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Guillermo Coria dismiss coach Blengino

-wokkel-
06-12-2004, 09:32 PM
Guillermo... :eek:

akin
06-12-2004, 09:53 PM
Guillermo... :eek:

:eek: where did you hear that?

-wokkel-
06-12-2004, 09:54 PM
On the Dutch Ceefax...

star
06-12-2004, 10:00 PM
:eek:

Ma. Estefania
06-12-2004, 10:13 PM
I don't know why is it a big surprise....

I know that they didn't last that much, but nowadays is becoming something normal to don't last that much with a determined coach....

jazz_girl
06-12-2004, 10:47 PM
According to Blengino they had an agreement till RG and they will see what to do after it. He had a meeting with Coria and he announced it that he didn't want to go on with him. Even though he knew about this Blengino said he was suprised by his decision but still wished him the best...
It was in an interview from Clarin this morning.

LCeh
06-12-2004, 10:52 PM
Thanks a lot for the info jazz_girl. I am quite surprised. But there has to be a lot more than we know, so who knows, maybe it was the right move...

jazz_girl
06-12-2004, 11:03 PM
He's also in talks with Gil Reyes to be his PT, but I think he still needs a coach...

star
06-12-2004, 11:56 PM
ummmmmmm Don't like the Reyes connection.

But, good luck to Guille always.

Rosa Luxembourg
06-13-2004, 04:15 AM
would Reyes move to Argentina?

tennischick
06-13-2004, 04:24 AM
if this is true, all i can think is that Coria based his game on Agassi's so i suspect that that may be where the Reyes idea came from. speaking of which, did Andre retire :confused:

also i checked Clarin and found no report of this which should be HUGE news. here's the website so y'all can check for yourselves...

http://www.clarin.com/diario/2004/06/12/index_diario.html

YoursTruly
06-13-2004, 04:39 AM
Lots of drama in the Coria camp now and I think it started growing during the French Open final!

Havok
06-13-2004, 04:41 AM
best of luck to Coria :banana:

akin
06-13-2004, 06:12 AM
Tchick, here is the spanish interview - if you or anybody can translate it would be great - my spanish is really bad. Thank You :hug:

Fabián, se habló mucho en estos días acerca de tu continuidad como coach de Guillermo Coria. Y... ¿seguís o no?

—No, ya no voy a estar con Guillermo. Desde que asumí se acordó que el vínculo era hasta Roland Garros y, bueno... Eso estaba claro y yo lo respeto.

—Ocurre que, a la luz de los resultados, se podía especular con la renovación del vínculo.

—Mirá, más allá de que estaba claro que el plazo era hasta Roland Garros, la decisión de Guillermo me sorprendió. Pensé que podíamos seguir adelante, porque el trabajo que hice me pareció bueno y se obtuvieron resultados positivos. Sin embargo, hubo una reunión y se me comunicó que ya no iba a ser el entrenador de Coria. Me tomó por sorpresa.

Fabián Blengino, voz firme y palabras medidas, está tranquilo y aleja cualquier posibilidad de polémica. Pero, claro, aunque no lo admita abiertamente se percibe (y se entiende) un cierto tono de decepción. El entrenador de 38 años, que supo trabajar con Franco Squillari y Agustín Calleri, entre otros, se enteró de que Guillermo Coria no lo tiene más en sus planes. Y esto a pesar de que Willy obtuvo tremendos resultados al lado de Blengino. Ambos se conocen desde que Willy tenía 15 años —Fabián lo entrenó durante un tiempo y le auguró futuro de top ten— y en febrero comenzaron su vínculo oficial. Fue luego de que el Nø 3 del mundo se separara de Alberto Mancini. "Estaremos un tiempo a prueba y si está todo bien y los resultados se dan, la idea es seguir hasta Roland Garros", decía Blengino en ese entonces.

Con Fabián al lado, Coria fue campeón en el ATP de Buenos Aires —asumió durante el torneo— y el Masters Series de Montecarlo; también alcanzó las finales en Miami (sobre cemento) y Hamburgo (otros dos Masters Series) y estuvo a un solo punto de levantar el trofeo de Roland Garros. Nada mal, ¿no?

—¿Qué motivos te dio Guillermo acerca de la decisión?

—Nada raro, me aclaró que no había pasado nada, que solamente quería hacer un cambio. Mirá, tampoco quiero seguir hablando mucho del tema, porque la determinación está tomada. Yo me siento tranquilo porque hice todo lo que tenía que hacer y me voy contento. Para mí fue un placer haber trabajado con Guillermo.

—Me imagino que te habías ilusionado con la chance de ir a Wimbledon, sobre todo porque Coria no tiene puntos que defender (perdió en primera ronda en el 2003) y representaba una buena chance de seguir sumando para el ranking.

—Pienso lo mismo. Estoy seguro de que Guillermo puede hacer algo importante en Wimbledon, es una linda oportunidad. Más allá de que no es su superficie preferida, con un buen cuadro y evitando a algunos especialistas, tiene todas las chances de avanzar. El está en condiciones de adaptarse sin problemas al césped, algo que no todos consiguen.

—¿Estás dolido?

—No, no... Sorprendido, nada más, pero igualmente contento por todo lo que se pudo hacer en este tiempo de trabajo.

—¿Creés que Coria puede llegar a ser Nø 1 del mundo?

—Seguro. Tiene todo el potencial para subir a lo máximo.

akin
06-13-2004, 06:23 AM
The idea, I think, is to have Reyes as part of the team. I am not sure who the tennis coach will be. I heard that Markus - who is Chela's coach - could be his coach.

This is from tennisreporters.net:
Has (Coria) plans to work with Agassi trainer Gil Reyes
One person that Coria singled out for attention in Spanish was Gil Reyes, the well-known trainer of Andre Agassi. Coria has been counseling with Reyes for a few months and made mention that he plans to work with Reyes once Agassi retires.

"I would like to thank Gil, because his advice was very important," Coria said. "I hope next time I win the title and not disappoint those who are behind me."

Maryse
06-13-2004, 08:50 AM
Hope for his wife that he's gonna change only his coach...

:worship: VAMOS CORIA

akin
06-13-2004, 10:04 AM
Here an article in english found on the net:

Current world number three Guillermo Coria has dropped his coach
Fabian Blengino, because he "wants a change".

Although the Argentinian has enjoyed superb results over the last
few months, Coria has decided not to extend Blengino's contract,
which finished after Roland Garros in France.

"He told me that nothing had happened. He just wants a change,"
Blengino said.

"Since the first moment I knew we had an agreement until Roland
Garros, but this decision surprised me.

"I thought we could continue together, because the job I did I
thought was good, and we had positive results."

Under the guidance of Blengino, Coria won the ATP tournament in
Buenos Aires and the Monte-Carlo Masters Series, and he reached the
final in the Miami and Hamburg Masters Series as well as at the
French Open.

Blengino, 38, had replaced Alberto Mancini at the start of the
season, and Coria is yet to announce who will take his place.

MissPovaFan
06-13-2004, 01:02 PM
Noooo Coria's coach is a legend he cant sack him :sad: Guille, Blengino, and Carla come as a package for me :D

dubis016
06-13-2004, 01:08 PM
Best of luck, still Coria!

Action Jackson
06-13-2004, 01:14 PM
I wonder if De La Pena is looking for someone else to coach?

fco253
06-13-2004, 01:18 PM
I hope not.

I hate him but anyway GWH, remember the final ticket episode in Miami. Coria doesn't like him either, gladly.

Action Jackson
06-13-2004, 01:21 PM
fco, well good to see you got the joke.

Coria has got rid of 3 very good coaches already, so this doesn't look too good, he will be like Malisse soon except Coria can win titles.

jazz_girl
06-13-2004, 01:32 PM
On tv they're talking about Gaby Markus...

Action Jackson
06-13-2004, 01:40 PM
On tv they're talking about Gaby Markus...

Gaby will give up Massu for Coria. Coria is going for the whole set of Argentine players in the 80s and early 90s Davin, Mancini, now Markus, all he needs is Jaite and Perez Roldan.

jazz_girl
06-13-2004, 01:58 PM
Markus left Massu already, I think it was right after RG...

Action Jackson
06-13-2004, 02:01 PM
Markus left Massu already, I think it was right after RG...

Well Gaby Markus will be coaching Coria then. It will be interesting the dance of the Argentine coaches continues the next time Nalle and Coria meet with Gaby as coach of Coria.

jazz_girl
06-13-2004, 02:04 PM
And David has Coria's ex Physical trainer...

Action Jackson
06-13-2004, 02:06 PM
And David has Coria's ex Physical trainer...

Gaudio has Coria's ex-coach.

jazz_girl
06-13-2004, 02:28 PM
Just heard on tv that Massu signed with "Pato" Rodriguez to be his coach this year, they'll debut in Wimbledon.

amethyst
06-13-2004, 02:32 PM
:confused: I just hope these people manage to sort themselves out correctly in the locker room ;)

tennischick
06-13-2004, 02:47 PM
thanks for the interview Akin.

basically the coach is being VERY diplomatic. sez that he is not hurt by Willy's decision and wishes him all the best, thinks he can be #1 etc etc. but the writer notes that altho' his words are firm and measured, there is a "tone of deception" in his voice.

methinks Coria is suffering from an unfortunate attack of arrogance. this is too bad. the talent is there -- no doubt about it. but his personality is beginning to suck.

star
06-13-2004, 02:57 PM
Noooo Coria's coach is a legend he cant sack him :sad: Guille, Blengino, and Carla come as a package for me :D

awwwwww :hug:

Howlman
06-13-2004, 03:06 PM
There is MORE to this than meets the eye!!
There have been a lot of rumors since that horrible match at the FO....
HMMMmmmmmm!

Howlman
06-13-2004, 03:08 PM
Coria's personality is beginning to sukk...
WRONG it has sukked for a long time NOW!!!

*Ljubica*
06-13-2004, 03:22 PM
Coria's personality is beginning to sukk...
WRONG it has sukked for a long time NOW!!!

For once I agree with you Howlman :devil: Beneath that "sweet" angelic exterior lies ............... :eek: Perhaps he does need Horacio de la Pena to teach him a good lesson in the Locker Room again!

star
06-13-2004, 03:32 PM
:rolleyes:

tennischick
06-13-2004, 03:43 PM
For once I agree with you Howlman :devil: Beneath that "sweet" angelic exterior lies ............... :eek: Perhaps he does need Horacio de la Pena to teach him a good lesson in the Locker Room again!
ja ja ja...i had forgottten all about that incident. :D

OK he pissed me off too but part of me feels like we need to give Coria a break. he's young and the expectation of success must have been weighing heavily on him. he's not handling his disappointment well i admit but i hope he turns all this around soon. this is where the right wife can be such a crititical factor in helping him work thru this difficult period of his life.

Experimentee
06-13-2004, 04:36 PM
I hate it when players blame everything but themselves for their losses...their coaches, their racquets, etc. :rolleyes:
Sounds like its the case here, after his disappointing loss.

Experimentee
06-13-2004, 04:43 PM
For once I agree with you Howlman :devil: Beneath that "sweet" angelic exterior lies ............... :eek: Perhaps he does need Horacio de la Pena to teach him a good lesson in the Locker Room again!

What happened with De La Pena? :eek:
I really like that guy, now I like him more! :p

Fostin
06-13-2004, 05:29 PM
Yes that`s how things work... Its suprising but It works like that... btw I think Guille is still trying to find the rite trainer... It seems he has been workin very well with him but he needs a change... He is looking forward to adpat even better to other surfaces... and I think Gil is an awesome choice! ;)

Fostin
06-13-2004, 05:31 PM
I hate it when players blame everything but themselves for their losses...their coaches, their racquets, etc. :rolleyes:
Sounds like its the case here, after his disappointing loss.

He is down to earth... Guille is not stupid.. ;)

*Ljubica*
06-13-2004, 05:56 PM
What happened with De La Pena? :eek:
I really like that guy, now I like him more! :p

Well it's old news now, but they came to blows in the Locker Room a year or so ago :devil: Can't remember what started it now - but knowing both of them I could hazard a guess WHO started it :devil: Anyway - dear, sweet Agustin Calleri had to wade in and separate them - and ended up with a brusied big toe for his trouble - bless him :) I've probably got a link to some of the original stories somewhere - I could try and find them for you but they would be in the original Spanish, and it wouldn't be tonight because I'm just off to a "Euro 2004" party to watch England v France!

Experimentee
06-13-2004, 06:03 PM
Well it's old news now, but they came to blows in the Locker Room a year or so ago :devil: Can't remember what started it now - but knowing both of them I could hazard a guess WHO started it :devil: Anyway - dear, sweet Agustin Calleri had to wade in and separate them - and ended up with a brusied big toe for his trouble - bless him :) I've probably got a link to some of the original stories somewhere - I could try and find them for you but they would be in the original Spanish, and it wouldn't be tonight because I'm just off to a "Euro 2004" party to watch England v France!

OK thanks. No need to go dig up articles. I vaguely remember hearing about Coria in fights on sevaeral occasions, but dont remember much. :)

Chloe le Bopper
06-13-2004, 07:19 PM
I hate it when players blame everything but themselves for their losses...their coaches, their racquets, etc. :rolleyes:
Sounds like its the case here, after his disappointing loss.
Coria took much of the blame upon himself, and you would know that if you read his postmatch interview.

The Argentine coaching carousel is very amusing.

willie
06-13-2004, 11:44 PM
here they are talking that coria is going to live out of argentina and his new coach it will be the one of agassi, rey or reyes could be??? :eek:

star
06-14-2004, 12:58 AM
I hate it when players blame everything but themselves for their losses...their coaches, their racquets, etc. :rolleyes:
Sounds like its the case here, after his disappointing loss.

I don't know if you read Coria's press conference after his loss at Roland Garros. He placed the blame squarely on himself and his nerves.

I think Guille is looking for something he thinks is missing in his preperation. He's taking the responsibility to provide that for himself by assembling the team he wants. He has said all along that his coaching arrangement was temporary.
We will never know if he might have done the same thing had he won Roland Garros. His arrangement was only through Roland Garros.

Lee
06-14-2004, 01:33 AM
:confused: I just hope these people manage to sort themselves out correctly in the locker room ;)

:haha:

Lee
06-14-2004, 01:35 AM
he's not handling his disappointment well i admit but i hope he turns all this around soon. this is where the right wife can be such a crititical factor in helping him work thru this difficult period of his life.


Hmm! I don't know what you can expect from a teenager just finishing high school. :p

xOxTanyaxOx
06-14-2004, 01:36 AM
im with ya star!:)

star
06-14-2004, 02:11 AM
:kiss:

tennischick
06-14-2004, 02:14 AM
Hmm! I don't know what you can expect from a teenager just finishing high school. :p
you're absolutely correct, his age may indeed be a factor in why he is handling all of this so poorly. but despite his young age, he is married and i hope that his wife can influence his thinking in positive ways.

even tho' Coria took responsibilily for the RG loss in his post-match interview, his subsequent behavior suggests that he is blaming his coach. i think that that is too bad. what he needs to do now is solidify his game, not change it. the fact that he kinda ran out of steam against Gaudio means only that he needs to improve his fitness level. that is not a strategic problem. strategically he has the gamme to beat Gaudio. he didn't bec Gaudio played a brilliant defense game and allowed Coria to do the bulk of the atttacking which sapped his energy. the solution IMHO is not a coaching change but an improvement in his strength-training and fitness regime. IMHO.

Chloe le Bopper
06-14-2004, 02:32 AM
I don't think that dumping your coach means that you are necessarily blaming the coach. I just view it as a change. Something didn't quite work out as you expected, so you try something new. I don't interpret that as placing blame on anybody. Just my opinion, of course.

xOxTanyaxOx
06-14-2004, 02:37 AM
i dont think coria ran out of steam...cuz then he wouldn have been able to come back like he did in the fifth set:) and rebeccas probably right..cuz apparently he and his coach are stil like "cool" if he was blaming his coach they wouldn be "cool" :)...i dont know if that makes sense. hehe

tennischick
06-14-2004, 03:58 AM
I don't think that dumping your coach means that you are necessarily blaming the coach. I just view it as a change. Something didn't quite work out as you expected, so you try something new. I don't interpret that as placing blame on anybody. Just my opinion, of course.
and for me, dumping your coach after you lose a critical match suggests that you may be holding him responsible for the loss. but like you say (and i agree) we are only trading opinions.

tennischick
06-14-2004, 04:02 AM
i dont think coria ran out of steam...cuz then he wouldn have been able to come back like he did in the fifth set:) and rebeccas probably right..cuz apparently he and his coach are stil like "cool" if he was blaming his coach they wouldn be "cool" :)...i dont know if that makes sense. hehe
i meant that he ran out of steam in the last game. the one in which he was serving to remain in the match but Gaudio broke him and won. and truth be told, he almost did so at love. Coria didn't even chase down match point -- he seemed as if he lacked the physical resources to do so.

which is not to detract from the fact that Gaudio changed from from defence mode and seriously increased his attacking level in the last two games.

Action Jackson
06-14-2004, 04:03 AM
The agreement was only to the French Open, and Coria decides not to renew the agreement. The thing is that he should never have got rid of Alberto Mancini in the first place.

Well fitness is part of the game, and I think Coria is intelligent enough to know that he needs to bulk up and improve his fitness, but not to the point where he loses his speed. Of course he needs to take responsiblity for the loss at RG, it was no one elses fault, but his own. Whether a coaching change is the right thing, only time will tell.

Jazzy
06-14-2004, 04:14 AM
i got to admit, you are right there GW, this being from a Coria fan's opinion. the reason why Coria got rid of Mancini still puzzles me!

any way, any one know who his new coach is going to be!!!

Action Jackson
06-14-2004, 04:18 AM
i got to admit, you are right there GW, this being from a Coria fan's opinion. the reason why Coria got rid of Mancini still puzzles me!

any way, any one know who his new coach is going to be!!!

From what I heard it was a money issue and maybe Coria getting married didn't help either. Considering they said Alberto wanted to spend more time with his family, even though he is coaching Lapentti now.

The rumour mill says Gaby Markus the former coach of Massu and Nalbandian.

Chloe le Bopper
06-14-2004, 04:57 AM
and for me, dumping your coach after you lose a critical match suggests that you may be holding him responsible for the loss. but like you say (and i agree) we are only trading opinions.
Of course. I can see how one might see it that way, even if I don't choose to myself ;)

Lee
06-14-2004, 05:09 AM
you're absolutely correct, his age may indeed be a factor in why he is handling all of this so poorly. but despite his young age, he is married and i hope that his wife can influence his thinking in positive ways.



My post was referring to Mrs. Coria.

tennischick
06-14-2004, 11:28 AM
they're both kids actually.

Dirk
06-14-2004, 12:08 PM
Gil won't do shit for Coria till Coria takes a blender along with him on tour to blend veggies and fruits so he can take a drink with vitamins in it to his matches. If Coria doesn't find some alternative to this no vitamin taking rule he put on himself then he is fucked and will only have a short career which would be a huge waste.

*Ljubica*
06-14-2004, 12:26 PM
From what I heard it was a money issue and maybe Coria getting married didn't help either. Considering they said Alberto wanted to spend more time with his family, even though he is coaching Lapentti now.

The rumour mill says Gaby Markus the former coach of Massu and Nalbandian.

I always thought it was common knowledge that Mancini and Coria split up because Mancini wasn't too happy with the marriage - he thought it would distract Coria and ruin his ambition and focus. As for Gaby Markus - I have heard that one too but I was told yesterday that it definately is NOT true - still things can change I guess.