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Federer vs. Djokovic, WWW?

scarecrows
01-23-2008, 09:49 AM
if Fed plays like today Djokovic in 4

Rogiman
01-23-2008, 09:53 AM
Djokovic 6:2 3:6 6:4 7:6

zcess81
01-23-2008, 09:53 AM
djokovic-federer is the final before final...whoever wins this is gonna win the whole tournament. Reminds me of Federer-Safin semis in 2005.

Rogiman
01-23-2008, 09:55 AM
djokovic-federer is the final before final...whoever wins this is gonna win the whole tournament. Reminds me of Federer-Safin semis in 2005.Whoever wins this is the REAL champion. The winner, however, will be Nadal :sad:

tripb19
01-23-2008, 09:55 AM
Federer in 5. Bookmark it.

FedFan_2007
01-23-2008, 09:56 AM
This is the most epic semifinal since the won 3 years ago vs Safin.

zcess81
01-23-2008, 09:57 AM
Nadal was EXTREMELY LUCKY with the draw...he hasn't played ANY decent players yet! Shocking! How could the draw be THAT uneven. Feds half was BY FAR the most difficult.

Rogiman
01-23-2008, 09:59 AM
Nadal was EXTREMELY LUCKY with the draw...he hasn't played ANY decent players yet! Shocking! How could the draw be THAT uneven. Feds half was BY FAR the most difficult.<------ The answer to your question

Byrd
01-23-2008, 10:01 AM
Hmmm a possible 5 setter here, if it does, Fed for the win, Djoko will need to win in straights (doubt it) or four(which is very likely) because I still don't think hes physically fit enough for a 5 setter.

Exodus
01-23-2008, 10:01 AM
Nadal was EXTREMELY LUCKY with the draw...he hasn't played ANY decent players yet! Shocking! How could the draw be THAT uneven. Feds half was BY FAR the most difficult.

he is always lucky now lets hope Ali "tsonga" is the real deal. hope safin will meet nadal in the round one in FO and Wimbledon.

FedFan_2007
01-23-2008, 10:02 AM
The goods news for Fed is he got blooded before reaching Djoke, so he's more or less in form. Nadal on the other hand has been untested and will fall to Tsonga. Mark my words about that one.

Labamba
01-23-2008, 10:02 AM
Federer needs to turn on the magic to beat Djokovic here, I'm sure he'll play better than today. Still it might not be enough...Djoker in 5

FedFan_2007
01-23-2008, 10:02 AM
he is always lucky now lets hope Ali "tsonga" is the real deal. hope safin will meet nadal in the round one in FO and Wimbledon.

:retard: No way Safin is low-ranked enough to meet Nadal in a 1st round of a slam :retard:

zcess81
01-23-2008, 10:04 AM
<------ The answer to your question


I understand what you're saying, but even if djokovic-federer match goes on to 5 sets and nadal wins in 3, he still won't win the final in my opinion. Both federer and djokovic haven't had that many long matches (except federer against tipsarevic) so both will be fit for the final. Nadal on the other hand hasn't been tested yet and that may prove to be his downfall in the final.

Exodus
01-23-2008, 10:04 AM
:retard: No way Safin is low-ranked enough to meet Nadal in a 1st round of a slam :retard:

he is ranked pretty low about 60-70 i think after AO so he could meet nadal i think

dylan24
01-23-2008, 10:04 AM
fed in 3
he will raise his game

adee-gee
01-23-2008, 10:04 AM
Hopefully Nole (and preferably in 5) but I think Federer in 4.

aeronatasha
01-23-2008, 10:04 AM
I'd go with Fed. It's far too important for him.
Though I'd like Novak to prove me wrong, cause he certainly has the quality to win this match, if his nerves hold up.

Something strange is going on, both Federer and Djokovic struggled to close the final set, haven't seen that in a while.

FedFan_2007
01-23-2008, 10:05 AM
Federer needs to turn on the magic to beat Djokovic here, I'm sure he'll play better than today. Still it might not be enough...Djoker in 5

Mark my words, one of Fed's big tactics he will use against Djoker will be those low topspin wide-angle forehands and backhands. I hope Djoke doesn't read this post. :(

FedFan_2007
01-23-2008, 10:05 AM
fed in 3
he will raise his game

They're saying that the lack of bakery products is a proof of Roger's decline.

Rogiman
01-23-2008, 10:06 AM
Mark my words, one of Fed's big tactics he will use against Djoker will be those low topspin wide-angle forehands and backhands. I hope Djoke doesn't read this post. :(:rolls:

Fed-Fuck, you definitely have your moments :lol:

tennis2tennis
01-23-2008, 10:07 AM
I'll go for federer in 3 straight close sets or in 4.

Byrd
01-23-2008, 10:08 AM
low topspin....hahaha

Exodus
01-23-2008, 10:08 AM
def. rogers most diffult match at AO if he can defeat joker nadal in the final should be a cakewalk

t0x
01-23-2008, 10:08 AM
I really want Fed to win.

But Djoko has been playing really good tennis. Unless Roger steps it up I see Djoko winning this in 4.

FedFan_2007
01-23-2008, 10:08 AM
Rogiman - go fuck yourself

HeretiC
01-23-2008, 10:09 AM
If he doesn't gear up by 2 speeds and Nole plays the same, he might lose it in straights. But I still think it is going to be Djoker in 4.

Tabledott
01-23-2008, 10:09 AM
Fed in 3, maybe 4, never in doubt

Art&Soul
01-23-2008, 10:13 AM
i hope Fed in 3 or 4 GOOOOOOOOO ROGI :angel:

scarecrows
01-23-2008, 10:13 AM
fed in 3
he will raise his game

never seen dylan this optimistic

that must mean something

Federer&Hingis
01-23-2008, 10:15 AM
Fed in 4

cc2monac
01-23-2008, 10:21 AM
let say Nole in 5 sets!

Greenday
01-23-2008, 10:22 AM
Anyone remmember Fed's match against robredo at last year's QF and his match against andy in the SF,,,,,u cant predict anything with fed nowadays, but i believe he will be up to task,,,djoke was breathing heavily in the 3rd set today, if it goes to the distance fed should be fine i believe,,,,,djoke doing it in straight sets is his best shot and i dont think tht will happen,,,we shall see

Himura
01-23-2008, 10:27 AM
If feds is smart he should slice his way to victory on this low-bouncing surface

Bascule
01-23-2008, 10:31 AM
Poll results so far are 23:23, what is very interesting, and means that SF will be extremely exiting.
Nadal was lucky one, but not the winner.

Apemant
01-23-2008, 10:31 AM
Hard to predict; basically, as with 90% of his matches, it will depend on Fed's level. Nole is pretty much a known quantity, his game is rock-solid almost always, and that powerful game is more than enough to beat a regular Fed. However, a clinic Fed is still comfortably above Nole... that being said, I'd give a slight edge to Nole anyway, like 55-45 :) based purely on lack of really awesome display by Fed in this AO (since Santoro).

Needless to say, if Nole does indeed beat Fed in SF, there's no stopping him in the final. He'll get a tremendous boost of confidence and just steamroll the other side with ease - unles I got this completely wrong. :)

scoobs
01-23-2008, 10:34 AM
I have a feeling of foreboding here.

I feel the time is ripe for Federer to be toppled at this stage, and Djokovic is the right player who could do it.

Djokovic in 5 is my honest prediction, unfortunately.

Daniel
01-23-2008, 10:36 AM
Federer in 3.

Stensland
01-23-2008, 10:37 AM
federer in 4 tight sets.

Jaap
01-23-2008, 10:38 AM
Djokovic in 4.

MatchFederer
01-23-2008, 10:39 AM
What the HECK is going on these days? Dylan reckons Federer will win in 3 sets and Rogiman is going insane and repeating at every given opportunity that Nadal will win this tournament (shut up).

.. People are turning into a bunch of freakin' nuts.

doddel
01-23-2008, 10:39 AM
judging from what we've seen so far: Djoko in 4

BUT

always when we think: this will be a difficult match for Fed, he's walked away with it (except against Nadal). So Fed in 4

Blondie1985
01-23-2008, 10:42 AM
fed in four!

bokehlicious
01-23-2008, 10:43 AM
The superior player will win: Djokovic

kronus12
01-23-2008, 11:20 AM
fed will win the first two sets in TB and then bagel Nole in the 3rd.

fed in 3 of course.

fishfriend
01-23-2008, 11:41 AM
Fed in three tiebreaks saving 12 set points

Adler
01-23-2008, 12:14 PM
I have a feeling of foreboding here.

I feel the time is ripe for Federer to be toppled at this stage, and Djokovic is the right player who could do it.

Djokovic in 5 is my honest prediction, unfortunately.
I've got the same feeling. Djoko in 4/5

shaggy
01-23-2008, 12:15 PM
djokovic on hard is strong almost as nadal on clay. only difference federer and many others are better on hard. i think nole will win here, in 4 sets.

Bascule
01-23-2008, 12:16 PM
So far, 52:43 for Federer.

scarecrows
01-23-2008, 12:22 PM
So far, 52:43 for Federer.

never been so close in a Fed match outside of clay, even before playing a red hot Nalbandian in Paris

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=112624

TMJordan
01-23-2008, 12:27 PM
Federer is no longer the dominate force he once was.

Djokovic in 4.

bluesky_rachel
01-23-2008, 12:27 PM
I think Nole is likely to win if he plays a solid game like he did in the last few matches.But Nole is lack of experiences.If he can get through tough moments in the match,he could do it.
Nole in 4!:worship::p

Bascule
01-23-2008, 12:29 PM
never been so close in a Fed match outside of clay, even before playing a red hot Nalbandian in Paris

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=112624

Right, 45% voted for Djokovic, it was 42% for Nalbadian, as I remember.

juninhOH
01-23-2008, 12:36 PM
I think Federer in 3 too, 76 64 75

Vlad
01-23-2008, 12:44 PM
I have a hunch that Nole will take this one in 4 sets

Commander Data
01-23-2008, 12:55 PM
People who think Fed is done make me smile. Maybe lets wait until he looses at least one single match okay?!

If Fed is Fed he wins. he wasn't at his best until now. nothing new here, and now the challenge is here. my guess he will step it up as usual.

1st fed 2nd set Djoko 3 set Fed 4set Fed

Then everybody will say, if, if, if if... Djoko had made this break points if blabla...:p

bittertea
01-23-2008, 01:00 PM
The Djoker in 4.

yanchr
01-23-2008, 01:02 PM
From what I've seen so far, unfortunately Djokovic in 4 I think. I'd really love that Roger steps up in the semi to prove me wrong cuz I will never want him to lose in a Grand Slam esp when I will be watching him in the stadium...pls Roger COME ON!!!

RonE
01-23-2008, 01:10 PM
Probably McNoleo in 4, possibly 3.

Xristos
01-23-2008, 01:13 PM
Fed in 4.

lisaplenske
01-23-2008, 01:41 PM
Federer didnt impress me during this first AO week,he played good but not as "dominant" as he was last year,at the same place.
Djokovic seems to be in great shape and inspired inhis quarter final against ferrer.
The swiss has to raise his game,much more than what he produced today against blake...
I predict a long and tough match.Very close.

RagingLamb
01-23-2008, 01:54 PM
Djokovic in 4, the boy's on a mission

Ranger
01-23-2008, 02:25 PM
Djokovic is mature for the final. I hope he will win.

MarcelaTauro
01-23-2008, 02:29 PM
Roger needs to play at his best to beat Djokovic.If he beat Novak the other match will be just a test for him.

Roger in 4sets.

stebs
01-23-2008, 02:52 PM
Djokovic in 5 sets.

Adler
01-23-2008, 02:57 PM
Man, the poll is kinda close one

bokehlicious
01-23-2008, 03:05 PM
Then everybody will say, if, if, if if... Djoko had made this break points if blabla...:p

IF Roger manages to pull off the win it will either be 1. Nole chokes, 2. Fed is a Luckbox, or 3. Both.

Never in doubt :zzz:

cmurray
01-23-2008, 03:16 PM
Djokovic in 5 sets.

That's what I think too.

BTW, never in my life have I seen such whining about a draw. Some of you act as though it's Nadal's fault that Murray, Gasquet, Davydenko and Youzhny lost early. :rolleyes: You want to blame someone? Blame Tsonga. Of course, when he beats Nadal, he'll be everyone's new hero, anyway. :rolleyes:

Månu
01-23-2008, 03:18 PM
Federer in 5. Bookmark it.

+1

stebs
01-23-2008, 03:21 PM
That's what I think too.

BTW, never in my life have I seen such whining about a draw. Some of you act as though it's Nadal's fault that Murray, Gasquet, Davydenko and Youzhny lost early. :rolleyes: You want to blame someone? Blame Tsonga. Of course, when he beats Nadal, he'll be everyone's new hero, anyway. :rolleyes:

Pick better who you direct comments like this at. I haven't whined about the draw at all, if Nadal wins this title he will have to beat Djokovic or Federer and if he does that he is good enough to be a GS champ. Yes he got a good draw but that's the end of the matter for me. I am not whining about anything.

Cervantes
01-23-2008, 03:22 PM
tennis in 5.

cmurray
01-23-2008, 03:23 PM
Pick better who you direct comments like this at. I haven't whined about the draw at all, if Nadal wins this title he will have to beat Djokovic or Federer and if he does that he is good enough to be a GS champ. Yes he got a good draw but that's the end of the matter for me. I am not whining about anything.

Sorry Stebs. Wasn't referring to you at all. I only quoted your post because I agreed with your assessment of the match. I was referring to the thread in general with the draw bit. Should have made that more clear.

Apemant
01-23-2008, 03:23 PM
Pick better who you direct comments like this at.

Don't think it was directed at you, though ;)

rofe
01-23-2008, 03:26 PM
This is the one match in this tournament in which I am prepared for a Fed loss. I also think he won't go down without a fight. Novak has been playing good, solid tennis and Fed has had flashes of brilliance but not at a level required to win his match against Novak. He may find it during the SF but I am not counting on it.

stebs
01-23-2008, 03:26 PM
Sorry Stebs. Wasn't referring to you at all. I only quoted your post because I agreed with your assessment of the match. I was referring to the thread in general with the draw bit. Should have made that more clear.

:yeah:

I think the truth is if Tsonga plays as he has been doing these past weeks Nadal has a mammothtask on his hands anyway.

This Federer - Djokovic match could end up being quite a match I think.

cmurray
01-23-2008, 03:30 PM
:yeah:

I think the truth is if Tsonga plays as he has been doing these past weeks Nadal has a mammothtask on his hands anyway.

This Federer - Djokovic match could end up being quite a match I think.

I think Tsonga has the edge, actually. I'm prepared for a Nadal loss. IF Nadal wins though, he will reap the benefit of Federer and Djokovic knocking the crap out of each other in the semis. I can't wait for this match. And OH how I hope Roger wins.

stebs
01-23-2008, 03:32 PM
I think Tsonga has the edge, actually. I'm prepared for a Nadal loss. IF Nadal wins though, he will reap the benefit of Federer and Djokovic knocking the crap out of each other in the semis. I can't wait for this match. And OH how I hope Roger wins.

None of Nadal/Tsonga/Federer/Djokovic will be destroyed by their semi's. Two days to recover, people put too much emphasis on tiredness, these guys are professional athletes and certainly can fight long and hard and have two days rest and fight again. There are many examples and for me there is too much importance put on this when really these guys are likely to be match tough for days in a row if need be and if they get a days rest they will be fine even after a 4 hour encounter.

Mr. Magassi
01-23-2008, 03:46 PM
Roger will have to raise his game... I'm a bit worried about D-Joke... GO FED!

dijus
01-23-2008, 03:52 PM
Nole, in 4 or 5 sets

the answer
01-23-2008, 03:55 PM
Federer play's a couple of matches below his standards (witch is still enough to beat the majority of the ATP) and suddenly he is been written him off? Even by the so called "federer fans". This reminds of the The US Open final where a lot people where doubting him. It's kinda sad if you think about it. Here is a man with 12 Grand Slams, 15th successive Grand Slam semi-final, has a 5-1 edge over his opponent including 2 matches in a Grand Slam, both in straight sets the AO one was a spanking and in the US Open final he played his worst Grand Slam final till date and still managed to defeat Djokovic.
I hope that the better player wins but it's retarded to even consider Djokovic as the favorite. Really, haven't you people learned from the past ?? Every time you doubt the man he puts on a blazing performance. Poor guy no matter what he does these days you guys are never satisfied.

scoobs
01-23-2008, 04:03 PM
Just because you're a fan doesn't mean you can't predict he won't win the match.

I very much hope he does step it up and pour it on.

I just feel like this time Djokovic will have his number.

I'm certainly not "writing him off" because supporting him does not mean blindly believing he will win every match he plays.

Not to me, anyway.

Commander Data
01-23-2008, 04:03 PM
IF Roger manages to pull off the win it will either be 1. Nole chokes, 2. Fed is a Luckbox, or 3. Both.

Never in doubt :zzz:

somehow I have the impression you like to be sarcastic..

stebs
01-23-2008, 04:07 PM
Just because you're a fan doesn't mean you can't predict he won't win the match.

I very much hope he does step it up and pour it on.

I just feel like this time Djokovic will have his number.

I'm certainly not "writing him off" because supporting him does not mean blindly believing he will win every match he plays.

Not to me, anyway.

:yeah:

I don't see why a fan of a player has a responsibility to predict that player will win a match.

the answer
01-23-2008, 04:08 PM
Just because you're a fan doesn't mean you can't predict he won't win the match.

I very much hope he does step it up and pour it on.

I just feel like this time Djokovic will have his number.

I'm certainly not "writing him off" because supporting him does not mean blindly believing he will win every match he plays.

Not to me, anyway.

If I'm not mistaking you where one of the many that predicted him to lose in the US Open final (I might be wrong though).

RagingLamb
01-23-2008, 04:08 PM
The USO score line doesn't tell the whole story. Nole had Federer (for set 1) but gave away the first set.

And when you look at the 5-1 you have to realize that nole wasn't the player he is now during most of that.

Nole has been very consistent, and I think he's got a very good chance. So good that I don't think there is a clear favorite going into this. In fact, I personally think Nole's got the edge.

the answer
01-23-2008, 04:10 PM
The USO score line doesn't tell the whole story. Nole had Federer but gave away the first set.

And the when you look at the 5-1 you have to realize that nole wasn't the player he is now during most of that.

Nole has been very consistent, and I think he's got a very good chance. So good that I don't think there is a clear favorite going into this. In fact, I personally think Nole's got the edge.

Based on what?

Commander Data
01-23-2008, 04:11 PM
Federer play's a couple of matches below his standards (witch is still enough to beat the majority of the ATP) and suddenly he is been written him off? Even by the so called "federer fans". This reminds of the The US Open final where a lot people where doubting him. It's kinda sad if you think about it. Here is a man with 12 Grand Slams, 15th successive Grand Slam semi-final, has a 5-1 edge over his opponent including 2 matches in a Grand Slam, both in straight sets the AO one was a spanking and in the US Open final he played his worst Grand Slam final till date and still managed to defeat Djokovic.
I hope that the better player wins but it's retarded to even consider Djokovic as the favorite. Really, haven't you people learned from the past ?? Every time you doubt the man he puts on a blazing performance. Poor guy no matter what he does these days you guys are never satisfied.

Yeah your are right. people here are like a weather vane. As soon as somebody hits a winner he is the next Federer

avocadoe
01-23-2008, 04:12 PM
I usually avoid posting my reasons but it all seems relatively sane today, with a bit of extremism to make the majority hang tougher. I expect a vey good match. I expect Djokovic will do much better with his nerves than at the USO final. I expect Roger will play at the highest level so far in the tournament. I mean against Hartfield and Santoro he was kinda great but Djokovic is much stiffer competition. Both men will be highly motivted to say the least. Night play will help Nole a bit, as the heat is still challenging to his breathing. So, I want Federer to win and think he will in 4 sets or five. That said I expect that Nole will beat him on the big stage one of these days, and it could be here. Otherwise, I'm going to try to enjoy to great semis. I am excited that Tsonga is fially showing his stuff. Nadal looks in great form himself. So there I think Nadal will win, but it depends how Tsonga respons to the spins, weight and consistency of Nadal, and how much his power disrupts Nadal, and if his finesse has an impact.

Bad Religion
01-23-2008, 04:13 PM
Djokovic will rip Federer a fat one

Nole is playing like a man possesed by the Devil :eek:

scoobs
01-23-2008, 04:19 PM
If I'm not mistaking you where one of the many that predicted him to lose in the US Open final (I might be wrong though).
No, I expected Roger to win that one and nearly had kittens at how many chances he gave Djokovic to get into the match properly.

That, coupled with the loss in Montreal, made clear to me that Roger is becoming more vulnerable to the style of play that Djokovic brings and the fact that Djokovic is increasingly confident and assertive of his own abilities to beat Federer. I don't expect him to make the same mistakes this time when presented with opportunities, and I don't think Federer is currently playing well enough to keep matters entirely out of Djokovic's hands. Nole and Janko Tipsarevic discussed playing Roger before the latter's match, they discussed tactics and attitude and we saw the results, Tipsarevic made Roger fight very hard to get that win. I think Djokovic is itching to right a few wrongs in how he handled the US Open match.

I think if Federer steps it up out there, finds the JesusFed switch and takes it to Djokovic, it's in his hands.

If he doesn't, I think Djokovic has more than enough firepower and self belief to break down the Federer forehand.

Agassi Fan
01-23-2008, 04:26 PM
I hope Djoko will win.

RagingLamb
01-23-2008, 04:27 PM
Based on what?

Well, this is just an opinion, but I think he's been more consistent, and he's hungrier. He's not terrible on hard courts against Fed, and at the USO I think not having been in a final before played a factor. So I think he'll be better than USO whereas Federer is not better this year than he was last year. Therefore, I give Nole the edge.

But all of this is really based on my very subjective and loose assessment of what has transpired so far. It's just and opinion.

RagingLamb
01-23-2008, 04:29 PM
No, I expected Roger to win that one and nearly had kittens at how many chances he gave Djokovic to get into the match properly.

That, coupled with the loss in Montreal, made clear to me that Roger is becoming more vulnerable to the style of play that Djokovic brings and the fact that Djokovic is increasingly confident and assertive of his own abilities to beat Federer. I don't expect him to make the same mistakes this time when presented with opportunities, and I don't think Federer is currently playing well enough to keep matters entirely out of Djokovic's hands. Nole and Janko Tipsarevic discussed playing Roger before the latter's match, they discussed tactics and attitude and we saw the results, Tipsarevic made Roger fight very hard to get that win. I think Djokovic is itching to right a few wrongs in how he handled the US Open match.

I think if Federer steps it up out there, finds the JesusFed switch and takes it to Djokovic, it's in his hands.

If he doesn't, I think Djokovic has more than enough firepower and self belief to break down the Federer forehand.

This is exactly why I think Nole's gonna win it. Unless as you pointed out JesusFed shows up.

rwn
01-23-2008, 04:31 PM
I am shocked by all those people giving Djokovic the edge. I simply don't understand why. Djokovic plays solid this tournament, nothing more. My opinion: Federer will show again why he lost only one grand slam match off clay in the last 4 years.

Apemant
01-23-2008, 04:31 PM
I think if Federer steps it up out there, finds the JesusFed switch and takes it to Djokovic, it's in his hands.

If he doesn't, I think Djokovic has more than enough firepower and self belief to break down the Federer forehand.

Exactly... the unknown factor in this match is the level of Federer... I think we can safely assume Nole will play VERY well. So it boils down to whether Fed will also bring his best, in which case he should be the clear winner, or he will produce a Wimby- and USO-like passive performance which I don't think will be enough this time.

scoobs
01-23-2008, 04:37 PM
I am shocked by all those people giving Djokovic the edge. I simply don't understand why. Djokovic plays solid this tournament, nothing more. My opinion: Federer will show again why he lost only one grand slam match off clay in the last 4 years.
I don't know why - he has to lose at a Grand Slam before the final to someone other than Nadal at the French at some time.

To my mind, the circumstance seem about right for that to happen here.

I very much hope I am wrong.

cardio
01-23-2008, 04:40 PM
Djokovic and Federer played 3 best of 5 matches so far. Nole always lost 0:3. Perhaps he is able to take a set or two now, but I cant see him win three. Federer has amazing ability to play his best tennis when it is absolutely necessary. I predict Fed will win 3:1

Sagacious
01-23-2008, 05:00 PM
Fed in 3 :)

Sagacious
01-23-2008, 05:03 PM
Wow... 'Djokovic 3-1' leads the poll with 50 votes!

wcr
01-23-2008, 05:05 PM
Federer play's a couple of matches below his standards (witch is still enough to beat the majority of the ATP) and suddenly he is been written him off? Even by the so called "federer fans". This reminds of the The US Open final where a lot people where doubting him. It's kinda sad if you think about it. Here is a man with 12 Grand Slams, 15th successive Grand Slam semi-final, has a 5-1 edge over his opponent including 2 matches in a Grand Slam, both in straight sets the AO one was a spanking and in the US Open final he played his worst Grand Slam final till date and still managed to defeat Djokovic.
I hope that the better player wins but it's retarded to even consider Djokovic as the favorite. Really, haven't you people learned from the past ?? Every time you doubt the man he puts on a blazing performance. Poor guy no matter what he does these days you guys are never satisfied.

Good to see that some folks around here are using their noggins. Roger came into the AO the same way he came into Montreal last year - long vacation and no match practice. Unlike most, he's good enough to find his timing, footwork and game all the while winning round after round. And now he's supposed to be "JesusFed" to beat anyone left in the draw? Too many folks around here get their ideas about tennis by listening to the media. Courier's about the only one who's got it right about Fed now.

Having said all that, I suspect we'll see the return of his sublime game - where he runs away with matches with poetic shot making in the extreme - once he's overtaken Sampras' tally on GS titles. There's still enormous pressure on him as the world watches his historical march toward greatness and no matter what anyone says that's about the biggest monkey anyone can have on their back.

rofe
01-23-2008, 05:13 PM
Good to see that some folks around here are using their noggins. Roger came into the AO the same way he came into Montreal last year - long vacation and no match practice. Unlike most, he's good enough to find his timing, footwork and game all the while winning round after round. And now he's supposed to be "JesusFed" to beat anyone left in the draw? Too many folks around here get their ideas about tennis by listening to the media. Courier's about the only one who's got it right about Fed now.

Having said all that, I suspect we'll see the return of his sublime game - where he runs away with matches with poetic shot making in the extreme - once he's overtaken Sampras' tally on GS titles. There's still enormous pressure on him as the world watches his historical march toward greatness and no matter what anyone says that's about the biggest monkey anyone can have on their back.

This has been discussed before but we are simply discussing his next match at AO 2008 and in general his form has been off and on as he has progressed through the tournament. Yes, there is incredible pressure on him but we are simply wondering about his W-L in the next match.

To paraphrase Agassi, Fed doesn't need to be in "JesusFed" mode, he just needs to be better than Novak. Will he be? Not based on the form he has displayed in this tournament.

tennisgal_001
01-23-2008, 05:13 PM
I look forward to playing my best tennis about Novak Djokovic. I look forward to playing to win. That's what my mindset is, really.

Federer in 4. He's just as hungry as Djokovic is, and when Federer wants something badly he turns into an unstoppable beast.

scoobs
01-23-2008, 05:15 PM
Good to see that some folks around here are using their noggins. Roger came into the AO the same way he came into Montreal last year - long vacation and no match practice. Unlike most, he's good enough to find his timing, footwork and game all the while winning round after round. And now he's supposed to be "JesusFed" to beat anyone left in the draw? Too many folks around here get their ideas about tennis by listening to the media. Courier's about the only one who's got it right about Fed now.

Having said all that, I suspect we'll see the return of his sublime game - where he runs away with matches with poetic shot making in the extreme - once he's overtaken Sampras' tally on GS titles. There's still enormous pressure on him as the world watches his historical march toward greatness and no matter what anyone says that's about the biggest monkey anyone can have on their back.
I don't think there's any need to imply that people who are seeing the same situation that you do but are projecting a different outcome to you are "not using their noggins".

You'll also recall that Roger lost in the final of Montreal - to Djokovic.

rwn
01-23-2008, 05:28 PM
This has been discussed before but we are simply discussing his next match at AO 2008 and in general his form has been off and on as he has progressed through the tournament. Yes, there is incredible pressure on him but we are simply wondering about his W-L in the next match.

To paraphrase Agassi, Fed doesn't need to be in "JesusFed" mode, he just needs to be better than Novak. Will he be? Not based on the form he has displayed in this tournament.

Here are the simple facts:

Djokovic 160 winners 136 unforced errors in 5 matches
Federer 278 winners 137 unforced errors in 5 matches

You're wrong.

Meadowsweet
01-23-2008, 05:31 PM
I am a huge Federer fan, and I do think that he can win any match, but I am not sure if he is going to win this one (of course I hope he will). I think nobody can know, we’ll just have to wait and see. Roger is a superb player but Novak is also excellent, he has been playing very consistently and has shown no weakness during this year’s AO. I think it will be a very tough match for both of them and their chances are probably equal. Still, I would give an advantage to Federer because, it seems that he has this ability to outplay his opponents even when he’s not playing his best and he can raise his game always. Just remember Hamburg final last year – he lost the first set 6-2 (if I remember well..) but by the middle of the second set there was no Nadal on the court. I’m not going to say anything about the third set…..and nobody really thought that he WOULD do it (although we all knew he COULD). So, anything can happen on Saturday….. I’d like to see a Federer – Tsonga final, I’m just curious about how Fed would play against Tsonga….

Horatio Caine
01-23-2008, 05:33 PM
Here are the simple facts:

Djokovic 160 winners 136 unforced errors in 5 matches
Federer 278 winners 137 unforced errors in 5 matches

You're wrong.

Nole has played Hewitt and Ferrer in recent rounds...not so easy to hit winners past either of them.

Federer has played...Tipsarevic?

the answer
01-23-2008, 05:37 PM
Nole has played Hewitt and Ferrer in recent rounds...not so easy to hit winners past either of them.

Federer has played...Tipsarevic?

...Blake,Berdych and Santoro you know the old guy that embarrassed Djokovic in the first round of the Paris Masters. But hey I can't say that I'm supprised to see a Roddick fan jump on the Djokovic bandwagon It's one of their only hopes to see Federer lose.

FedFan_2007
01-23-2008, 05:49 PM
Roddick fans are truly desperate these days.

Greenday
01-23-2008, 05:56 PM
No, I expected Roger to win that one and nearly had kittens at how many chances he gave Djokovic to get into the match properly.

That, coupled with the loss in Montreal, made clear to me that Roger is becoming more vulnerable to the style of play that Djokovic brings and the fact that Djokovic is increasingly confident and assertive of his own abilities to beat Federer. I don't expect him to make the same mistakes this time when presented with opportunities, and I don't think Federer is currently playing well enough to keep matters entirely out of Djokovic's hands. Nole and Janko Tipsarevic discussed playing Roger before the latter's match, they discussed tactics and attitude and we saw the results, Tipsarevic made Roger fight very hard to get that win. I think Djokovic is itching to right a few wrongs in how he handled the US Open match.

I think if Federer steps it up out there, finds the JesusFed switch and takes it to Djokovic, it's in his hands.

If he doesn't, I think Djokovic has more than enough firepower and self belief to break down the Federer forehand.


Now what tactics did u think tht novak told janko tht pushed the match to 5 sets??....Novak obviously couldn't have predicted

1. Fed will Choke when serving for first set.
2. Chokes away 2 more set points in the 3rd set.
3. Couldn't make use of the breakpoint opportunities he created for himself (5 of 22)

Well...to be fair fed had some worst luck in tht match. He couldn't even save a single break points against him.....Fed was responsible for all the mess in tht 3rd round match, nothing to do with the brains of novak..C'mon now...I am not taking anything away from janko,

the answer
01-23-2008, 06:02 PM
Now what tactics did u think tht novak told janko tht pushed the match to 5 sets??....Novak obviously couldn't have predicted

1. Fed will Choke when serving for first set.
2. Chokes away 2 more set points in the 3rd set.
3. Couldn't make use of the breakpoint opportunities he created for himself (5 of 22)

Well...to be fair fed had some worst luck in tht match. He couldn't even save a single break points against him.....Fed was responsible for all the mess in tht 3rd round match, nothing to do with the brains of novak..C'mon now...I am not taking anything away from janko,

That's exactly want I mean they are writing about Djokovic like he is some master tactician witch he isn't and never was.

PamV
01-23-2008, 06:03 PM
This has been discussed before but we are simply discussing his next match at AO 2008 and in general his form has been off and on as he has progressed through the tournament. Yes, there is incredible pressure on him but we are simply wondering about his W-L in the next match.

To paraphrase Agassi, Fed doesn't need to be in "JesusFed" mode, he just needs to be better than Novak. Will he be? Not based on the form he has displayed in this tournament.


How has Roger been off form? Roger's stats are incredible for the tournament. Tipsarevic was playing on fire and he would have troubled anyone...so don't look at that and say it means Roger is off. The fact is that you can't judge how well Nadal is playing since he's had such an easy draw. Djokovic looks like he's playing well but his biggest match opponents so far were Hewitt and Ferrer. Ferrer looked totally off, making many UFE's. Playing Roger would be a different story because Roger can serve much better than Hewitt or Ferrer.

FedFan_2007
01-23-2008, 06:13 PM
No matter what this match is an absolute cracker.

Magus13
01-23-2008, 06:15 PM
This is the same sort of post from last years AO when Roddick was closeing the gap (spanked Roddick), after Indian Wells and Miami that Fed would lose number 1 to Nadal,(finished #1) Fed was reeling after losing to Volandri (beat Nadal at Hamburg) Fed was vulnerable at the US Open,(beat Joke) Was done after Madrid and Paris and the loss to Gonazalez (won the Masters Cup). Fed will win because he is the better player. Every time you doubt him he comes through. One day he will actually take a step back but that day will not be in the near future, especially not tomorrow.

tennizen
01-23-2008, 06:25 PM
This is the same sort of post from last years AO when Roddick was closeing the gap (spanked Roddick), after Indian Wells and Miami that Fed would lose number 1 to Nadal,(finished #1) Fed was reeling after losing to Volandri (beat Nadal at Hamburg) Fed was vulnerable at the US Open,(beat Joke) Was done after Madrid and Paris and the loss to Gonazalez (won the Masters Cup). Fed will win because he is the better player. Every time you doubt him he comes through. One day he will actually take a step back but that day will not be in the near future, especially not tomorrow.

I am not saying Fed will lose tomorrow but even though its hard to accept Djokovic is a pretty solid player. Fed can't keep up his level and there is no reason to think the near future you are talking about could be tomorrow. This is the first match in AO where I would say Feds chances are around 50%. Wasn't true before

wcr
01-23-2008, 06:25 PM
This has been discussed before but we are simply discussing his next match at AO 2008 and in general his form has been off and on as he has progressed through the tournament. Yes, there is incredible pressure on him but we are simply wondering about his W-L in the next match.

To paraphrase Agassi, Fed doesn't need to be in "JesusFed" mode, he just needs to be better than Novak. Will he be? Not based on the form he has displayed in this tournament.

Is the form you're talking about an overall impression you have of Fed's game so far or is it based on the numbers he's delivered for the event? RWN was kind enough to provide the following:

Here are the simple facts:
Djokovic 160 winners 136 unforced errors in 5 matches
Federer 278 winners 137 unforced errors in 5 matches

Current tournament stats aside, and since we're discussing a Fed/Djoko matchup, then it's worthwhile to examine what happened to these two competitors since their last meeting at the USO.

http://www.atptennis.com/5/en/players/playerprofiles/playeractivity.asp?query=Singles&year=2007&player=F324&selTournament=0&prevtrnnum=0

http://www.atptennis.com/5/en/players/playerprofiles/playeractivity.asp?query=Singles&year=2007&player=D643&selTournament=0&prevtrnnum=0


Neither man has played this year according to www.atptennis.com (http://www.atptennis.com)

It seems to me that Fed hasn't played his best tennis since the AO 2007 - but that's my "impression" of how he's looked in the tournaments I've watched . Obviously, his 3 GS titles from 2007 prove me wrong. Djokovic appears to playing the same as he did in last year's USO. Both players have intangibles that are hard to quantify when predicting an outcome. I find using stats rather than listening to the guys who call matches at ESPN more helpful and although it might not be the case with you, I find a lot of content here repeats of comments made from those who call the matches.

Bilbo
01-23-2008, 06:27 PM
Federer in 4

Rogieva
01-23-2008, 06:31 PM
Fed in 4.

rofe
01-23-2008, 06:31 PM
Here are the simple facts:

Djokovic 160 winners 136 unforced errors in 5 matches
Federer 278 winners 137 unforced errors in 5 matches

You're wrong.

Stats don't tell the whole story. I go with what I see from these players. For example, Fed has gotten into bad habit of being broken back after he breaks his opponent. The stats don't tell you that. His forehand has lost its bite. The stats don't tell you that. He is not aggressive with 2nd serve returns. The stats don't tell you that. Yes, he has taken corrective action after that to ensure victory and that is why I think that even if Fed loses he will go down fighting.

Novak seems the more solid player of the two at the moment and based on their relative form, I think Novak can pull out the win. It is entirely possible for Fed to not be in form but just do enough to be one-step ahead of Novak and that is why I quoted Agassi. Once again, I hope that can happen but I am not counting on it.

rofe
01-23-2008, 06:32 PM
Is the form you're talking about an overall impression you have of Fed's game so far or is it based on the numbers he's delivered for the event? RWN was kind enough to provide the following:

Here are the simple facts:
Djokovic 160 winners 136 unforced errors in 5 matches
Federer 278 winners 137 unforced errors in 5 matches

Current tournament stats aside, and since we're discussing a Fed/Djoko matchup, then it's worthwhile to examine what happened to these two competitors since their last meeting at the USO.

http://www.atptennis.com/5/en/players/playerprofiles/playeractivity.asp?query=Singles&year=2007&player=F324&selTournament=0&prevtrnnum=0

http://www.atptennis.com/5/en/players/playerprofiles/playeractivity.asp?query=Singles&year=2007&player=D643&selTournament=0&prevtrnnum=0


Neither man has played this year according to www.atptennis.com (http://www.atptennis.com)

It seems to me that Fed hasn't played his best tennis since the AO 2007 - but that's my "impression" of how he's looked in the tournaments I've watched . Obviously, his 3 GS titles from 2007 prove me wrong. Djokovic appears to playing the same as he did in last year's USO. Both players have intangibles that are hard to quantify when predicting an outcome. I find using stats rather than listening to the guys who call matches at ESPN more helpful and although it might not be the case with you, I find a lot of content here repeats of comments made from those who call the matches.

That would the last thing I would do to judge the form of a player. I am judging their relative form based on what I have seen with my own eyes.

DrJules
01-23-2008, 06:43 PM
I think Tsonga has the edge, actually. I'm prepared for a Nadal loss. IF Nadal wins though, he will reap the benefit of Federer and Djokovic knocking the crap out of each other in the semis. I can't wait for this match. And OH how I hope Roger wins.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I assume you are joking.

Expect Nadal win in 3 or 4 sets like at US Open in 2007.

DrJules
01-23-2008, 06:54 PM
Djokovic will rip Federer a fat one

Nole is playing like a man possesed by the Devil :eek:

He is the Devil.:devil:

wcr
01-23-2008, 07:00 PM
Stats don't tell the whole story. I go with what I see from these players. For example, Fed has gotten into bad habit of being broken back after he breaks his opponent. The stats don't tell you that. His forehand has lost its bite. The stats don't tell you that. He is not aggressive with 2nd serve returns. The stats don't tell you that. Yes, he has taken corrective action after that to ensure victory and that is why I think that even if Fed loses he will go down fighting.

Novak seems the more solid player of the two at the moment and based on their relative form, I think Novak can pull out the win. It is entirely possible for Fed to not be in form but just do enough to be one-step ahead of Novak and that is why I quoted Agassi. Once again, I hope that can happen but I am not counting on it.

Yes it's true that stats don't tell the whole story - especially the part about who played the big points better. It seems since last year Fed's losing his serve more often and his BP conversion rate isn't as high as in previous years but, again, this is only my impression and that I take note of the errors more often than the winners when I watch players and am rooting for one particular person to win.

Cat123
01-23-2008, 07:09 PM
What the heck, Djoko in 4.

Metis
01-23-2008, 07:19 PM
This match has been hyped to the skies. This probably means it won't live up to the expectations. I remember at this time last year when those 2 met in the 4th round and Federer came out with a vengeance after some smart ass remarks by Djokovic and lots of excitement in MTF. I read Federer's latest presser and he seemed ready to teach Nole another lesson. :devil:

I think Federer will win this and I will think the same even if he's 2 sets down. IMO Nole's QF match showed that, had Ferrer won the 3rd set, he might not have been able to sustain his intensity on high enough levels to win it. Federer will not be as easy to break and he'll have Nole huffing and puffing much earlier.


he is always lucky now lets hope Ali "tsonga" is the real deal. hope safin will meet nadal in the round one in FO and Wimbledon.

:spit: Don't let Safin see this post, he'll think you are a hater and ban you from his fanclub. :lol:


Mark my words, one of Fed's big tactics he will use against Djoker will be those low topspin wide-angle forehands and backhands. I hope Djoke doesn't read this post. :(

:rolls:

MTF has provided excellent entertainment these last few days...

cmurray
01-23-2008, 07:21 PM
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I assume you are joking.

Expect Nadal win in 3 or 4 sets like at US Open in 2007.

I am not joking. Although Rafa has played pretty well this tournament, Tsonga DOES have the game to beat him. Besides, I NEVER EVER call Rafa to win a match. :lol:

Greenday
01-23-2008, 07:46 PM
That would the last thing I would do to judge the form of a player. I am judging their relative form based on what I have seen with my own eyes.

Now who exactly did djoke defeat for you to get tht impression.....sam querry or simon bolleli or leyton hewitt who lost to chris guccione the week before or david ferrer( who was totally off).....Fed played Santoro, an ON FIRE Janko, Tomas berdych and James blake...all Very Good Hardcourt players....There's not much u can take from previous matches......I am not saying djoke cant beat fed, but u predicting tht fed will lose b'coz wat u hv seen this tournament is plain wrong...also remember tht fed didn't play any competitive matches on the new surace before AO.

DrJules
01-23-2008, 08:11 PM
This match has been hyped to the skies. This probably means it won't live up to the expectations. I remember at this time last year when those 2 met in the 4th round and Federer came out with a vengeance after some smart ass remarks by Djokovic and lots of excitement in MTF. I read Federer's latest presser and he seemed ready to teach Nole another lesson. :devil:

I think Federer will win this and I will think the same even if he's 2 sets down. IMO Nole's QF match showed that, had Ferrer won the 3rd set, he might not have been able to sustain his intensity on high enough levels to win it. Federer will not be as easy to break and he'll have Nole huffing and puffing much earlier.




:spit: Don't let Safin see this post, he'll think you are a hater and ban you from his fanclub. :lol:




:rolls:

MTF has provided excellent entertainment these last few days...

Novak is much fitter than he appears. If necessary he would have used strategic injury time outs to beat Ferrer; Djokovic is the ultimate professional when it comes to winning.

Johnny Groove
01-23-2008, 08:15 PM
Nadal was EXTREMELY LUCKY with the draw...he hasn't played ANY decent players yet! Shocking! How could the draw be THAT uneven. Feds half was BY FAR the most difficult.

:sobbing: :sad:

he is always lucky now lets hope Ali "tsonga" is the real deal. hope safin will meet nadal in the round one in FO and Wimbledon.

Safin is a piece of shit at the moment. I love the guy, but he sucks.

:retard: No way Safin is low-ranked enough to meet Nadal in a 1st round of a slam :retard:

Are you retarded? Safin hasn't been a seed in a slam since the Paleo-lithic era :retard:

cmurray
01-23-2008, 08:29 PM
Are you retarded? Safin hasn't been a seed in a slam since the Paleo-lithic era :retard:

Now Jonathan. Be nice. Obviously fedfan21341234934208 doesn't grasp how seedings work.

12354145729843720 - only the top 32 players get seeds. Anyone else can be placed anywhere in the draw. So Safin has just as good a chance of meeting Nadal in the first round as he does...say....Jarko Nieminen. :hug: Hope that helps.

Kitty de Sade
01-23-2008, 08:48 PM
I am not joking. Although Rafa has played pretty well this tournament, Tsonga DOES have the game to beat him. Besides, I NEVER EVER call Rafa to win a match. :lol:

This never happens?! :lol:

MrChopin
01-23-2008, 11:26 PM
Nole is not a mental giant. He has choked up and gone defensive on numerous stages now. He looked mentally frayed in both the Hewitt and Ferrer matches, the latter of which should have gone to four when Djokovic started dragging ass, playing pat-it-back, and sailing UE after UE. Had Ferrer not been so far behind and himself mentally cramped, it would have gone to four, another long set for which Djokovic already looked gassed. Sure, "fitness" may have been the issue, but the same thing happened to Berdych at last years USO, to Nole several times in 2007... Nole is suffering from nerves, I think that he's been quoted as saying such, and he hardly looks indestructible. That he beat Ferrer and Hewitt, both whose games play right into his hands and both of whom were either tired/not at best, leaves me with little concern over him being in mini-god-mode; he's not.

And now everyone is once again proclaiming Federer's demise, only now it's even consumed reporters and columnists, not just MTF. One five set win and he's done. Further, the last few times Federer has been called out (remember, only by a minority, as compared to a lot of columns now proclaiming it), with "gap closing"-esque comments and such, he went into god-mode. The last two men to incur such wrath, Roddick and Djokovic, received so sound a beating that Federer's dominance was hailed as one of the greatest in a slam ever.

... Flash forward to AO '08, and the head clown is again running his mouth. I don't know what kind of shape Federer is in, but I don't think Federer is taking these comments lightly. When his opponents have given him something to mentally brew over, it usually means serious trouble for the culprit, but even if Djokovic's antagonism doesn't cull god-mode from Fed, I've seen little to predict something drastically different than the USO '07 F. That Djokovic still doesn't seem to have conquered the nerves isn't a good sign either.

JustJames
01-23-2008, 11:29 PM
Tight one, so based on no logic or reason.. Djokovic in 5.

Although it wouldn't surprise me to see Federer in three either.. His form is iffy at the moment.

FedFan_2007
01-23-2008, 11:31 PM
At age 20y 8 months:

Fed - 1 slam QF, 3 ATP titles, 1 MS title, 1 other MS final, rank #11
Djoke - 1 slam Final, 3 other slam semis, 7 ATP titles, 2 MS titles, 1 other MS final, rank #3

Djoke > Fed

BIGMARAT
01-23-2008, 11:36 PM
I want Nole to win this and then AO final.

but I think Roger is a very tough task.

savesthedizzle
01-23-2008, 11:39 PM
I picked (and hope) Novak in 4.

Fedex
01-23-2008, 11:59 PM
Its amazing how most of the people on this site picking Djokovic to win this match are Federer 'fans', not the Djokotards. According to them, Federer has 'no chance' in this match. Federer has played well in this tournement, so his alleged demise is largely overstated. I guess some people will just never be satisfied.

guga2120
01-24-2008, 12:03 AM
Roger in 3.

krystlel
01-24-2008, 12:32 AM
Federer in 5 sets.

Byrd
01-24-2008, 12:39 AM
Looking at Djokos run-through in the tourney, he hasn't exactly played anyone that good, going from players like bolelli,Querry,Becker and a tired ferrer will be a massive step up, should be interesting.

Corey Feldman
01-24-2008, 12:46 AM
I think the champ will raise his game and do the job, he has in the past against better men than this chump and will again.

Federer has won his last 34 Semi Finals.

Fedex
01-24-2008, 02:58 AM
This is the one match in this tournament in which I am prepared for a Fed loss. I also think he won't go down without a fight. Novak has been playing good, solid tennis and Fed has had flashes of brilliance but not at a level required to win his match against Novak. He may find it during the SF but I am not counting on it.

I'm shocked that people don't feel like Federer is going to step it up tomorrow, when he ALWAYS does. Seriously, this guy has been in 10 straight slam finals and people(including the Australian Press) are writing his demise. Don't you think that will add fuel to the fire and motivate Federer even further? I don't expect Federer to throw in a clunker of a match tomorrow, especially with him being so close to Sampras' record now. In fact I wouldn't be entirely shocked if he blows him out. Remember, people were thinking upset last year with Roddick coming into the semis on a roll (including that win over Federer in Kooyong) and how did that work out?

Fedex
01-24-2008, 03:09 AM
Here are the simple facts:

Djokovic 160 winners 136 unforced errors in 5 matches
Federer 278 winners 137 unforced errors in 5 matches

You're wrong.

Excellent stat. Thanks for posting that. Clearly Federer has been playing terrible tennis and Djokovic has been out of this world.

I'm going to laugh at all these so called Federer 'fans' that are writing him off when Federer beats Djokovic in 3/4 sets.

Magus13
01-24-2008, 03:26 AM
It's like the guy with the bell and sign crying that the world will end. One day he'll be right.

Angeltroy
01-24-2008, 03:35 AM
QUOTE=the answer;6479038]Federer play's a couple of matches below his standards (witch is still enough to beat the majority of the ATP) and suddenly he is been written him off? Even by the so called "federer fans". This reminds of the The US Open final where a lot people where doubting him. It's kinda sad if you think about it. Here is a man with 12 Grand Slams, 15th successive Grand Slam semi-final, has a 5-1 edge over his opponent including 2 matches in a Grand Slam, both in straight sets the AO one was a spanking and in the US Open final he played his worst Grand Slam final till date and still managed to defeat Djokovic.
I hope that the better player wins but it's retarded to even consider Djokovic as the favorite. Really, haven't you people learned from the past ?? Every time you doubt the man he puts on a blazing performance. Poor guy no matter what he does these days you guys are never satisfied.[/QUOTE]


HEAR HEAR :clap2:

Johnny Groove
01-24-2008, 03:56 AM
I'm shocked that people don't feel like Federer is going to step it up tomorrow, when he ALWAYS does. Seriously, this guy has been in 10 straight slam finals and people(including the Australian Press) are writing his demise. Don't you think that will add fuel to the fire and motivate Federer even further? I don't expect Federer to throw in a clunker of a match tomorrow, especially with him being so close to Sampras' record now. In fact I wouldn't be entirely shocked if he blows him out. Remember, people were thinking upset last year with Roddick coming into the semis on a roll (including that win over Federer in Kooyong) and how did that work out?

Because people always like to predict the demise of the greats.

Yes, dominance is astounding, but there is always someone waiting in the wings, and all the press people and fans always want to be the first to say who it was that did it.

Like if Federer lost to Tipsarevic, do you have any idea how big a story that would be?

ciprianned
01-24-2008, 05:26 AM
Fed 3-2

tennisgal_001
01-24-2008, 05:55 AM
Because people always like to predict the demise of the greats.

Yes, dominance is astounding, but there is always someone waiting in the wings, and all the press people and fans always want to be the first to say who it was that did it.

Like if Federer lost to Tipsarevic, do you have any idea how big a story that would be?

That's all true, but it's just wishful thinking, for the moment at least. HOPING that Djokovic would win is an entirely different matter from PREDICTING who will win based on stats, form, history, etc... The poll seems to reflect the former and not the latter (shockingly enough :rolleyes:), as was the case in many previous occasions: Fed - Djoko AO '07; Fed - Rod AO '07; Fed - Djo USO '07; Fed - Nadal W '07.

bokehlicious
01-24-2008, 06:32 AM
That's all true, but it's just wishful thinking, for the moment at least. HOPING that Djokovic would win is an entirely different matter from PREDICTING who will win based on stats, form, history, etc... The poll seems to reflect the former and not the latter (shockingly enough :rolleyes:), as was the case in many previous occasions: Fed - Djoko AO '07; Fed - Rod AO '07; Fed - Djo USO '07; Fed - Nadal W '07.

Right, there are so many haters out there that would sell their own children to see Roger go down... Wishful thinking... :rolleyes: :zzz:

tennisgal_001
01-24-2008, 07:03 AM
Right, there are so many haters out there that would sell their own children to see Roger go down... Wishful thinking... :rolleyes: :zzz:

And where exactly did I say that in my post?!
There's plenty of people who want to see Federer challenged more often at Slams and maybe lose every once in a while to make things more exciting, and there's nothing wrong with that. But just because these people HOPE that Djokovic is the one to do it tomorrow, and some people even stated that it's a foregone conclusion/it's his match to lose/he's the favorite/etc..., doesn't make it true based on stats, history, form, and other factors. THAT is the "wishful thinking!".

bokehlicious
01-24-2008, 07:23 AM
And where exactly did I say that in my post?!


I was referring to the pathetic haters... And as far as I know you're not exactly one of them...

sports freak
01-24-2008, 07:40 AM
Fed X 3-0/3-1!!

dragons112
01-24-2008, 07:41 AM
go roger

Art&Soul
01-24-2008, 07:46 AM
37-87-17 hehe i like his 7's chance

Commander Data
01-24-2008, 09:38 AM
With Nadal virtually out and Joker having a big mouth there is no way Roger is gone lose:devil:

nadal is the only one that can get into Fed's head. With him out Roger knows he has a all the chances if he beats Djoker.

And he has every reason to do so. It is not smart to questtion Rogers status before the match, like djoker likes to do it. Fed tends to turn into a beast in these situations.

Fed will be very motivated. When has he ever lost a important match in this situation, his King status under attack? Never:devil:

I was scared about Djoker last week but not anymore, the stage is perfectly set for Roger to prove once again that he is No. 1

Huntress555
01-24-2008, 09:49 AM
Novak 3-2 I'm hoping :D

Baghdatis72
01-24-2008, 09:59 AM
Djokovic with ease in 4 sets :D

Canas Betmaster
01-24-2008, 10:12 AM
Most of people here dont even know what are they talking about:

Most of you doesent understand momentum.

Djokovic at every next Grand Slam play beter then the one before. He raise his game day after day and that is scary.

He play his best tennis right now but he is not play with his full potential yet. He have a lot of space to improve his game even more.

Federer past his best. He is still better than most of the guys there, but his game at every next Grand Slem is weaker. Last year even Gonzo and Volandi menage to beat him. "Original" Federer would not allow that.

But somehow most of people doesent understand that Federer from 2005 is not Federer we watching those day. He is gone.

Djokovic is also not guy who you watched at US Open 2007. He is way better now. And he will be even beter. That is the point.

Commander Data
01-24-2008, 12:18 PM
Most of people here dont even know what are they talking about:

Most of you doesent understand momentum.

Djokovic at every next Grand Slam play beter then the one before. He raise his game day after day and that is scary.

He play his best tennis right now but he is not play with his full potential yet. He have a lot of space to improve his game even more.

Federer past his best. He is still better than most of the guys there, but his game at every next Grand Slem is weaker. Last year even Gonzo and Volandi menage to beat him. "Original" Federer would not allow that.

But somehow most of people doesent understand that Federer from 2005 is not Federer we watching those day. He is gone.

Djokovic is also not guy who you watched at US Open 2007. He is way better now. And he will be even beter. That is the point.

Less then 24 hours til Djoker is going down. face it.

bad gambler
01-24-2008, 12:21 PM
Federer in 3 or 4.

juninhOH
01-24-2008, 12:33 PM
Most of people here dont even know what are they talking about:

Most of you doesent understand momentum.

Djokovic at every next Grand Slam play beter then the one before. He raise his game day after day and that is scary.

He play his best tennis right now but he is not play with his full potential yet. He have a lot of space to improve his game even more.

Federer past his best. He is still better than most of the guys there, but his game at every next Grand Slem is weaker. Last year even Gonzo and Volandi menage to beat him. "Original" Federer would not allow that.

But somehow most of people doesent understand that Federer from 2005 is not Federer we watching those day. He is gone.

Djokovic is also not guy who you watched at US Open 2007. He is way better now. And he will be even beter. That is the point.

People just look at the results and forget sometimes Federer struggled a lot in some of his past Grand Slam wins, they all get the impression he won it all without dropping sets, whats not true and only happened once. Then they all think "Federer is not the same".

Then Federer shows some awesome performance and everyone forget. I wish he'd 3-0 Djokovic tomorrow like he did to Roddick last year, just to check the reuslts.

SAtennis
01-24-2008, 01:22 PM
The stage is perfectly set for Federer. Time to shut Djoker up. 3-0 for Roger.

Exodus
01-24-2008, 01:25 PM
king federer will beat joker in 3 sets

Baghdatis72
01-24-2008, 01:32 PM
If Federer plays like he played with Tipsa he will lose faster than he can blink :devil:

TheBoiledEgg
01-24-2008, 01:50 PM
never seen dylan this optimistic

that must mean something

he hasnt lost any money yet on this bet :haha:

Blondie1985
01-24-2008, 01:56 PM
fed in 3.

I find Nole an arroagnt little s*** who I hope is going to fall flat on his grinning ridiculous face when he plays Roger!

Please God let Roger up his game and show him WHY he is No 1 and that he is here to stay for a very long time yet!!!!!!!!

bokehlicious
01-24-2008, 02:03 PM
Just hope Roger wears his ninja outfit. If so then appreciate the demolition... :devil:

Baghdatis72
01-24-2008, 02:11 PM
fed in 3.

I find Nole an arroagnt little s*** who I hope is going to fall flat on his grinning ridiculous face when he plays Roger!

Please God let Roger up his game and show him WHY he is No 1 and that he is here to stay for a very long time yet!!!!!!!!

He knows that he will fall sooner or later to Djokovic though :devil:

bokehlicious
01-24-2008, 02:21 PM
He knows that he will fall sooner or later to Djokovic though :devil:

He fell to Volandri or Canas, so no shame in falling to Djokovic :shrug:

Baghdatis72
01-24-2008, 02:30 PM
He fell to Volandri or Canas, so no shame in falling to Djokovic :shrug:

I meant in the rankings :D

bokehlicious
01-24-2008, 02:34 PM
I meant in the rankings :D

This thread is about their next match... What will happen in 2015 isn't interesting yet ;)

Baghdatis72
01-24-2008, 02:43 PM
This thread is about their next match... What will happen in 2015 isn't interesting yet ;)

You mean 2009 :p

Adler
01-24-2008, 02:57 PM
This thread is about their next match... What will happen in 2015 isn't interesting yet ;)

"Djokovic defeats legend, sets up meeting against Gulbis"

Melbourne, 21 jan 15 - 12 times Grand Slam winner Novak Djokovic made one another step to become one of the greatest players ever

In a grueling 4th round encounter he defeated legendary Roger Federer 7:5 6:4 6:2, former winner of the tournament

34-year-old Federer, seeded 16, was looking to snap his 2 years title drought on the low-bouncing plexicushion surface Down Under. After struggling in first three rounds he couldn't find his way to defeat world No.1 Djokovic, who's yet to lose a set in the tournament

"I think I played a solid match" Djokovic said, "I was agressive on Roger's first serve and hit some return winners on the second. It also seems like my serve is working well, and there's no need to worry about that" said the Serbian leader, referring to his recent back injury

Roger Federer lost his serve 4 times and couldn't convert his only BP chance in the first set. "I'm quite happy with my performance" said Swiss maestro, who's the only player who won 15 Grand Slam titles. "Novak was a better player, you know, hit his serve harder, was awesome in the rallies, you know, also hit awesome passing shots, like Nadal in his heydays. I doubt there will be anyone able to stop him here in Australia, you know"

Federer also gave an answer to some questions about his retirement. "Well, I was supposed to retire after the Olympics, you know, but after winning bronze medal I felt like I can still do some damage on the ATP level. We'll see what happens". Djokovic is now 8-6 against the 6 times Wimbledon champion. The last time Federer was able to beat the Serbian champion was in 2008 here in Melbourne in Australian Open semifinal. It was the last time Federer won the AO, defeating Jo-Wilfried Tsonga in the final, the present No.3.

Djokovic will now meet No.7 Gulbis, who's survived a grueling 5-setter against Djokovic's compatriot Viktor Troicki, who's recently won Adelaide title just as his friend Djokovic who's march towards the top spot in the ranking started in 2007

Later that day, world No.2 Andy Murray also progressed to the quarterfinal, so did No.4 Gasquet and No.5 Boluda. If Tsonga wins his 4th round match, it will be the first time since 2009 Wimbledon, where all TOp 4 players will reach quarterfinals of a Grand Slam tournament

Baghdatis72
01-24-2008, 03:11 PM
"Djokovic defeats legend, sets up meeting against Gulbis"

Melbourne, 21 jan 15 - 12 times Grand Slam winner Novak Djokovic made one another step to become one of the greatest players ever

In a grueling 4th round encounter he defeated legendary Roger Federer 7:5 6:4 6:2, former winner of the tournament

34-year-old Federer, seeded 16, was looking to snap his 2 years title drought on the low-bouncing plexicushion surface Down Under. After struggling in first three rounds he couldn't find his way to defeat world No.1 Djokovic, who's yet to lose a set in the tournament

"I think I played a solid match" Djokovic said, "I was agressive on Roger's first serve and hit some return winners on the second. It also seems like my serve is working well, and there's no need to worry about that" said the Serbian leader, referring to his recent back injury

Roger Federer lost his serve 4 times and couldn't convert his only BP chance in the first set. "I'm quite happy with my performance" said Swiss maestro, who's the only player who won 15 Grand Slam titles. "Novak was a better player, you know, hit his serve harder, was awesome in the rallies, you know, also hit awesome passing shots, like Nadal in his heydays. I doubt there will be anyone able to stop him here in Australia, you know"

Federer also gave an answer to some questions about his retirement. "Well, I was supposed to retire after the Olympics, you know, but after winning bronze medal I felt like I can still do some damage on the ATP level. We'll see what happens". Djokovic is now 8-6 against the 6 times Wimbledon champion. The last time Federer was able to beat the Serbian champion was in 2008 here in Melbourne in Australian Open semifinal. It was the last time Federer won the AO, defeating Jo-Wilfried Tsonga in the final, the present No.3.

Djokovic will now meet No.7 Gulbis, who's survived a grueling 5-setter against Djokovic's compatriot Viktor Troicki, who's recently won Adelaide title just as his friend Djokovic who's march towards the top spot in the ranking started in 2007

Later that day, world No.2 Andy Murray also progressed to the quarterfinal, so did No.4 Gasquet and No.5 Boluda. If Tsonga wins his 4th round match, it will be the first time since 2009 Wimbledon, where all TOp 4 players will reach quarterfinals of a Grand Slam tournament

:lol: Great post :lol:

Magus13
01-24-2008, 03:20 PM
Where Are They Now......2015
On this episode we catch up with former tennis star Novak Djokovic to find out what he's been doing since he left tennis in 2010. If you remember the "Joker" as he was called was a brash overconfident 20 year old who constantly predicted his own greatnesss. One time his mother even suggested her her son was better than all time great Roger Federer who went onto win 18 GS Titles and an Olymic Gold during his steller career. So back to the Joke. After a short string of runs to semis and a few GS Finals, other players like Muarry,Tsonga,Gulbis,Cilic started moving up the rankings pushing Joke out of the top ten. This was too much for the self procalimed heir appaent to number 1 player to handle. We caught up to Djokovic to find out what he is doing. His former fans will be glad to know he makes acomfortable liveing touring Europe by mesmerizing fans with incredible ball tricks and hillarious impersenations of current and former tennis greats. It should be noted that Joke still feels he is one of the greatest tennis players in the world and was always in control of a match even when loseing. Joke's Mom however reluctantly admits that her precious son was not as good as Federer. Stay tuned for more where are they now 2015.

ReturnWinner
01-24-2008, 03:24 PM
"Djokovic defeats legend, sets up meeting against Gulbis"

Melbourne, 21 jan 15 - 12 times Grand Slam winner Novak Djokovic made one another step to become one of the greatest players ever

In a grueling 4th round encounter he defeated legendary Roger Federer 7:5 6:4 6:2, former winner of the tournament

34-year-old Federer, seeded 16, was looking to snap his 2 years title drought on the low-bouncing plexicushion surface Down Under. After struggling in first three rounds he couldn't find his way to defeat world No.1 Djokovic, who's yet to lose a set in the tournament

"I think I played a solid match" Djokovic said, "I was agressive on Roger's first serve and hit some return winners on the second. It also seems like my serve is working well, and there's no need to worry about that" said the Serbian leader, referring to his recent back injury

Roger Federer lost his serve 4 times and couldn't convert his only BP chance in the first set. "I'm quite happy with my performance" said Swiss maestro, who's the only player who won 15 Grand Slam titles. "Novak was a better player, you know, hit his serve harder, was awesome in the rallies, you know, also hit awesome passing shots, like Nadal in his heydays. I doubt there will be anyone able to stop him here in Australia, you know"

Federer also gave an answer to some questions about his retirement. "Well, I was supposed to retire after the Olympics, you know, but after winning bronze medal I felt like I can still do some damage on the ATP level. We'll see what happens". Djokovic is now 8-6 against the 6 times Wimbledon champion. The last time Federer was able to beat the Serbian champion was in 2008 here in Melbourne in Australian Open semifinal. It was the last time Federer won the AO, defeating Jo-Wilfried Tsonga in the final, the present No.3.

Djokovic will now meet No.7 Gulbis, who's survived a grueling 5-setter against Djokovic's compatriot Viktor Troicki, who's recently won Adelaide title just as his friend Djokovic who's march towards the top spot in the ranking started in 2007

Later that day, world No.2 Andy Murray also progressed to the quarterfinal, so did No.4 Gasquet and No.5 Boluda. If Tsonga wins his 4th round match, it will be the first time since 2009 Wimbledon, where all TOp 4 players will reach quarterfinals of a Grand Slam tournament

:lol:

groundstroke
01-24-2008, 03:59 PM
Lol Djokovic will never ever beat Federer in a GS.

Baghdatis72
01-24-2008, 04:04 PM
Lol Djokovic will never ever beat Federer in a GS.

:nerner: Maybe this year only :p

tennisgal_001
01-24-2008, 05:17 PM
"Djokovic defeats legend, sets up meeting against Gulbis"

Melbourne, 21 jan 15 - 12 times Grand Slam winner Novak Djokovic made one another step to become one of the greatest players ever

In a grueling 4th round encounter he defeated legendary Roger Federer 7:5 6:4 6:2, former winner of the tournament

34-year-old Federer, seeded 16, was looking to snap his 2 years title drought on the low-bouncing plexicushion surface Down Under. After struggling in first three rounds he couldn't find his way to defeat world No.1 Djokovic, who's yet to lose a set in the tournament

"I think I played a solid match" Djokovic said, "I was agressive on Roger's first serve and hit some return winners on the second. It also seems like my serve is working well, and there's no need to worry about that" said the Serbian leader, referring to his recent back injury

Roger Federer lost his serve 4 times and couldn't convert his only BP chance in the first set. "I'm quite happy with my performance" said Swiss maestro, who's the only player who won 15 Grand Slam titles. "Novak was a better player, you know, hit his serve harder, was awesome in the rallies, you know, also hit awesome passing shots, like Nadal in his heydays. I doubt there will be anyone able to stop him here in Australia, you know"

Federer also gave an answer to some questions about his retirement. "Well, I was supposed to retire after the Olympics, you know, but after winning bronze medal I felt like I can still do some damage on the ATP level. We'll see what happens". Djokovic is now 8-6 against the 6 times Wimbledon champion. The last time Federer was able to beat the Serbian champion was in 2008 here in Melbourne in Australian Open semifinal. It was the last time Federer won the AO, defeating Jo-Wilfried Tsonga in the final, the present No.3.

Djokovic will now meet No.7 Gulbis, who's survived a grueling 5-setter against Djokovic's compatriot Viktor Troicki, who's recently won Adelaide title just as his friend Djokovic who's march towards the top spot in the ranking started in 2007

Later that day, world No.2 Andy Murray also progressed to the quarterfinal, so did No.4 Gasquet and No.5 Boluda. If Tsonga wins his 4th round match, it will be the first time since 2009 Wimbledon, where all TOp 4 players will reach quarterfinals of a Grand Slam tournament

1. Djokovic
2. Murray
3. Tsonga
4. Gasquet

Where's Nadal at? :p

Great post :lol:

mungyo
01-24-2008, 06:02 PM
federer in 3 YEAHHH!!

DDrago2
01-24-2008, 06:15 PM
I have the feeling Federer might lose tomorow - not because he is not better than Djokovic, but because of tiredness. He was constantly fending off all those fired-up, young and up-and-coming players who think by beating him they will be new Napoleons - where for him it is another grand slam round... Surely this wears him down and he might not have the energy for the win tomorrow!

Than again if both players show up equaly this should be a clear victory for Federer

r2473
01-24-2008, 06:28 PM
djokovic-federer is the final before final...whoever wins this is gonna win the whole tournament. Reminds me of Federer-Safin semis in 2005.

I sure hope this has the same level of play as the 2005 semis!!

Bodog has Federer as a 3.5:1 favorite (-350) and Joker as a 2.5:1 underdog (+250). Ironically, the exact same odds as the Nadal / Tsonga match (Nadal was favored)!

alelysafina
01-24-2008, 06:30 PM
Whenever I see threads like this, I always think WWW means world war 3 :lol:

I'm not going to say cause whoever I pick will lose knowing my track record :lol:

r2473
01-24-2008, 06:31 PM
Where Are They Now......2015
On this episode we catch up with former tennis star Novak Djokovic to find out what he's been doing since he left tennis in 2010. If you remember the "Joker" as he was called was a brash overconfident 20 year old who constantly predicted his own greatnesss. One time his mother even suggested her her son was better than all time great Roger Federer who went onto win 18 GS Titles and an Olymic Gold during his steller career. So back to the Joke. After a short string of runs to semis and a few GS Finals, other players like Muarry,Tsonga,Gulbis,Cilic started moving up the rankings pushing Joke out of the top ten. This was too much for the self procalimed heir appaent to number 1 player to handle. We caught up to Djokovic to find out what he is doing. His former fans will be glad to know he makes acomfortable liveing touring Europe by mesmerizing fans with incredible ball tricks and hillarious impersenations of current and former tennis greats. It should be noted that Joke still feels he is one of the greatest tennis players in the world and was always in control of a match even when loseing. Joke's Mom however reluctantly admits that her precious son was not as good as Federer. Stay tuned for more where are they now 2015.

Sad thing is, you will probably still be posting here in 2015.

Magus13
01-24-2008, 06:53 PM
Sad thing is, you will probably still be posting here in 2015.

Probably Will.

Allez
01-24-2008, 07:36 PM
I can't see how Federer can possibly win this I just can't. I've seen both players during this tournament and Djokovic has been the better player by far. Roger is suffering from lack of tune up matches. He can't win people. Let's let this one go and focus on the French.

stebs
01-24-2008, 08:41 PM
I can't see how Federer can possibly win this I just can't. I've seen both players during this tournament and Djokovic has been the better player by far. Roger is suffering from lack of tune up matches. He can't win people. Let's let this one go and focus on the French.

:lol: Federer could play me and you think he would lose.

rosamunda
01-24-2008, 09:53 PM
:lol: Federer could play me and you think he would lose.

And me, and I haven't picked up a racquet since they were made of wood.:)

Deivid23
01-24-2008, 10:27 PM
I think it will be a very close match, 4 close sets, maybe even 5, everything can happen imo.

Anyway, let´s do this, Nole :D

Voo de Mar
01-25-2008, 01:09 AM
I picked D'Joke. He has realized that to win a Grand Slam tournament he should win first rounds easily. He didn't do it in his previous three Grand Slams therefore he lost to Nadal (twice) and Federer playing below his normal skills. I expect a tough battle with 4 tight sets or 5 sets.

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 01:18 AM
only 8 picked Nole in ss

i never like that - the least likely result in MTF polls, usually happens

nsidhan
01-25-2008, 01:37 AM
Fed is SO winning this one in straight sets. You don't want to invite the wrath of Roger Federer by saying he isn't invincible anymore. NOT YET!

FedFan_2007
01-25-2008, 02:04 AM
Federer will strategically tank this match, to avoid the inevitable humiliation from a super-hot Tsonga. So Djoko will get spanked and go into a tail-spin. Brilliant strategy by TMF... :worship:

RagingLamb
01-25-2008, 09:16 AM
0-2 in sets...a lot of people on this forum are going to be disillusioned in a BIG way if this keeps going like this.

RagingLamb
01-25-2008, 09:18 AM
so far 157/297 (about 53%) of the people on this forum were dead wrong about this match-up.

saniapower
01-25-2008, 09:28 AM
Federer will win it.He has only just gone into his top gear.

Marek.
01-25-2008, 10:31 AM
Congrats to: Alex999, Aloimeh, Björki, Dmitriy, Foxy, jlh9s, Kurata, Oliboyz, OrinUK :yeah:

Corey Feldman
01-25-2008, 10:49 AM
only 8 picked Nole in ss

i never like that - the least likely result in MTF polls, usually happensSee

told ya's

Alex999
01-25-2008, 11:05 AM
Congrats to: Alex999, Aloimeh, Björki, Dmitriy, Foxy, jlh9s, Kurata, Oliboyz, OrinUK :yeah:

Thanks Marek. I truly believed that Novak could win in straight sets. Great job Novak. You showed to the whole world what you are made of.

Baghdatis72
01-25-2008, 12:04 PM
I predicted a 3-1 win to Novak and thank God I was wrong :D :yeah:

Alex999
01-25-2008, 12:12 PM
See

told ya's

Too funny, lol.

RagingLamb
01-25-2008, 01:19 PM
See

told ya's

I was thinking that the whole time, that I can't believe you actually predicted this. LOL

Alex999
02-01-2008, 12:05 AM
I love this thread.

Burrow
02-01-2008, 12:45 AM
who gives?