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Can Djokovic really beat Federer?

groundstroke
01-21-2008, 08:49 PM
Djokovic is in Federer's draw I think, do you think he can beat Federer?
I think Nole could beat Rafa but he has no chance against Federer and never will.

TMJordan
01-21-2008, 08:52 PM
He can, and he will.

Aloimeh
01-21-2008, 08:54 PM
Djokovic is in Federer's draw I think, do you think he can beat Federer?
I think Nole could beat Rafa but he has no chance against Federer and never will.

Why shouldn't he have a chance against Federer. He already beat him once and in the US Open had multiple chances (multiple set points). Once he settles the mental side of things, I think he certainly has the game to beat Federer.

Farenhajt
01-21-2008, 08:56 PM
He most definitely CAN ( = is able to), and the "will" part is the matter of time. Hopefully, the time is now. I think Nole's advice helped Janko a lot, and in return Janko's match will prove valuable to Nole.

l_mac
01-21-2008, 09:01 PM
Djokovic is in Federer's draw I think, do you think he can beat Federer?
I think Nole could beat Rafa but he has no chance against Federer and never will.

He's beaten Roger before. So the answer you are looking for is, "Yes."

elessar
01-21-2008, 09:05 PM
He most definitely CAN ( = is able to), and the "will" part is the matter of time. Hopefully, the time is now. I think Nole's advice helped Janko a lot, and in return Janko's match will prove valuable to Nole.

If Djoko's advice was hit to the FH not the BH I can safely say that Tipsy would have figured it out eventually. In return Janko could teach Djoko how not to choke on set points:D

As for the OP the answer is obviously yes, whether or not he will is a different matter

FitDave
01-21-2008, 09:05 PM
Djoko=Fedkilla

elessar
01-21-2008, 09:07 PM
Djoko=Fedkilla once every 10 matches or so

That's better :D

FitDave
01-21-2008, 09:08 PM
That's better :D

Stop editing my quotes you gimp:retard:

Blondie1985
01-21-2008, 09:19 PM
he can but he won't

elessar
01-21-2008, 09:22 PM
Stop editing my quotes you gimp:retard:

It's ok to be a little sad because your hero lost :hug:

Bascule
01-21-2008, 10:17 PM
Bad question, he already did, so he can.
And what's this stuff 'really'? Can he beat him 'unreally'?
What was the question you wanted 'really' to ask?

Andi-M
01-21-2008, 10:20 PM
Err yeah and he will

I fancy his chances in the semi's more than I would in a final.

ivankg
01-21-2008, 10:21 PM
Hopefully Djokovic will prove it once more in the semis.

RagingLamb
01-21-2008, 10:27 PM
he already beat Federer. did you not know that?

DwyaneWade
01-21-2008, 10:31 PM
Since we have established that he can (since it already happened), I think he will if he shows enough nerve. He is playing better baseline tennis than Federer and can move Federer side to side. If he serves well and does a decent job returning, it will be a terrific match (reminiscent of Safin-Federer).

calvinhobbes
01-21-2008, 11:15 PM
I don´t see Nole winning a Slam match against Fed, yet. Nole´s breathing is near faulty, and in a five setter he could choke, like happened against Ferrer. His nature is still fragile as seen in his Sharapova impersonation. He lacks pulmonary volume . . . .in his impersonation, I mean.:devil::devil:

Manon
01-21-2008, 11:58 PM
He most definitely CAN ( = is able to), and the "will" part is the matter of time. Hopefully, the time is now. I think Nole's advice helped Janko a lot, and in return Janko's match will prove valuable to Nole.

Yep

calvinhobbes
01-22-2008, 12:15 AM
He most definitely CAN ( = is able to), and the "will" part is the matter of time. Hopefully, the time is now. I think Nole's advice helped Janko a lot, and in return Janko's match will prove valuable to Nole.

Nole´s advice to Janko could backfire because it served Fed´s interest of making a five-setter as a training experience. A much needed experience since Wimbledon. In no other way this business could influence the possible Nole-Fed match.

Farenhajt
01-22-2008, 12:37 AM
...making a five-setter as a training experience.

Somehow it never showed on his face, not for a second, that he's enjoying that "training". What he was practicing is being God-fearing enough to receive the mercy of Janko eventually getting tired enough to concede the match.

(As for true training sessions, see "Hartfield" and "Santoro".)

trixtah
01-22-2008, 01:22 AM
He can and if he faces off with Roger, now is a great opportunity to take advantage of Roger's weak play in this AO. No choking this time.

Corey Feldman
01-22-2008, 01:59 AM
I am not writing Fed off, usually when he has an up and coming match that ppl think he's vunerable - he brings the 'out of this planet' tennis

so get your excuses ready Djokotards.

I think Nole's advice helped Janko a lot, and in return Janko's match will prove valuable to Nole.typical

somehow you make count cheatula take the credit for Tipsy's match v Fed.... funny one considering Tipsy took 2 of 5 sets against him at a GS and nole has taken 0 FOR 6 AGAINST HIM.

guga2120
01-22-2008, 02:11 AM
Of course he can, but he won't, not this year.

Farenhajt
01-22-2008, 02:56 AM
I am not writing Fed off, usually when he has an up and coming match that ppl think he's vunerable - he brings the 'out of this planet' tennis

so get your excuses ready Djokotards.

typical

somehow you make count cheatula take the credit for Tipsy's match v Fed.... funny one considering Tipsy took 2 of 5 sets against him at a GS and nole has taken 0 FOR 6 AGAINST HIM.

I just got a postcard saying:

Meilleurs voeux à tous les Ecossais, mais ce petit gnome peut prendre quelques leçons de tennis - J-W. T.

Fedex
01-22-2008, 06:10 AM
He can, but Federer will always be a big favorite in their matchups.

bokehlicious
01-22-2008, 06:15 AM
I think Nole's advice helped Janko a lot,

:haha: Nole's tips made Roger play like crap :yeah: damn this guy is goooood :cool:

Fedex
01-22-2008, 06:17 AM
Since we have established that he can (since it already happened), I think he will if he shows enough nerve. He is playing better baseline tennis than Federer and can move Federer side to side. If he serves well and does a decent job returning, it will be a terrific match (reminiscent of Safin-Federer).
No, he hasn't established anything yet since he's never beaten Federer is a best of 5 set match or even taken a set from him. Beating Federer in a slam different than taking him down in a best of three set match. We already saw how he handled the pressure of a slam match and he wilted.

Djokovic doesn't have the big serve or the overwhelming pace on his groundstrokes like Safin had, however. He'd have to play an extremely solid match just to hang with Federer and Djokovic is going to have to rely on some errors from Federer.

I dont like his negative attitude either. He can get real down on himself after making a few errors and that WILL be problematic against Federer. Tipsarevic held a postive confident energy for the entire match and that is what its going to take to even have a chance.

jenanun
01-22-2008, 06:27 AM
yes but not in a GS....

only rafa can beat fed in GS but I doubt he can do it on HC.. but then this yr probably is his best chance if both rafa and fed advance into the final

Bibberz
01-22-2008, 06:34 AM
I think Djokovic's chances are decent. If he was playing Fed in a GS final, then I'd say his chances would be slim to none.

DrJules
01-22-2008, 06:38 AM
Yes.

Halba
01-22-2008, 07:02 AM
yes. he needs to beat ferrer in four minimum. he doesn't want to go 5 set marathon against ferrer.

groundstroke
01-22-2008, 07:03 AM
I know he beat Federer in the Montreal Cup, but I meant in the Slam's.

dragons112
01-22-2008, 08:34 AM
He can, and he will.

He never will. HEwitt exposed weaknesses and roger can play a whole lot better than him

bokehlicious
01-22-2008, 08:37 AM
Of course he can :cool: he's already proven he's a far superior player than that transitional champ...

helgagonzalez
01-22-2008, 09:00 AM
He has beaten Federer before. So, yes he can... But in a GS, maybe not yet.

Ivanatis
01-22-2008, 09:02 AM
he surely can, but it won't be easy

and he has to beat Ferrer first, who seems to be in great shape and we witnessed last US Open and Masters Cup what this means

juninhOH
01-22-2008, 09:46 AM
In my opinion Federer played pretty sloppy at both Montreal and US Open final. More or less like he did against Tipsarevic. Probably part of that was OBVIOUSLY because of the guy on the other side of the net (Djokovic), but he also didn't play well. In my humble opinion.

If Federer can play like against Berdych I really think he has better chances.

Rogiman
01-22-2008, 09:51 AM
He can, and he will.Ditto. Only to lose the final to Nadal.

Exodus
01-22-2008, 10:04 AM
federer will win and play youtzny in the final

Commander Data
01-22-2008, 10:13 AM
Yes he can and sooner or later he will beat him. hopefully not yet this year!

maqk
01-22-2008, 12:28 PM
He can beat Federer as he beat him last time

Foxy
01-22-2008, 12:44 PM
Probably you will laugh at me or call me crazy or stupid but I do think really that Federer is more vulnerable at best-of-5-sets matches (I am not excluding the non-Slam events). There have always been smth strange in Roger's fitness. There are some matches in the past which can prove that even where he has won.

That doesn't mean Djokovic is fitter than Roger. Just the opposite.
Whatever. I think the first set will be crucial.

jasmin
01-22-2008, 02:46 PM
I think he can the way Fed is playing but of course I hope not.

Julio
01-22-2008, 02:50 PM
Of course he can and he should win AO this year. :)

KitinovRules
01-22-2008, 04:15 PM
The Faker must win first against Ferrer. He is big favourite but I would really like to see real match.
The Faker so far got out with the easiest draw of all 1/4 finalists , including beating MTF's favourite Hewitt :) after the Ausie finished the 5 setter early in the morning.

As of Federer, if Roger repeats his best, The Faker will go home in 3 straight sets.

zookeeper
01-22-2008, 04:23 PM
I think he can. I'm not sure he will at this years AO but I hope he does.

LoveKim
01-22-2008, 07:08 PM
Wrong question.
Can Rodger let Djok to beat him? Theoretically, yes. Just because of Tips' match. In practice, no chance. Warm up with Blake and best form finishing event. For sure.:p

Kuhne
01-22-2008, 09:09 PM
Roger let Djokovic beat him and then get close in the US Open final, he was making stupid errors but then held his own in those break points.

So basicaly it goes like this.

If we get the Roger who went to 5 with Janko, then yes, he was a very real chance of winning.

If we get the Roger who played against Nadal in Shangai, Djoko is years away from achieving that kind of game.

groundstroke
01-24-2008, 02:02 AM
Of course he can and he should win AO this year. :)
Any reason on how he can beat the world's 1st and then 2nd (if he wins) best player?
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He can beat Federer as he beat him last time
No last time Federer beat him in the US Open Final, genius.
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Of course he can :cool: he's already proven he's a far superior player than that transitional champ...
How many Grand Slam's has Federer won?
How many Grand Slam's has Djokovic won?
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RagingLamb
01-24-2008, 03:27 AM
no one can beat Federer, unless Federer let's them win

ciprianned
01-24-2008, 05:49 AM
tomorrow no , maybe later :))))))))

Rogiman
01-24-2008, 06:09 AM
People suggesting Federer will raise his level just like he did last year against Roddick ignore the fact that Roddick's pathetic defense and awkward decision-making make Federer look at his best most of the time.

Novak has the type of game that irritates the hell out of Federer (steady, solid strokes off both sides with great defense) combined with the ability to hit outright winners.

Scotso
01-24-2008, 06:25 AM
Of course he can. Hopefully he will, as well. But I think Federer is a pretty heavy favorite.

Greenday
01-24-2008, 06:31 AM
People suggesting Federer will raise his level just like he did last year against Roddick ignore the fact that Roddick's pathetic defense and awkward decision-making make Federer look at his best most of the time.

Novak has the type of game that irritates the hell out of Federer (steady, solid strokes off both sides with great defense) combined with the ability to hit outright winners.

One thing's for sure.. roger is not going to involve in baseline rallies with novak,... can he stay with him from the baseline ofcourse he can..if he can stay with nalbandian on clay from baseline, he pretty much can stay with anybody (well, lets leave out nadal on clay)...roger is not going to give novak, a ball tht sits up at the net's height begging to be hit..he will pretty much do wat he did to james, novak will be lifting his forehands and backhands up the net, he can keep it up may be for a set, and then it will break down.....like in USO final, he was hitting deep sliced backhands to novak's backhand with absolutely no pace on them, and novak was making so many errors of tht wing...The match result will come down to roger's serve period. If he can find his serve, then there is no way in hell tht novak is going to beat roger.

Scotso
01-24-2008, 06:55 AM
One thing's for sure.. roger is not going to involve in baseline rallies with novak

I'll be shocked if he makes a habit of charging the net.

Monteque
01-24-2008, 07:11 AM
I believe he CAN. The problem is his mental enough strong to do that?

40% chance he beat Fed.

almouchie
01-24-2008, 09:50 AM
i realllly think Novak is ready to take on federer
probably more so in the semis than in the final
its better for him to take him with one match left that in the final
becoz in last year us open novak was clearly the dominator but his nerves and lack of experience in gS finals was telling
his chances tomorw is much better

Huntress555
01-24-2008, 09:51 AM
I really believe he can.

He has to come out firing though and be in a good frame of mind to get the job done.

dragons112
01-24-2008, 09:54 AM
Roger let Djokovic beat him and then get close in the US Open final, he was making stupid errors but then held his own in those break points.

So basicaly it goes like this.

If we get the Roger who went to 5 with Janko, then yes, he was a very real chance of winning.

If we get the Roger who played against Nadal in Shangai, Djoko is years away from achieving that kind of game.

True

dragons112
01-24-2008, 09:55 AM
In the final where they met, roger was not one hundred percent we all know it. roger willl roll him

Baghdatis72
01-24-2008, 09:58 AM
It depends on Djokovic's performance really. If he plays a solid match without choking like the USO final last year then Federer is not going to win this.

Cat123
01-24-2008, 10:10 AM
Janko gave Federer hell! If he can do it, Nole certainly can.

Adje!!!! :devil:

trixtah
01-25-2008, 07:26 PM
Bumpity bump, it's great reading all the comments

leng jai
01-25-2008, 08:44 PM
Federer beat himself.