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Nadal post match interview

Commander Data
01-24-2008, 11:27 AM
I just read Nadals post match interview:

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2008-01-24/200801241201176322037.html

I think I just felt in love :hearts: I didn't know that I was gay up to this point...:)

I mean this interview is so sweet you gotta love him right?

from this point on I'm gonna be a Nadal Fan. Expect for Rogi to win 1 FO.

scoobs
01-24-2008, 11:30 AM
I play fine, he play better.

It's no wonder we are where we are when he always believes that it's out of his hands.

Stensland
01-24-2008, 11:32 AM
there's things i don't understand though: why doesn't nadal hit the crosscourt-forehand WAY more often? we know he can, so why not do it? then: why can't he adjust during matches regarding the depth of his strokes? he must've notice by set 2 that tsonga took it to him as soon as his strokes dropped like 2-3 m behind the net. why not change that and play the strokes differently?

baghdatis
01-24-2008, 11:38 AM
I don't understand the part when they are talking about someone faking their serve. Can someone clarify this for me? Thanks

Saumon
01-24-2008, 11:40 AM
pression :hearts:

Bibberz
01-24-2008, 11:43 AM
I understood this to mean that Nadal thought JWT might have been intentionally starting the service motion and then stopping before actually serving in order to throw Nadal off. I could be wrong. But if I'm right, I doubt JWT was actually doing this. You'd think it would actually be counterproductive and throw him off.


I don't understand the part when they are talking about someone faking their serve. Can someone clarify this for me? Thanks

MariaV
01-24-2008, 11:48 AM
I understood this to mean that Nadal thought JWT might have been intentionally starting the service motion and then stopping before actually serving in order to throw Nadal off. I could be wrong. But if I'm right, I doubt JWT was actually doing this. You'd think it would actually be counterproductive and throw him off.

I don't understand it clearly either from those Spanish senores and I didn't see the match but I'd say it was the other way around, JWT complained about Rafa 'faking' the serve whatever that means. :shrug:

baghdatis
01-24-2008, 11:48 AM
Thanks for that. The way it was said is really hard for me to understand.

trixtah
01-24-2008, 11:49 AM
"I arrive to the dropshot...Very good shot to the ball...touch the ball shit, very bad"

haha I've never heard this language from him before but he didn't try to blame anything so thumbs up

trixtah
01-24-2008, 11:50 AM
I understood this to mean that Nadal thought JWT might have been intentionally starting the service motion and then stopping before actually serving in order to throw Nadal off. I could be wrong. But if I'm right, I doubt JWT was actually doing this. You'd think it would actually be counterproductive and throw him off.

well it seems that Tsonga told him that he was indeed doing that

Bibberz
01-24-2008, 11:51 AM
Let's not be naive here. He doesn't always believe it's out of his hands. He keeps his answers curt for several reasons. He doesn't want to come off as a jackass who doesn't recognize his opponent's success; his command of English isn't great; he's reluctant to analyze the match for anyone's else's benefit.

It's not like he doesn't try to improve. He's done something right in order to stay #2 for this long. If he was content to merely give credit he wouldn't have improved on grass and hard courts over the years. You're better than that, Scoobs.


I play fine, he play better.

It's no wonder we are where we are when he always believes that it's out of his hands.

adee-gee
01-24-2008, 11:53 AM
Does anyone know if Rafa watches his matches at some point?

I'd be interested if he still believes a lot of what he said after watching it on tv. Statements such as "I was playing fine" and "I tried to play more inside the court" baffle me. :scratch:

Beforehand
01-24-2008, 11:53 AM
It seems sometimes that Rafa suffers from an anti-Williams sister kind of affliction. That is to say that Rafa is sometimes SO eager not to to make an excuse that he can come off as disaffected or clueless when he says things like Mr. Scoobs pointed out "I played well, he played better. What're you gonna do? :shrug: Maybe next time." I guess a post-match interview isn't necessarily the best time to assess your weaknesses on a court, but I guess I'm only talking about perception, not reality. WE all know Rafa cares.

Bibberz
01-24-2008, 11:55 AM
There was one part of the match where Rafa "complained" to the umpire about something. I just assumed that the translator was referring to the same incident. It's still not clear to me.

I don't understand it clearly either from those Spanish senores and I didn't see the match but I'd say it was the other way around, JWT complained about Rafa 'faking' the serve whatever that means. :shrug:

scoobs
01-24-2008, 11:56 AM
Let's not be naive here. He doesn't always believe it's out of his hands. He keeps his answers curt for several reasons. He doesn't want to come off as a jackass who doesn't recognize his opponent's success; his command of English isn't great; he's reluctant to analyze the match for anyone's else's benefit.

It's not like he doesn't try to improve. He's done something right in order to stay #2 for this long. If he was content to merely give credit he wouldn't have improved on grass and hard courts over the years. You're better than that, Scoobs.
I'm not saying he's not trying.

I'm saying it's not working.

And I'm saying that perhaps he needs to be a little bit less generous with the credit and perhaps a little bit more hard on himself for not finding ways out there to change the pattern of the match.

Set 3 was the same as set 2 was the same as set 1. No plan B.

If you're the world #2 and you're being beaten by someone who is playing tremendously well, you either accept it and go down in flames or you try to find a chink in the armour - this may involve you getting out of the comfort zone more, but you should be trying all sorts of things.

Different serving positions, varying where you return, getting to net sometimes as a surprise, changing the pace a bit sometimes.

And it's no good just doing it once, you have to persist until you're sure it's not going to work.

This, more than anything, is my criticism.

Bibberz
01-24-2008, 11:59 AM
I know exactly what you mean. But Scoobs said, "It's no wonder we are where we are when he always believes that it's out of his hands." I understand this to mean that Rafa's fatalistic attitude negatively affects his game. These post-match interviews aren't nearly that revealing, though. That's all I meant.

It seems sometimes that Rafa suffers from an anti-Williams sister kind of affliction. That is to say that Rafa is sometimes SO eager not to to make an excuse that he can come off as disaffected or clueless when he says things like Mr. Scoobs pointed out "I played well, he played better. What're you gonna do? :shrug: Maybe next time." I guess a post-match interview isn't necessarily the best time to assess your weaknesses on a court, but I guess I'm only talking about perception, not reality. WE all know Rafa cares.

scoobs
01-24-2008, 12:03 PM
I know exactly what you mean. But Scoobs said, "It's no wonder we are where we are when he always believes that it's out of his hands." I understand this to mean that Rafa's fatalistic attitude negatively affects his game. These post-match interviews aren't nearly that revealing, though. That's all I meant.
I think though that it does.

The shrugs, the glances back over to his camp with a rueful expression on his face.

You never used to get this from Nadal.

He fought until the bitter end and gave his opponents nothing to feed off.

Not any more.

I'm not saying he rolls over, but it does seem to get away from him these days.

Bibberz
01-24-2008, 12:10 PM
I don't necessarily disagree with any of your analysis of the match. It's my opinion that Rafa (and, indeed, other players) have any number of reasons to praise or deride another player's performance in these interviews.

In this instance, I think Rafa is willing to acknowledge that JWT played extremely well because (1) it's true; and (2) it saves Rafa from genuinely having to analyze what went wrong; (3) it saves Rafa from having to articulate what went wrong.

He says the same damn things in every interview--even after matches in which he tries new things.

I think you're dead on about Rafa's serve, actually. He didn't mix it up at all. I think it was PMac who said that Rafa was trying to implement new strategies in the second and third set. I didn't notice much, though....


I'm not saying he's not trying.

I'm saying it's not working.

And I'm saying that perhaps he needs to be a little bit less generous with the credit and perhaps a little bit more hard on himself for not finding ways out there to change the pattern of the match.

Set 3 was the same as set 2 was the same as set 1. No plan B.

If you're the world #2 and you're being beaten by someone who is playing tremendously well, you either accept it and go down in flames or you try to find a chink in the armour - this may involve you getting out of the comfort zone more, but you should be trying all sorts of things.

Different serving positions, varying where you return, getting to net sometimes as a surprise, changing the pace a bit sometimes.

And it's no good just doing it once, you have to persist until you're sure it's not going to work.

This, more than anything, is my criticism.

Bibberz
01-24-2008, 12:15 PM
This loss didn't seem that different from some other losses. He still fought (or tried to fight) to the bitter end--in this match, he was down two sets, two breaks and 30-0 when he ripped a cross-court backhand. He punctuated it with three or four fist pumps. He had a poor game plan, made too few adjustments, and got blown off the court. It happened in '06 against Blake, it happened last year, and it will happen this year.

I think though that it does.

The shrugs, the glances back over to his camp with a rueful expression on his face.

You never used to get this from Nadal.

He fought until the bitter end and gave his opponents nothing to feed off.

Not any more.

I'm not saying he rolls over, but it does seem to get away from him these days.

Beforehand
01-24-2008, 12:18 PM
I agree that Rafa does tend to get down rather more quickly on hardcourts than grass or of course clay, for the obvious reasons, but yeah. Once he starts getting pushed around, I think it kind of snowballs, and he gets negative and gets pushed around and so he gets more negative and so is easier to push around, ad nauseum.

Auscon
01-24-2008, 12:26 PM
The guys still fist pumping for a point at 2 sets down and 5-2 30-00 down...he's there right til the end

Just nothing he could do tonight, and a very honest and respectful interview from Rafa. Class act and I hope he makes it at least 1 step further come next AO.

KaxMisha
01-24-2008, 12:35 PM
there's things i don't understand though: why doesn't nadal hit the crosscourt-forehand WAY more often? we know he can, so why not do it? then: why can't he adjust during matches regarding the depth of his strokes? he must've notice by set 2 that tsonga took it to him as soon as his strokes dropped like 2-3 m behind the net. why not change that and play the strokes differently?

I agree about the direction thing, but as for the depth - his natural forehand stroke is like that. That's what his technique is made for. Why doesn't he hit deeper? Because he cannot do it consistently. It's just not his game.

The Pro
01-24-2008, 12:53 PM
Nadal hits deeper on clay I think, when he has more time to really wind up his shots and he can stay back without fear of being pushed around so much.

I find on hard courts the hard hitters can push him around and not be too fazed by his spin. He needs a plan B. Running for everything aint a long term solution, not when its his opponents wearing HIM down....

Rommella
01-24-2008, 02:59 PM
Am thinking that Nadal had the US Open as reference. It was a straight sets victory vs. Tsonga there -- which was just 4 months ago, so it was not unreasonable for him to think that he would not be needing a Plan B or C. Who would have thought that Tsonga would have morphed into the giant-killer 4 months onwards?

groundstroke
01-24-2008, 04:03 PM
Tsonga thrashed Nadal, no?

tennizen
01-24-2008, 04:06 PM
Am thinking that Nadal had the US Open as reference. It was a straight sets victory vs. Tsonga there -- which was just 4 months ago, so it was not unreasonable for him to think that he would not be needing a Plan B or C. Who would have thought that Tsonga would have morphed into the giant-killer 4 months onwards?


That's a good point and some that a lot of people seem to miss

jasmin
01-24-2008, 04:08 PM
I like Nadal. I think overall he's a nice guy. I think they ask him the same questions but try to change it up. It's like they are fishing for him to come up with some excuse. I can imagine players hate those interviews.