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AO 1/2 : Tsonga - Nadal, who will win ?

Renaud
01-22-2008, 12:02 PM
Tsonga is quite impressive here since he beat three talented outsiders (Murray, Gasquet, Youzhny).
Nadal had got a cakewalk-draw as good as (if not better) the one he got in Wimbledon 2006. But this time he has not lost a set yet.
I was sure Baghdatis would beat him in semi there and i was wrong. If i had to put money on this match i'd pick Nadal in three or four sets but with an easy end of match.

H2H: Nadal 1/0
US Open 2007: 7/6 6/2 6/1
Easy match for Nadal, the first set could have been even easier. Too easy for Rafa in the last two sets, Tsonga being obviously exhausted.


Tsonga
R128: def. Murray 7/5 6/4 0/6 7/6
R64: def. Warburg 6/4 7/6 6/2
R32: def Garcia Lopez 6/3 6/4 6/2
R16: def Gasquet 6/2 6/7 7/6 6/3
1/4: def Youzhny 7/5 6/0 7/6

Nadal
R128: def Troicky 7/6 7/5 6/1
R64: def Serra 6/0 6/2 6/2
R32: def Simon 7/5 6/2 6/3
R16: def Mathieu 6/4 3/0
1/4: def Nieminen 7/5 6/3 6/1

Exodus
01-22-2008, 12:03 PM
ALI BOOMAYE nadal

adee-gee
01-22-2008, 12:04 PM
Rafa = French Killa in this Aussie Open.

This is going to be hugely tough though. Hopefully Rafa's experience will be enough to see him through, but if Tsonga brings his A game to the court I think he'll win.

Tabledott
01-22-2008, 12:05 PM
Rafa in four I think.

scarecrows
01-22-2008, 12:05 PM
nadal in 3 or 4

Byrd
01-22-2008, 12:05 PM
Nadal will win solely on the fact Tsonga hits too many errors, which is good enough against most people as he hits about the same amount of winners, but the junkballing machine will return alot more, resulting in more errors.

SwiSha
01-22-2008, 12:06 PM
rafa was far from impressive against Jarkko, if Tsonga plays his best he will win

Tom Paulman
01-22-2008, 12:08 PM
Hopefully Tsonga, Nadal in final would only show how bad all these players are

tennisgal_001
01-22-2008, 12:09 PM
Nadal in 3 or 4. He's a better retriever, his topspin will not enable Tsonga to swing freely, and let's not forget the occasion and experience factor.

Byrd
01-22-2008, 12:10 PM
Nadal in 3 or 4. He's a better retriever, his topspin will not enable Tsonga to swing freely, and let's not forget the occasion and experience factor.

Its not clay, the topspin doesn't really have much effect, this match is Tsongas to lose depending on whether he controls his UE's & emotions, which intertwine with each other.

maqk
01-22-2008, 12:12 PM
Rafa of course

bokehlicious
01-22-2008, 12:12 PM
Nadal will toy with another Frenchie en route to the finals... How predictable... :zzz: :zzz:

Stensland
01-22-2008, 12:12 PM
nadal will take this one in in 3 sets, with the first one being close and the second and third rather freebies.

7-6, 6-4, 6-2

anousleshommes@h
01-22-2008, 12:14 PM
I predict an upset

DDrago2
01-22-2008, 12:16 PM
Nadal will win solely on the fact Tsonga hits too many errors, which is good enough against most people as he hits about the same amount of winners, but the junkballing machine will return alot more, resulting in more errors.

word

it will be the reprise of their's match from US Open

mangoes
01-22-2008, 12:16 PM
Probably Nadal............but, I'll be hoping Tsonga sends piggy weeeeeing all the way home.

t0x
01-22-2008, 12:18 PM
Hopefully Tsonga.

Realistically, Rafa in 3.

Labamba
01-22-2008, 12:19 PM
Nadal in 3 or 4

Tsonga has trouble returning the lefty serve to his backhand, Rafa will serve to that side all day long. If Tsonga serves as well as he has so far in this tournament, I can see one or two tiebreaks in this match, but in the end Nadal will wear him down by getting so many balls back.

I hope I'm wrong ;)

*Ljubica*
01-22-2008, 12:20 PM
Probably Nadal............but, I'll be hoping Tsonga sends piggy weeeeeing all the way home.

Oh yes - me too :) Allez Jo!

anon57
01-22-2008, 12:22 PM
Nadal in three or four, most likely similar score lines compared to their USO06 encounter. Tsonga will keep up for a set or two but after that Nadal will wear him down

Black Raven
01-22-2008, 12:23 PM
Hopefully Nadal.
Realistically, Tsonga in 4 or 5.

Roger The Great
01-22-2008, 12:25 PM
Nadal in at most four. I just can't see Tsonga winning this.

No offense to Rafa or his fans as you can only play who's across the net from you... But Rafa will make the final of a Grand Slam tournament without having to play a single top 20 player. That's incredible good fortune.

TMJordan
01-22-2008, 12:28 PM
Tsonga!

Ezzzzzzzz

DwyaneWade
01-22-2008, 12:29 PM
Nadal in at most four. I just can't see Tsonga winning this.

No offense to Rafa or his fans as you can only play who's across the net from you... But Rafa will make the final of a Grand Slam tournament without having to play a single top 20 player. That's incredible good fortune.

But if he wins the title a Slam is a slam in the record books ;)

Nadal in five

fishfriend
01-22-2008, 12:30 PM
i hope tsonga but Nadal will prob be too solid physically and mentally

Byrd
01-22-2008, 12:31 PM
Hmmm how unlucky for Murray to draw Tsonga in R1, any other draw in the second half and Murray most probably would of made his first SF, and probable F.

Voo de Mar
01-22-2008, 12:35 PM
It's tough to say, Tsonga amazes me.
Nadal has been playing lucky in many 1st sets at Melbourne. I don't know what will be if he finally lose 1st set 5-7 or 6-7. Tsonga has never played a five-set match... it could be very interesting if Tsonga wins first set (he has a chance to win in 4 or 5 sets). Otherwise another straight sets for Rafa :shrug:

anousleshommes@h
01-22-2008, 12:39 PM
If Tsonga wins the first set, chances are, he'll steamroll past Nadal, proven fact!!!

Exodus
01-22-2008, 12:39 PM
Hopefully Tsonga, Nadal in final would only show how bad all these players are

so true either federer, blake, ferrer or djokovic would utterly destroy nadal like a flie

ShotmaKer
01-22-2008, 12:41 PM
Hopefully Tsonga... he'll have to manage the pressure of playing a really mentally tough player plus the fact that he's in a grand slam SF!! Anyway, I hope his excitment will deserve him!! Reminds me of bagdhatis... :)

Rogiman
01-22-2008, 12:43 PM
I would love to see Tsonga performing the whole Kama Sutra on that lucky bastard Nadal, but realistically it's Nadal all the way to the title :sad:

MissMelly2U
01-22-2008, 12:43 PM
If Tsonga wins the first set, chances are, he'll steamroll past Nadal, proven fact!!!

In what world? Your imagination? :retard:

jenanun
01-22-2008, 12:45 PM
Rafa In 3

bokehlicious
01-22-2008, 12:49 PM
I would love to see Tsonga performing the whole Kama Sutra on that lucky bastard Nadal, but realistically it's Nadal all the way to the title :sad:

Last week I was laughing at your Nadal-wins-it-all tune... Today I have to admit that you were damn spot on :hatoff: :worship: :o

MissMelly2U
01-22-2008, 12:50 PM
If Nadal works over that backhand of Tsonga's with his lefty spin Tsonga's run will be over. He can't come out flat-footed because his retrieval skills will put pressure on Tsonga to make errors. He also needs to hit deep in the court so that Tsonga can't take advantage of the short balls he regularly hits.

If Tsonga plays like he did tonight, and Nadal is slightly off...I smell bacon.

anousleshommes@h
01-22-2008, 12:52 PM
Tsonga will work out how to beat him during the match that's for sure

TMJordan
01-22-2008, 12:53 PM
If Nadal works over that backhand of Tsonga's with his lefty spin Tsonga's run will be over. He can't come out flat-footed because his retrieval skills will put pressure on Tsonga to make errors. He also needs to hit deep in the court so that Tsonga can't take advantage of the short balls he regularly hits.

If Tsonga plays like he did tonight, and Nadal is slightly off...I smell bacon.
If Tsonga plays like he has all tournament, no chance for Nadal, doens't matter how good he is, Tsonga on harcourts is simply better than Nadal, the only question here is if Tsonga can hold his nerves and play mentaly strong.

rofe
01-22-2008, 12:55 PM
Tsonga will fold like a cheap pack of cards. He may put up some resistance in the 1st set but it will soon become a one-sided scoreline.

First GS SF + Nadal's topspin = Tsonga killa.

bokehlicious
01-22-2008, 12:55 PM
the only question here is if Tsonga can hold his nerves and play mentaly strong.

The obvious answer here is: NO

Just another guy who will choke/shit his pants playing the Mighty Pig... :shrug: :zzz:

adee-gee
01-22-2008, 01:00 PM
The obvious answer here is: NO

Just another guy who will choke/shit his pants playing the Mighty Pig... :shrug: :zzz:
Is the same P. Antonius who was gleeful at the sight of Tipsy and Berdman visibly shitting their pants when they played the Mighty GOAT? ;)

sports freak
01-22-2008, 01:00 PM
Fed X would rather play Rafa in the final no doubt,vamos Tsonga you can do it champ!!NO FEAR!!

Loremaster
01-22-2008, 01:01 PM
Nadal in 3 or 4

Tsonga woudl have to run a lot and Nadal seems confident enough his forehand goes exactly into Tsonga backhand and his flat backhand will force Tsonga to play on the run and he hist those forehands awesome when he has time on the run he wasn't that impressive , also he doesn't create many angles as Nalby, Roger , Murray or Youzhny do against Rafa.

Loremaster
01-22-2008, 01:02 PM
Fed X would rather play Rafa in the final no doubt,vamos Tsonga you can do it champ!!NO FEAR!!

Fed X must make final first with in form Djoke(who isn't tired that time) it is anywhere near certain.

tennisgal_001
01-22-2008, 01:02 PM
Its not clay, the topspin doesn't really have much effect, this match is Tsongas to lose depending on whether he controls his UE's & emotions, which intertwine with each other.

It doesn't bounce as high but it's still heavy topspin that will hamper Tsonga's movement and court placement TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, especially if Rafa goes cross-court after Tsonga's backhand. I'm not dismissing JW's chances here, but I doubt he will own up to the task. I won't mind if I'm wrong though ;)

sports freak
01-22-2008, 01:02 PM
I would love to see Tsonga performing the whole Kama Sutra on that lucky bastard Nadal, but realistically it's Nadal all the way to the title :sad:

Enjoy your new avater,Nadal wont win the title not a chance in hell!!

Commander Data
01-22-2008, 01:03 PM
I say Nadal in 3 easy Sets. Tsonga will collaps

bittertea
01-22-2008, 01:04 PM
I would love to see Tsonga performing the whole Kama Sutra on that lucky bastard Nadal, but realistically it's Nadal all the way to the title :sad:

:haha: :haha: :haha:

sports freak
01-22-2008, 01:05 PM
Fed X must make final first with in form Djoke(who isn't tired that time) it is anywhere near certain.

Nole's going home pretty soon!!

Bernard Black
01-22-2008, 01:05 PM
Can't see Nadal dropping a set here, Tsonga might force a breaker if he's lucky.

richie21
01-22-2008, 01:06 PM
Tsonga in 4.
Whatever their bashers would say,you don't beat players like Murray and Gasquet on this surface if you are not a seriously good player.
Also Tsonga has the perfect game(very agressive,great serve,big power+ some variation) to beat Nadal on this surface

Exodus
01-22-2008, 01:09 PM
Tsonga in 4.
Whatever their bashers would say,you don't beat players like Murray and Gasquet on this surface if you are not a seriously good player.
Also Tsonga has the perfect game(very agressive,great serve,big power+ some variation) to beat Nadal on this surface

totally agree. nadal fans are just afraid that tsonga is going to humiliate their idol :devil:

sports freak
01-22-2008, 01:13 PM
totally agree. nadal fans are just afraid that tsonga is going to humiliate their idol :devil:

Rafa's legs are shaking,he might take 55 secs between each point :D

jasmin
01-22-2008, 02:45 PM
I like Nadal but I'm hoping Tsonga take it. If Tsonga is on then maybe he can pull out a win.

Anyway I'm assuming it's going to be Nadal.

juninhOH
01-22-2008, 02:52 PM
if Tsonga win first set, he can win it, if he doesn't, it will be like their US Open match.

Dimonator133
01-22-2008, 02:52 PM
Rafa in 4

Tsonga should be able to serve his way to a set if he serves like he did against Youzhny. Still, it's a much better matchup for Nadal than the Russian would have been.

BlakeJamitis
01-22-2008, 02:54 PM
The Year of the Tsonga!!!

BlakeJamitis
01-22-2008, 03:01 PM
Baby Ali should def win this. He has the game to take the Blake approach against Nadal. In fact, his serve is better than Blake's. If his serve is on & he doesn't spray TONS of errors, he can win this. He should talk to Blake & go in with that gameplan.

tennizen
01-22-2008, 03:03 PM
I am surprised so many people are thinking Nadal will win this semi. It must be the disappointment of seeing him here. Nadal lost to Youzhny and Gonzo who played their best tennis in those respective tourneys. Same with Nalby in Madrid and Paris and Ferrer in Shanghai. Tsonga played very well with Nadal in the first set of USO. He seems to have become a bit more consistent that he was back then. I think Tsonga in 4.

jackieglover
01-22-2008, 03:03 PM
Nadal will be lucky to get to a tiebreak, Tsonga it is!

Dimonator133
01-22-2008, 03:05 PM
I am surprised so many people are thinking Nadal will win this semi. It must be the disappointment of seeing him here. Nadal lost to Youzhny and Gonzo who played their best tennis in those respective tourneys. Same with Nalby in Madrid and Paris and Ferrer in Shanghai. Tsonga played very well with Nadal in the first set of USO. He seems to have become a bit more consistent that he was back then. I think Tsonga in 4.

big deal, Nadal played well against Tsonga for THREE FULL sets!!

and the surface favors Nadal here!!! It favored JWTS at the U.S.!


Nadal in 4

Tennis-Engineer
01-22-2008, 03:07 PM
Interesting result in the poll ! Tsonga 40 -Nadal 30 !!
Has it happened before in MTF that much more members in a poll predict world number 38 would beat number 2 ! Is it because Nadal has a lot of haters here or mtf members really think Tsonga has the ability to do it ?

missvarsha
01-22-2008, 03:08 PM
I doubt piggy will lose more than 10 games over the course of a routine 3 set win.

l_mac
01-22-2008, 03:10 PM
big deal, Nadal played well against Tsonga for THREE FULL sets!!

and the surface favors Nadal here!!! It favored JWTS at the U.S.!


Nadal in 4

The surface suits Nadal? Sure. Nothing he loves more than low bouncing courts.

I know who I want to win, but I think I'll be disappointed. :mad:

Ivanatis
01-22-2008, 03:15 PM
I'd pick Nadal in 4 sets.

However, Tsonga could hurt him a lot as he's exactly that kind of player, Nadal is often struggling against, good serve and very powerful baseline game.

tennizen
01-22-2008, 03:15 PM
big deal, Nadal played well against Tsonga for THREE FULL sets!!

and the surface favors Nadal here!!! It favored JWTS at the U.S.!


Nadal in 4

Like l_mac said nothing to indicate Nadal likes this surface!!. Well glad to know that you think Nadal in 4. It if happens I will send you good wishes across the internet. But as it stands I doubt it.

Corey Feldman
01-22-2008, 03:16 PM
Nadal, no doubt .. but he will lost a set i'm sure

look how well the other 3 Frenchies done against Nadal here

:o

Corey Feldman
01-22-2008, 03:17 PM
Interesting result in the poll ! Tsonga 40Yeah, some ppl smoking some good crack i see ..

Renaud
01-22-2008, 03:21 PM
Interesting result in the poll ! Tsonga 40 -Nadal 30 !!
Has it happened before in MTF that much more members in a poll predict world number 38 would beat number 2 ! Is it because Nadal has a lot of haters here or mtf members really think Tsonga has the ability to do it ?

Reminds me the poll for Mahut / Nadal during the Queens. At one point Nadal lead it 28/0.... And finally lost. :p

CrossCourt13
01-22-2008, 03:22 PM
I don't see how Tsonga would beat Nadal in 4 or 5 sets cause he'll surely have fitness issues by then.
And I definitely don't see Rafa losing in 3.
Rafa will win, Tsonga could take a set but gun to my head I'd say he won't.

Dimonator133
01-22-2008, 03:22 PM
Like l_mac said nothing to indicate Nadal likes this surface!!. Well glad to know that you think Nadal in 4. It if happens I will send you good wishes across the internet. But as it stands I doubt it.

well he obviously likes it a lot better than the U.S.!!!!:wavey:


seriously how do people who think Tsonga is going to win (or so they CLAIM) think he is going to do it????:confused:

richie21
01-22-2008, 03:25 PM
I'd pick Nadal in 4 sets.

However, Tsonga could hurt him a lot as he's exactly that kind of player, Nadal is often struggling against, good serve and very powerful baseline game.

That's an understatement!

BodyServe
01-22-2008, 03:30 PM
That's an understatement!

No,it's right.
There is nothing exceptionnal in his serve (his 2nd serve is quite weak).

ChinoRios4Ever
01-22-2008, 03:30 PM
Rafa to his 1st AO final

Jaap
01-22-2008, 03:30 PM
These occasions is where Nadal makes his living. He will probably be under the cosh for a lot of time in this match but he will find a way to win in 4 or 5 sets as Tsonga tires.

jenanun
01-22-2008, 03:34 PM
its more like a poll of who YOU WANT to win

nanoman
01-22-2008, 03:39 PM
Another match where you can bet your life/wife/kids on.
Routine win for the pig. One tough set is all Tsonga could give.

Linque
01-22-2008, 03:40 PM
Nieminen demolished Tsonga in Adelaide, so judging by that I'd say Nadal. Though maybe it's the tempo tricks that got to Tsonga, and Nadal isn't able to pull it off. Otherwise he's so similar to Nieminen in his game (but better) that I'd be surprised if Tsonga pulled off a win.

Then again Tsonga might pull off another surprise, not a sure thing this at all. I kind of hope Tsonga wins this. Baghdatis got trashed by Nieminen in January 2006 and Baggy got to the finals, so why couldn't Tsonga do it? :)

cc2monac
01-22-2008, 03:43 PM
I hope nadal...because I love rafa and because I don't want to hear about Tsonga during all the year long because he is french and played in the AO final! no way! vamos rafa!

adee-gee
01-22-2008, 03:44 PM
The surface suits Nadal? Sure. Nothing he loves more than low bouncing courts.
Of course it does. It's blue clay. ;)

sawan66278
01-22-2008, 03:45 PM
Tsonga must win in straight sets...if not...he will not outlast a fresh Rafa, who will chase everything down. I was actually pleased that Nadal was forced to face a LOT of hard, flat shots from Jarkko. Tsonga has not yet faced a player with the amount of work on the ball that Rafa brings. His fitness will be sorely tested.

Rafa in four.

VAMOS!!!!!!!!!!

Dimonator133
01-22-2008, 03:46 PM
Nieminen demolished Tsonga in Adelaide, so judging by that I'd say Nadal.


That kind of logic never works. I mean Youzhny just DESTROYED Nadal and Tsonga just DESTROYED Youzhny, so what do you say to that?

And don't tell me Nadal was TIRED because of the Moya match. 6-0, 6-1 is 6-0, 6-1 anyway you cut it.

alfonsojose
01-22-2008, 03:46 PM
Tsonga will choke :zzz:

alfonsojose
01-22-2008, 03:48 PM
Another match where you can bet your life/wife/kids on.
Routine win for the pig. One tough set is all Tsonga could give.

:haha: :haha:

shotgun
01-22-2008, 04:26 PM
Tsonga should win if current form is anything to go by.

TMJordan
01-22-2008, 04:28 PM
That kind of logic never works. I mean Youzhny just DESTROYED Nadal and Tsonga just DESTROYED Youzhny, so what do you say to that?

And don't tell me Nadal was TIRED because of the Moya match. 6-0, 6-1 is 6-0, 6-1 anyway you cut it.

Exactly, you can't go by that.

It's all about matchups, and IF Tsonga can keep his cool there is no reason why he can't win as Nadal does not like playing a guy who can serve as big as Tsonga and who has a forehand like Tsonga.

Should be a very good match.

richie21
01-22-2008, 04:29 PM
Nieminen demolished Tsonga in Adelaide, so judging by that I'd say Nadal. Though maybe it's the tempo tricks that got to Tsonga, and Nadal isn't able to pull it off. Otherwise he's so similar to Nieminen in his game (but better) that I'd be surprised if Tsonga pulled off a win.

Then again Tsonga might pull off another surprise, not a sure thing this at all. I kind of hope Tsonga wins this. Baghdatis got trashed by Nieminen in January 2006 and Baggy got to the finals, so why couldn't Tsonga do it? :)



Tsonga beat in straight sets Youznhy(including a bagel) who himself destroyed Nadal in Chenai 1 week ago so going by your logic, Tsonga should destroy Nadal.....:o

Corey Feldman
01-22-2008, 04:33 PM
Muzza made Tsonga the player he is now ..

cmurray
01-22-2008, 04:50 PM
Muzza made Tsonga the player he is now ..

Mikey, congrats. I wasn't sure how you could work Muzz into a thread that has NOTHING to do with him. But you did just beautifully. All we need now is somebody to take a pot shot at Gasquet. :angel:

Incidentally, did the OP say that his Wimby 2007 draw was EASY????

Fish
Eschauer
Soderling
Youzhny
Berdych
Djokovic
Federer

:rolleyes:

TMJordan
01-22-2008, 04:52 PM
Mikey, congrats. I wasn't sure how you could work Muzz into a thread that has NOTHING to do with him. But you did just beautifully. All we need now is somebody to take a pot shot at Gasquet. :angel:

Incidentally, did the OP say that his Wimby 2007 draw was EASY????

Fish
Eschauer
Soderling
Youzhny
Berdych
Djokovic
Federer

:rolleyes:
What and easy match :p

PamposCypriot
01-22-2008, 04:53 PM
Rafa on 3... I dont see something special in Tsonga's game...Its just that every year AO needs a new hero, this year is Tsonga...

Dimonator133
01-22-2008, 04:57 PM
Rafa on 3... I dont see something special in Tsonga's game...Its just that every year AO needs a new hero, this year is Tsonga...

well every year that hero makes it to the final...

Exodus
01-22-2008, 05:01 PM
and hopefully Ali "tsonga" is the one! :)

cmurray
01-22-2008, 05:02 PM
What and easy match :p

:lol:

BodyServe
01-22-2008, 05:04 PM
I assume OP meant Wimbledon 2006

cmurray
01-22-2008, 05:06 PM
I assume OP meant Wimbledon 2006

i really hope so.

Renaud
01-22-2008, 05:07 PM
I assume OP meant Wimbledon 2006

You assume well... why the fuck do we change the year every 12 months ? :o

DhammaTiger
01-22-2008, 05:13 PM
I will go with Rafa because of his experience and tenacity. Sure, he can lose to Tsonga but odds are he won't. After all Rafa has been there and done it numerous times for nearly 3 years on the trot, and someone mentioned Rafa has always made it through to the final after every GS Semi he has been in. Remember he faced Djokovic in last year's Wimby semi, and yet went through. But as they say anything can happen on a tennis court, and we have seen our fair share in the last 9 days. I for one being faint hearted is fearful for Rafa but I hope to see my fears become groundless. However, whether Rafa wins or loses I will still continue to root for him come what may.
Vamos Rafa!

anousleshommes@h
01-22-2008, 05:14 PM
if Tsonga win first set, he can win it, if he doesn't, it will be like their US Open match.

ive been screamin this for a while now lol

sawan66278
01-22-2008, 05:17 PM
Muzza made Tsonga the player he is now ..

That was BY FAR the best of his victories at this slam. When he defeated a player with the return game of Muzza...I knew the man had arrived.

And that will be the key for Rafa: how well does he return the Tsonga serve?

Pixie
01-22-2008, 05:27 PM
Tsonga has trouble returning the lefty serve to his backhand, Rafa will serve to that side all day long.

agree here, that's always been a weakness contrary to some other hard hitters whose game don't suit Nadal. Though, given Jo's shape I'd give him at least one set provided he stays in this current mode.

stebs
01-22-2008, 05:53 PM
Tsonga wins one set by a 6/3 or 6/4 margin.
Nadal wins two sets by a 7/5 or 7/6 margin.
Nadal wins one set by a 6/3 or 6/2 margin.

Ending up with Nadal winning in four.

FedFan_2007
01-22-2008, 06:04 PM
Tsonga too steady for Nadal. He'll hold serve easily, and put huge pressure on Rafa to hold.

Andi-M
01-22-2008, 06:22 PM
Tsonga in 4. Without a doubt.

lisaplenske
01-22-2008, 06:23 PM
Tsonga not afraid of Nadal or the physical challenge that he will put him.He's a fighter andhopefully he will produce the same quality tennis that he made against youzhni.
He hasnt the same experience as nadal but he deserves his place in the final 4 and he knows it.
Allez JO,be you; relax,great fighter,modest and above all: YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.:yeah:

tennizen
01-22-2008, 06:34 PM
Tsonga not afraid of Nadal or the physical challenge that he will put him.He's a fighter andhopefully he will produce the same quality tennis that he made against youzhni.
He hasnt the same experience as nadal but he deserves his place in the final 4 and he knows it.
Allez JO,be you; relax,great fighter,modest and above all: YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.:yeah:

Alert: The word deserve has been used inappropriately here. The logic police have to be called here shortly.:devil:

PS: Nothing to do with your post. Tsonga might make it to the final anyways:)

MyPrecious
01-22-2008, 06:35 PM
I think there will be blood.......and a huge upset with Tsonga winning and then getting his ass handed to him in the final via Fed or Djoke :devil:

Of course if that doesn't happen it will be Nadal getting his ass handed to him in the final via Fed or Djoke ;)

R.Federer
01-22-2008, 07:29 PM
Hmmm, it seems that Tsonga is playing with the same abandon that took Gonzo to his first GS final last year. ;)

Merton
01-22-2008, 07:38 PM
Nadal should win but Tsonga definitely has good chances and it will not be like their match at the US Open.

tennis2tennis
01-22-2008, 07:40 PM
my heart says tsonga my mind days nadal

Heavenseventeen
01-22-2008, 07:46 PM
Either one. I don't mind who wins because I like them both! Tsonga was great at Queen's though.

bokehlicious
01-22-2008, 08:00 PM
Another match where you can bet your life/wife/kids on.
Routine win for the pig. One tough set is all Tsonga could give.

:yeah: safe bet

The Freak
01-22-2008, 08:03 PM
Tsonga will win and I'm willing putting all my vcash on it.

scarecrows
01-22-2008, 08:07 PM
Tsonga will win and I'm willing putting all my vcash on it.

998 vCash? :lol:

I'll put 10k on piggy :cool:

The Freak
01-22-2008, 08:19 PM
998 vCash? :lol:

I'll put 10k on piggy :cool:

Haha i know :o, the point is that I'm 100% confident Tsonga is going to win. ;)

DrJules
01-22-2008, 08:22 PM
Nadal to win in 3 sets.

Tsonga is out of his depth.

cardio
01-22-2008, 08:26 PM
I think betting sites underestimate Tsonga like they underestimated Sharapova. Both earned nice real cash for me today. Odds on Tsonga in SF is 4.00 , on Nadal 1.22.
It is worth to take a risk one more time and put all on red hot Tsonga

Gldngrl
01-22-2008, 08:27 PM
I think Nadal will take it in three. If Tsonga believes enough, he could give Rafa considerable stress. But IMO Rafa is the more talented player, and an expert at playing the critical points of the match well. It's a big occasion for Tsonga. I see him blowing his wad prematurely, and Rafa's patience/experience getting him through to the final.

Halba
01-22-2008, 08:39 PM
last yrs results for tsonga mean nothing as does past H2H. This tsonga is good.

RedFury
01-22-2008, 08:56 PM
The obviously better player wins. Rafa in three.

No problem.

Deivid23
01-22-2008, 09:48 PM
Nadal should win but Tsonga definitely has good chances and it will not be like their match at the US Open.

Good eye as always. Dangerous match for Rafa it is

Corey Feldman
01-22-2008, 10:40 PM
Mikey, congrats. I wasn't sure how you could work Muzz into a thread that has NOTHING to do with him. But you did just beautifully. All we need now is somebody to take a pot shot at Gasquet. :angel:Well he did Muzza's job by beating Gasquet as well, although any old mug can beat him :p

Merton
01-22-2008, 11:42 PM
Good eye as always. Dangerous match for Rafa it is

In my mind the match will depend on how Tsonga's backhand, and especially his backhand return, holds. I disagree with those saying the occassion of the first slam semi will get to Tsonga, it might but I don't see it. He has nothing to lose and it will certainly be much more interesting than the US Open match.

Marek.
01-23-2008, 12:10 AM
Nadal should win, but I wouldn't be surprised if Tsonga does or has chances to.

gogogirl
01-23-2008, 12:26 AM
Hey All,

This is a tough one - because Rafa is great at tracking down balls and redirecting them. Yet, I'm another one that does not feel the occasion will overwhelm J. W.. This young man is a ripe for the picking as a peach on a tree. He is fired up. He will be our Baggy and Gonzo for 2008.

I wouldn't be surprised if Rafa wins it - but in my mind's eye - I can see J. W. hitting about 50 winners. Rafa is not known for hitting that many - and IMO - the winner to ue count will come into play.

How exciting would it be if J. W. made the final? Some want to see the number one and two players fight it out again - but I'm ready to see Baby Ali go a few rounds/sets w/FedEx.

"TAKE HIM DOWN FOR THE COUNT - TSONGA" "DO THE ROPE A DOPE ON 'EM"

helgagonzalez
01-23-2008, 01:48 AM
it's gonna be rafa, but he's in for a tough match.
Vamos RAFA! :D

TMJordan
01-23-2008, 06:03 AM
Look who Nadal has beaten this year.

IF (key word here) Tsonga keeps his head straight there is no reason why he can't blow Nadal off the court.

DDrago2
01-23-2008, 06:06 AM
Tsonga can take out only sub-par Nadal

tennisgal_001
01-23-2008, 06:09 AM
Look who Nadal has beaten this year.

IF (key word here) Tsonga keeps his head straight there is no reason why he can't blow Nadal off the court.

That's a HUGE "if".

freeandlonely
01-23-2008, 06:13 AM
Nadal. 7-6 7-5 6-0

Gandalf
01-23-2008, 06:38 AM
I think Nadal is going to get into Tsonga's head and is going to win in three sets, the first close, the other two easy.

But I would prefer Tsonga to win, if only because Nadal's draw has been so easy that I think he is underserving of being in the final.

Sean.J.S.
01-23-2008, 06:41 AM
Rafa in three.

~*BGT*~
01-23-2008, 07:18 AM
I'm so torn. :sobbing: A fan shouldn't have to choose (unless it's Andy. ;) )

Turquoise
01-23-2008, 08:57 AM
The Tsonga of last year was pretty much hit or miss. He's got more controlled aggression now, and his volleys have improved. He's more of a frontrunner, so he needs to find a way to prevail in the first set, otherwise he'll struggle to sustain the pressure against a mentally strong opponent like Nadal. He has to be careful charging to the net too often, especially on second serves, as Nadal will pass him all day long.

At the start of the tournament, I would never have believed that he would set up a semi-final clash against Nadal, taking the scalps of 3 top seeded players en route. The difference is that he believes, and that's what matters. He's got nothing to lose, so play on Tsonga!

Deivid23
01-23-2008, 08:59 AM
It´s either Tsonga in 4 or Nadal in 5 imo

Exodus
01-23-2008, 10:12 AM
ali in three sets no question about that

vincayou
01-23-2008, 10:12 AM
The more the match last, the more it will favour Rafa. JoW tends to have a dip from third set this open. Starting well is a must if he wants to go further.

Aguante_el_Gato
01-23-2008, 10:18 AM
Jo-W in 4!

xtiano
01-23-2008, 10:25 AM
Hope Tsonga's dream run goes on...

Daniel
01-23-2008, 10:31 AM
Tsonga .

Apemant
01-23-2008, 10:52 AM
Depends on Tsonga's patience and ability to cope with the situation. Based on their performances thus far, Tsonga does have the baseline power, good serve, and other tools that people who beat Nadal usually have (Berdych, Blake & co.). Heck, he's even quite good at the net, and uses S&V rather often, and successfully. So, if there wasn't this little aspect of Nadal's psyche (determination and never-say-die attitude - granted, lately he's been yielding in several matches but not GS matches yet), I'd say Tsonga would win.

But, I don't really believe Tsonga will be able to cope with many disappointments that Nadal's style of playing will make him suffer. Guys like that often hang their head a bit when faced with several really nasty counter-winners in a row. Points which they already count as theirs in their heads, but then see them slip away from their hands. Such things will create tension and nervousness in Tsonga's game, as seen so many times with different people who face Nadal. So if Nadal wins the 1st set, the other two will be a mere formality, I think.

On the other hand, I haven't seen enough of Tsonga's matches to be a good judge of his psyche. Maybe he's really tough. I don't know.

ivankg
01-23-2008, 12:34 PM
Rafa in 4

stebs
01-23-2008, 03:24 PM
It´s either Tsonga in 4 or Nadal in 5 imo

Pretty much what I feel although I also think Nadal may close it in four. Certainly though Tsonga is very unlikely to win this one in five, if he wants to beat Nadal he will need to come out and win the match in a detached manner, if he gets emroiled in a battle he will beaten, once Nadal gets this deep in a slam he will be fighting very hard and if Tsonga gives him half chances at moments like 5-5 in a breaker Nadal has the ability to make things happen off front or back foot.

Tennis-Engineer
01-23-2008, 03:29 PM
Tsonga in 4.But if Nadal wins the first set no way Tsonga can win the match imo.

dijus
01-23-2008, 03:52 PM
Tsonga

Skyward
01-23-2008, 04:08 PM
:shrug:

What am I reading here? Tsonga in 4, Nadal in 5...

Nadal in 3 or 4 ( the worst scenario). Experience should prevail in this case.

Dimonator133
01-23-2008, 04:17 PM
It'll be a good one. Nadal in 4.

match preview (http://www.protennisblog.com/3.html)

avocadoe
01-23-2008, 04:22 PM
Nadal in 3 or 4 close ones...

Agassi Fan
01-23-2008, 04:25 PM
Rafa in 3 or 4.

sawan66278
01-23-2008, 04:32 PM
In the style of Ali, a poem Jo has my permission to use:


The semis will be contested for all of the fans,
How many believed Tsonga would still stand?
Going by the beat of a different drummer,
those who picked Muzza surely look dumber.
Facing the dynamo whose mastery is clay,
He'll reach for his butt: I say thee nay.
Mallorca's his home as everyone knows,
Book his flight for Thursday, cause that's where he'll go.
His forehand, speed, and heart are of legend,
The power of Tsonga makes that all irrelevant.


Onto the finals, and who shall I meet?
00 Ego or the Master of Cheat?
If its Roger, the one the fans all adore,
I'll crush that slice backhand, and show him the door.
Mirka will text all her friends the truth,
Tsonga is here; Roger's dominance went "poof".
And that record of Pete's you wanted to tame?
Jo Will's now the master, it is mine now to gain.
And what of the Serbian sensation, so young?
Ball bouncing and fake injuries only get you so far, my son.

As I raise the trophy for the world to see,
A new order is established: away with the three.
I am a just ruler, I'll give you some tourneys.
But when it comes to the slams, only Jo Will shall be earnin'

Mario000
01-23-2008, 04:39 PM
i hope Tsonga

Myrre
01-23-2008, 04:49 PM
Tsonga has the weapons to outgun Rafa, who hopefully will be standing way too far behind the baseline and hitting too short. Tsonga in four.

*Ljubica*
01-23-2008, 04:49 PM
I hope Tsonga too :) Nothing would make me happier. But sadly I think Nadal will prevail, - Tsonga doesn't have much experience of the "big occasion" and I fear he will freeze or choke :sad: and I'll spend tomorrow morning watching the live scores from work wishing in vain for an upset.

NyGeL
01-23-2008, 08:27 PM
Rafa in 3

Dimonator133
01-23-2008, 08:41 PM
Tsonga has the weapons to outgun Rafa, who hopefully will be standing way too far behind the baseline and hitting too short. Tsonga in four.

i think Nads SHOULD return serve from far behind the baseline (MOST of the time; he will have to give T'Nator different looks SOME of the time). Once he gets it back in play he can make his way up to the baseline where he will have a distinct advantage once points become prototypical rallies.

BlakeJamitis
01-23-2008, 11:22 PM
The Year of the TSONGA!!!

gogogirl
01-23-2008, 11:31 PM
Hey All,

I'm picking Tsonga myself. Fate just might play her full house hand for the young man. He seems to be a real legit tennis player and has a good and plenty game.

And what is this about J. W. won't be able to handle the big occasion? What? He's handled them all so far - for he is in the semis. If anything - he is smart enough to know that on this stage is where he needs to continue bringing his A game and believe he can win it. Half of the battle is about belief. Conceive - believe - achieve. He can do it. We shall see if his A game can beat Rafa's.

I'll have to set the alarm for this one. I enjoy tennis enough to watch whomever makes the final - but I kind of wish it won't be a Fed/Rafa affair - again. And if they make it they'll deserve to be there I know, and yada, but I want to see a shake up of the old guard - indeed.

"COME ON - T-MAN" "WIN THE WHOLE DAMN THING"

Yappa
01-23-2008, 11:38 PM
Pretty sad, that none of the big french networks (TF 1, France Télévisions) honor Tsonga's achievement by broadcasting the SF. Germany might suck, when it comes to the non existent coverage of Masters Series events, but at least they usually decide to broadcast SFs of GS events, if germans are playing. See the Aussie Open 2006 and 2007 with the Kiefer and Haas matches on ARD. OTOH, the license can't be easily acquired through the EBU anymore, so I don't know how much that is a factor.

Corey Feldman
01-24-2008, 12:59 AM
wow :eek: never expected this poll to be so close

who woulda thought over 100 MTF'ers are smoking some good weed ..

groundstroke
01-24-2008, 02:06 AM
Rafael Nadal in four.

W!MBLEDON
01-24-2008, 04:29 AM
The roof is closed for the WTA match; if it keeps raining, the roof will still be closed. Will the players playing indoors affect the outcome of this match? Will Tsonga have the advantage indoors?

Ferrero Forever
01-24-2008, 04:33 AM
This match could go either way. I really really hope it's Rafa, I hope Rafa wins the whole thing. And I don't like Tsonga, so I'm hoping Rafa can get through. But saying that, Tsonga has been in great form, and someone's gotta follow the tradition of the last 2 years and make it into the final and get their arse kicked by Roger.

TMJordan
01-24-2008, 05:06 AM
This match could go either way. I really really hope it's Rafa, I hope Rafa wins the whole thing. And I don't like Tsonga, so I'm hoping Rafa can get through. But saying that, Tsonga has been in great form, and someone's gotta follow the tradition of the last 2 years and make it into the final and get their arse kicked by Roger.

You like Nadal, Robredo, Gonzalez and Del Potro. :help:

What is the reason you "don't like Tsonga" Because he is one of the nicest guys on tour.

TMJordan
01-24-2008, 05:07 AM
The roof is closed for the WTA match; if it keeps raining, the roof will still be closed. Will the players playing indoors affect the outcome of this match? Will Tsonga have the advantage indoors?

Indoors has got to favor Tsonga, no question about it.

What is the forecast like for tonight?

ciprianned
01-24-2008, 05:24 AM
Tsonga have 46.96%
Nadal have 53.04%

leng jai
01-24-2008, 05:54 AM
If Tsonga plays the same as he did against Youzhny, Rafa is in trouble

Laba
01-24-2008, 06:01 AM
I can't look past Rafa in 3 or 4 sets. The first set will be critical for Tsonga and I think he'll really need to win it to have a solid chance. Nadal has saved set points off three other opponents, and while they may not be at the level of J.W...it certainly doesn't stop Rafa from his never-say-die attitude and tenacity on the court. I'm pumped for this match, should be a fun one.

tennisgal_001
01-24-2008, 06:12 AM
Indoors has got to favor Tsonga, no question about it.

What is the forecast like for tonight?

According to weather.com, showers should start again around 9 PM (in 3 hours' time) so if that's true then they'll probably begin the match under a closed roof.

http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/hourbyhour/ASXX0075?from=36hr_topnav_business


Wunderground.com says it's overcast tonight with a 50% chance of precipitation.

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Melbourne%2C+Australia


It's hard to tell which is more accurate, but it looks like it could rain tonight.

Corey Feldman
01-24-2008, 10:13 AM
wow :eek: never expected this poll to be so close

who woulda thought over 100 MTF'ers are smoking some good weed ..See what i mean?

over 100 weed smokers picking Rafa

;)

:haha:

dragons112
01-24-2008, 10:13 AM
tsongs

cardio
01-24-2008, 10:16 AM
I doubt piggy will lose more than 10 games over the course of a routine 3 set win.

:haha:

TMJordan
01-24-2008, 10:17 AM
MTF is full of mugs. :wavey:

cardio
01-24-2008, 10:21 AM
Another match where you can bet your life/wife/kids on.
Routine win for the pig. One tough set is all Tsonga could give.
So dellusional... and without life/wife/ kids probably after today:haha::haha::haha:

maf
01-24-2008, 10:21 AM
some people are gonna get quoted :lol:

Voo de Mar
01-24-2008, 10:24 AM
See what i mean?

over 100 weed smokers picking Rafa

;)

:haha:

:haha: :yeah:

cardio
01-24-2008, 10:37 AM
Tsonga will fold like a cheap pack of cards. He may put up some resistance in the 1st set but it will soon become a one-sided scoreline.

First GS SF + Nadal's topspin = Tsonga killa.
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
Can you actually recognize a good powerplayer if you see him playing or just live in your own dreamworld?

anousleshommes@h
01-24-2008, 10:38 AM
So dellusional... and without life/wife/ kids probably after today:haha::haha::haha:

LMAO

anousleshommes@h
01-24-2008, 10:38 AM
some people are gonna get quoted :lol:

Oh yea baby

anousleshommes@h
01-24-2008, 10:39 AM
See what i mean?

over 100 weed smokers picking Rafa

;)

:haha:

The joke's on u now!!!

cardio
01-24-2008, 10:51 AM
All jokes aside,Rafa didnt play so bad, but I am glad Tsonga overplayed him completely. It is not just about Tsonga ,it is about style of play general. I like powerplay, good volleys, some moments Tsonga had almost Edberg-touch at the net. And he earned me 4 times more real cash than I put on him :)

Corey Feldman
01-24-2008, 10:55 AM
The joke's on u now!!!Shutit big moof ;)