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Lee def. Schalken 7-6, 6-7, 6-3

Sjengster
06-10-2004, 06:52 PM
fucking typical sjeng, back on your "best surface" and of course you're goin to win lots of matches, be a contender for wimbledon second week, you're one of the best grass-courters around... when are people and the kiss-arse dutch media gonna wake up and realise that he's hopeless on the big stage and can never achieve anything? ooh, look at me, I made a couple of qfs at wimby, I'm such a natural on this surface - he can't beat the top guys, federer and roddick always make mincemeat out of him. omg, the biggest headline he made was by gettin defaulted this year! I'm so fuckin sick of people talking him up when his serve is so hopeless and he has none of the mental strength needed to be a champion! :mad:

:)

Horatio Caine
06-10-2004, 06:56 PM
fucking typical sjeng, back on your "best surface" and of course you're goin to win lots of matches, be a contender for wimbledon second week, you're one of the best grass-courters around... when are people and the kiss-arse dutch media gonna wake up and realise that he's hopeless on the big stage and can never achieve anything? ooh, look at me, I made a couple of qfs at wimby, I'm such a natural on this surface - he can't beat the top guys, federer and roddick always make mincemeat out of him. omg, the biggest headline he made was by gettin defaulted this year! I'm so fuckin sick of people talking him up when his serve is so hopeless and he has none of the mental strength needed to be a champion! :mad:

:)

Sjeng! :bigcry: I wanted him to go far in Queen's. What is happening to all these seeds?!!! Duckboy only just got through today and Johnny Marray could have beaten Potato...get it together guys!

Hey! :) I like his serve - makes me laugh everytime he goes through the motion!

That default this year was class - all the anger from his whole career let out in one great big burst - what caused him to that anyway? Sleepness night? T'was funny tho - I could never imagine Sjeng getting a warning for swearing or tossing a racquet let alone being disqualified!

Neely
06-10-2004, 07:00 PM
judging by his standards and his previous years, Sjeng has a bad year so far, it's not just on grass, it was also the weeks before.

Maybe he can break out of his slump and win a couple of matches at his favorite tournament, in 's-Hertogenbosch ;)

Schalken has still a very good record on grass and most of it come from the last two years in 's-Hertogenbosch.

Don't know what's wrong with him, though... a sort of crisis, a usual slump that many players have to go through at a certain stage of their careers... ??? :shrug:

CmonAussie
06-10-2004, 07:01 PM
@@ Take it easy Sjeng mate!

Lee is an underrated player; remember he beat Roddick & Ferrero on his way to claiming Sydney IS Title last year->> also Lee has been Rd.4 at USO & Rd.3 at French Open recently. * Actually the gritty Korean is the underachiever~ he could have done more in his career!!

Schalken on the other hand has done pretty well by winning Titles in 5-Continents!{Agassi is the only other one isn't he?} Sjeng's biggest opportunities were Wimbledon QF 02 & USO SF 02~ that's when I thought he may have gone all the way *@@*. He let Hewitt off the hook there & Sampras lifted his game just when it mattered the most!

TennisLurker
06-10-2004, 07:01 PM
Escude, is that you ?

Sjengster
06-10-2004, 07:03 PM
I LURVE satire, especially when people are oblivious to it... he he!

Neely
06-10-2004, 07:05 PM
I LURVE satire, especially when people are oblivious to it... he he!
lol, don't worry, but I was aware of that because you indicated it with your smiley at the end

anyway, you can take my previous post as serious without satire ;)

BaselineSmash
06-10-2004, 07:07 PM
I LURVE satire, especially when people are oblivious to it... he he!

Yeah, right, no genuine sentiments at all...

TennisLurker
06-10-2004, 07:10 PM
I wonder if this will be the last year of schalken and novak in the top 20

Layla
06-10-2004, 07:12 PM
:haha:

That's the way to deal with it. :yeah:

Horatio Caine
06-10-2004, 07:12 PM
I wonder if this will be the last year of schalken and novak in the top 20

and Philippoussis and maybe even Shuettler?

alfonsojose
06-10-2004, 07:14 PM
Lee wants Srichaphan's place as top asian player ;) . CmonAussie is right. He's underrated

TennisLurker
06-10-2004, 07:14 PM
but schalken and novak have been in the top 20 for years

TennisLurker
06-10-2004, 07:17 PM
Lee is a fine player, there is no shame in losing to Lee.

Sjengster
06-10-2004, 07:17 PM
Seriously, this loss really pisses me off because Schalken's draw had opened up perfectly. Ah, to think I was happy when Lee beat Rusedski on Monday since I thought he'd be an easier opponent for Schalken (who has said he hates playing Rusedski more than anyone else)... but they are pretty evenly matched, I suppose, and Lee served very well from the stats. For the whole year Schalken has got away with crap results while his ranking has barely changed in that 13 to 16 bracket, now his points are coming home to roost - for the next three weeks he has a title and a Wimbledon QF to defend, and I pray he can do it. Clement, where are you when Sjeng needs you?

Sjengster
06-10-2004, 07:26 PM
Actually Schalken was nowhere near the Top 20 until 2002, it was only when he finally broke his third round duck at the Slams (and how fitting that it was at Wimbledon, where he had previously lost third round matches 13-11 and 20-18 in the fifth) that he climbed up the rankings, and in fact I think he finished that year at number 20, so he only just made it. But you know, during last year's clay season he was ranked 11, playing Munich I remember, and if he'd made the final he could have been Top 10... he lost in the quarters to Kafelnikov, who had had to retire the day before from doubles with a neck injury and I thought wouldn't even play. Story of Schalken's career, really.

The same with Novak, it wasn't until he took advantage of a decimated draw in Australia that he made the climb into the Top 20 and had his career year. Be interesting to see how he defends Gstaad, where he has won twice beating Ferrero and Federer in the finals in 2001 and 2003 respectively.

LCeh
06-10-2004, 07:27 PM
Clement, where are you when Sjeng needs you?

He is gonna play against Roger. ;)

Yeah, I think Sjeng is in a slump right now. I don't mean any offense, but I am not too sure what weapons Sjeng has that can really hurt other players, since I rarely get to see Sjeng play. But from what I have heard, he is a solid player that plays percentage. Hmm... maybe he is just off mentally right now?

Sjengster
06-10-2004, 07:35 PM
I know LCeh, I was just referring to the fact that Schalken has a somewhat... favourable head to head against Clement.

He doesn't have much to hurt players with on clay, and certainly can't trouble the top guys, but on grass he has the kind of flat strokes that I would have hoped would be good enough to take out Lee. I was worried about how he'd defend his points last year, of course, and he did perfectly (since he achieved exactly the same in 2002), but his form is definitely worse right now. If he can't get Clement in the final again, can he at least get Portas and Christophe Rochus in the first two rounds like he did last year?

TennisLurker
06-10-2004, 07:38 PM
Schalken has a good forehand, a good backhand, and knows how to use those strokes

:P


I thought Novak was top 20 in 2001, he won munich, gstaad and did fine in the second half of the year.

Well, anyway, schalken and novak are good examples of consistent performers in a slump.

Sjengster
06-10-2004, 07:46 PM
I'm glad you memorised that quote, Lurker, I really am...

Yes, maybe Novak did get to the Top 20 in 2001, but I recall he was seeded in the 25-32 range during that wacky AO where he made the semis at the start of the next year. He's the sort of guy who will lose early a lot of times without being noticed but then suddenly have a good result, like reaching the quarters in Rome. He always says grass is a terrible surface for him, but if he serve-volleyed like he does in doubles he has very good volleys and his returning is very good too, which is obviously important on grass. It's just that in singles he likes to play from the baseline with the ball sitting up at a nice height, rather than being forced to bend low to slices and flat shots.

RogiFan88
06-10-2004, 09:38 PM
I'm sorry Sjeng lost too, Sjengster... I was hoping he could break out of his post-nuptial bliss slump and win a match or two or three... this is v bad going into Rosmalen indeed -- will anyone turn up for Sjeng Schalken Day???

It's Pandy and Lleyton I want out, not Sjeng!!

Aleksa's Laydee
06-10-2004, 09:56 PM
Hey! :) I like his serve - makes me laugh everytime he goes through the motion!!

the 1st time i saw it i cracked up everytime he did it


as for today sjeng :o :fiery: :mad: :sad: :smash:

Horatio Caine
06-10-2004, 10:05 PM
as for today sjeng :o :fiery: :mad: :sad: :smash:

Couldn't have summed it up better Mardyfishfan! I do hope that Sjeng gets out of this slump though - i like him as a person and a professional.

Leo
06-10-2004, 10:16 PM
Shitty year for Sjeng. He'll bounce back eventually, although I'm not sure when.

heya
06-11-2004, 01:13 AM
ASIANS :rocker2:

naiwen
06-11-2004, 07:15 AM
Layla, I love your avatar. =)

Experimentee
06-11-2004, 02:36 PM
Lee is an underrated player, like everyone said. He's been in a slump for the last year, but started showing something at the FO where he made the 3rd Rd, and then continued it onto grass, which is a good surface for him.
Schalken to me is quite overrated. Hes been losing a lot to much lower ranked players lately, and his game is not that special, he pretty much wins from being consistent. He shouldnt be expected to always win these kinds of amtches.