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Negative Fedtards

Sean
01-23-2008, 07:11 PM
I cant believe some Fedtards are so negative about the semi.

Djokovic is really good player and can beat Federer on an excepetional day where Fed is waay off, but seriously Fed is a level above this guy Even if only at 80%.

He won't have it all his own way but still he will have more than enough. The record is 5-1 Fed not 5-1 Nole for a reason.

juninhOH
01-23-2008, 07:19 PM
To me it's 1-1. Djokovic had the breakthrough last year after Roland Garros, thats where it started to count.

When Federer beats Hewitt, noone say 'now its 13-7', they say 'Federer has now 11 consecutive wins over Hewitt' :P

FedFan_2007
01-23-2008, 07:25 PM
I agree, I don't consider any results before Djoko joined the top 5 as very relevant. Basically it's 1-1, and a more important 1-0 in grand slams.

Bobby
01-23-2008, 07:33 PM
Sure Federer is the favourite. But upsets do happen. Tipsarevic was able to make the match extremely tight and Federer was the clear favourite in that match. Djokovic has the game to hurt Federer. Besides, I wouldn't pay too much attention to the previous matches. Djokovic is developing as a player and he is still very young. Federer on the other hand is on the top of his game. So eventually there will be a time when Djokovic will start winning more matches against Federer.

Sean
01-23-2008, 07:41 PM
Sure Federer is the favourite. But upsets do happen. Tipsarevic was able to make the match extremely tight and Federer was the clear favourite in that match. Djokovic has the game to hurt Federer. Besides, I wouldn't pay too much attention to the previous matches. Djokovic is developing as a player and he is still very young. Federer on the other hand is on the top of his game. So eventually there will be a time when Djokovic will start winning more matches against Federer.

That Tipsy match kicked him into gear if anything. Im sure Djoko-Fed h2h will be less lopsided in a couple of years, but right now I feel Federer is the far better player. He may have an off-day whereby Nole would win, but usaully when people talk up his oppenant he shows the world who's boss.

adee-gee
01-23-2008, 07:53 PM
They're not negative, they're idiots ;)

Greenday
01-23-2008, 07:54 PM
They're not negative, they're idiots ;)

Like you

RonE
01-23-2008, 08:06 PM
They're not negative, they're idiots ;)

Actually realistic. I have seen many people make posts arguing that Djokovic's baseline game is more consistent ATM than Federer's and should that pattern continue on Friday he will have a good chance of beating him.

I can't say I disagree with that line of reasoning :shrug:

One thing is for sure- Federer will have to step it up big time, hit with more depth and authority especially off the forehand wing and mix up the game by varying between the drive and sliced backhands and opening up the court using a variety of deep and angled shots.

He also needs to step in and attack the second serves rather than just bunt them back as he has been doing.

If he can do all that and serve the way he has been, the sets will still be competitive and will not be blowouts by any stretch of the imagination, but Federer will be comfortably favoured to win the match.

If he doesn't do the above mentioned, it will be a dogfight. We know that Nole will play consistenly, hitting deep penetrating shots, not making very many errors and punishing any weak serves. It is therefore up to Roger to make the impact on this match.

dragons112
01-23-2008, 08:11 PM
Novak will beat him because roger is not slicing anymore. he relies on forehand and backhand. He cant wint that way

adee-gee
01-23-2008, 08:15 PM
Actually realistic. I have seen many people make posts arguing that Djokovic's baseline game is more consistent ATM than Federer's and should that pattern continue on Friday he will have a good chance of beating him.

I can't say I disagree with that line of reasoning :shrug:

One thing is for sure- Federer will have to step it up big time, hit with more depth and authority especially off the forehand wing and mix up the game by varying between the drive and sliced backhands and opening up the court using a variety of deep and angled shots.

He also needs to step in and attack the second serves rather than just bunt them back as he has been doing.

If he can do all that and serve the way he has been, the sets will still be competitive and will not be blowouts by any stretch of the imagination, but Federer will be comfortably favoured to win the match.

If he doesn't do the above mentioned, it will be a dogfight. We know that Nole will play consistenly, hitting deep penetrating shots, not making very many errors and punishing any weak serves. It is therefore up to Roger to make the impact on this match.
Fair points, and of course Djokovic has a chance with the way he's playing. To suggest he's favourite is ludicrous though, if he wins it'll be a surprise.

Federer will step it up, and it's not like he's playing that badly, he's just taken out 2 very good players in straight sets. If you want to see someone who has reached the SF without playing particularly well, look no further than Nadal.

Experience will also play a part, as will his superior fitness.

Bibberz
01-23-2008, 08:19 PM
I really hope Federer loses, but I'm not holding my breath on that one. Three seems like an impossibly high number of sets to take off Federer. That said, Djokovic's serve and TB clutchness might get him two sets, and if he borrows Tipsy's lucky glasses, he might even secure the third.

RonE
01-23-2008, 08:26 PM
Fair points, and of course Djokovic has a chance with the way he's playing. To suggest he's favourite is ludicrous though, if he wins it'll be a surprise.

Surprise? Yes and no. Surprising maybe on paper because of the rankings and respective resumees of each player. But in terms of the way the matchup plays out based on their last two matches I wouldn't go so far as to call it a "surprise".


Federer will step it up, and it's not like he's playing that badly, he's just taken out 2 very good players in straight sets. If you want to see someone who has reached the SF without playing particularly well, look no further than Nadal.

I haven't seen any of Nadal's matches so far so I can't comment, but then again I am guessing he probably played as well as he had to and has not dropped a set yet so he can't be playing that badly.


Experience will also play a part, as will his superior fitness.

Nole has been a very consistent performer in the last 4 slams so it is not like he is completely inexperienced. Plus, I have no doubt he learned a lot from the U.S. Open final match he played against Federer so it will be interesting to see how his tactics differ in this match.

Regarding the fitness- I personally think many people are over-hyping Novak's fitness issues and that should they get to say 8-8 in the fifth adrenaline may be enough to see him through. Mentally he is more than strong enough to cope with such a situation and has proven it on a number of occassions.

calvinhobbes
01-23-2008, 08:28 PM
Neither negative nor idiotic. We fedtards are only concerned about the possibilities of Djoko winning this business. Personally I don´t see Nole taking this match. He´s overhyped by his two recent victories, and everyone knows that any player´s virtuosity becomes ridiculuosly high when his rival plays according to an expected patron, compelled by fatigue (Hewitt) or by small lesions (Pics). Roger has Djoco´s number and will know how to manage the fractal pluses that Nole may exhibit. I hope Roger will tighten some clevises along the match and tune-up for a wonderful concerto. NID. :devil::devil::devil: