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I'm sorry Coria~ I was wrong

CmonAussie
06-06-2004, 07:22 PM
:sad: :sad:
* Today I watched possibly the most dramatic Slam Final i can remember & to be honest i think Coria deserved to win this more than Gaudio. Of course I'm very happy for Gaston :) :) because he's shown that it's possible to turn around a career & a 0-6,3-6,1-3 deficit for the biggest win of his career; also he's a nice guy & great emotion to pull off the miracle :cool: !

HOWEVER in a post yesterday I said some nasty things about Coria "...he's not a man..." etc. WELL I WAS TOTALLY WRONG~ Coria showed me how gracious he can be in defeat; when it must have crushed his extraordinary spirit to see such a big lead slip away when it mattered most!

Coria Mate you are a hero & from this day on you'll be getting plenty more support from the fans I'm sure. You deserved the FO title this year BUT sports are cruel like this; I'm sure your chance will come again~~ then I hope you'll grap it with both hands :angel: !

CORIA YOU'RE THE MAN !!! :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

Jinx
06-06-2004, 10:25 PM
Congratulations.......This is a great post :worship:

fco253
06-06-2004, 10:31 PM
Aussie, I also have gained a lot of respect for you after this post...I won't forget.

Siva
06-07-2004, 01:36 AM
RESPECT :bowdown:

Coria deserves it, we all know that !! :yeah:

Leo
06-07-2004, 01:40 AM
Gaudio wasn't down 1-3 in the 3rd. Sorry, I'm very picky today. ;)

Siva
06-07-2004, 01:41 AM
Gaudio wasn't down 1-3 in the 3rd. Sorry, I'm very picky today. ;)

You are forgiven ;)

star
06-07-2004, 01:44 AM
:sad: :sad:
* Today I watched possibly the most dramatic Slam Final i can remember & to be honest i think Coria deserved to win this more than Gaudio. Of course I'm very happy for Gaston :) :) because he's shown that it's possible to turn around a career & a 0-6,3-6,1-3 deficit for the biggest win of his career; also he's a nice guy & great emotion to pull off the miracle :cool: !

HOWEVER in a post yesterday I said some nasty things about Coria "...he's not a man..." etc. WELL I WAS TOTALLY WRONG~ Coria showed me how gracious he can be in defeat; when it must have crushed his extraordinary spirit to see such a big lead slip away when it mattered most!

Coria Mate you are a hero & from this day on you'll be getting plenty more support from the fans I'm sure. You deserved the FO title this year BUT sports are cruel like this; I'm sure your chance will come again~~ then I hope you'll grap it with both hands :angel: !

CORIA YOU'RE THE MAN !!! :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:


:hug: :hug: :hug:

I can't tell you how happy that makes me, mate. It makes me a little misty eyed to see that someone who recognizes the gallant fighting spirit that goes by the name of Lleyton Hewitt, has come to recognize the same gallantry in Coria.

Leo
06-07-2004, 01:49 AM
You are forgiven ;)

I wasn't apologizing to you, silly. ;)

star
06-07-2004, 01:53 AM
The best kind of forgivness is the kind that wasn't asked for. ;) :hug:

ale
06-07-2004, 02:20 AM
The best kind of forgivness is the kind that wasn't asked for. ;) :hug:
:smooch: :hug: :smooch: :smooch: :kiss: :kiss: :angel: :angel:

ale
06-07-2004, 02:23 AM
:sad: :sad:
* Today I watched possibly the most dramatic Slam Final i can remember & to be honest i think Coria deserved to win this more than Gaudio. Of course I'm very happy for Gaston :) :) because he's shown that it's possible to turn around a career & a 0-6,3-6,1-3 deficit for the biggest win of his career; also he's a nice guy & great emotion to pull off the miracle :cool: !

HOWEVER in a post yesterday I said some nasty things about Coria "...he's not a man..." etc. WELL I WAS TOTALLY WRONG~ Coria showed me how gracious he can be in defeat; when it must have crushed his extraordinary spirit to see such a big lead slip away when it mattered most!

Coria Mate you are a hero & from this day on you'll be getting plenty more support from the fans I'm sure. You deserved the FO title this year BUT sports are cruel like this; I'm sure your chance will come again~~ then I hope you'll grap it with both hands :angel: !

CORIA YOU'RE THE MAN !!! :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

Thanks :hug: It makes me feel good. :hug: thank you....you made my day!!! :smooch: :smooch:

PinkFeatherBoa
06-07-2004, 02:31 AM
That truely was a beautiful post CmonAussie. :hug:

Fostin
06-07-2004, 02:46 AM
aw that's a cool post! and yes Coria is a nice guy...

Carito_90
06-07-2004, 03:57 AM
aww there's a lot of huggin and kissin here! :lol:

I LOVED that post duh... it's amazing. :worship: .. you deserve it!

liptea
06-07-2004, 04:08 AM
Coria's not my favorite, but he was as gracious as could be expected under the circumstances.

I don't think the issue is the giant lead that he blew, but rather the two championship points he had. That's gonna kill him.

I didn't really like Coria, but I do feel horrible for him.

MisterQ
06-07-2004, 04:15 AM
:)

Smankyou
06-07-2004, 04:31 AM
:hug: :hug: :hug:

I can't tell you how happy that makes me, mate.

:lol: You're so cute :)

alita
06-07-2004, 04:48 AM
:) nice thread.
It's a comfort.

keredster
06-07-2004, 05:50 AM
i don't actually like coria because of his look. I juz don't understand how he looked so much like michael jackson to me, so i think it look crappy to me. Sorry 4 those michael jackson fans. But, after the final, i began to respect him!!! Actually, 1 more thing is that i think coria should deserve the win than gaudio as coria has waited so long for the crown. I think that the win didn't actually help gaudio much as even though he is now 4th in the atp champion race, i think he may juz drop out of top 10 after the grass season. Safin, Roddick, Henman, Nalbandian and Hewitt are juz right behind him and the grass season is one of the season for these players and even the hardcourt season is their favourite season too. Gaudios has a very weak record of doing well after the clay court season. I can now see that this Roland Garros crown is a waste to land on Gaudio's hands. It will be better on Coria's hands as finally there is someone that is able to compete with Federer. Despite of the crown, I can see that gaudio is not going to make it to Tennis Master Cup in Houston this year. Last but not least, i wanna congratulate Coria for his performace in Roland Garros. Don't give up as there will always be next year.

Hope that Hewitt will do well in Queen's & Wimbledon.C'MON HEWITT!!!

trixy
06-07-2004, 07:00 AM
There's so much love in this this thread ;)

Great post :worship:

CmonAussie
06-07-2004, 07:28 AM
*@@* Yes we all agree Guille is a champion with a lion-heart spirit~ despite narrowly losing RG yesterday>_<.

Star Mate; I was so moved by Coria's post-match interview, i think it's wonderful that he was so brave to lay it on the line & speak completely honestly at his moment of despair.. Somehow I can relate to him, especially how he was trying to 'bury the demons' of the contaminated supplements. He's been through so much in a short time~ the last 3-years must have appeared like a lifetime to him & yet his brave enough & honest enough to recognise why he didn't win..

Today I still can't concentrate because I'm thinking about all the momentum swings in the match; how I was supporting Gaudio until the 5th set BUT after that i wished Coria could have snatched victory from the jaws of defeat!!
To think he still managed those 2-match points after all his problems with cramps & over analysis about his demons etc.. The 1st match point he was clearly unlucky since the ball only missed by a couple of inches!

The most dramatic Grand Slam final in memory will certainly change Coria; from this he will grow so much as a person & finally get the respect from more fans which he obviously deserves.

Personally it's also going to change me; life is full of tough breaks & unlucky blows~ next time I'm feeling sorry for myself I'll remember how brave Coria was & that it's important to hang-in-there for our next opportunity!

Guille Mate~ please win FO or another Slam soon; then you can bury those bad memories once & for all!
...Coria is a sensitive guy~ now I can see his true character@@

CooCooCachoo
06-07-2004, 07:48 AM
My opinion on Coría did not really change. I still dislike him as a player. But what I do respect, is how he behaved on court. I know that many players would've started smashing their racquets and shouting (including some of my favourite players), but Guillermo stayed very calm. I respect and even admire that.

WyveN
06-08-2004, 12:49 PM
My opinion on Coría did not really change. I still dislike him as a player. But what I do respect, is how he behaved on court. I know that many players would've started smashing their racquets and shouting (including some of my favourite players), but Guillermo stayed very calm. I respect and even admire that.

someone told me he smashed a racket after losing on match point, didnt see it personally though

Action Jackson
06-08-2004, 12:51 PM
Coria did smash a racquet, and then he didn't handle himself that well in the presentation. I wonder if Coria actually learnt anything from the loss, and no my opinion hasn't changed at all of him.

star
06-08-2004, 01:40 PM
someone told me he smashed a racket after losing on match point, didnt see it personally though

After the match, he smashed his racket on his chair.

star
06-08-2004, 01:42 PM
My opinion on Coría did not really change. I still dislike him as a player. But what I do respect, is how he behaved on court. I know that many players would've started smashing their racquets and shouting (including some of my favourite players), but Guillermo stayed very calm. I respect and even admire that.

awwww :hug: You know I still love you anyway. ;)

But Guille rarely smashes rackets or yells curses on the court.

undomiele
06-08-2004, 07:05 PM
Coria did smash a racquet, and then he didn't handle himself that well in the presentation. I wonder if Coria actually learnt anything from the loss, and no my opinion hasn't changed at all of him.

What? I disagree. He handled himself remarkably well during the presentation (considering the circumstances) and everything he said in spanish was gracious to both Gaudio and his country. Did you get a good translation on TV of what he said?

star
06-08-2004, 08:21 PM
Personally, I have never seen anything wrong with Coria's behavior in the first place so I don't see that he has a need to change in that department. I don't mind that he was angry and disappointed after the loss. From what the spanish speakers have told me, he gave a gracious speech. He even managed a smile when posing with the winner for photographs. I don't know what sublime standard he is measured against, but I see far worse behavior all the time from players and there is hardly any criticism of them.

Experimentee
06-10-2004, 05:56 PM
I'm sorry but i dont agree that Coria behaved well in the final. I think he overexaggerated his cramps in the 4th set just to get at Gaudio. He cant have had cramps on some points, but then running like a gazelle on other points. Either you've got cramps or you dont. He made it look like he couldnt put weight on his leg while he was serving, but he was putting lots of weight on it when running and stretching out wide with no problems. Coria's main problem was mental, not physical, and ironically Gaudio was the mentally stronger of the two.

Action Jackson
06-10-2004, 06:03 PM
What? I disagree. He handled himself remarkably well during the presentation (considering the circumstances) and everything he said in spanish was gracious to both Gaudio and his country. Did you get a good translation on TV of what he said?

I had a native Spanish speaker with me and sure it was hard, but he could have finished the speech at the presentation. Ok, the whole you don't know what it's like argument, well I think I do considering I was the guy who discovered a friend of mine who topped himself and there was blood and guts everywhere and someone had to describe it and I didn't break down.

Anyway, I have said this before cramp is not an injury and never has been, it's a loss of condition which can be bought on by many things and in Coria's case it was anxiety and he said that himself. He moved very well in the 5th set and made most of the dropshots easily, he gambled on Gaudio losing and failed. If that's cool with you that these tactics are alright then, that's fine.

Chloe le Bopper
06-10-2004, 06:03 PM
Yes, clearly Coria just tanked the fourt set to throw Gaudio off because that would make SO MUCH SENSE. Whew. Glad we cleared that one up.

Experimentee
06-10-2004, 06:11 PM
Yes, clearly Coria just tanked the fourt set to throw Gaudio off because that would make SO MUCH SENSE. Whew. Glad we cleared that one up.

You've never heard of players who arent in their best physical condition tanking 4th sets to save themselves for the 5th?

Chloe le Bopper
06-10-2004, 06:18 PM
Yes, he began tanking at the beginning of the fourth set because that would make so much sense!

Look, I think we are disagreeing on what a "tank" is here. I don't doubt that Coria didn't give it all in the fourth. However, it is really clear to me that he didn't give it all because he couldn't. WOuld it not have been to his benefit to at least hold serve one more time so that he coudl serve first in the fifth? Furthermore, it later has come to surface that he was intructed not to go full out for ten minutes following his injury timeout. Thus, he was following orders. That is not the same as tanking the fourt set to throw Gaudio, which would make absolutely no bloody sense whatsoever.

But.. whatever. If people who loathe Coria and want him DEAD want to think that he tanked the fourth set for shits and giggles because that woudl make SO MUCH SENSE... so be it. I, and anybody with eyes (and the interest to read after match reports) can see that it was much more than that.

TennisLurker
06-10-2004, 06:25 PM
agassi tanked the fourth set against ivanisevic in the 1992 wimbledon final

Chloe le Bopper
06-10-2004, 06:30 PM
agassi tanked the fourth set against ivanisevic in the 1992 wimbledon final
I'm sure he did, but I'm not sure what that has to do with Coria doing as instructed. Then again, I'm sure that Coria could donate money to an orphanage and people would still find a way to insult him for it. So... I give up.

Gaudio won, and that isn't good enough for some people (not talking about you lurker, or even necessarily exper.). Sad.

:wavey:

Lady
06-10-2004, 06:37 PM
Yes, he was faking, that why he couldn't serve in that 5th set.

If he's so smart & tricky, don't you think he should have hit some proper serve on one of those 2 match points to win the match??
Ok, I know I'm wasting my time

Chloe le Bopper
06-10-2004, 06:41 PM
You really are :)

I guess he was faking all that stuff in his press conference too. I bet he eats babies in his spare time too, the horrible person that he is.

Some people are just so ridiculous (again... I'm not necessarily talking about you, exper.... I'm talking about other people who have made repeated ridiculous comments on this matter already ;))

Experimentee
06-10-2004, 06:43 PM
Yes, he began tanking at the beginning of the fourth set because that would make so much sense!

Look, I think we are disagreeing on what a "tank" is here. I don't doubt that Coria didn't give it all in the fourth. However, it is really clear to me that he didn't give it all because he couldn't. WOuld it not have been to his benefit to at least hold serve one more time so that he coudl serve first in the fifth? Furthermore, it later has come to surface that he was intructed not to go full out for ten minutes following his injury timeout. Thus, he was following orders. That is not the same as tanking the fourt set to throw Gaudio, which would make absolutely no bloody sense whatsoever.

But.. whatever. If people who loathe Coria and want him DEAD want to think that he tanked the fourth set for shits and giggles because that woudl make SO MUCH SENSE... so be it. I, and anybody with eyes (and the interest to read after match reports) can see that it was much more than that.

Tanking the set does make sense if your opponent is Gaudio and you know him as well as Coria. He may have been instructed to do so, but probably he knew that it might also throw Gaudio off, and put in as little effort as he possibly could. 'Not giving it his all' is not the same as what Coria did, he gave even less than that. It seemed too convenient that he would play like that for the 4th set but come out firing in the 5th.
I'm not sure where the last paragraph came from, I certainly dont loathe Coria or want him dead, nor does anybody else on this forum. Exaggerating a bit arent you? That sounds so hysterical its funny. Dont worry no one will do a Gunther Parche on Coria ;)

Experimentee
06-10-2004, 06:47 PM
I just find it hard to believe that someone would cramp after only two 6-0 6-3 sets. It must be incredibly bad physical conditioning, even worse than Gimelstob, or some mental tactics going on.

Action Jackson
06-10-2004, 06:48 PM
Yes, he was faking, that why he couldn't serve in that 5th set.

If he's so smart & tricky, don't you think he should have hit some proper serve on one of those 2 match points to win the match??
Ok, I know I'm wasting my time

Don't waste your time I saw the 5th set yesterday and he was running a lot better in that set and since when has Coria had a destructive serve?

His fault on the match points that he went for winners as he was expecting Gaudio to choke when it came down to it, he took a gamble and got done.

Chloe le Bopper
06-10-2004, 06:49 PM
Tanking the set does make sense if your opponent is Gaudio and you know him as well as Coria. He may have been instructed to do so, but probably he knew that it might also throw Gaudio off, and put in as little effort as he possibly could. 'Not giving it his all' is not the same as what Coria did, he gave even less than that. It seemed too convenient that he would play like that for the 4th set but come out firing in the 5th.

He did exactly as he was intructed. Had he done otherwise, there may have been a 0-6 fifth set for him. I'm sorry, but I see absolutely no logic whatsoever in somebody going "oh, 1 all in the fourth set! Let's tank now and win the fifth, because that would make a lot more sense than trying now when we're even in the fourth to wrap it up and save myself the trouble later". That just makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever, I can't say that enough.


I'm not sure where the last paragraph came from, I certainly dont loathe Coria or want him dead, nor does anybody else on this forum. Exaggerating a bit arent you? That sounds so hysterical its funny. Dont worry no one will do a Gunther Parche on Coria

I'm not so sure about the "nor does anybody else on this forum part", but I was being tongue and cheek. It was supposed to be so ridiculous that it was amusing.
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Chloe le Bopper
06-10-2004, 06:51 PM
I just find it hard to believe that someone would cramp after only two 6-0 6-3 sets. It must be incredibly bad physical conditioning, even worse than Gimelstob, or some mental tactics going on.
"Nervous cramps". Yes, that is mental. Sometimes mental phemonena can be expressed physically... surely this isn't news to you? I don't mean that to sound condescending, but the fact that psychological problems sometimes manifest themselves physically isn't exactly a new thing. Especialyl with nerves and your muscles getting tight etc etc. I'm not making excuses for Coria getting the cramps, I'm just explaining how they may have happened. The fact is that mentally he wasn't as ready as Gaudio (a thought that would ahve made many laugh two weeks ago), and that screwed him physically.

Experimentee
06-10-2004, 06:58 PM
He did exactly as he was intructed. Had he done otherwise, there may have been a 0-6 fifth set for him. I'm sorry, but I see absolutely no logic whatsoever in somebody going "oh, 1 all in the fourth set! Let's tank now and win the fifth, because that would make a lot more sense than trying now when we're even in the fourth to wrap it up and save myself the trouble later". That just makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever, I can't say that enough.

I'm not so sure about the "nor does anybody else on this forum part", but I was being tongue and cheek. It was supposed to be so ridiculous that it was amusing.
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He decided to tank when he was instructed not to play his best, and he also knew that if he did that it would get to Gaudio mentally. He knew there was no point in trying in the 4th set because he was cramping and wouldnt win the set, even if it was 1-1. So he tanked, not just in the normal way like Agassi used to do, but he was acting like he was crippled. He didnt need to act like he couldnt move in order to 'not try his best' like the trainer ordered. He went beyond what he was ordered to do so he could make Gaudio choke. Thats my point :)
And yeah you did achieve your aim of being amusing ;)

Chloe le Bopper
06-10-2004, 07:01 PM
I still disagree entirely that his ploy was to throw Gaudio off. I think that his ploy was to get himself in the best position to win, physically.

Regardless, that is the best response I've seen on the matter so far, even if I don't agree with it.

I can agree to disagree with that. Though I'm sure that all the fools who didn't know their ass from their elbow the other day will claim this is exactly what they meant, so I give them all a premature :rolleyes: :p

Experimentee
06-10-2004, 07:13 PM
"Nervous cramps". Yes, that is mental. Sometimes mental phemonena can be expressed physically... surely this isn't news to you? I don't mean that to sound condescending, but the fact that psychological problems sometimes manifest themselves physically isn't exactly a new thing. Especialyl with nerves and your muscles getting tight etc etc. I'm not making excuses for Coria getting the cramps, I'm just explaining how they may have happened. The fact is that mentally he wasn't as ready as Gaudio (a thought that would ahve made many laugh two weeks ago), and that screwed him physically.

Of course i know thats possible, it crossed my mind but i think Coria is better than that. He's played and won big events before, not a Grand Slam but many TMS finals, and hes never been known as a choker, unlike Gaudio. I dont think even Gaudio is so pathetic that he'll choke so bad he gets cramps, let alone Coria.

Experimentee
06-10-2004, 07:18 PM
I still disagree entirely that his ploy was to throw Gaudio off. I think that his ploy was to get himself in the best position to win, physically.

Regardless, that is the best response I've seen on the matter so far, even if I don't agree with it.

I can agree to disagree with that. Though I'm sure that all the fools who didn't know their ass from their elbow the other day will claim this is exactly what they meant, so I give them all a premature :rolleyes: :p

Thanks. It was never my intention to change anyone's mind on the matter, i know we all have our own opinions and i was just expressing mine. I am fine with everyone having other theories too :)

Action Jackson
06-10-2004, 07:20 PM
I still disagree entirely that his ploy was to throw Gaudio off. I think that his ploy was to get himself in the best position to win, physically.

Regardless, that is the best response I've seen on the matter so far, even if I don't agree with it.

I can agree to disagree with that. Though I'm sure that all the fools who didn't know their ass from their elbow the other day will claim this is exactly what they meant, so I give them all a premature :rolleyes: :p

Yes, this is exactly what I meant.

undomiele
06-11-2004, 12:29 AM
What did you guys (TLurker and GWhitler mainly) think of his postmatch interview? Maybe you guys have made an opinion on it already. :confused: What did you think of Coria's explanations there?

Deboogle!.
06-11-2004, 12:39 AM
I just find it hard to believe that someone would cramp after only two 6-0 6-3 sets. It must be incredibly bad physical conditioning, even worse than Gimelstob, or some mental tactics going on.

I listened to a very interesting interview from NPR last summer before the US Open that they did with Doug Spreen. I only bring it up because you mentioned Gimelstob and so did he. He gave this long scientific answer (to a question about cramping) that basically boils down to him saying it has nothing to do with physical conditioning but that some people are not biologically capable to take in enough water that their bodies perspire. I don't recall him saying anything about mentally-induced but it seems plausible of course. I just found what he said about Gimelstob really interesting. But, I digress anyway.

Well if you want to listen
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1401490

Chloe le Bopper
06-11-2004, 02:04 AM
Yes, this is exactly what I meant.
:p

Chloe le Bopper
06-11-2004, 02:05 AM
Of course i know thats possible, it crossed my mind but i think Coria is better than that. He's played and won big events before, not a Grand Slam but many TMS finals, and hes never been known as a choker, unlike Gaudio. I dont think even Gaudio is so pathetic that he'll choke so bad he gets cramps, let alone Coria.
But... he'd never played in a slam final before, and that is as big as it gets. If you haven't and are interested, he discusses his nerves in his post match interview at great length.

WyveN
06-11-2004, 02:48 AM
What did you guys (TLurker and GWhitler mainly) think of his postmatch interview? Maybe you guys have made an opinion on it already. :confused: What did you think of Coria's explanations there?

I found them pretty dodgy, apparently the trainer gave him a tablet that he conveniently doesn't know the name of and that cured cramps in 10 minutes.

I have played competitive tennis for many years and thrown at least a half dozen opponents into physical distress with cramps. I have gone down on a few occassions, although more often after the match. These were all 3 setters. Chang not withstanding, once this happens, the match is pretty well over. I have never seen anyone go as bad as Coria did and then come back to moving so strongly--on clay no less.

I.V. fluids, *maybe* would put an end to it, but not very practical
during the match, can someone please let me know what sort of tablet makes such severe cramps manageable in 10 minutes?

gina_
06-11-2004, 03:03 AM
Damnit; this was supposed to be a beautiful post. someone who dared to admit having wronged coria in some ways, brave enough to admit it

and everyone here just has to turn into another argument about whether coria was faking cramps blah...

it's OVER. and it's not like anything is going to change your minds even though some of the arguments FOR and AGAINST coria are quite valid...it's just what we choose to believe.

this happens with every thread here. when there's support given for a certain player, people just have to come ruin the party by arguing and telling people not to.

who are you to tell us that coria isn't the one we should support? right now, i don't bloody care anymore.

i'm supporting coria no matter what.

WyveN
06-11-2004, 03:16 AM
who are you to tell us that coria isn't the one we should support? right now, i don't bloody care anymore.


who told you that?

The point of a tennis message board is to share opinions about tennis, if you dont like some of those opinions then dont come into the thread.

switz
06-11-2004, 03:51 AM
coria was instructed to not go all out? by whom? his coach? isn't that illegal? why was he getting away with being coached and all those foot faults he was doing? doesn't seem right to me that his physical condition should allow him to live outside the rules.

he did tank the 4th set. he was swiping at the ball the whole time. the reason he wouldn't try and hold serve so he could serve first in the 5th was because if he was broken he would have been mentally less prepared to play the fifth. whereas it is commonly known that many players just throw sets away in order to start the 5th as if it's a new match.

i'm not going to lie, i don't like coria. i think he is probably a nice person, as he seems happy and friendly, but i never liked his game, the way he questions every call, and the way he behaved in the final (my personal opinion, i'm not going to lie just to get rep points).

i'm sure gaudio might have had a few more things to say had he lost.

gina_
06-11-2004, 05:39 AM
who told you that?

The point of a tennis message board is to share opinions about tennis, if you dont like some of those opinions then dont come into the thread.

Sometimes, I don't consider this place about sharing opinions. It starts out that way and degenerates. I mean people just won't leave the topic alone. (or maybe they won't; until you change your opinion to align with theirs)

And nobody "told" me that, but it's fairly obvious that anytime a positive-coria thread comes up, all his fans get a whole lot of dirt about him.

And you know, its always the same things they drag up.

WyveN
06-11-2004, 07:00 AM
Sometimes, I don't consider this place about sharing opinions. It starts out that way and degenerates.


the thing is that this thread degenerated when you decided to have a whine about criticism of Coria in this thread, even though people have backed up their opinion and didn't just say "CORIA SUCKS"



And nobody "told" me that, but it's fairly obvious that anytime a positive-coria thread comes up, all his fans get a whole lot of dirt about him.
And you know, its always the same things they drag up.

there have been far more threads with dirt about Gaudio then Coria since the end of the FO, I don't see any dirt in this thread either, just people expressing opinions.

gina_
06-11-2004, 07:16 AM
the thing is that this thread degenerated when you decided to have a whine about criticism of Coria in this thread, even though people have backed up their opinion and didn't just say "CORIA SUCKS"




there have been far more threads with dirt about Gaudio then Coria since the end of the FO, I don't see any dirt in this thread either, just people expressing opinions.

But you see the thing is the point of the thread about Coria cramping or Coria not having sportmansship in the first place. I can see where you're coming from and I'm sorry of you see me as whining but it's just incredibly frustrating to have someone give a personal opinion and then people going oh no- and arguing about whether or not he faked cramps or whether or not he has the right tactics.

Okay, I see your point. And I take it back about people digging up dirt about Coria in this thread. But, I thought that was all argued over and done with in the other thread about "coria pulling tricks in the 3rd set" and it gets super annoying seeing something more positive and having that same argument carrying over. However, you are right about arguing fairly.

FrenchLouise
06-11-2004, 10:34 AM
coria was instructed to not go all out? by whom? his coach? isn't that illegal? why was he getting away with being coached and all those foot faults he was doing? doesn't seem right to me that his physical condition should allow him to live outside the rules.
Well it does happen pretty often! Both Coria and Gaudio were talking/listening to their coaches throughout the match.

budikovac
06-11-2004, 11:03 AM
The point of a tennis message board is to share opinions about tennis, if you dont like some of those opinions then dont come into the thread.
I Can't agree with you more! :worship:
I hate all the threads that have 100 replays and every each one of the is the same: "Go Coria, go..." and so on! Thats boring to read! :(

rassklovn
06-11-2004, 11:10 AM
who told you that?

The point of a tennis message board is to share opinions about tennis, if you dont like some of those opinions then dont come into the thread.

Great post I mean we have had some arguments, but at least you know how to put forward your arguments and can back them up.

I have just gone through and read all these threads that seem to be going out of their way to discredit Gaudio's victory and make Coria some kind of martyr.

That's true if someone doesn't like some of the opinions on this or any message board then they don't go there then.