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Fed: Please, Henman, lose before I meet you at Wimby!

Tennis Fool
06-13-2004, 02:10 PM
FEDERER KEEN TO AVOID HENMAN
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Reigning champion Roger Federer has pinpointed Tim Henman as the player he would rather avoid should he reach the Wimbledon final.

The world number one is expected by many to march to the final of the tournament where he made his grand slam breakthrough but believes Henman has the armoury to prevent him from retaining his crown.

Federer said: "I would not fancy playing (Tim) Henman.

"He has the whole crowd behind him and is tough to play on grass. I wouldn't like that - but I'd already be pleased to be back in the final."

The Basle-born player was speaking after he closed in on his second consecutive Garry Weber Open title in Halle by racing to a 6-3 6-4 win over Jiri Novak in the semi-finals to extend his winning streak on grass to 16 games.

He now faces American Mardy Fish, the last player to take a set off him on the surface in the fourth round of last year's All England Championships.

He revealed his motivation is to maintain his position at number one and to do that he has to keep collecting titles.

"What else is left for me ranking-wise? I am the number one already so I can´t improve. I want to maintain it and that's why I have to keep winning titles," said Federer.

"This tournament is more than a tune-up for Wimbledon - it is very important to me and I´m happy I have the chance to win the fifth title of the season."

"Win or lose tomorrow, I would say it doesn't change much for Wimbledon because I have played so well in the last matches," he said. "I feel wonderful and have much more confidence than at the same time last year."

MissPovaFan
06-13-2004, 02:14 PM
hmmm Id be more wary of facing Andy Roddick than Henman at the moment :rolleyes:

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-13-2004, 02:17 PM
uuuuuhh, I dont think Rogi has reason to feel terribly intimidated by Andy, no matter what role he is on, lol,

I wonder if Rogi even has the ability to be really intimidated,,, naaah

Action Jackson
06-13-2004, 02:18 PM
hmmm Id be more wary of facing Andy Roddick than Henman at the moment :rolleyes:

Difference is that Federer owns Roddick in a big way, whereas Henman causes him more problems on faster surfaces.

lsy
06-13-2004, 02:22 PM
Difference is that Federer owns Roddick in a big way, whereas Henman causes him more problems on faster surfaces.

Exactly besides Roger and Andy is not going to meet till the final, of course Henman is the one he will be wary of first.

No surprise at all with that statement from Roger.

Tennis Fool
06-13-2004, 02:30 PM
Paul: Didn't you see the semis with Fed and Andy at Wimby last year? Fed made Andy look like an average player. He wasn't intimidated by the serve. He blocked it back and made Andy play that extra shot that he always seem to net or return to Fed who then would hit a winner.

RogiFan88
06-13-2004, 02:43 PM
Agreed, Geo and Isy... the fact that Rogi can return Pandy's big serves [and Flip's] makes the difference -- hardly any other player can beat Pandy, whether or not he serves big -- they are just intimidated by him, like they used to be v. AA.

Nope, Henman can still beat Rogi, esp on grass at home, exc that the pressure might be too much for him, as usual.

Tennis Fool
06-13-2004, 02:44 PM
RogiFan: You're a Roger fan and you want Henman to win :confused:

MissPovaFan
06-13-2004, 02:46 PM
Yep last year obviously Federer did own Roddick but he seems to be well on form now with the rest after the French Open certainly helping him. I think Federer would beat Roddick but not by the same margin as last year. I definitely feel Roddick has a better chance of beating Federer than Henman though.

Action Jackson
06-13-2004, 02:46 PM
RogiFan: You're a Roger fan and you want Henman to win :confused:

Son of Wertheim please read Rogi Fan' s post closely. It doesn't say that at all.

Action Jackson
06-13-2004, 02:50 PM
Yep last year obviously Federer did own Roddick but he seems to be well on form now with the rest after the French Open certainly helping him. I think Federer would beat Roddick but not by the same margin as last year. I definitely feel Roddick has a better chance of beating Federer than Henman though.

You are dreaming aren't you? Please tell me you are not being serious.

Ok, Federer leads Roddick 5-1 and everyone else here has given reason why Federer does not have problems playing Roddick and that 1 victory was fortunate, but earned.

Henman until this year had not lost to Federer, he has beaten him this year. If you just go on form from Queens, it doesn't mean that much really. Henman has the game that troubles Federer and he has beaten 6 times and that's a fair indication that Roger has trouble with and respect him.

Roger does not fear Roddick.

BaselineSmash
06-13-2004, 02:51 PM
I see no way in which Henman could beat a fully-fit Federer at Wimbledon, even if he gained a significant lead against him. SW19 will soon be like a second home to Roger, if it isn't already.

jtipson
06-13-2004, 02:52 PM
Yep last year obviously Federer did own Roddick but he seems to be well on form now with the rest after the French Open certainly helping him. I think Federer would beat Roddick but not by the same margin as last year. I definitely feel Roddick has a better chance of beating Federer than Henman though.

And Federer doesn't seem to be well on form? He just defended his title in Halle without dropping a set.

CarnivalCarnage
06-13-2004, 02:52 PM
I see no way in which Henman could beat a fully-fit Federer at Wimbledon, even if he gained a significant lead against him. SW19 will soon be like a second home to Roger, if it isn't already.

I wouldn't go that far yet.

Action Jackson
06-13-2004, 02:53 PM
I see no way in which Henman could beat a fully-fit Federer at Wimbledon, even if he gained a significant lead against him. SW19 will soon be like a second home to Roger, if it isn't already.

Don't get me wrong I don't want to see Henman win, but if he plays Federer of course he is more than capable of beating Roger and has done it many times, it doesn't mean he will on the biggest occasion though.

amethyst
06-13-2004, 02:54 PM
Surely Federer respects Henman, but he has no reason to fear any player at the moment.

CarnivalCarnage
06-13-2004, 02:57 PM
Surely Federer respects Henman, but he has no reason to fear any player at the moment.

Other than Lee Childs.

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-13-2004, 03:14 PM
This statement, I most agree with :)

Surely Federer respects Henman, but he has no reason to fear any player at the moment.

Shy
06-13-2004, 04:42 PM
Yep last year obviously Federer did own Roddick but he seems to be well on form now with the rest after the French Open certainly helping him. I think Federer would beat Roddick but not by the same margin as last year. I definitely feel Roddick has a better chance of beating Federer than Henman though.
Not only does Federer can return Andy serve so well which frustrate Andy,but Roger hold something mentally over Andy which it is not the case with Tim.

Corey Feldman
06-13-2004, 04:58 PM
tim is not as good a grass courter as alot of ppl think, he has a great record sure, but thats more to do with the crowd support, and easy draws, plus henman leads federer 6-2..but henmans 6 wins=5 indoors/1grass and federer's 2 wins=outdoors, so technically fedex leads in outdoor meetings :), but its of no relevance, i can see tim losing in r4/qf, and if he's lucky, he'll win wimby when he's 30.

MissPovaFan
06-13-2004, 05:21 PM
Yep I think we are looking at a Q-F appearance for Henman again this year but no further. :sad:

Corey Feldman
06-13-2004, 05:41 PM
Yep I think we are looking at a Q-F appearance for Henman again this year but no further. :sad:

and the incredible thing if he was to lose a qf this year, is that his last 9 years of wimbledon results would read QF-QF-SF-SF-4TH-SF-SF-QF-QF........... in 2005, you could bet he'd eather lose 1st round, or maybe a win ??????! doubt it! but nice effort regardless timothy!
i can see federer's 9 year wimbledon figures reading (starting in 2001) QF-1ST-WINNER-WINNER-WINNER-WINNER-WINNER-WINNER-WINNER :)

jtipson
06-13-2004, 05:42 PM
Yep I think we are looking at a Q-F appearance for Henman again this year but no further. :sad:

How can you make a judgement on that without the draw :confused: ?

MissPovaFan
06-13-2004, 05:51 PM
Just a hunch I have to be honest but yeah you are right its best to wait until the draw to make any proper judgements.

jtipson
06-13-2004, 05:53 PM
i can see federer's 9 year wimbledon figures reading (starting in 2001) QF-1ST-WINNER-WINNER-WINNER-WINNER-WINNER-WINNER-WINNER :)

I can see Borg hiring an assassin before that happens ;)

star
06-13-2004, 05:54 PM
Or me on behalf of Borg. :)

Deboogle!.
06-13-2004, 05:58 PM
I can see Borg hiring an assassin before that happens ;)

Or me on behalf of Borg. :)


LOL!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

tangerine_dream
06-13-2004, 06:34 PM
That's right Roger .... keep putting all the expectations and pressure on Tiny Tim. :haha:

Shy
06-13-2004, 06:36 PM
That's right Roger .... keep putting all the expectations and pressure on Tiny Tim. :haha:
Maybe it is his strategy.No pressure on him and a lots on Tim.

star
06-13-2004, 07:00 PM
Yes, Shy. That's exactly what Tangy was talking about.

Leo
06-13-2004, 07:25 PM
Load of crap. Federer doesn't fear anyone. I think he does this to try to avert media attention off of himself because he does prefer not to be in the spotlight as the favorite. He said something similar at the Aussie Open like, "If I were a betting man, I wouldn't bet any money on me to win." Oh, okay. :rolleyes:

Leo
06-13-2004, 07:28 PM
That's right Roger .... keep putting all the expectations and pressure on Tiny Tim. :haha:

Yes, it is a smart tactical play.

lsy
06-13-2004, 07:35 PM
When he said he's confident of winning against anybody, he's arrogant; now he's pointing out a very obvious player who'd always given him problem, he's playing strategic and full of craps :haha:

btw he didnt' say he fear Henman this what he said :

"Federer said: "I would not fancy playing (Tim) Henman."

looking at their past records, this is a surprising statement? :confused:

YoursTruly
06-13-2004, 07:37 PM
Like Roger said, he would prefer not to face Tim! Not Andy, because he knows it himself that he's dangerous but not THE threat to him on grass. Tim is the premier serve and volley player and facing him on grass is no vacation!

lsy
06-13-2004, 07:42 PM
Load of crap. Federer doesn't fear anyone. I think he does this to try to avert media attention off of himself because he does prefer not to be in the spotlight as the favorite. He said something similar at the Aussie Open like, "If I were a betting man, I wouldn't bet any money on me to win." Oh, okay. :rolleyes:

hahaha...really funny, I vividly remember how many people were writing off his chances in AO coz he went in without a coach, including himself wasn't sure how it would turn out to be.

So despite that, he should say "of course I'm gonna bet on myself, sure I'm gonna win it all in AO by myself, that's why i fired my coach"? And that wouldn't be crap to you?

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-13-2004, 07:44 PM
LOL,, this sounds clever! I was also thinking he was just saying that to indirectly send a message to Andy that if there is anyone he would be worried about, it's Henman. And not even sincerely meaning that--but just to intimidate Andy.

Roger's an interesting character, I wanna get inside his head, like Being john Malkovich

Load of crap. Federer doesn't fear anyone. I think he does this to try to avert media attention off of himself because he does prefer not to be in the spotlight as the favorite. He said something similar at the Aussie Open like, "If I were a betting man, I wouldn't bet any money on me to win." Oh, okay. :rolleyes:

Leo
06-13-2004, 07:47 PM
hahaha...really funny, I vividly remember how many people were writing off his chances in AO coz he went in without a coach, including himself wasn't sure how it would turn out to be.

I don't remember a single person writing off his chances because of that.

So despite that, he should say "of course I'm gonna bet on myself, sure I'm gonna win it all in AO by myself, that's why i fired my coach"? And that wouldn't be crap to you?

You missed my point. No, of course he shouldn't say that. But the comment he did make was a silly attempt to make it seem like he didn't have confidence in himself and his game, which obviously was not true.

Havok
06-13-2004, 07:47 PM
Henman's game troubles Federer on any surface, but playing him on grass would frustrate Federer the most. Nowhere did Federer say anything about Andy and he would love to face him. Heck nobody wan't to face Andy even if you own the guy, he's still tough to beat. But as the #1 player in the world, if Federer is still intimidated by some people, then that's just not a good sign from a champion that Federer is! I don't really think the top guys fear anyone, they all believe in themselves well enough to not get intimidated in tough situations.

LCeh
06-13-2004, 07:48 PM
I agree with Roger. Tim would be his biggest opponent, and it would be tough for him if he does play Tim. A good serve and volleyer like Tim puts so much pressure on you, it's never easy to beat them, and with the crowd, and his desire to win Wimbledon, it would be tough for Roger.

Who else has a serve and volley game...

Dent. :tape:

lsy
06-13-2004, 07:48 PM
Like Roger said, he would prefer not to face Tim! Not Andy, because he knows it himself that he's dangerous but not THE threat to him on grass. Tim is the premier serve and volley player and facing him on grass is no vacation!

Exactly. I'm a rogi fan, I for one will pray real hard for the next whole week not seeing Henman's name on his half. I thought the reason itself is obvious enough.

Havok
06-13-2004, 07:51 PM
Rusedski as well:tape::haha:

Shy
06-13-2004, 07:52 PM
. But as the #1 player in the world, if Federer is still intimidated by some people, then that's just not a good sign from a champion that Federer is! I don't really think the top guys fear anyone, they all believe in themselves well enough to not get intimidated in tough situations.
I don't think that he is intimidated by Tim,but I think that he doesn't want the spotlight on him.I don't think that he wants the british crowd against him by saying I am going to beat the crap out of Tim.

lsy
06-13-2004, 07:55 PM
I don't remember a single person writing off his chances because of that.

Just try search back some threads here in MTF even I think you can find plenty. Lots of media was having plenty of doubts about his decision of going into the tournament without a coach too.


You missed my point. No, of course he shouldn't say that. But the comment he did make was a silly attempt to make it seem like he didn't have confidence in himself and his game, which obviously was not true.

You had never read his interview when he's confident, he said out real loud and clear, even before the tournament starts? If you read his interview in Halle, he said it clearly that he wants to win both Halle and Wimby this year as opposed to his interview going into RG when he said he will take it match by match.

He wasn't sure what to think of his chances in AO, why would he bet on himself on winning it all? What's so silly about that? Unless people were asking him about his chance of winning the 1st rd, and he said that then that's really silly.

Skyward
06-13-2004, 07:57 PM
Why Roger should be worried about Andy at the moment? It's a long way to go before they both reach the final.

lsy
06-13-2004, 08:03 PM
What a joke this thread turns out to be, obviously credits go to TF for giving anothe catchy title :haha:

Rogi didn't say he fears nor did he say he was intimidated by Henman, he merely said he would not fancy playing Henman. How is that an invalid statement, I'm still very puzzled.

Has everybody forgotten about that 6-2 or 7-2 records Henman has against Rogi? Or that Henman was one of the only 4 who beat him this year? Or that the whole crowd will be going wild for Henman if Rogi plays against him? Who would fancy that if has a choice???

Teemuh
06-13-2004, 08:06 PM
I don't think that he is intimidated by Tim,but I think that he doesn't want the spotlight on him.I don't think that he wants the british crowd against him by saying I am going to beat the crap out of Tim.

Hee. Yeah, you gotta be careful what you say about people's national icons. Beating the crap out of Tim, just not good form ol' chap.

RogiFan88
06-13-2004, 08:17 PM
Son of Wertheim please read Rogi Fan' s post closely. It doesn't say that at all.

Thanks, George ;)

It's not that I want Tim to win, altho if he did, I w not be upset and if anyone can beat Rogi, it's Tim -- as Geo said, he has the game to upset Rogi, which is true.

Actually it w be interesting to see a Rogi/Tim Wimby final and see what happens...

Since Tim has never made a slam final, this w be the most pressure he's ever endured and who knows how he w deal w it... every yr it's the same hype and pressure on him... he could end up like Guille at RG or finally overcome the odds and just win it, putting himself and all of UK out of their misery! :p

I w love for Rogi to defend Wimby but it won't be easy, never is -- not many have won b-t-b slams lately, exc Guga and AA. Increasingly difficult to do so.

GOtta watch out for Pandy and his bombing serves... :p

As for Rogi's attitude, he doesn't have the confidence [still even as a champ] nor the arrogance that Pete had... now HE truly believed he could win and beat everyone...

star
06-13-2004, 09:03 PM
I had the feeling that Federer was oozing confidence right now.

star
06-13-2004, 09:06 PM
LOL,, this sounds clever! I was also thinking he was just saying that to indirectly send a message to Andy that if there is anyone he would be worried about, it's Henman. And not even sincerely meaning that--but just to intimidate Andy.

Roger's an interesting character, I wanna get inside his head, like Being john Malkovich

:)

Tennis Fool
06-13-2004, 09:38 PM
I can see Borg hiring an assassin before that happens ;)

Don't you mean Sampras? :lol:

jtipson
06-13-2004, 09:54 PM
Don't you mean Sampras? :lol:

Bjorn Borg's very protective of his 5 consecutive Wimbledons. Apparently, when Federer beat Sampras in 2001, he called Peter Lundgren to pass on his thanks. Would be funny if.....but that's far too far ahead.

LCeh
06-13-2004, 10:01 PM
Bjorn Borg's very protective of his 5 consecutive Wimbledons. Apparently, when Federer beat Sampras in 2001, he called Peter Lundgren to pass on his thanks.

:haha: :haha:

"Oh no, Roger is gonna win 4 more consecutive Wimbledons!" :scared:

Like that's possible... :rolleyes: :p

jtipson
06-13-2004, 10:09 PM
:haha: :haha:

"Oh no, Roger is gonna win 4 more consecutive Wimbledons!" :scared:

Like that's possible... :rolleyes: :p


Well Escude was predicting more than that I think ;)
I'd be very impressed if he manages to get two! Nobody seems to be able to defend GS titles nowadays.

LCeh
06-13-2004, 10:20 PM
Well Escude was predicting more than that I think ;)

Nono, that comment wasn't directed to you nor Escude... but it would be ridiculous if Borg really thinks that someone can break that 5 consecutive Wimbledon record. :)

Corey Feldman
06-13-2004, 11:11 PM
well lets be honest, federer has more a natural gift and feel for tennis (and killer instinct) than most of the brain dead all-power players around at the moment, he could win wimbledon as much as he desires.............and i agree with what alot of ppl have been saying....all this praise and stuff federer is giving henman (i.e the, "i wouldnt wanna play henman" stuff") rogi knows exactly what he's doing.....heaping all the pressure on henman's shoulders (if theyre could be anymore than usual) this guy federer is one ice cool customer, no1 will touch him at wimbledon this year , well other than when they shake his hand at the net after a swift 3 set humping :)

Pea
06-13-2004, 11:45 PM
Worry for rodduck.:haha:

LCeh
06-13-2004, 11:50 PM
Andy seems to be playing very solid tennis as well. Definitely would be a huge threat to Federer. Even though everything seems to be pointing at Federer, but we never know. A grand slam is still too tough for one person to surely win.

heya
06-14-2004, 02:55 AM
My life has no meaning unless I obsess over a powerful, brainless tennis player. I resent the brawn he possesses!
Why can't he be perfect like God?
God makes my life worth living. ;) :yawn:

Ruski
06-14-2004, 06:18 AM
That's true!!!
On grass, Roger and Tim both have the same amount of chance to win!!!!

jtipson
06-14-2004, 06:21 AM
My life has no meaning unless I obsess over a powerful, brainless tennis player. I resent the brawn he possesses!
Why can't he be perfect like God?
God makes my life worth living. ;) :yawn:

Do you mind with this crap, heya? Please stop referring to Roger as God - it's blasphemous.

Thanks.

Action Jackson
06-14-2004, 06:27 AM
Do you mind with this crap, heya? Please stop referring to Roger as God - it's blasphemous.

Thanks.

Heya, is just a moron jtip, and this is common stuff.

jtipson
06-14-2004, 06:35 AM
Heya, is just a moron jtip, and this is common stuff.

I know, I know George, but seeing that at 6am on a Monday doesn't help my mood much ;)

Corey Feldman
06-14-2004, 01:19 PM
I know, I know George, but seeing that at 6am on a Monday doesn't help my mood much ;)
what are you even doing up at 6am? ;)

BaselineSmash
06-14-2004, 01:31 PM
Do you mind with this crap, heya? Please stop referring to Roger as God - it's blasphemous.

Thanks.

Roger Federer is Tennis' world number one. At present he is as dominant as Sampras was in his day, only the man from Switzerland is a lot more entertaining to watch. Is some other guy laying claims to the title of God? Who is this upstart, then?

sigmagirl91
06-14-2004, 02:32 PM
My life has no meaning unless I obsess over a powerful, brainless tennis player. I resent the brawn he possesses!
Why can't he be perfect like God?
God makes my life worth living. ;) :yawn:

ohhhhh, it's too early for me to decipher this post. Someone, please decipher this post.
Whom are you talking about? WHAT are you talking about?

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-14-2004, 02:36 PM
Wow, Sigma, your avatar!! You and Rosie have the best avatars!! Where is that from?

star
06-14-2004, 03:21 PM
Roger Federer is Tennis' world number one. At present he is as dominant as Sampras was in his day, only the man from Switzerland is a lot more entertaining to watch. Is some other guy laying claims to the title of God? Who is this upstart, then?

:lol:

Tennis Fool
06-29-2004, 12:06 AM
:queue the theme to Jaws:

undomiele
06-29-2004, 04:09 AM
Go Henman!!! Go Grosjean!! :yeah: :yeah:

Im excited about all these exciting possibilities. Im positive Henman could give Feds a run for his title. The fact that Feds still has to go through Hewitt and possibly Grosjean and then maybe Henman with a pretty partisan crowd could rattle him. I don't consider Federer invincible. These other guys have been playing really well (well Henman needs to play better but for a couple of sets against Grosjean he showed some magic! ) and this tournament is looking like some real fun.

Yay!

Mimi
06-29-2004, 07:26 AM
:haha: :haha: , i don't like too much henman but i think may be he can think coz he used to beat Roddick and Roger :confused:

LCeh
06-30-2004, 03:29 PM
Well, I guess Fed got his wish...

Tennis Fool
06-30-2004, 03:41 PM
:o

And Sjeng is giving Roddick all that he can handle...

Even if Roddick pulls this one out, will he have enough to take on the Fed?

jtipson
06-30-2004, 03:42 PM
Big shame. I would have loved a Federer - Henman final.

The possibility of Federer - Ancic is scary though. At least there's long way to go still before that!