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Hewitt Vs Roddick Queens Semis, Oh yeah

henree
06-11-2004, 04:08 PM
THis should be a lot of fun. Its been a long time since these two have have played. I don't think Andy has ever beaten Hewitt. So I think either Andy wins in 2 closes sets, or Hewitt wins in 3...
Any predictions...

WyveN
06-11-2004, 04:10 PM
judging by the way they played today, could be a bit of a mismatch

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-11-2004, 04:13 PM
omigod, i hate this match-up as a semifinal. I wish this was the finals! Best wishes to both!!!!! But slightly more, I will definitely be pulling for Andy

oh,and I think and hope Andy wins in 2 :D

tangerine_dream
06-11-2004, 04:14 PM
"oh yeah" is right, henree. Some are saying that Andy win easily but I don't see that. I think Lleyton has the psychological edge over Andy even though Andy's a different player now (3-0 Lleyton owns him). And Andy can serve a record 160 mph if he wants, but Lleyton will return it. He'll also run everything down. :eek:

This match is gonna be great. :banana:

Deboogle!.
06-11-2004, 04:15 PM
tangy don't forget it's grass. the ability to run everything down isn't as much of an asset. As for psychological edge, three years is a loooooooooong time. Have they both improved the same amount since 2001? :shrug:

Hopefully it'll be a high-quality match :)

FanOfHewitt
06-11-2004, 04:18 PM
The game will be won and lost on Roddick's serve. If he has a great serving day, then he will win. If he doesn't, then Hewitt has a chance. I think Andy should be favourite to win.

Hewitt had a hell of a hard time trying to return Martin Verkerk's serve for more that two sets recently when they played at the French Open, and Verkerk blasted him off the court in those sets. Seeing that Andy has got better groundstrokes that Martin, it could turn out to be quite an easy day for Andy - if he can serve as good or better than Martin did that day.

I'm tipping that Andy will wipe the floor with Lleyton in the first set, taking it 6-1, and be 5-3 up in the second set before the pressure gets to him a bit, his serve starts to break down, Hewitt fires up and ends up winning the match 1-6, 7-6, 7-5.

WyveN
06-11-2004, 04:19 PM
hewitt seems to have lost some speed, Coria seems much faster. He was terrible against andreev today (unforced error galore) and will need to improve by a lot to have a chance.
Having said that I am not sure Roddick's return of serve is good enough to really thrash him so probably something like 6-4 6-4 to Roddick

MissPovaFan
06-11-2004, 04:19 PM
This should be interesting and a lot depends on Roddick's serve like you said and also whether Hewitt can get in quality returns. I do hope Hewitt can nick a win but I have a feeling Roddick will successfully defend his title this year.

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-11-2004, 04:22 PM
I am sure this is the one day "Potato Haters" will be pulling for the "Potato"... atleast, either Duck or Potato will be in the final, that's sweeeeeet

YulBrynnerWasBald
06-11-2004, 04:25 PM
It's grass nothing unusual about either making a final on grass, if it was on clay then it might irritate more people.

If Roddick serves mid 60s he should win the match. Hewitt will be there, but this really is in Roddick's hands.

tangerine_dream
06-11-2004, 04:26 PM
tangy don't forget it's grass. the ability to run everything down isn't as much of an asset. As for psychological edge, three years is a loooooooooong time. Have they both improved the same amount since 2001? :shrug:

Safin and Haas were playing a different Andy this year and they still beat him. Why would it be any different for Hewitt?

I'm wicked excited about this match-up but I feel ill too .... http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/guus/drunk.gif

WyveN
06-11-2004, 04:32 PM
Safin and Haas were playing a different Andy this year and they still beat him. Why would it be any different for Hewitt?


Haas is the better player on clay, always has been. Safin was at his best after the first set in AO, I don't think anyone can beat Safin's best.

Hewitt hasnt beaten anyone in the top 30 for 4 months, he looked awful against Andreev, Roddick looked awesome against Paradorn. It would be a huge upset if Hewitt won but if he does it then well done to him

Deboogle!.
06-11-2004, 04:32 PM
Safin and Haas were playing a different Andy this year and they still beat him. Why would it be any different for Hewitt?

I'm wicked excited about this match-up but I feel ill too .... http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/guus/drunk.gif

Well Safin was playing unconsciously good during the AO and plus the match was about as close as it gets lol... Hewitt is not playing *that* great this week from what everyone has said. And I can't compare with Andy/Haas because 3/4 of their matches were on clay!! And Andy played really poorly in the Houston final and he's not playing really poorly now, plus the grass suits him far more, obviously. I'm not saying Andy will roll over Lleyton - I just don't see how much you can really glean from comparing his activity from these players especially since Lleyton is nothing like Marat or Tommy really, and this is grass to boot.

I think the match is totally up in the air. I don't see either of them with some huge advantage. I think it's a lot of unknown quantity. IMO Stuff from 3 years ago, especially one match where Andy retired and another that was so close it could've gone either way reveals a whole lot. It's not like Lleyton totally creams Andy when they play like Haas seems to do and it's not like he has the game to frustrate him like Tim or Roger so I just don't see it so clear-cut at all either way lol

FanOfHewitt
06-11-2004, 04:43 PM
Hewitt hasnt beaten anyone in the top 30 for 4 months, he looked awful against Andreev, Roddick looked awesome against Paradorn. It would be a huge upset if Hewitt won but if he does it then well done to him

Not that it means much, but he has beaten Bjorkman, Gaudio (who is now in the top 30) and Verkerk (who was in the top 30 before Hewitt beat him) in the last 4 months.

Andy seemed to have an easy time of it with Paradorn. It didn't seem that way with Ancic (from the scorecard). Did anyone watch that match who would like to comment on Andy's level of play in that match with Ancic?

Billabong
06-11-2004, 04:46 PM
GOOOOOOOOO LLEY:bounce:!!!

Deboogle!.
06-11-2004, 04:46 PM
Well Ancic served really well, REALLY well, and Paradorn did not. Plus Ancic came in a lot and that always bothers Andy.

Leo
06-11-2004, 04:48 PM
I think Roddick will win but it's a toss-up in my mind. Whoever plays better on the big points will win ... what incredible insight, right?! :D

FanOfHewitt
06-11-2004, 04:59 PM
Anyone got a weather forecast for London tomorrow? Please tell me its going to be windy... lmfao

little duck
06-11-2004, 05:01 PM
Safin was at his best after the first set in AO, I don't think anyone can beat Safin's best.


Check Safins head to head with Federer, mate. How comes he loses almost every time?
I'd say Hewitt has a good chance against Roddick, but only if he plays a very good match, and he is capable to give his best when it's matters.

Action Jackson
06-11-2004, 05:12 PM
Anyone got a weather forecast for London tomorrow? Please tell me its going to be windy... lmfao

Be prepared for anything in London.

Action Jackson
06-11-2004, 05:21 PM
Check Safins head to head with Federer, mate. How comes he loses almost every time?
I'd say Hewitt has a good chance against Roddick, but only if he plays a very good match, and he is capable to give his best when it's matters.

Considering that he and I know that Federer leads 5-1, but how is that an issue here? Safin has never been at his devastating best when he has played Federer, but he has chopped Hewitt, Sampras, Agassi when he has played at that level.

Hewitt vs Roddick is the main show here and if Roddick serves well and it's a clear still day then he will get up.

CooCooCachoo
06-11-2004, 05:23 PM
What a horrible match.. Well a great match for the games, but a horrible match when it comes to the players..

Deboogle!.
06-11-2004, 05:31 PM
What a horrible match.. Well a great match for the games, but a horrible match when it comes to the players..

Then don't watch it :)

Raquel
06-11-2004, 05:40 PM
I think Lleyton is going to win this in 3 sets. Everything points to Andy winning but I just have a feeling Lleyton will win. Call it woman's intuition. Or desperate hope.

henree
06-11-2004, 05:43 PM
I feel like Andy will win this, but this hasn't been a good year for me in terms of predicting the outcome of big matches. I was so sure at the Aussie Open Andy would beat Safin. So It could go wither way. Sometimes Andy can fall apart, like against Spadea in the Semis of some tournament in March. Plus Hewitt is a great returner, so if Hewitt reverts to his counterounching style he wins in 3, but if Hewitt tries to play like he has recently, which has been more agressive offensively, then Andy in two.

Action Jackson
06-11-2004, 05:46 PM
What a horrible match.. Well a great match for the games, but a horrible match when it comes to the players..

Don't worry they won't be in Rosmalen next week.

Raquel
06-11-2004, 05:53 PM
The game will be won and lost on Roddick's serve. If he has a great serving day, then he will win. If he doesn't, then Hewitt has a chance. I think Andy should be favourite to win.



Andy's serve is the big factor. He gets so many free points off it. The thing is with Roddick he does not follow even his biggest serves in. He can hit a great serve and when he gets a floated return back he is hitting it either mid court or at the baseline rather than serve and volley. Give Roddick a mid court forehand he will win the point the majority of times, but if Lleyton can get some decent returns off Andy's serve and then survive Andy's second shot, I would give Lleyton an excellent chance in baseline rallies on grass.

Satanic Pasteur
06-11-2004, 05:55 PM
Considering that he and I know that Federer leads 5-1, but how is that an issue here? Safin has never been at his devastating best when he has played Federer, but he has chopped Hewitt, Sampras, Agassi when he has played at that level.

Marat never chopped Agassi, his two wins against him were very close contests BUT Rogi chopped André.
They both chopped Lleyton but Fed didn't chop Pete so it's a draw :devil:

*Ljubica*
06-11-2004, 05:57 PM
What a horrible match.. Well a great match for the games, but a horrible match when it comes to the players..

I totally agree with you Coo - so I'll be doing some housework instead, which proves I must be desparate to avoid it :devil:

And as to the weather FanOfHewitt - well it's still incredibly windy here now, but, as GWH says, - things can change in London very quickly though the forecast is for it to be pretty much the same tomorrow.

Deboogle!.
06-11-2004, 05:58 PM
According to the commentaries today, Andy was serve-volleying sometimes. If he doesn't mix it up on grass and come in behind his serve from time to time he's just stupid, especially since he volleys better now. Someone who saw today's match would have to give more information though, I don't know how much I trust the BBC Commentaries, ha ha. But this year "just getting Andy's serve back" hasn't done as much as it used to. Obviously it's a good start but where anyone who could get Andy's serve back used to regularly beat him, that's not the case nearly as often anymore.

And, no one's mentioning Lleyton's serve. I think that could be a factor too. One of the areas Andy's improved on best lately is how he plays return games and his return of serve period. So I think it would do Lleyton good to serve well also.

Action Jackson
06-11-2004, 06:00 PM
Hewitt hasn't served well for years. I am not sure if he is going to find the magic potion to get more 1st serves into play.

Pea
06-11-2004, 06:06 PM
Lleyton!;)

FanOfHewitt
06-11-2004, 06:11 PM
Andy's serve is the big factor. He gets so many free points off it. The thing is with Roddick he does not follow even his biggest serves in. He can hit a great serve and when he gets a floated return back he is hitting it either mid court or at the baseline rather than serve and volley. Give Roddick a mid court forehand he will win the point the majority of times, but if Lleyton can get some decent returns off Andy's serve and then survive Andy's second shot, I would give Lleyton an excellent chance in baseline rallies on grass.

It seems to me that Lleyton isn't as consistent as he once was with the return of serve. A few years back anything he could put a racquet to he would get back into play. I feel he is missing a few returns now, which doesn't make his job of breaking big servers any easier. Raquel, I hope Lleyton will be able to force his way into rallies with Andy on Andy's service games.

FanOfHewitt
06-11-2004, 06:14 PM
Hewitt hasn't served well for years. I am not sure if he is going to find the magic potion to get more 1st serves into play.

The last time he served well was for a duration against Roger Federer in the Australian Open. But good serving performances come around only once or twice a year. I'm hoping he saves his good service match for a slam.

FanOfHewitt
06-11-2004, 06:19 PM
And as to the weather FanOfHewitt - well it's still incredibly windy here now, but, as GWH says, - things can change in London very quickly though the forecast is for it to be pretty much the same tomorrow.

Ah, thanks Rosie, well I'll have my fingers crossed that it continues to be windy tomorrow. And by the way, I totally understand weather changing quickly. I'm from Melbourne, Australia, and we often experience four seasons in an hour!

jtipson
06-11-2004, 06:20 PM
The last time he served well was for a duration against Roger Federer in the Australian Open. But good serving performances come around only once or twice a year. I'm hoping he saves his good service match for a slam.

Yes, that was the match that came to mind for me too, when you were talking about Lleyton serving well. Stats were 82%, 81% and 71% first serves in for the first three sets IIRC. It didn't do him much good in the end of course, and the set where he hit 71% he still got bagelled :rolleyes:.

He will need to serve well tomorrow, but especially return well. Here's hoping for a great match.

Action Jackson
06-11-2004, 06:47 PM
The last time he served well was for a duration against Roger Federer in the Australian Open. But good serving performances come around only once or twice a year. I'm hoping he saves his good service match for a slam.

Good point and you know where I am coming from then.

Deboogle!.
06-11-2004, 06:48 PM
What does wind have to do with anything?

Shy
06-11-2004, 06:56 PM
If Hewitt can return Andy serves than Andy might be in trouble.

Iza
06-11-2004, 06:56 PM
C'mon Lleyton :bounce: !!!

Denise
06-11-2004, 07:11 PM
I dunno who is worst... lley or Andie? LOL! :rolleyes:

Andrew.
06-11-2004, 07:27 PM
If Andy plays like he did today, Lleyton could win. I hope so. :angel:

Deboogle!.
06-11-2004, 07:30 PM
If Andy plays like he did today, Lleyton could win. I hope so. :angel:

uh... he won 63 63, against a good grass player no less, so he couldn't have played *that* badly. and besides, who said Lleyton played wonderfully today either? Anyway, either of them is certainly capable of winning, I think we've established that:)

Havok
06-11-2004, 10:07 PM
This match is in Andy's hands. He'll pretty much decide who wins this thing. Obviously as someone mentioned, if he serves well, Lleyton doesn't really have a chance. This is grass court tennis where the balls stay low, so it's much more difficult to return serves, especially flat ones. Lleyton is too much hit and miss now, he lost his major consistency that made him oh so good. He's been missing moreso than hitting winners for over a year now. Roddick *should* win this in straights, but if he doesnt then :retard::scared::help:

Deboogle!.
06-11-2004, 10:13 PM
and your personal feelings toward Lleyton don't play into your analysis at all, right Naldo? ;) j/k :kiss:

Fedex
06-11-2004, 10:18 PM
C'mon Hewitt!! (lol, i NEVER thought i'd say those words) But i do feel that Andy is too good and will overpower Hewitt to win in straight sets. But if Hewitt is consistant on the return, he should have a chance. Hewitt certainly has more experience, which will hopefully carry him to victory (Trust me it took me awhile to decide who to *root* for. But i came to the conclusion, that I want Hewitt to beat Roddick, then Grosjean to beat Hewitt in the final( I know grosjean has a bad record against Hewitt 3-6, but Grosjean did kill hewitt last year at Queens, so i feel more confident with a Grosjean victory over Hewitt, than Roddick)

Chloe le Bopper
06-11-2004, 10:26 PM
I think Roddick will win but it's a toss-up in my mind. Whoever plays better on the big points will win ... what incredible insight, right?! :D
Mal, is that you? :D

Nishy
06-11-2004, 11:16 PM
Go Andy!

Pea
06-12-2004, 12:05 AM
Mal, is that you? :D

:haha:

Neely
06-12-2004, 12:11 AM
this couldn't be a better match-up! :bigclap: :bigclap:

I'm hoping a bit more for a Lleyton victory as he could badly need a good lead-up for the grass season, he is playing a much better year so far than 2003 and Andy won Queen's last year, but anyhow, it will be even very difficult for Lleyton to return Andy's serve if he serves very well tomorrow.

That's for sure, Andy has the bigger weapons...

AWESOME match-up for tomorrow afternoon! :woohoo:
I hope it's somehow exciting and not too one-sided for anybody, hopefully three sets! :)

CmonAussie
06-12-2004, 12:43 AM
* Some of you guys forgetting Rocky Llegs has the ability to rise to the occassion!!!???
-->> Of course Roddick plays well under pressure too BUT anyway i don't think this match will be one-sided either way; both guys have a lot of pride & remember they were touted as possible major rivals 3-years ago! So much has happened in that time~ 1st Lleyton peaked & overachieved his goals for 2-years; then Roddick peaked last Summer & seemed pleasantly shocked to win USO plus lucky to pull off Champions Race 03 narrowly from Federer & Ferrero!

GRASS is perhaps the best surface for BOTH players! The Grass season is so short so it's tough to gauge but Roddick & Hewitt own the last 4-consecutive Queens titles between them. In that way I wish it were a final becauase whoever wins from Roddick/Hewitt will probably have a straight-forward victory over Grosjean/Lee!
Looking at this matchup objectively I still can't be sure either way~~ anyway the score will be something like 6-4,4-6,7-5... so may the best man win!!!

PS~ We all know Rocky Llegs is the 'best man'(@_@)

Fedex
06-12-2004, 01:59 AM
If Hewitt wins, CmonAussie, i'm sure you remember last year, when Grosjean swept him off the court. Grosjean can beat Hewitt, because he can overpower him, but with Roddick he finds it very difficult to do so, as well as get that serve back. I think and (hope) that Hewitt wins this match, but if he plays Grosjean in the final, i think Grosjean will win.

Fedex
06-12-2004, 02:02 AM
Actually outdoor Hardcourt is the best for both, esp. Roddick. His serve is just about as daunting there, but he's better on hard because he has as better chance against someone who Serves & Volleys against him. Grass is one of the better surfaces for both players, but outdoor hard is still the best for BOTH players.

tennis_spider
06-12-2004, 03:43 AM
99%........ This will be a 3* SET match.

CooCooCachoo
06-12-2004, 05:25 AM
Then don't watch it


Trust me, I won't ;) Not that I would watch it if it were Robredo - Kucera, because I have to work :p

And GWH.. I wouldn't mind them being in Rosmalen, but I just wouldn't watch their matches there either ;) Although maybe I should be happy with them, as everyone else is pulling out!

CooCooCachoo
06-12-2004, 05:26 AM
99%........ This will be a 3* SET match.

Arguments? It may well be finished in two (tie-break?) sets too..

Clara Bow
06-12-2004, 05:49 AM
I would really like for Hewitt to win this. I love his scrappiness and would like him to get back to the top tier.

Lalitha
06-12-2004, 06:08 AM
* Some of you guys forgetting Rocky Llegs has the ability to rise to the occassion!!!???


Hewitt's ablity to rise to occassion is by and large only in the Davis Cup.

For Hewitt to win today, Andy should play badly.

Pea
06-12-2004, 06:19 AM
Hewitt's ablity to rise to occassion is by and large only in the Davis Cup.

For Hewitt to win today, Andy should play badly.

Umm.....everyone forgetting Lleyton did win Wimbledon at some time or another?

star
06-12-2004, 06:22 AM
* Some of you guys forgetting Rocky Llegs has the ability to rise to the occassion!!!???
-->> Of course Roddick plays well under pressure too BUT anyway i don't think this match will be one-sided either way; both guys have a lot of pride & remember they were touted as possible major rivals 3-years ago! So much has happened in that time~ 1st Lleyton peaked & overachieved his goals for 2-years; then Roddick peaked last Summer & seemed pleasantly shocked to win USO plus lucky to pull off Champions Race 03 narrowly from Federer & Ferrero!

GRASS is perhaps the best surface for BOTH players! The Grass season is so short so it's tough to gauge but Roddick & Hewitt own the last 4-consecutive Queens titles between them. In that way I wish it were a final becauase whoever wins from Roddick/Hewitt will probably have a straight-forward victory over Grosjean/Lee!
Looking at this matchup objectively I still can't be sure either way~~ anyway the score will be something like 6-4,4-6,7-5... so may the best man win!!!

PS~ We all know Rocky Llegs is the 'best man'(@_@)


I hope it is a great, hard fought match. I like both players and it will be hard for me to see one of them lose, but it must be. I just want them both to play well and bring out the best in one another.

star
06-12-2004, 06:24 AM
I am sure this is the one day "Potato Haters" will be pulling for the "Potato"... atleast, either Duck or Potato will be in the final, that's sweeeeeet

:lol: Duck and potato! Yummy!!

PerezRoldan
06-12-2004, 06:28 AM
Duck and potato needs to be cooked in a clay pot it cooks better that way.

I am not sure who will win, as has been said a lot of this match depends on Roddick, and if he has the canon serve working well, then it will be very hard for Hewitt, but if not then it will be closer. I think Roddick will win though, and what a great analysis from Captain Obvious.

CooCooCachoo
06-12-2004, 06:31 AM
I never liked duck.. Nor potatos. And that is no lie.

star
06-12-2004, 06:34 AM
Duck and potato needs to be cooked in a clay pot it cooks better that way.

I am not sure who will win, as has been said a lot of this match depends on Roddick, and if he has the canon serve working well, then it will be very hard for Hewitt, but if not then it will be closer. I think Roddick will win though, and what a great analysis from Captain Obvious.


It's better than my analysis which is essentially: One of them will win. :silly:

star
06-12-2004, 06:36 AM
I never liked duck.. Nor potatos. And that is no lie.

You are a curmudgeon!! and so young to be one too!

PerezRoldan
06-12-2004, 06:37 AM
It's better than my analysis which is essentially: One of them will win. :silly:

Only stating the obvious, though the cooking suggestions are probably better than my analysis.

Coo, you don't like duck or potatoes, but do you like roekworst?

Lalitha
06-12-2004, 06:38 AM
Umm.....everyone forgetting Lleyton did win Wimbledon at some time or another?

It does'nt matters how you played once upon a time. Today, the present is what all counts.

Lee
06-12-2004, 06:53 AM
:lol: Duck and potato! Yummy!!

I prefer Duck and taro root! A great Chinese dish. Yum Yum.

Auscon
06-12-2004, 11:43 AM
Really hoping Lleyton can win......I think a win over Roddick would be a great confidence boost to go into Wimbledon with, and would surely show some naysayers that he's still in the big show

I havent been able to watch any of Lleytons matches in the tournament, nor have I checked his stats too much, so I'm not sure exactly how good or badly he's playing

I'm not overly confident though....all I can say is that if Lleyton wins, he'll have to do it hard, but if Roddick wins, it could either be hardfaught, or a walkover

yanchr
06-12-2004, 11:59 AM
Actually rooting for either one makes me sick.

I think Roddick will win with his intimidating serves he has shown in this tourney. Hewitt was not looking very good at least vs Andreev. Never will I ever root for Hewitt, but this time I want Hewitt to win.

Auscon
06-12-2004, 12:04 PM
Actually rooting for either one makes me sick...Never will I ever root for Hewitt, but this time I want Hewitt to win.

Better the a bucket ready :)

Auscon
06-12-2004, 12:05 PM
Better the a bucket ready :)

wheres an edit button when ya need one? :)

*Ljubica*
06-12-2004, 01:14 PM
Actually rooting for either one makes me sick.

I think Roddick will win with his intimidating serves he has shown in this tourney. Hewitt was not looking very good at least vs Andreev. Never will I ever root for Hewitt, but this time I want Hewitt to win.

I agree totally - which is why I'll be doing the housework and ignoring it completely!! But to those of you yesterday who were asking about the weather here - well it IS windy - very windy - also quite overcast and grey with a few spots of rain - typical English Summer's day really, - so I guess the wind and the slower surface may favour Hewitt. And like you yanchr - this would be one day when I would want Hewitt to win if I was bothered to watch it!!!

tangerine_dream
06-12-2004, 02:08 PM
I agree totally - which is why I'll be doing the housework and ignoring it completely!!

We heard your announcement the first time, Rosie: you will be doing *housework* so that you can IGNORE Roddick and Hewitt COMPLETELY and you will be trying VERY hard to *forget* that they even EXIST in this WORLD. Oh! Your poor head! Where's the smelling salts?

*Ljubica*
06-12-2004, 02:25 PM
We heard your announcement the first time, Rosie: you will be doing *housework* so that you can IGNORE Roddick and Hewitt COMPLETELY and you will be trying VERY hard to *forget* that they even EXIST in this WORLD. Oh! Your poor head! Where's the smelling salts?

Wow - you do think you're so amusing don't you :) Pity so many people on this Board don't agree. And - no I'm not entering into any more silly arguments with you here - I have far better things to do with my time.

Bye bye :wavey: .

Havok
06-12-2004, 02:37 PM
Gosh. The haters (from both sides) are really keeping this thread alive :woohoo::woohoo:

Neely
06-12-2004, 04:39 PM
Andy's serve just tooooooooooooooooo STRONG and BIG

there is no way you can beat him if he is serving like he did in this 1st set tiebreak and in the 2nd set

Lleyton had his chances and showed that he is a great player, but he got his neck broken as he lost serve while serving out the 1st set

the 2nd set was pure dominance by Andy then, no chance, no chance in hell to break him if he is serving like that. Just one double fault the whole match and he was hitting his 2nd serves almost as fast as his 1st ones. No CHANCE, NO CHANCE.

Only player who can deal with Roddick serving like that is Federer (and maybe Henman if he catches a good day).

FanOfHewitt
06-12-2004, 04:49 PM
Yeah well said Neely. Overall, Roddick was too powerful. He was also probably more consistent in the groundstrokes. He was really rallying well with lleyton near the end there, and broke him twice in the second set. He also was approaching the net quite a bit, which is another dimension to his game which kept Lleyton guessing.

Hewitt was just a little bit wide on some crucial moments during the first set and let Andy back into it. Nevertheless, a pretty good preparation for Wimbledon.

Neely
06-12-2004, 04:56 PM
Hewitt just a little bit wide on some crucial moments during the first set and let Andy back into it. Nevertheless, a pretty good preparation for Wimbledon.
yes, that stupid forehand on 7-7 in the tiebreak :rolleyes:

if Lleyton gets out this 1st set winning 7-6 then it would have been interesting...

but overall, the reality showed, that Andy was too good then in the 2nd set

bad luck, Lleyton
but glad you won some matches in Queen's... go for another good result in Wimbledon!

Congrats Andy! :yeah:
(please beat Grosjean tomorrow :( )

lsy
06-12-2004, 04:56 PM
Only caught the 1st set and some of 2nd. Obvously Hewitt had his chance on the 1st when Andy serve wasn't really going on yet (though he still serve like 6 aces there I think), Andy's volley also failed him a few times there and then. When it gets into rallies, Hewitt had the upper hand. And of all perople, Hewitt choked while serving at 5-4, with 5 UEs and serving badly in that game after having served pretty well for the whole set. Guess it's karma since quite a few choked serving match/set vs him before today. Even in the TB, at 7-7, he frozed on his own serves if I didn't remember wrongly.

As Neely said, once Andy serves rolled on, it's almost impossible for Hewitt to do anything. Didn't look like there's any chance for Hewitt in the 2nd set, at least for those parts I watched.

Anyway, I guess it's again a let down of a highly anticipated/hyped up match?

Deboogle!.
06-12-2004, 05:00 PM
Anyway, I guess it's again a let down of a highly anticipated/hyped up match?

Isn't that how it usually is? :sad:

lsy
06-12-2004, 05:05 PM
Isn't that how it usually is? :sad:

It sure is but obviously all of us fools here will still continue to hype up matches with these big names, then get disappointed all over again ;)

I thought you should be showing big smiling face here though ;)

Deboogle!.
06-12-2004, 05:21 PM
It sure is but obviously all of us fools here will still continue to hype up matches with these big names, then get disappointed all over again ;)

I thought you should be showing big smiling face here though ;)

Yes we will, won't we? :)

and yes I'm very happy about the end result :) But still :sad: it wasn't a really high-quality match.

WyveN
06-12-2004, 05:23 PM
surprised a bit that the first set was so close, maybe the previous matches were on Andys mind?

I wonder if Lleytons lucky draws will continue at Wimbledon.

lsy
06-12-2004, 05:25 PM
WyverN, pls don't tell me you really missed your flight

TennisLurker
06-12-2004, 05:27 PM
wow, so andy served very big and hewitt couldnt break him... ?


yawn..

WyveN
06-12-2004, 05:32 PM
WyverN, pls don't tell me you really missed your flight

nah, got delayed - not much to do in airport terminals apart from go on the net at insane prices

Howlman
06-12-2004, 07:04 PM
Wow - you do think you're so amusing don't you :) Pity so many people on this Board don't agree. And - no I'm not entering into any more silly arguments with you here - I have far better things to do with my time.

Bye bye :wavey: .

Rosie, Cleaning your trailer AGAIN!!!
WOW 4 times this week...Resupply those cleaning supplies ,you are gonna need them to IGNORE the "7" matches Roddick wins at Wimbledon!!!

Bye...Bye

BaselineSmash
06-12-2004, 07:19 PM
yes, that stupid forehand on 7-7 in the tiebreak :rolleyes:

if Lleyton gets out this 1st set winning 7-6 then it would have been interesting...

but overall, the reality showed, that Andy was too good then in the 2nd set

bad luck, Lleyton
but glad you won some matches in Queen's... go for another good result in Wimbledon!

Congrats Andy! :yeah:
(please beat Grosjean tomorrow :( )

Why do you want Sebastien to lose?

Fedex
06-12-2004, 08:09 PM
Hewitt :( :fiery: The one time i want you to win and you blow it! :rolleyes: If only Tim had not done so well at RG, he would be in the final right now, ready to beat the shit out of Andy again :lol: Hewitt had the 1st set, had he won it it would be a totally different match, as Roddick is for 1 a front runner, and struggles to come from behind.

Fedex
06-12-2004, 08:13 PM
Wow - you do think you're so amusing don't you :) Pity so many people on this Board don't agree. And - no I'm not entering into any more silly arguments with you here - I have far better things to do with my time.

Bye bye :wavey: .
Rosie, i envy you!! :worship: :worship: :D

star
06-12-2004, 08:20 PM
Why do you want Sebastien to lose?

Maybe she wants Andy to win. :)

heya
06-12-2004, 09:08 PM
Bitter trolls are still delicious. Allez :lick::rocker2:

BaselineSmash
06-13-2004, 12:33 AM
Maybe she wants Andy to win. :)

Oh, how could I miss something so obvious? ;)

No, I asked the question because Neely used ":(" beside Grosjean's name, as if she had a deep-seated grudge of some kind against him. I'm especially curious because I can't understand how anyone would harbour feelings of dislike for the adorable Frenchman. :)

star
06-13-2004, 12:43 AM
:lol:

There are even people who don't like Guga!

But Neely doesn't seem to have strong grudges or hatreds of players so, yeah, I can see that would be puzzling to you. :)

Deboogle!.
06-13-2004, 12:50 AM
There are even people who don't like Guga!


:eek: :scratch: :confused: :sad: :unsure: :cuckoo:

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-13-2004, 01:15 AM
That's a gorgeous statement Lalitha--even to life in general!! I am going to write that down, it so purrty

It does'nt matters how you played once upon a time. Today, the present is what all counts.

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-13-2004, 01:25 AM
This is the only record book information I ever remember, but a few years back, Lleyton was up 6-0 in a final set tiebreak, and lost the tiebreak. Once a choker, always a choker... lol, I am just kidding there

And of all perople, Hewitt choked while serving at 5-4, with 5 UEs and serving badly in that game after having served pretty well for the whole set.

Lalitha
06-14-2004, 09:59 AM
That's a gorgeous statement Lalitha--even to life in general!! I am going to write that down, it so purrty



Thanks Mrs.Guga. It's indeed. I like Guga too.

When Guga was playing Roger at this years RG, I simply did'nt accept this theory. :lol: :lol:

J. Corwin
06-18-2004, 02:45 AM
I couldn't even follow this match online. :(

Havok
06-18-2004, 02:56 AM
:(.