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WWW? Tomas Berdych vs Roger Federer

TomasandLucie
01-19-2008, 09:30 PM
Who do you guys think will win???

I just hope tomas puts up a good fight for roger

Bibberz
01-19-2008, 09:35 PM
Berdych isn't quite right in the head, so I never know what to expect from him. Hopefully he watched Roger's last match and realizes that confidence can go a long way. I hope he at least pushes Roger to four.

DwyaneWade
01-19-2008, 09:37 PM
Berdych certainly has enough game and enough confidence. The question is whether he can remain as insanely focused as Tipsarevic was that entire match last night. I doubt he can, so Federer in 4.

Albop
01-19-2008, 09:40 PM
federer 67 76 60 61

kobulingam
01-19-2008, 09:50 PM
Problem is, Birdman can not deal with the Fed BH Slice as well as Tipsy did in that match.

oz_boz
01-19-2008, 10:19 PM
If it goes to a 5th set, Fed won't pull through this time ;)

Fed in 3.

Kitty de Sade
01-19-2008, 10:22 PM
I'm not convinced that Berdych can control his nerves against Fed for the duration. Fed in 4- not a runaway though.

dragons112
01-19-2008, 10:22 PM
Problem is, Birdman can not deal with the Fed BH Slice as well as Tipsy did in that match.

Roger only hit one at a time which is why he had os many errors. Roger should have closed that match in straight sets

DwyaneWade
01-19-2008, 10:22 PM
Problem is, Birdman can not deal with the Fed BH Slice as well as Tipsy did in that match.
Good point. Tipsy was doing an amazing job of getting low for those slices and punishing them. Berdych could get lazy especially if it is windy

Ivanatis
01-19-2008, 10:38 PM
Roger will win in straight sets the way he usually does after struggling the match before.

stebs
01-19-2008, 10:41 PM
Federer in 3.

dragons112
01-19-2008, 10:48 PM
in this being said, i assumed janko tipseravic would have gone down in under an hour. Im not making any guesses from now on. Roger needs a coach for motivation hes lazy on court now

Bibberz
01-19-2008, 10:57 PM
Roger will win in straight sets the way he usually does after struggling the match before.

That's so true. He never performs "badly" in two consecutive matches...except for that anomaly last year.

shotgun
01-19-2008, 10:59 PM
Federer in 3. Scoreline should be something like 6-3 6-4 6-2.

DDrago2
01-20-2008, 01:33 AM
Now when he survived Janko Federer will easily win

l_mac
01-20-2008, 01:39 AM
Federer in 3 sets.

Bilbo
01-20-2008, 09:13 AM
Quickie for Roger

Federer in 3

sports freak
01-20-2008, 09:23 AM
In an interview with Wally Masur he mentioned Fed X as a LEGEND,his beaten up in the head already!!

ciprianned
01-20-2008, 09:41 AM
Fed , sure :)

TheBoiledEgg
01-20-2008, 10:20 AM
Roger to deal with PMS with no trouble

Birdy needs to get his head out of between Lucie's legs to do something quick.

Corey Feldman
01-20-2008, 10:39 AM
You better step it up if Berdych is giving you troubles, Fed

none of that why wont he rollover like the rest of them crap :rolleyes:

Bilbo
01-20-2008, 10:40 AM
You better step it up if Berdych is giving you troubles, Fed

none of that why wont he rollover like the rest of them crap :rolleyes:

this tool berdych is no threat to federer. don't worry.

Sean.J.S.
01-20-2008, 10:42 AM
Tomas 7-5 7-5 6-4 :yeah:

dijus
01-20-2008, 10:42 AM
Fed more than izi

Jimnik
01-20-2008, 10:44 AM
Judging by the number of aces we've had already, even by Tipsy in the last round, Berdych could keep this tight if he serves well. But I still expect Federer 7-6 6-4 6-2 or something like that.

Tennis-Engineer
01-20-2008, 11:51 AM
Federer in an easy match including a bagel !

Horatio Caine
01-20-2008, 11:55 AM
Does this really need a poll, either? :silly:

Tom Paulman
01-20-2008, 01:21 PM
I voted Federer to jinx him ;)

Allez
01-20-2008, 01:28 PM
Based on current form Berdych should win this. Rogi's lack of preparation for this Open nearly cost him in the 3rd round. He will pay with a tough loss to Berdych on Monday.

Adler
01-20-2008, 01:31 PM
Berdych hasn't been good this year. He defeated some journeymen and Monaco, who's basically a claycourter, lost to Guccione in Sydney, and suddenly he's supposed to beat Federer? Not a chance, unless Federer will have a really bad day

kronus12
01-20-2008, 01:38 PM
Based on current form Berdych should win this. Rogi's lack of preparation for this Open nearly cost him in the 3rd round. He will pay with a tough loss to Berdych on Monday.
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He had the same prepraration at wimbledon last year and still won.
Actually like Berdych but i have a funny feeling that he's going to be dismantle by fed in their next match.
Fed in 3 easy sets.

Art&Soul
01-20-2008, 01:42 PM
and suddenly he's supposed to beat Federer?
Yeah that's why he has only 10 votes in this poll :rolleyes: And if you talk about Alezz oh yeah seem this time he forgot his favorite smiley in his post :scared:

Bilbo
01-20-2008, 01:45 PM
Based on current form Berdych should win this. Rogi's lack of preparation for this Open nearly cost him in the 3rd round. He will pay with a tough loss to Berdych on Monday.

you still must think Berdych is the real deal, eh?

Eden
01-20-2008, 01:46 PM
Based on current form Berdych should win this. Rogi's lack of preparation for this Open nearly cost him in the 3rd round. He will pay with a tough loss to Berdych on Monday.

I don't think it was lack of preparation which made the match so tight yesterday. Rogers opponent played an excellent match and had a high rate of used breakpoints whilst Roger couldn't take a lot of breakchances himself.

shaggy
01-20-2008, 01:51 PM
berdych is tactically the worse player on tour. he has no chance to beat roger although he has weapons to do it.

Adler
01-20-2008, 01:55 PM
^ There' still Blake :)

HeretiC
01-20-2008, 01:58 PM
Fed in 3. He will start extremely strong and try to bully Bird right from the first point, and I suspect he might succeed in that. He needs a beatdown to stop the rumors among players that he is vulnerable to more players besides Nadal and Nalbandian.

the answer
01-20-2008, 02:53 PM
Based on current form Berdych should win this. Rogi's lack of preparation for this Open nearly cost him in the 3rd round. He will pay with a tough loss to Berdych on Monday.

:scared:

juninhOH
01-20-2008, 03:01 PM
Do you guys think Federer will be physically fit for this match, this soon? It has not been 48h since he played :S

Adler
01-20-2008, 03:12 PM
He was barely sweating during his last two matches, it's just beginning of the season, and he's been having fitness preparation before the tournament. I think he'll be OK. It's just that he hardly ever plays 5-setters and taht's the reason of peoples' concern ;)

Stensland
01-20-2008, 03:13 PM
roger in 3. the first two will probably be a little tight and the third's a meltdown.

7-6, 6-4, 6-1.

Bilbo
01-20-2008, 03:20 PM
Fed in 3. He will start extremely strong and try to bully Bird right from the first point, and I suspect he might succeed in that. He needs a beatdown to stop the rumors among players that he is vulnerable to more players besides Nadal and Nalbandian.

Berdych never was a threat to Federer unlike Nadal and Nalbandian

Allez
01-20-2008, 03:21 PM
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He had the same prepraration at wimbledon last year and still won.
Actually like Berdych but i have a funny feeling that he's going to be dismantle by fed in their next match.
Fed in 3 easy sets.

Not true. Rogi had just played the French Open weeks before he turned up for Wimbledon. Now clay isn't the ideal surface to prepare for playing on the grass, but at least he was still match fit going to his favourite surface and tournament. I actually wholeheartedly supported his decision to pull out of Halle. He was too exhausted to play there having played in all the clay Masters events leading to RG and getting to the RG final.

The lack of prep here is an entirely different issue. Not playing competitive tennis for almost 2 months is not something you can sweep under the carpet unfortunately. It seems as if he'll never play Doha again...relying on Kooyong to fine tune his game for the Open. Obviously that strategy has backfired and it matters not who you are, you can't simply turn up with ZERO preparation and expect to win 7 straight matches in one of the toughest Grandslams on the calendar. No way. I'm just being realistic here. It isn't happening this year and I think the Bird has the tools, if not the mental fortitude to take Rogi out in the 4th round. There's a vast difference...an ocean in fact, between Janko Tipsarevic and Tomas Berdych and you shall see this demonstrated tomorrow.:eek:

R.Federer
01-20-2008, 03:22 PM
Hopefully Federer will use the wakeup call he received. He can only play with fire a few times a tournament. He has had his neardeath experience, and I think he will come out ultra focussed.

PS. I don't think approx. 40 additional minutes of court time is going to have worn Fed out. I expect a 4 set win for Federer.

acionescu
01-20-2008, 03:25 PM
Fed in 3. He will start extremely strong and try to bully Bird right from the first point, and I suspect he might succeed in that. He needs a beatdown to stop the rumors among players that he is vulnerable to more players besides Nadal and Nalbandian.


My thoughts exactly! He usually does that after losing or having a hard time against an opponent: either beating down the unhappy next, either destroying the player who dared to pose him problems the first time they meet. Is the thing I dislike most about him but I suppose it is part of the game! :unsure:

Allez
01-20-2008, 03:30 PM
you still must think Berdych is the real deal, eh?

When Berdych finally vanquishes his mental demons he will be a huge force on the men's tour. Of course he is not the new Roger Federer or anything like that, but under the right conditions he can beat Roger and in fact has done so in the past. Don't forget that. We're not talking about some rookie who's never beaten Federer before here.

Stensland
01-20-2008, 03:38 PM
When Berdych finally vanquishes his mental demons he will be a huge force on the men's tour. Of course he is not the new Roger Federer or anything like that, but under the right conditions he can beat Roger and in fact has done so in the past. Don't forget that. We're not talking about some rookie who's never beaten Federer before here.

basically he's never beaten him. that weird fluke in athens doesn't count, berdych was a baby back then and didn't think while doing it. his mental problems came with the higher rankings, the higher expectations and the fact that he now goes "oh ohhhh, that's roger on the other side of the net". back in 04 he'd just go "who the eff is federer?"

l_mac
01-20-2008, 03:40 PM
When Berdych finally vanquishes his mental demons he will be a huge force on the men's tour. Of course he is not the new Roger Federer or anything like that, but under the right conditions he can beat Roger and in fact has done so in the past. Don't forget that. We're not talking about some rookie who's never beaten Federer before here.

Right. I remember that match like it was three-and-a-half years ago. :rolleyes:

Bilbo
01-20-2008, 03:45 PM
When Berdych finally vanquishes his mental demons he will be a huge force on the men's tour. Of course he is not the new Roger Federer or anything like that, but under the right conditions he can beat Roger and in fact has done so in the past. Don't forget that. We're not talking about some rookie who's never beaten Federer before here.

obviously you are a big fan of berdych

i will dedicate tomorrow's win by fed to you

Eden
01-20-2008, 03:51 PM
obviously you are a big fan of berdych


I think it's more the usual Allez fear of any of Roger's opponents ;)

Bilbo
01-20-2008, 03:59 PM
I think it's more the usual Allez fear of any of Roger's opponents ;)

as berdych is no threat to federer (and never will be) i don't see any reason to be feared

Allez
01-20-2008, 04:10 PM
obviously you are a big fan of berdych

i will dedicate tomorrow's win by fed to you

I would be ecstatic with such a dedication thank you ;)

tennizen
01-20-2008, 04:16 PM
^ There' still Blake :)

:lol: :yeah:

tennizen
01-20-2008, 04:19 PM
Berdych didn't make his rendevous at the USO but this meeting finally came about. Fed thrashed him in Wimbledon 2006 after which they haven't met as far as I remember. Fed once compared him to Safin and said that on his day he can beat anyone. But he hasnt done that at all in 2007. So I guess it will be Fed in straights. After that Tipsy scare Fed will be very wary and I think he will start the match very seriously

Edit: I just realized they played a Davis Cup match but I won't consider that here

Eden
01-20-2008, 04:24 PM
Berdych didn't make his rendevous at the USO but this meeting finally came about. Fed thrashed him in Wimbledon 2006 after which they haven't met as far as I remember.

Both played against each other at the DC encounter between Switzerland and the Czech Republic in September. Roger won 7:6 7:6 6:3 and Tomas said afterwards: "I played unbelievable, and if it was not Roger Federer on the other side of the net I would have won, 400 per cent."

Adler
01-20-2008, 04:33 PM
Roger won that DC encounter, I've seen some highlisghts from his DC matches and I had a feeling that Fed was not giving his 100% there. Once again : he should take it

Stensland
01-20-2008, 04:54 PM
...Tomas said afterwards: "I played unbelievable, and if it was not Roger Federer on the other side of the net I would have won, 400 per cent."

ok, so that should tell us that even if berdych is in full effect, he's probably not even gonna take a set off fed.

Chris Seahorse
01-20-2008, 08:28 PM
ok, so that should tell us that even if berdych is in full effect, he's probably not even gonna take a set off fed.

Exactly. :yeah:

Greenday
01-20-2008, 09:22 PM
Fed better get his shit together in this match.....I am getting mad at the way he is slicing the returns thruuuuuuuuuu out the match....it will be good if he can change tht up a bit.....He is playing percentage tennis nowadays, expecting the other guy to slowly go away.....he better start the match strongly.....am not really sure whats goin to happen in this match after his match with tipsy.....after he won the set 4 6-1, I was expecting fed to step it up and be more aggressive and pull off the 5th set quickly which never happenned, he kept on slicing those returns untill 8-8 40-0....

scoobs
01-20-2008, 09:24 PM
Federer would need to have a very bad day.

We're talking Ancic Wimbledon 2002 here.

But that doesn't seem quite as impossible as it once did.

Even so, I still expect this to be Goodnight Prague.

rosamunda
01-20-2008, 10:39 PM
I don't know what I think after that Tipsy match. On the one hand, it may have done Fed a power of good and got him into match shape, so that he comes out all guns blazing and ready to kick ar*e. On the other hand, he could be absolutely knackered and still feel ill at ease and defensive. Guess we'll find out soon enough.......

Corey Feldman
01-21-2008, 01:00 AM
obviously you are a big fan of berdych

i will dedicate tomorrow's win by fed to you:lol::lol::lol:

GSM Bilbo

Stensland
01-21-2008, 04:37 AM
seems like most guys have been right on this one.

Bilbo
01-21-2008, 07:48 AM
seems like most guys have been right on this one.

there are still a lot of people who think Berdych is the real deal but the number is dropping. took a few years to do so.