, ooooooh

tangerine_dream
06-18-2004, 11:31 PM
Just heard that James Blake has now officially pulled out of Wimby. Poor James. :sad:

And I'm a bit annoyed right now because I saw who was going to be in the Nottingham final: PDorn and Johansson. :rolleyes: Like taking candy from a baby, if only Mardy didn't have to withdraw. :banghead:

Havok
06-19-2004, 12:06 AM
MRs. Guga, Andy has already been on Conan:p It was I think right after Wimbledon, he went there before he played at INdy if I'm not mistaken

Deboogle!.
06-19-2004, 12:07 AM
I like Kilby better than Conan. Too bad Craig is almost twice my age :sad: It's a different kind of humor so it would make sense to like one and not the other :) Conan is taped in NYC though and Kilby in LA so him being on Kilby or Leno when he's in town for the ESPYs is more likely :)

Jennay
06-19-2004, 12:13 AM
Awww Bunkie has a crushy wushy on Craigy :kiss:

J. Corwin
06-19-2004, 12:30 AM
I like both Conan and Kilby. :)

Roger won Halle without dropping a set, no?

star
06-19-2004, 12:48 AM
Mandy was just on Kilborn last nite, who i think sucks and isnt funny no offense. I wanna see Andy on Conan, ooooooh

Kilborn is a total slut. And his attitude toward women just makes me :fiery:

Other than the fact he turns my stomach........ he's ok. :lol:

star
06-19-2004, 12:49 AM
He said they are all arrogant and full of themselves... i dont believe that

They are like a bunch of frat boys.

I never liked frat boys either.

Deboogle!.
06-19-2004, 01:02 AM
Roger won Halle without dropping a set, no?

Correct. Andy shouldn't have either :rolleyes:

heya
06-19-2004, 06:11 AM
No coach is better than bad-mouthing, evil coach. Andy has a little learning to do when it comes to judging character.

Doughboy confused Gilbert's 1-dimensional coaching technique with great wisdom. :angel:
"Break the serve record and destroy the ball like the Williams sisters, Andy. I don't have high regards for your game, but I like playing innocent with you."

USA USA! All US coaches rule!!!! :rolleyes::haha:

heya
06-19-2004, 06:32 AM
best shows:
star search
last comic standing (sometimes)
cold case files (docu)
60 minutes
daily show
48 hours
jimmy kimmel (sometimes)

worst:
the view
leno
maury
trl
sharon osborne
oprah
american idol
larry king
dateline
regis
ellen
letterman
conan
craig

Deboogle!.
06-19-2004, 02:42 PM
last comic standing (sometimes)


My old substitute teacher is in the final 10 in the house. Everyone must watch and cheer for him lol :p

Deboogle!.
06-19-2004, 03:07 PM
more idiocy from Matt Cronin! Craig Hickman where are you?

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Confident Roddick says he's improved enough to win
Federer or Hewitt will likely come out of top half

By Matthew Cronin
tennisreporters.net

Andy Roddick is not a pretty, stylistic player like defending Wimbledon champion Roger Federer. He's a home run hitter in the Mark McGuire mode who's attempting to add a little more of Barry Bonds' repertoire to his game, where he can punch an opposite field single when called upon to do so.

The No. 2 seed at this year's Wimbledon Championships and the world's fastest server, Roddick is sure to knock a couple dozen aces out of the park in each of his matches on the slick grass. That amount of firepower alone should get him past 19-year-old qualifier Yeu-Tzuoo Wang of Taipei in the first round, maybe veteran compatriot Jeff Salzenstein in the second round and the erratic serve-and-volleyer Taylor Dent in the third round. But beyond those three rounds, he'll need a whole lot more finesse at the net, on his returns of serves and in his passing game.

Last year, Roddick torched the field until the semifinals, when he was schooled by Federer, who once he got Roddick's serve back, was clearly in control of the points. Federer has proven that when he's focused, he can turn the green blades his way. Roddick has only proven that he can knock holes in the turf.

But the 21-year-old American says he's a different and more refined player now. He's so confident coming off his title run in Queens last week that he likes his Wimbledon chances as much as he did coming into last year's US Open, when he hadn't lost a match on hard courts all summer. He won that prestigious crown and now wants England's most revered one.

"They're very comparable," Roddick said of confidence level in New York last year and in London next week. "A lot of it's between the ears. I was playing great tennis at Wimbledon last year. I still think I was playing well enough to have a chance of winning. But I've experienced a lot more big matches in the last year than I probably experienced combined before that. That's the biggest thing and the confidence, knowing that I can win a Grand Slam. My biggest fear was the fear of the unknown. It's a little bit easier this time around."

While Roddick's draw isn't easy, it could be a whole lot worse. One of two clay courters, Nicolas Massu and Andrei Pavel, are seeded to be his round of 16 opponent. His potential quarterfinal foe, eighth-seed Rainer Schuettler of Germany, had beaten him in the past, but not on grass, where Roddick can keep the points short. But he also may face twelfth-seed Sjeng Schalken in the quarters, whose reached the quarterfinals here the past two years and is a very sound net rusher. That's where Roddick gets in trouble, when he is forced to come up with passing shots time and time again, especially with his backhand. But the fast-talking American says that he can now stick a pass. Moreover, he won't be conceding the net, a locale he doesn't love yet.

"My backhand now as opposed to two years ago, it almost feels like night and day," he said. "I have a lot more confidence in it. But coming into this grass court season, I really wanted to try to do something with my volleys a little more. That's what I've been concentrating on, not just putting them in play. If I'm going to miss them, miss them aggressively or make them aggressively."
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So if Roddick does manage to reach the final, it's likely to be against one of two men who he has a combined 2-9 record against: Federer or Hewitt. The world will then know whether Roddick has evolved to the point where he really no longer fears the unknown.

"I love playing on grass and I feel like it suits my game," Roddick said. "I am a year wiser now. I've played in a lot of big matches since that semifinal last year. That can only help."

Havok
06-19-2004, 03:24 PM
Sheesh shoot the guy for thinking he's a fav for the title :scared: and he does know that Andy totally OWNS Sjeng right:scratch: allez Cronin keep up the bull :yeah:

Deboogle!.
06-19-2004, 04:45 PM
WIMBLEDON '04: A-Rod, Federer lead the way

WIMBLEDON, England (AP) _ Andy Roddick has what it takes to be a transcendent tennis star.

He boasts a record-breaking, highlight-reel-worthy 150 mph serve that makes opponents whiff and spectators gasp. He backs that up with a ferocious forehand, while the rest of his game is steadily improving under Brad Gilbert's tutelage.

It helps that he plays with a Connors-esque energy that can lead to high-fiving fans after a fantastic point. He even has a potential career-long foil: No. 1 Roger Federer.

And unlike 12 months ago at Wimbledon, where play starts Monday, Roddick now possesses something essential to consistently contending at Grand Slam tournaments: a Grand Slam title, earned in September at the U.S. Open.

``I was playing really well at Wimbledon last year, but maybe I didn't have the belief that I have now. Now having won one, that is definitely an advantage for me,'' Roddick said. ``I'd always talked about, before I'd won a Grand Slam, that the only fear is the fear of the unknown. People would ask 'Can you win a Slam?' and I would say 'I'll let you know' - and that's a big difference.''

It's also a big reason why, despite all the apparent depth in tennis (something also interpreted as a lack of top talent), no one would be surprised if Roddick and defending champion Federer square off July 4 for the championship at the All England Club.

A changing of the guard could be in the offing. With Andre Agassi out, citing a hip injury, it's the first time in 16 years neither he nor the retired Pete Sampras is entered.

``I'm disappointed that Andre isn't able to post at Wimbledon this year. I know how much it means to fans to have him on court, and I hope he's able to play soon,'' Roddick said. ``There will be a lot of action for fans to keep up with since the rest of us will be giving it all we've got to try and win the tournament.''

That, of course, includes Federer, on a 17-match grass-court winning streak and one of just three past champions in the men's field. The others are Lleyton Hewitt (2002) and Goran Ivanisevic (2001), who hasn't played here since collecting his lone major title and is retiring after the fortnight.

With tennis' TV ratings in decline, and some observers worrying aloud about the sport's direction, novelty acts like Navratilova's or Ivanisevic's can draw a bit of extra attention.

But it's the real rivalries that drive popularity. Think Sampras-Agassi or Jimmy Connors-John McEnroe-Bjorn Borg.

How about Roddick-Federer?

It's not a done deal that they'll meet in the Wimbledon final, naturally. A group of players could intervene, including Tim Henman, who will reprise his role as the Great British Hope for the locals' first male champion since 1936.

Others include 2002 finalist David Nalbandian, Mardy Fish (the only player to win a set against Federer last year), Swedes Robin Soderling and Joachim Johansson, and (if healthy) Marat Safin, last seen yelling at his hand blisters at the French Open.

``I feel like there are not many guys left who really have an edge on me,'' says Federer, 5-1 against Roddick.

If Roddick, 21, is power and brashness, Federer, 22, is versatility and cool. Roddick's only loss in 16 grass matches was to Federer in the 2003 Wimbledon semifinals.

When it comes to a high Q-rating, Roddick seemingly has all the ingredients. He has a sense of humor and a willingness to promote the sport. He went from dating an actress to dating a model. And he has a cool nickname, albeit one shared with another athlete: A-Rod.

``Roddick gets it,'' Enberg said. ``What I like about him, at his age, is he understands the responsibility of making that connection with the audience.''

Deboogle!.
06-19-2004, 05:27 PM
looks like tennis-x is back on the crack:

"Roddick has a tough road with a battle-tough qualifier in the first round, then whoover replaces the injured Nadal who has withdrawn, then a meeting with countryman (26)Dent."

tangerine_dream
06-19-2004, 05:32 PM
You know, Andy may not be a ballerina out there on the court (who the hell is?) but his game is far from ugly. I'm really tired of people complaining that he's not graceful to watch. Most players are not. So sorry not everyone can be like Roger the Great. :rolleyes:

"I feel like there are not many guys left who really have an edge on me,'' says Federer, 5-1 against Roddick.

This is why Roger's starting to get a bad rap for being arrogant. It's only a matter of time before the backlash starts. :o

Deboogle!.
06-19-2004, 05:40 PM
You know, Andy may not be a ballerina out there on the court (who the hell is?) but his game is far from ugly. I'm really tired of people complaining that he's not graceful to watch. Most players are not. So sorry not everyone can be like Roger the Great. :rolleyes:

"I feel like there are not many guys left who really have an edge on me,'' says Federer, 5-1 against Roddick.

This is why Roger's starting to get a bad rap for being arrogant. It's only a matter of time before the backlash starts. :o

Well roger's not my fave, you know that... but that screams 'taken out of context' to me :shrug: I mean I'm sure he said it but I bet it was surrounded by other things that may change the meaning a little.

As for "grace" - grace isn't everything, and grace isn't always interesting. Let people think whatever they want. It goes back to what that Craig guy wrote in to Matt Cronin.... Andy won a slam and finished the year #1 with a game that had GLARING weaknesses. He's already improved some of those weaknesses but still has a long way to go. The fact that he's at the top of the game and can still improve so much AND is so dedicated to doing so is a scary thought :)

Deboogle!.
06-19-2004, 11:07 PM
Big Interview with Andy in The Guardian!
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Cool, dude

Andy Roddick welcomes the Observer to his 'kick-ass' house in Texas to tell how his love of Wimbledon began at breakfast

Jamie Jackson
Sunday June 20, 2004
The Observer

Long before Andy Roddick, the US Open champion, had ever hit a tennis ball in anger, the grass courts of SW19 were a fascination to him. ' Breakfast at Wimbledon ,' he drawls. 'Every kid in America watched it growing up. You know, you wake up and it's on. I was just amazed, really transfixed in front of the TV. I remember all the Becker-Edberg finals.'
Roddick, who could hardly be more different to the quiet, understated Edberg if he tried, goes into Wimbledon as the second seed. He is in the same half of the draw as Tim Henman and if Britain's number one makes it to yet another semi-final at the All England Club it will probably be Roddick, America's number one, who stands in his way. Roger Federer beat Roddick in a one-sided semi-final last summer but Roddick, fresh from retaining his title on the lawns of Queen's Club, believes he can win the title this year and emulate the 2002 winner, Lleyton Hewitt, by doing it from the baseline.

'I like grass, I enjoy it and it suits my game. I felt I played really well last year. I was cruising through rounds and I had a chance against Roger [Federer], a set point in the opener, but it just didn't fall for me, so at that stage I felt like I was playing well enough to win. I feel I could do some damage at Wimbledon with my serve.'

How does he view the threat of the world number one, ahead of Wimbledon? 'Man, I have a lot of rivals so I don't think about a match with Federer. The thing about him is, we have to be way deep into a tournament to play. So I'm not worried about him going into a competition.'

Last September, the 21-year-old from Omaha, Nebraska, employed that bazooka serve (a record 153mph on his way to last week's victory at Queen's) to send down three aces and close out an emphatic, straight-sets victory at Flushing Meadow against Juan Carlos Ferrero to win the US Open. He had previously won from two sets and match point down against David Nalbandian in the semi-final. That first grand slam provided a release from the incessant pressure heaped on him by the American media, who had been playing him up as the man to take over from Pete Sampras and Andre Agassi.

Just for good measure, he then ended the year as the world's top player. 'The selfish thing about an athlete is you always look at the side of things where you say I could've done that better. But if you had told me before Wimbledon last year I'd win a major and finish number one I would've taken it.

'But I don't want to be a one-slam wonder, the worst number one player of all time. If I could win four or five slams that would be awesome for me. It's insane, it's nuts. I used to go to the US Open on my birthdays and sit in the nosebleeds. I never dreamed of it because it wasn't realistic.'

Following that victory, Roddick talked of feeling strangely calm during the match. 'I've felt like that possibly three or four times in my life. It's happened a couple of times on big stages, where it's like I didn't feel anything. I try not to think about it too much, because I'd love for it to happen again sometime. I really can't explain it. I mean you're serving for your first grand slam and three aces and you're done.'

Having won in his homeland, Wimbledon is his next big target - the one he most craves. 'The one I'd like to win is Wimbledon,' Roddick says. 'It's the intimacy, the exclusiveness of the club, how it's tucked away in a neighbourhood. It's not like New York where there's a huge stadium and it's, like, bam!

'Wimbledon's been around for ever, at least it seems that way. I've never been in England at any time except Wimbledon time, but the amount of coverage it gets is insane. In the States, tennis is sixth or seventh on the totem pole as far as sports go.'

Despite the grind of the tour, Roddick has a refreshing sparkle to his eyes and is genuinely thankful for his talent and success. 'You're in foreign places, often by yourself. You wanna throw the phone sometimes, that's your only communication. But, you know, that's the one negative among the millions and millions of positives.'

One of those pluses is having the dollars to buy a new home in Shimmering Cove, a prime spot on the Colorado River, 10 minutes drive from downtown Austin, Texas.

Roddick was four when his family moved there to allow older brother, John, to play tennis. 'I fell in love with this city. I mean, if you take a boat down the river to the lake you can't not. And it has a really cool vibe downtown with live music and jazz clubs. It's such a healthy place, you can go out to the hills, and there's bike trails.'

Roddick's house, a few doors up from the former home of Tour de France hero Lance Armstrong, is modest. Its focal point is the black marbled kitchen that opens out on to comfortable sofas and a red, slate-bed pool table. Outside there is a mini-size tennis court.

'I'm really proud of this house,' he says. 'It's a fantasy. It was always one of my dreams to move back and buy a place that I considered to kick ass. And to be able to do it on my third year on the tour makes it so much better.'

And the Lilliputian tennis court? 'I play on that with friends for fun, with a sponge ball. For practice I like driving out. Doing the normal things like buying your balls and booking your courts. I enjoy that.'

In a tennis era lacking on-court characters, Roddick's enthusiasm and effervescence is good for the sport. As is true of anyone with personality, however, he is not for everyone. On the way to winning the US Open, Roddick defeated Ivan Ljubicic in the second round. The Croatian claimed in the post-match press conference that no one in the locker room liked Roddick because of his demonstrative on-court behaviour.

'We're not friends by any stretch of the imagination,' says Roddick, 'but we're always cordial. After he'd made that statement, I passed him in the hall and he said, "Happy birthday, dude." [Roddick was 21 the following day.] So I didn't realise at the time. I called him that night and said, "Don't speak on behalf of everyone else. I don't think it's fair to speak for every other player." I was actually flattered by the amount of people that were asked about it and were pretty supportive. If someone doesn't like me, they don't like me. I'm pretty cordial with everyone, I don't try and step on anyone's toes.'

Roddick has been coached for the past year by Brad Gilbert, former coach of Andre Agassi and author of Winning Ugly . He describes Gilbert's influence as being to fine-tune his game, rather than to impose himself. Quick with a quip, Roddick speaks of the 'dog and a tree' approach of some other coaches. He is also good on self-depreciation, declaring: 'I try not to talk about my weaknesses, I'm in denial.' And, with regard to his name, he declares: 'Rod-dick. I had many years of psychological issues with that.' :haha:

Off court, as well as on, it has been a year rich in incident for Roddick since Gilbert took over. Last November, Roddick hosted Saturday Night Live . Why? 'What's an ultimate honour in England? Every person has gone to meet the Queen,' he says. Not quite true, but the point is taken. 'That's kind of where the show is.' Was he not concerned about making a fool of himself? 'I was expecting to,' he says with a grin. 'It was just positive. A totally different dynamic, a rush.'

Last month, ahead of the Italian Open in Rome, Roddick was woken at five in the morning in his sixth-floor suite at the Parco dei Principi hotel by fumes. He opened the door, was hit with a wall of smoke, and saw a dozen people outside, choking. Roddick called them into his room and, realising the fire brigade had not yet arrived, called his mother in Florida for help. It was a good idea. He explained to her that guests, including the Dutch player Sjeng Schalken, were jumping down on to his balcony for refuge, and his mother told him to soak towels and seal the doors with them.

'It's amazing how calm I feel,' he told her. Then, the fire engines arrived. 'Hey, you guys with the ladder, if you come here I'll buy you pizza,' he shouted, still surprisingly unshaken. 'I caught Sjeng, then his wife. We helped the others down and we waited.' Three people died in the fire. His mother was there for him, but not his girlfriend. A few weeks before that ordeal, Roddick had ended his long-term relationship with the Hollywood actress Mandy Moore, but this is one topic he does not wish to discuss.

He is much more talkative about London's attractions during Wimbledon fortnight. 'I've been to the theatre here. And I think the city has great food. Some of the restaurants are amazing. I mean, I can't just sit inside and eat room service - I've even eaten fish and chips.'

Can he wander the London streets without being approached? 'Yeah sure, though it may be different since everything's happened. But when I was over here last year for 28 days, David Beckham was on the front pages of the sports sections like 23 times, so I don't even compare. I've seen the madness.'

Roddick will need to gather a little more media space for himself with a triumph on men's finals day at Wimbledon. It could be a memorable 4 July for the player who admits he has tears in his eyes when the 'Star Spangled Banner' plays at Davis Cup ties. There are, though, some impromptu musical offerings from Wimbledon he would rather miss.

'If they put the roof on Centre Court I'm sure it'll affect the playing conditions, but I think it's great that they stepped it up. It'll still be pouring on the outside courts, though, dude. I mean, keep the party going, we don't wanna hear Cliff Richard sing any more.'

Years, then, after first watching Becker, Edberg, Agassi et al, on his television screen as his mum served him breakfast, Roddick is still passionate about Wimbledon. 'There's the excitement it brings if you tell your friends, "Oh man, I got tickets for Centre Court at Wimbledon." You know that means something to anybody on the streets in London. Whereas if you say, "I got tickets for the Arthur Ashe court at the US Open," it's like, "Oh cool, who's playing?"

You know, you can go watch some terrible mixed doubles match but if it's on Centre Court it's still pretty cool. 'I like playing on Centre Court. It's a different beast, you feel like people are there for the tennis.'

andyroxmysox12191
06-19-2004, 11:34 PM
lovely article deb! :kiss: thank you sssssooooooo much :hug:

PinkFeatherBoa
06-20-2004, 12:25 AM
That was a lovely piece, cheers for posting it deb.:hug:

tangerine_dream
06-20-2004, 12:40 AM
Sunday Herald - 20 June 2004

Hot Rod

He is brash but being bright and handsome makes him Mr Perfect to promote the game, says Eleanor Preston

Those of a cynical disposition might almost imagine that scientists in some secret US government laboratory created Andy Roddick in a test-tube. To use the vernacular of teenage America, could he be any more perfect?

At 21, he is handsome, charismatic and possesses a right arm so strong that even Superman might shake it gingerly.

It’s an arm that can hit 150 mile-an-hour plus serves so regularly that he has broken his own speed record three times in the last four months, and it’s also the arm that has escorted a succession of white-toothed beauties, including actress Mandy Moore and his latest companion, model Lauren Bedford.

His celebrity cache is such that when he and Moore split up in the spring it made the news pages of American gossip bibles People magazine and US Weekly, and he has already hosted Saturday Night Live, clinked coffee cups with David Letterman and answered the prayers of tennis administrators desperate to keep attracting a younger demographic to their sport.

“It’s a little weird. I’ve kind of gone through different phases of celebrity and now it’s kind of gotten out of control,” says Roddick, who away from the on-court floodlights and the off-court flashbulbs is both brighter and more thoughtful than his rather brash public persona would suggest.

“I don’t try to pay too much attention to it. I try to keep it as simple as possible. They [the media] only have as much as you give them.

“If you are out there at the opening of every envelope then it’s tough and if the basis of a relationship is being in front of the cameras then maybe it gets too much but I don’t think that’s ever how I’ve tried to act. I think some things have to stay private.”

After years of being touted as heir apparent to Pete Sampras and Andre Agassi, Roddick proved by winning the US Open last September that he is almost a hybrid of both – a stupendous tennis player with an innate star quality.

Even better, in the taciturn yet prodigiously talented Roger Federer, he has a nat ural rival, with the enigmatic Swiss in the Borg role and the fist-pumping, smart-mouth Roddick cast as McEnroe.

“Roger is an incredible talent, whereas Andy is much more emotional and powerful,” John McEnroe remarked recently. “That could develop into a great rivalry. They just need to stay healthy and play each other in a lot of big matches.”

Federer’s win at Wimbledon and Roddick’s triumph in New York contributed to what Roddick called, with his customary ear for a good soundbite, “a fairytale year”.

The season was made all the more magical for the American when he finished it as world No 1 with Federer in second place.


This year, and therefore in the seedings at Wimbledon where top seed Federer plays the opening match as defending champion tomorrow, their places are reversed. If the draw goes to plan then the next of the big matches McEnroe predicted should come in the final, two weeks today. Roddick, though, is far too canny to start talking up his chances.

“You would have to put Roger as the favourite and I also think you have to throw Tim Henman in there,” he says. “I don’t think I’ll ever be arrogant enough to sit there and say that if I didn’t win then it was a bad tournament.

“Last year I played well, I didn’t win but it was still a good tournament. Obviously it would be outstanding if I did win and I would be so happy.

“But it’s not winning or losing, I’m going to try my best. I’m going to go out there and give it my all and we’ll see if it’s good enough.”

A year ago Roddick was humbled in straight sets in the semi-finals, made to look like a rookie with a big serve and not much else. Since then, with the continuing guidance of his coach Brad Gilbert, he has matured beyond comparison, something which makes it unlikely Roddick would allow himself to be made to look so ordinary again by Federer, let alone Henman, whom he could meet in the semi-finals.

“I was playing really well at Wimbledon last year but maybe I didn’t have the belief that I have now, having been through it and having won one,” he says. “The exper iences that I’ve been through have given me an advantage because I’ve won a lot of matches since I was here last and that builds confidence. I knew I was playing well last year at Wimbledon – looking back maybe even good enough to win – but I had never been there before. It just comes with maturing as well.”

The maturity is certainly evident away from the court, but, encouraged by Gilbert, he is also keen to show his youthful, light-hearted side.

“I’m still kind of loopy,” he says. “Brad says he feels like he’s babysitting sometimes.”

When Roddick won back-to-back Masters Series events in Canada and Cincinnati last summer Gilbert had to do a parachute jump and according to Roddick “he still owes me a bungee jump”.

Goodness knows what the poor man might have to suffer if Roddick wins Wimbledon but it might be enough to shut even the eternal chatterbox Gilbert up, albeit briefly.

“If I’m feeling good about how I’m playing as we go along then I might have to start thinking about it,” says Roddick with a glint of mischief in his eye.

“It doesn’t have to be extreme, it can just be something embarrassing for him. That’s fine with me. He only wears black, grey and white shirts and so – he’s going to kill me but this is great – he lost a bet with his son the other day and so we have to go and buy him a nice pink, striped shirt or something and he’ll have to wear it.”

If much of the credit for Roddick’s tennis is due to Gilbert, then the drive to entertain and the swagger – tempered with just enough humility – which make him so appealing to fans and sponsors alike, are probably down to his well-to-do but down-to-earth upbringing.

Aware from early on that they had a future superstar on their hands, his parents, Jerry and Blanche, did their best to provide him with as normal an upbringing as possible and gave him the skills to cope with all the hullabaloo.

“I remember when I was 16 or 17 and I walked off the court in the middle of a match because I would have been late for the prom and they were fine with it,” he says. “They didn’t care. They were great, they let me make my decisions as long as I stood by them.”

They must have been beside themselves with pride in May when their son saved seven people after his hotel caught fire in Rome, helping those on the floor above his climb to safety.

And as the headlines added “real-life hero” to Roddick’s ever-growing list of attributes, there might well have been a group of scientists in a laboratory somewhere, quietly beaming with pride too.

Could he be any more perfect? Probably not.

Deboogle!.
06-20-2004, 01:55 AM
“I remember when I was 16 or 17 and I walked off the court in the middle of a match because I would have been late for the prom and they were fine with it,” he says. “They didn’t care. They were great, they let me make my decisions as long as I stood by them.”

:rolleyes: well it's a good thing he won't have a prom to attend during Wimbledon!

Shy
06-20-2004, 02:03 AM
It's great that his parents support him rather than force him to play tennis like most parents.

Deboogle!.
06-20-2004, 02:15 AM
OMG BRAD PLEASE STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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6.19.2004 - The kid is ready to go. You know, it's like when you are sitting in school and it's the last 5 minutes of class; it feels like the clock is actually moving backwards. On Tuesday Andy will face Taipei qualifier Yeu-Tzuoo Wang. I went and saw him practice the other day but that's it for a scouting report on this guy. Obviously he's made it through the qualies so he's match tough.

This could be a breakout slam for Sharapova. She could be the one to break the Williams stronghold her at Wimbledon. Mario Ancic could also be dangerous on the men's side.

Andy's looked good in practiced and played and won an exhibition match this week against Stepanek 6-3 7-6. The Kid's done his homework, now it's time for the report card.

Nishy
06-20-2004, 03:30 AM
OMG BRAD PLEASE STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why?
Are you talking about Sharapova?
Sorry I don't get it. :sad:

Deboogle!.
06-20-2004, 03:37 AM
no no the analogies to the report card and studying and class and all that stuff.... it's just HORRIBLE lol

Deboogle!.
06-20-2004, 03:42 AM
another nice article, from The Scotsman
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Reconstructed Roddick is this year's model citizen and tennis ace

ALIX RAMSAY


IF A week is a long time in politics then a year is a lifetime in tennis and the Andy Roddick who approaches Wimbledon this year is a much changed character from the brash, young lad who lost to Roger Federer in the semi-finals 12 months ago.

Back then, Roddick was just starting out on his marvellous summer, a three-and-a-half month stretch in which he lost just two matches but picked up five titles, the last being the US Open in September. From being the Americans’ great but unfulfilled hope, he was suddenly the All-American Hero. And, at the time, he was not quite sure how it had happened.

Part of the transformation was due to his new coach, Brad Gilbert. His wily old brain had helped Andre Agassi through the ups and downs of a remarkable career and now, presented with a young and impressionable charge, his influence was instantly apparent. Within a couple of weeks, Roddick had won the title at Queen’s and by the time he was facing Federer, he was playing some of the best tennis of his career. Even so, he was still stunned that it had all happened so fast.

"Obviously, the first six months, we were lucky that we clicked so fast," Roddick said. "I wasn’t expecting that, I was expecting almost like a rebuilding process and then Brad came in and things started happening right away and we just kind of went with it. There was a kind of the relief when Brad started. He said: ‘Come on, listen, you have a big game’. Let’s not focus so much on your deficiencies as opposed to what you can do with your game now and take it into your opponent’s weaknesses. And so that kind of made things fresh in my mind and really excited me."

By the end of last year, Roddick was the world No.1, a grand slam champion and, just for good measure, had a celebrity girlfriend, Mandy Moore. Everyone wanted a part of him. He was asked to co-host Saturday Night Live, appeared on talk shows, magazine covers and in gossip columns. And then, as the new year started, he had to do it all over again to maintain the level he had set for himself.

"I didn’t expect to be No.1 last year," he said. "All of a sudden the last five or six months of the year were a complete whirlwind. My biggest fear was always the fear of the unknown. People would talk about me winning grand slams and I thought: you know what - I haven’t done it yet, I don’t know if I can. But now I know that I can, I have done it, it definitely affects the confidence in a very positive way."

As he set off on the tour in January, he was not playing as well as he had last summer, but he was not worried. Having packed a career’s worth of experience into a few months, he had learned much. The Davis Cup, where he has taken the US to the semi-finals, has helped while a good run in Miami brought him his first major title of the year. He may not have been playing as well as he had against Federer, but he knew it was just a matter of time before he hit peak form.

"I felt that I was playing really good tennis at Wimbledon last year," he said. "Now I feel that it’s not surprising if I’m playing that well whereas last year at Wimbledon I was kind of like: OK, I’m playing great, let’s keep going. This year I might go in and I could be playing badly but still think that I could pull it together."

Roddick is still only 21, an age when most of us are still making a complete hash of everything in our lives from relationships to exams to job applications. Luckily, most of us are allowed to do that in private but Roddick, the multi-millionaire superstar, has to make his mistakes in public. No matter, his family keep his feet on the ground and his basic common sense keeps him sane.

"I think it’s just a learning process," he said. "This is a time, when you’re 21, in most people’s lives when they grow up and they mature and I’m doing it, doing the same thing. I’m just doing it with a couple more people watching. But I think I’m just growing up and learning."

He has had to learn to deal with the public’s demands and has come to the conclusion that he can’t be all things to all men. "And now I’ve stopped beating myself up for that," he said. He has also discovered, through his relationship with Moore and their subsequent break-up, that he needs to keep something back.

"The public can only have as much as you give them," he said. "If the basis of a relationship is being in front of camera then that can be tough, but I don’t think that’s ever how we tried to act. I think some things have to stay private."

His parents, Jerry and Blanche, can take most of the credit for Roddick’s level-headed attitude to stardom. They allowed him to make his own decisions from an early age "as long as I stood by them" and, unusually, for tennis parents, did everything possible to give him a normal childhood. They even allowed him to walk off court, mid-match, to make sure he would not be late for the school prom. As a result his best friends from school are still with him now.

"I could break my leg tomorrow and probably they wouldn’t treat me any differently," he said. "They don’t care, that’s what makes them friends. At the core I’m the same old, same old. I guess the more things that you experience, they kind of shape you a little bit. I guess I see things a little differently now than maybe I did before, but it’s still the same me at the core."

The same old Roddick will begin his Wimbledon campaign against Yeu-Tzuoo Wang, a qualifier from Chinese Taipei, on Tuesday. As the No.2 seed and Queen’s Club champion, he is expected to face Federer again, this time in the final in two weeks’ time. That, though, is a long way off and the rapidly maturing Roddick may be confident, but he is not cocky.

"I’m not going to sit here and say that I’m going to do it because it’s not that easy," he said. "I got pretty far last year, I feel a lot more comfortable on the grass than I did a couple of years ago and I’ve been in a lot of big-match situations since then. So, I have a lot more going for me than I did maybe a year ago."

Yes, but can he win the title? "I hope so," he said, grinning from ear to ear. "I like the way you’re talking."

heya
06-20-2004, 04:28 AM
Roddick has a bigger serve than Federer but doesn’t back it up as well. And while his forehand might be better than Federer’s, his backhand definitely isn’t. When Federer gets into a rally there is a comfort level that he has that is remarkable to watch against an opponent who hits the ball as hard as Roddick, which is harder than I have ever seen anyone hit a ball.
- John Mc :rolleyes: Just like his brother.:scared:

"I wasn’t expecting that, I was expecting almost like a rebuilding process and then Brad came in and things started happening right away and we just kind of went with it. There was a kind of the relief when Brad started. He said: ‘Come on, listen, you have a big game’.
Brad, the INVENTOR! Now I know - Andy wouldn't have won tiebreaks without Gilbert! How sweet.
I forgot those 7 straight tiebreaks he lost because he was encouraged to serve as fast as possible. Ah, there were 2 match points wasted in 2 events he could've won. He let the Andy haters enjoy the USO semifinal! :D

He suffered major loss in ranking points because Andy agreed to stay away from clay events. Oh yeah, French Open was so nice!
Yes, Gilbert, we have memory loss too!:rolleyes:

tangerine_dream
06-20-2004, 05:17 AM
Sometimes I feel like the only person on MTF who would be having virtual orgasms at the thought of a Roger/Andy final. At least some people in the media agree with me. ;)

Federer-Roddick rivalry could spark sport
By Charles Bricker
Staff Writer
Posted June 20 2004

WIMBLEDON, England· They worked side by side on the Wimbledon practice courts a few days ago, the two best players in the game offering a visual dessert to dozens of fascinated onlookers -- No. 1 Roger Federer, the smooth stroking, amiable defending champion from Switzerland, and No. 2 Andy Roddick, the Rodzilla of big servers from Boca Raton.

If men's tennis is ever to recapture the presence it once commanded when John McEnroe was playing Jimmy Connors or when Pete Sampras was battling Andre Agassi, these two young men, who are barely a year apart in age, need to ignite a rivalry, perhaps right here, that can flame on for the next five years or more.

The foundation is in place, forged 12 months ago on these famous grassy grounds, when Federer defeated Roddick in straight sets in the semifinals. But now, with them running one-two in the rankings, it's time for something bigger, like a five-set thriller in the Wimbledon final that would leave everyone calling for a rematch, and then another and another, right through the U.S. Open and the Masters Cup and into 2005.

Both young men want this rivalry because they genuinely love the challenge of playing each other, and they recognize how good it would be for the game. Making it happen, however, is not so simple.

"There's no question that rivalries promote interest in tennis," Roddick said. "Anyone would tell you that. But, at the same time, I can only play who's across from me, and if it happens that it's me and Roger, it would have to mean we're both having a good tournament."

They would be having more than a good tournament. They would be having a fabulous tournament because the only way they can play this fortnight is in the final. There is, however, a Grand Canyon between the first round and the last, with Marat Safin and Sebastien Grosjean lying in wait for Federer in the top half of the draw and Tim Henman and Mark Philippoussis trying to ambush Roddick in the bottom half.

If Federer and Roddick flourish as a rivalry, it will have an altogether different feel than McEnroe-Connors, who had such genuine distaste for each other it's difficult to conceive of them ever practicing on adjacent courts. Nor will it have the calculated coolness Sampras and Agassi extended toward each other because Federer and Roddick, though they don't socialize, like each other.

"Classy." That's the word Roddick used to describe Federer. And two months ago, at Key Biscayne, Federer surprised a lot of people when he said he wouldn't mind having dinner with Roddick some time. You would have to go back to the days of Rod Laver, Ken Rosewall and Roy Emerson -- all Aussies -- to find a couple of top-five players throwing back beers or dining with each other.

Yet there was Federer and Roddick on the terraced workout courts at Wimbledon on Thursday, exchanging greetings and bantering a bit with each other between rallies.

"Roger and I ... we don't have strong enough personalities to throw stuff at each other. We respect each other, and there's no animosity," Roddick said. "There's no grounds for any sort of animosity."

Their games are different and so are their personalities, but that only feeds a rivalry. Roddick is about 140 mph serves and crushing forehands. Federer doesn't rely on one stroke, but there isn't a vulnerability in his game. He is the most complete player since Bjorn Borg.

Off the court, Roddick dates models and movie stars while Federer's longtime girlfriend is Miroslava Vavrinec, a Swiss former WTA Tour player. Andy is flamboyant, antic, ready to jump out of a plane for the experience. Roger is just as gregarious and approachable, but in a far less public way. Last year, after winning Wimbledon, the mayor of his hometown gave him a cow. He thought it was the grandest gift he ever received.

At 21, Roddick already has far exceeded Sampras' reclusive public persona. He's been on MTV, sat with Jay Leno and made David Letterman laugh. He had a romantic relationship with actress Mandy Moore and his popularity is universal. He gets a lot of play at the French Open because the French like his openness.

By contrast, Federer's warm but somewhat reserved personality is widely accepted in Europe, but he's vastly under-publicized in the United States. That's partly of his own making.

"That's you guys' job," he said when asked how Americans can get to know him better. It also would be his agent's job, if he had one. But, just as he is playing without a coach, he declines to turn his image over to publicity handlers. That's not surprising. That's Roger.

Still, nothing says warm and reserved won't click, even with a fickle tennis public which is right now crying for more excitement. Chris Evert was icy on court, and Martina Navratilova was emotional. It worked beautifully.

As good as these two young men are, their best tennis is ahead of them, and one day before the start of this most prestigious of tournaments, it's not difficult to feel as if you're at the birth of what McEnroe had with Connors and what Sampras attained with Agassi.

Federer and Roddick are not a couple of shooting stars who will sparkle and fade. Even at one and two, they are getting better ... because they want to get better. Since winning Wimbledon, Federer put away his second major, taking the title at this year's Australian Open. He didn't win the U.S. Open because that's where Roddick grasped his first Grand Slam title.

Federer has developed a very solid net game to go with his imperious ground strokes. Meanwhile, Roddick's backhand passing shot is now a weapon, and his second serve, which Federer laid waste to a year ago, is greatly improved. These men remain on a steady upward growth curve.

If they meet in the Wimbledon final, it will be their seventh match against each other, with Federer having won five of the previous six. But three of those matches came when both were feeling their way to the top.

The real barometer of their competition was in 2003, when Federer won at Wimbledon and at the Masters Cup and Roddick at the Canadian Open.

Despite the proximity of their ages, they never played as juniors. "I don't remember Andy at all as a junior," Federer said. Roddick, however, recalls Federer in an odd sort of way.

At the Orange Bowl junior tournament in Miami eight years ago, where Roddick had to qualify for the 14-and-under tournament, one of his best friends, David Martin of Key Biscayne, was being upset by someone Roddick described as small but very smooth.

"Nobody knew the guy," Roddick said. A year later, when Federer's junior stock began to rise quickly, one of Roddick's friends told him: "Remember that Swiss dude?" He remembers him now.

And so Roddick and that Swiss dude have reached the top, where their battles take on more meaning.

"From the fans' point of view, I think it's important that Andy and I have a good rivalry," Federer said. "For the last few years, men's tennis hasn't had much rivalry of any kind. All we need is to face each other many times on big occasions."

There are a lot of tennis fans who would second that motion. Two weeks from today, if it happens, it will give men's tennis what it has been lacking.

J. Corwin
06-20-2004, 10:26 AM
Sometimes I feel like the only person on MTF who would be having virtual orgasms at the thought of a Roger/Andy final. At least some people in the media agree with me. ;)

I'll be orgasming right with you. ;)

Nice article. But enough with this rivalry business. Andy needs to even up the head-to-head a bit more for this to be considered a real rivalry...or at least an entertaining one. ;):)

denim
06-20-2004, 01:53 PM
:worship: :worship: Best of luck A ROD :worship: :worship:

PinkFeatherBoa
06-20-2004, 02:06 PM
OMG I love the pic denim.:lol:

tangerine_dream
06-20-2004, 02:20 PM
:haha: denim! Boy, Roger's got a big head. ;)