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Coria lost third set and started to pull tricks

alfonsojose
06-06-2004, 04:24 PM
:awww: , i have cramps :rolleyes:

Noodles
06-06-2004, 04:31 PM
me too :wavey:

jazz_girl
06-06-2004, 04:33 PM
He's not faking it, he's playing like crap. This is serious.
I don't like Coria at all, but I don't want him to lose like this. I hope he can recover for the fifth, because I can't see him winning the fourth set...

Lady
06-06-2004, 04:35 PM
He's not only playing like crap, he can't move :sad:

alfonsojose
06-06-2004, 04:36 PM
This is the most perverse trick ever. "i'm going to make Gaudio thinks he should beat me 'coz i'm injured. With his weak mind, i'll make the turn around in the fifth set" :mad:

Snoopy_Girl
06-06-2004, 04:37 PM
No, I don't think he's faking either! Look at his serve! And he doesn't even return balls that are within his reach without walking! I hope the cramp goes away.. or else it'll be such a bad and sad ending for a Slam final...

Scotso
06-06-2004, 04:37 PM
that's stupid Alfonso

this is really sad and you're being a complete ass.

Dirk
06-06-2004, 04:37 PM
Coria might try to do everything he can to play great in the 5th set. No way he would do this especially given the occasion. This is very disturbing.

-wokkel-
06-06-2004, 04:38 PM
so sad.. guiile :sad:

alfonsojose
06-06-2004, 04:38 PM
He wants to be the hero, like Chang here in 1989 against Lendl :awww: :(

jazz_girl
06-06-2004, 04:40 PM
Fifth set! So now what? I hope Coria recovers and gaudio can win a decent match...

alfonsojose
06-06-2004, 04:42 PM
that's stupid Alfonso

this is really sad and you're being a complete ass.

Hey, Dr. Scotso. I'm not insulting anyone here :o

Look at the fifth set and you'll see how he'll improve.

Snoopy_Girl
06-06-2004, 04:43 PM
Fifth set! So now what? I hope Coria recovers and gaudio can win a decent match...Exactly! I want Gaudio to win too.. but not because Coria either has to stop hitting decent winners or because he retires, that would make a really lame end for the French Open.... :o And I don't think a real sportsman would like to win like that.

alfonsojose
06-06-2004, 04:44 PM
Gaudio is scared now. Coria. You're a magician really :worship: . What a trick

Scotso
06-06-2004, 04:48 PM
Cramps can be worked out :rolleyes:

go Guillermo!

Wojtek
06-06-2004, 04:48 PM
Coria is ok now :rolleyes:

jazz_girl
06-06-2004, 04:48 PM
Gaudio needs to focus!!!! Coria is not playing at his best at all!

alfonsojose
06-06-2004, 04:49 PM
Where are the cramps now? He's moving well and broke Gaudio's serve. :awww: , my hero. Knowing Gaudio positive and self-loving mind, this is over.

Scotso
06-06-2004, 04:49 PM
he's still not serving or moving nearly as well.

faboozadoo15
06-06-2004, 04:52 PM
what a bunch of coria bullshit! encore, encore! tanks the fourth and during the first medical time out when gaudio was pretty rattled, he pumped his fist at his box!
what an ass.
hope he "cramps" more...
this is the worst sportsman I have ever seen in the sport of tennis.

MisterQ
06-06-2004, 04:52 PM
This is one of the most bizarre matches i have ever seen!! :eek:

undomiele
06-06-2004, 04:53 PM
He had a really bad bad cramp. And he mostly worked it out but he's hardly playing at his best

Scotso
06-06-2004, 04:54 PM
Gaudio is nervous.

SanTaureau Fan
06-06-2004, 04:55 PM
Please, if the umpire would have 2 balls between his legs, he would have disqualified Coria after the fourth set. Tanking during a whole set shouldn't be allowed in tennis.

alfonsojose
06-06-2004, 04:55 PM
Oh, yes. I have cramps and i just ran a drop shot ;) :tape:

faboozadoo15
06-06-2004, 04:55 PM
Gaudio is nervous.
too bad he's not as deft at taking advantage of situations and manipulating matches outside the realm of playing good tennis. :rolleyes:

fco253
06-06-2004, 04:55 PM
Alfonso: YOU ARE INSANE...

you just throw this around because you don't like the guy...

jazz_girl
06-06-2004, 04:56 PM
This is one of the most bizarre matches i have ever seen!! :eek:
I totally agree!

faboozadoo15
06-06-2004, 04:57 PM
Alfonso: YOU ARE INSANE...

you just throw this around because you don't like the guy...
no, i think the only way you could defend this behavior if you LIKE this guy way too much.
this is terrible for the sport of tennis to have to see on such a big stage.

GO GAUDIO! beat the bullshitter!

Scotso
06-06-2004, 04:58 PM
keep bitching, it won't change anything.

undomiele
06-06-2004, 04:58 PM
You guys aren't even giving him the benefit of the doubt... :rolleyes: all because you don't want to. It doesn't make sense that coria would do this when he was clearly winning and the superior player of the match. I don't buy your conspiracy theories. its just so friggin spiteful

faboozadoo15
06-06-2004, 04:59 PM
u can ignore the bitching if you don't like it.
it's a popular choice to run from the truth.

Snoopy_Girl
06-06-2004, 04:59 PM
It's a combo of both I think. Coria is doing a bit better, but not well yet and he's dragging Gaudio down with him, playing way slow, losing the length in his strokes.. Gaudio is so nervous that he starts to play the same pace as Coria.. really, Gaudio is digging is own grave if he keeps playing like this. So many errors, and we're in the fifth now, can't say he still needs to warm up or something ;)

Scotso
06-06-2004, 04:59 PM
wow Gaudio is really tanking :D my mom hits 2nd serves hard than that one and he still couldn't do anything about it.

jcman
06-06-2004, 05:00 PM
coria is exaggerating his injury.....

HybridTheory
06-06-2004, 05:01 PM
what an asshole if this is fake
and it seems to be cuz hes moving very well again:(

alfonsojose
06-06-2004, 05:01 PM
Gaudio is nervous.

That's the point. Corias saw Gaudio lifting his game and pulled the cramps trick just for make Gaudio nervous. I hope tennis world aren't so blind or so hypoctrit when Coria lift the trophy. ANd I wouldn't leave Gaudio alone after this match. He could kill himself :(

faboozadoo15
06-06-2004, 05:02 PM
You guys aren't even giving him the benefit of the doubt... :rolleyes: all because you don't want to. It doesn't make sense that coria would do this when he was clearly winning and the superior player of the match. I don't buy your conspiracy theories. its just so friggin spiteful
gaudio OWNED the momentum and just whyen he overcame his nerves AND got the crowd on his side that coria started this bullshit.
and i don't think of him as a superior player. if you can't last through the match, you are not superior, and if you have to pull this kinda of crap to win, more power to you, but your name shall float in infamy.

faboozadoo15
06-06-2004, 05:04 PM
wow Gaudio is really tanking :D my mom hits 2nd serves hard than that one and he still couldn't do anything about it.
delusional.
called change of pace. very smart play on the clay... keep up :wavey:

Scotso
06-06-2004, 05:04 PM
Coria isn't playing that well. He's keeping the points short, as often happens when a player cramps. If you don't believe him, whatever. But don't dare insult us for doing so.

Wojtek
06-06-2004, 05:05 PM
I knew he will be ok in the fifth set.

fco253
06-06-2004, 05:06 PM
He has dominated every player in the world on this surface with his "normal" game...

...why in hell would he, one set away of his biggest victory, fake an injury and serve at 2 mph?...come on guys, you are just sustaining this because you don't like the guy...

HybridTheory
06-06-2004, 05:06 PM
well, i believe that someone with cramps doesnt run like this, he doesnt seem to have any pain at all, you see nothing in his face

alfonsojose
06-06-2004, 05:07 PM
He's not only the king of clay. King of shame is up to him :rolleyes:

tangerine_dream
06-06-2004, 05:08 PM
Well, Coria certainly got into Gaudio's head didn't he? :o

Snoopy_Girl
06-06-2004, 05:08 PM
I dooooon't trust this... Coria still looks to be in not such a great form, but he definitely took the momentum away from Gaudio with that medical time out... He's still behaving like a player trying to avoid the rest of the cramps.. then again I don't know how good of an actor he is

Scotso
06-06-2004, 05:09 PM
somehow I don't think your insults will matter much if he wins this title.

faboozadoo15
06-06-2004, 05:09 PM
He has dominated every player in the world on this surface with his "normal" game...

...why in hell would he, one set away of his biggest victory, fake an injury and serve at 2 mph?...come on guys, you are just sustaining this because you don't like the guy...
once again, gaudio had ALL the momentum and confidence. gaudio is a stronger player and coria can't keep up with that if gaston can shed his nerves.

undomiele
06-06-2004, 05:10 PM
Its a fucking cramp! The kinda shit you can get through if you have time... which is why he tanked the fourth. And coria is pretty off some of his shots --easy shots he easily could have made before, he's missing.
I mean this is also a guy who played through kidney stones without much emotion sooooo of course he might not look like he's in pain.

SanTaureau Fan
06-06-2004, 05:10 PM
Coria cramps are NOT fake.

It's not the problem.

The problem is the total change in his play from the end of the fourth set and the beginning of the fifth set. Changing from the tanking mode to the rabbit mode.

undomiele
06-06-2004, 05:11 PM
But whatever. you guys will believe what you want to believe.:rolleyes:
Im going to watch the rest of this in peace.

fco253
06-06-2004, 05:12 PM
Why is basically throwing away games even in 5th set, in that case?...

...You really believe he is THAT confident that can turn it up any moment...sorry it makes no sense...

btW, he hda no wear duirng thsi tourney, so it must have been nerves induced cramps, obviously you can get better of them, but he is not 100%

I HOPE YOU ALL MAKE APOLOGY THREADS IF HE LOOSES IT


You saw that point at 4-3 15-30, wouldn't he have run that ball if faking? C'mon

Lady
06-06-2004, 05:15 PM
Exactly, he always runs for the balls, and now he doesn't

Snoopy_Girl
06-06-2004, 05:33 PM
Oh he runs again ;) just watch it.. if he really wants to he can run ;)

alfonsojose
06-06-2004, 05:34 PM
Coria's game : I won in spite of cramps or I lost because of cramps. :awww: :kiss:

Seraphim
06-06-2004, 05:35 PM
GATO IS PISSING ME THE FUCK OFF!

I CAN'T BELIEVE HE HAD THIS IN THE BAG AND FUCKED IT UP.

alfonsojose
06-06-2004, 05:36 PM
Vamos Guille, the last trick ;)

alfonsojose
06-06-2004, 05:37 PM
You can't trust Gaudio's mind and Coria's cramps :tape:

Chloe le Bopper
06-06-2004, 05:44 PM
You do not tank a 4th set when you are up 2-1 sets in a Grand Slam final. There is just no logical reason for that.

It's unfortunate that some of you are so wrapped up in your own disgusting hatred that you can't realize that.

However, Gaudio is likely going to win, and he will be a very deserving winner.

alfonsojose
06-06-2004, 05:47 PM
No more tricks "Mago" , Gaudio won :rolls: :rolls: :rolls: :rolls:

jazz_girl
06-06-2004, 05:47 PM
gaudio won!!!!!!1 OMG!!!!

Seraphim
06-06-2004, 05:53 PM
HE WON, BUT I'M STILL SICK AND A LITTLE WOOZY FROM ALL OF THE CHANCES HE HAD WITH A HALF-INJURED CORIA ON COURT.

FUNNY THING IS, IT WAS CORIA WHO WAS USING THE SMARTER TECHNIQUES AND STRATEGY.

star
06-06-2004, 05:55 PM
:rolleyes:

Let the hating begin.

¿esquímaux?
06-06-2004, 05:56 PM
No more tricks "Mago" , Gaudio won :rolls: :rolls: :rolls: :rolls:


:o

Yonge
06-06-2004, 06:11 PM
I think the cramps were real. I'm not surprised Guille got most of his composure back in the 5th set because sometimes cramps really go away pretty quickly. In fact the last time I had cramps, I just put my cold drinks against my thighs and a few minutes later it was gone. I know Guille has been known to pull tricks but this one was real I think.

Frooty_Bazooty
06-06-2004, 06:11 PM
alfonso, I cant believe you made a thread this fucking immature and ignorant. Delete it!

Chloe le Bopper
06-06-2004, 06:37 PM
alfonso, I cant believe you made a thread this fucking immature and ignorant. Delete it!
It just goes to show what sort of hatred individual he is. It's nice when posters decide to step out of their shells and show their true colours. It shows who is and isn't worth discussing with, that much is for sure.

Anyways, Gaudio is a *very* deserving winner, and his reaction to winning was beautiful. His words to Coria were very gracious. Coria will be back, and Gaudio just turned his whole career around in two weeks. I can't be dissapointed in this result.

I can, however, be disgusted to see the true colours of some of the posters around here. They aren't pretty, and they will not be forgotten.

Some of you really ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

JennyS
06-06-2004, 07:18 PM
.Maybe he was really hurt and tanked the fourth set and was prepared to give it his all in the fifth. Or maybe all of the treatments finally helped him and he could play better.

Dana
06-06-2004, 07:25 PM
I've been going back and forth on what I think happened. Maybe he really hurt and tanked the fourth set and was prepared to give it his all in the fifth. I still don't know what to think.
First, the cramps were real and he was really hurting. They gave Coria some pills and it could take some time before he ca feel the effect. I read in a French newspapers (Liberation) that the tournament doctor told Coria to slow down a little bit and wait before the pills make some effect. For me it makes some sense and it's normal that he was feeling a bit better for the 5th set. it wasn't a trick. If you're trying to play at a high level while you are cramping it could only make the situation worse...

SanTaureau Fan
06-06-2004, 07:38 PM
I don't blame Coria (I would have done the same to save my energy for the fifth set considering how cramps are bad when you play tennis), however almost throwing a set away shouldn't be allowed. You either can play or you retire.

Safin was fined for not trying at the Australian Open - I know that it's a totally different situation as he wasn't injured and was losing the match, but still, it shows that tennis players must give an effort to make it look like a match. And there was no match in the fourth set. Coria played like a club player.

alfonsojose
06-06-2004, 08:25 PM
alfonso, I cant believe you made a thread this fucking immature and ignorant. Delete it!

Well, Frooty. I did it. And it seems i was wrong. But I'm not going to delete this thread. I would be inmature and ignorant if i do that. I can make mistakes. If everybody here wants to jump on me because of that, go.

I have no regrets. Coria is not mr. fair play and he has done things like that in the past. I just overreacted angrily as soon as he started cramping

And Rebecca, this is not a western movie. This is a forum. I'm not going to play "Word War" with you. If u think i can't make mistakes, good luck perfect girl (boy - not sure, sorry)

jbone_14
06-06-2004, 09:04 PM
Coria is soo full of shit. He only played 17 sets in the French Open untill the final and Gaston had played 26+ sets not to mention doubles. Who is most likely to get cramps. Anyways, it doesn't matter, I'm just happy his ass lost.

Chloe le Bopper
06-06-2004, 11:48 PM
And Rebecca, this is not a western movie. This is a forum. I'm not going to play "Word War" with you. If u think i can't make mistakes, good luck perfect girl (boy - not sure, sorry)

I'm not really sure what you're rambling about here. I'm not trying to argue with you. I was telling you how disgusting I thought you were today and that you really ought to be ashamed of yourself.

I make mistakes too, but not to this degree. I have never, ever made a thread of this nature before, and never will. It wasn't that you made a mistake, it was that this thread showed an absolutely revolting side of you. I'm sorry we had to see, I really am. It is truly sad what hatred can do to people, it really is.

Chloe le Bopper
06-07-2004, 12:04 AM
Anyways, I'm sorry for going off at you. I was just very irritated with how you acted, and as I said... imo, you were blinded by hatred. It was dissapointing. This is where I get patronizing and say "I thought you were better than that", I guess ;)

Yes, I've acted like a total ass over a match before. I think that I said something about Hewitt starting a band with Courier once, but I still maintain that was kind of funny. Hm.

I just hope that people see this and think to give Coria the benefit of the doubt next time, because you really never know. It he came back from the TO running to and fro, I could see the suspicion. The only grounds for it in this case was hatred. That is really it. You don't tank a fourth set in a grand slam final, you just don't.

I've said my piece ;)

stacy_zam
06-07-2004, 12:15 AM
Congrats Gaudio!!
Isnt it weird in the 4th set when Coria keep having Foot Faults and the Lines Men didnt call one or two of them while when Gaudio had a foot fault they called it.
Maybe the Lines men were just giving Coria a break. Anyways highly entertaining match especially the 5th. Good effort from both.

faboozadoo15
06-07-2004, 12:37 AM
I think the cramps were real. I'm not surprised Guille got most of his composure back in the 5th set because sometimes cramps really go away pretty quickly. In fact the last time I had cramps, I just put my cold drinks against my thighs and a few minutes later it was gone. I know Guille has been known to pull tricks but this one was real I think.
perhaps the boy who cried wolf, then. :rolleyes:
i can't get over the fact that ON CAMERA he looked over at gaudio, saw him pacing, looked over to his box and pumped his fist...

anyway, i'm sooooo happy gaudio won! it's unbelievable!!!

jbone_14
06-07-2004, 04:48 AM
No wonder why they call him el mago, the magician, because he can pull soo many tricks out on court, but this time it didn't work. I think Coria needs to go back to wizardry school to polish up his cheats....coughs **shots**coughs hahaha

Chloe le Bopper
06-07-2004, 04:53 AM
Disgusting.

Trent
06-07-2004, 12:08 PM
Please, if the umpire would have 2 balls between his legs, he would have disqualified Coria after the fourth set. Tanking during a whole set shouldn't be allowed in tennis.

Why? He was up two sets to one, he could afford to rest up in the 4th, what's wrong with him saving energy for the 5th?


I don't think any of you have any right to judge Coria unless you were in his shoes and knew exactly what was going on.

fco253
06-07-2004, 02:08 PM
FABOO, JBONE, ANDY (DQ?) and specially ALFONSO, you are only haters who aren't worth of a discussion...luckily you have shown this "nice" side, so I won't waste my time with you guys in the future.

SanTaureau Fan
06-07-2004, 03:07 PM
Why? He was up two sets to one, he could afford to rest up in the 4th, what's wrong with him saving energy for the 5th?


I don't think any of you have any right to judge Coria unless you were in his shoes and knew exactly what was going on.

I never, ever judged Coria for anything. I made judgements about the umpire.

faboozadoo15
06-07-2004, 04:22 PM
FABOO, JBONE, ANDY (DQ?) and specially ALFONSO, you are only haters who aren't worth of a discussion...luckily you have shown this "nice" side, so I won't waste my time with you guys in the future.
before match happened, find ONE negative comment I have ever made about coria... plain and simple, I am not a "hater." yes, that is a challenge, find me ONE.
i tuned in; i was thoroughly disgusted with the dearth of sportsmanship, and I posted my opinion... didn't create hate threads or do anything like that-- come on. :rolleyes:
get real

MagoRG
06-07-2004, 06:34 PM
It just goes to show what sort of hatred individual he is. It's nice when posters decide to step out of their shells and show their true colours. It shows who is and isn't worth discussing with, that much is for sure.

Anyways, Gaudio is a *very* deserving winner, and his reaction to winning was beautiful. His words to Coria were very gracious. Coria will be back, and Gaudio just turned his whole career around in two weeks. I can't be dissapointed in this result.

I can, however, be disgusted to see the true colours of some of the posters around here. They aren't pretty, and they will not be forgotten.

Some of you really ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
I hope it doesnt´turn coria´s career!!
Anyway....congrats to gaudio...though he didn´t play that well (I know it´s always hard to play vs an injured guy)
Guille.........still proud of you!!! The press conference made me really sad!!

Trent
06-07-2004, 09:52 PM
I never, ever judged Coria for anything. I made judgements about the umpire.

Didn't say you did, my second sentence was a broad statement at the entire thread.

jbone_14
06-08-2004, 04:01 AM
Obviously there must be something that Harry Coria did, say, or his attitude to tick us off. I just wouldn't start talking about somebody if they didn't do or say anything. Guillermo Potter is cocky, annoying, bratty, whiny, a crybaby, I dont like his tennis style, so obviously I really dont like him. I'n really cool with Nalbandian so it has nothing to do with the Argentines.

gina_
06-08-2004, 05:37 AM
Look, I know a good argument refrains from namecalling. But seriously, this whole thing about coria pulling tricks is ridiculous. Some of the posts here border on the incredulous and the stupid.

There is no logic involved really.

1. Coria won the first two sets, here's the thing, pretty convincingly. There was no need to stretch it to a 5th set so he could trip his opponent up. If he had been fit, I'm pretty sure he would have taken the 4th set.

2. Did you not see that bloody swell on his leg? Did you not see him bloody hobbling around the court and being reduced to walking pace? DID YOU NOT SEE HIM CRY AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE?

3. And don't be so sure he's acting. How are we supposed to know whats real and whats not. It looked pretty genuine to me and BACKED UP by the fact that there was no reason for him to do that. No reason whatsoever. And if you're citing his supposedly "miraculous recovery"; I think he had to give it his ALL. It wasn't easy (although it might have looked so) and he did have time to loosen that muscle in the 4th set. Also, he was NOT AS FAST AS WHEN HE IS FIT. I don't know how many of you slammers actually watch coria's games but he's alot speedier and reacts quicker when he's fit. He wasn't able to reach that optimum in the 5th. It was rather obvious! Coria gets to some impossible shots; he's that quick! And he just couldn't do that in the 5th because he had a REAL CRAMP.

I'm not taking anything away from Gaudio. He put in effort and I know he had to work harder than the more naturally gifted player but I really don't think he would have won if Coria did not get injured.

And for all the idiots who don't half a thing abt coria's history and are whinging about how he is "bratty and whiny and a crybaby, bratty". DAMNIT.

1. Would you not cry if you had this chance of a LIFETIME; to fufil the dream you had as a kid because of a unfortunate injury?

2. DO you guys even know how this grandslam is to him? It's not just a shot for glory, he had something to prove. He had to prove to all the people who shot him down when he was suspended for taking contaminated vitamins. It HAUNTED him and its perfectly human. Coria's a DEEPER, more REAL, emotional person than you think he is. He's GENUINE, at least. Just because he's aggressive on court and because he appears calm and collected doesn't mean he doesn't have emotional turmoil inside. Give him a break. He's 22. He's just a simple kid, almost, with a dream and determination to prove people wrong.

I'll leave you with a quote that says everything abt Coria as a person. Honestly, he's just a simple person, who's really nice, genuine, open and has tons of integrity and determination.

"I really wanted to win, to try to forget everything I have deep inside"

So stfu if you don't know half the thing about him and decide to make stupid arguments that have no EVIDENCE to back it up.

jbone_14
06-08-2004, 06:22 AM
Look, I know a good argument refrains from namecalling. But seriously, this whole thing about coria pulling tricks is ridiculous. Some of the posts here border on the incredulous and the stupid.

There is no logic involved really.

1. Coria won the first two sets, here's the thing, pretty convincingly. There was no need to stretch it to a 5th set so he could trip his opponent up. If he had been fit, I'm pretty sure he would have taken the 4th set.

2. Did you not see that bloody swell on his leg? Did you not see him bloody hobbling around the court and being reduced to walking pace? DID YOU NOT SEE HIM CRY AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE?

3. And don't be so sure he's acting. How are we supposed to know whats real and whats not. It looked pretty genuine to me and BACKED UP by the fact that there was no reason for him to do that. No reason whatsoever. And if you're citing his supposedly "miraculous recovery"; I think he had to give it his ALL. It wasn't easy (although it might have looked so) and he did have time to loosen that muscle in the 4th set. Also, he was NOT AS FAST AS WHEN HE IS FIT. I don't know how many of you slammers actually watch coria's games but he's alot speedier and reacts quicker when he's fit. He wasn't able to reach that optimum in the 5th. It was rather obvious! Coria gets to some impossible shots; he's that quick! And he just couldn't do that in the 5th because he had a REAL CRAMP.

I'm not taking anything away from Gaudio. He put in effort and I know he had to work harder than the more naturally gifted player but I really don't think he would have won if Coria did not get injured.

And for all the idiots who don't half a thing abt coria's history and are whinging about how he is "bratty and whiny and a crybaby, bratty". DAMNIT.

1. Would you not cry if you had this chance of a LIFETIME; to fufil the dream you had as a kid because of a unfortunate injury?

2. DO you guys even know how this grandslam is to him? It's not just a shot for glory, he had something to prove. He had to prove to all the people who shot him down when he was suspended for taking contaminated vitamins. It HAUNTED him and its perfectly human. Coria's a DEEPER, more REAL, emotional person than you think he is. He's GENUINE, at least. Just because he's aggressive on court and because he appears calm and collected doesn't mean he doesn't have emotional turmoil inside. Give him a break. He's 22. He's just a simple kid, almost, with a dream and determination to prove people wrong.

I'll leave you with a quote that says everything abt Coria as a person. Honestly, he's just a simple person, who's really nice, genuine, open and has tons of integrity and determination.

"I really wanted to win, to try to forget everything I have deep inside"

So stfu if you don't know half the thing about him and decide to make stupid arguments that have no EVIDENCE to back it up.





I never said that I was referring to the Finals of the French Open. I watched him plenty of times and thought he was a brat and a crybaby. I use to actually think that he was cool. Who cares if he cried in his press conference. Its not the end of the world and he will have plenty of chances in his lifetime to win.

1. For your #1 and #2, I guess you just ruled out the possibilty that Gaudio stepped up his level of play and Coria choked. Coria had played the least amount of tennis. He only played 17 sets of tennis and had been out on court a little more than one of Gaudio's 5-set matches. Who is most likely to cramp??

2. I could care less for Coria, I'm just making jokes at him because its funny, how people react and how I tie them together soo harmonically. I really wouldn't care if he was real or not.

1. Would you not cry if you had this chance of a LIFETIME; to fufil the dream you had as a kid because of a unfortunate injury?
No, I would be upset, and work harder. Im not even referring to when Coria cried in the press conference when I called him a crybaby

2. DO you guys even know how this grandslam is to him? It's not just a shot for glory, he had something to prove. He had to prove to all the people who shot him down when he was suspended for taking contaminated vitamins. It HAUNTED him and its perfectly human. Coria's a DEEPER, more REAL, emotional person than you think he is. He's GENUINE, at least. Just because he's aggressive on court and because he appears calm and collected doesn't mean he doesn't have emotional turmoil inside. Give him a break. He's 22. He's just a simple kid, almost, with a dream and determination to prove people wrong.

What the hell, I almost fell out of my seat laughing. He doesn't have to prove anything to anybody. What does he have to prove to the people who tried to sabotage, ruin, impair, devastate, and DESTROY his dear life by forcing those contaminated vitamins down his throat. Guillermo was not the victim of a freaking hate crime, like somebody was out to get him. It was his choice to take them, he learned his lesson, and its over. Whats to haunt from? Nobody knows how Coria is, except him. Im determining his character on the way he acts on court.

faboozadoo15
06-08-2004, 06:29 AM
amezquetta, did you see him pump his fist at his friends box when he looked over at gaudio who was pacing on the baseline when he was getting his little massage???
i saw that...

gina_
06-08-2004, 10:45 AM
faboozadoo: have u ever thought that he might be reassuring them or trying to tell them he was gonna fight and play on?

gina_
06-08-2004, 10:50 AM
I never said that I was referring to the Finals of the French Open. I watched him plenty of times and thought he was a brat and a crybaby. I use to actually think that he was cool. Who cares if he cried in his press conference. Its not the end of the world and he will have plenty of chances in his lifetime to win.

1. For your #1 and #2, I guess you just ruled out the possibilty that Gaudio stepped up his level of play and Coria choked. Coria had played the least amount of tennis. He only played 17 sets of tennis and had been out on court a little more than one of Gaudio's 5-set matches. Who is most likely to cramp??

2. I could care less for Coria, I'm just making jokes at him because its funny, how people react and how I tie them together soo harmonically. I really wouldn't care if he was real or not.

1. Would you not cry if you had this chance of a LIFETIME; to fufil the dream you had as a kid because of a unfortunate injury?
No, I would be upset, and work harder. Im not even referring to when Coria cried in the press conference when I called him a crybaby

2. DO you guys even know how this grandslam is to him? It's not just a shot for glory, he had something to prove. He had to prove to all the people who shot him down when he was suspended for taking contaminated vitamins. It HAUNTED him and its perfectly human. Coria's a DEEPER, more REAL, emotional person than you think he is. He's GENUINE, at least. Just because he's aggressive on court and because he appears calm and collected doesn't mean he doesn't have emotional turmoil inside. Give him a break. He's 22. He's just a simple kid, almost, with a dream and determination to prove people wrong.

What the hell, I almost fell out of my seat laughing. He doesn't have to prove anything to anybody. What does he have to prove to the people who tried to sabotage, ruin, impair, devastate, and DESTROY his dear life by forcing those contaminated vitamins down his throat. Guillermo was not the victim of a freaking hate crime, like somebody was out to get him. It was his choice to take them, he learned his lesson, and its over. Whats to haunt from? Nobody knows how Coria is, except him. Im determining his character on the way he acts on court.

About the doping and the haunting; IT CAME FROM CORIA HIMSELF; and since you say nobody knows how coria is except him; you have your answer here. And if you bothered to read, guille doesn't mean people who made him take the vitamins; its more like the people who gunned him down. Go read the damn postmatch interview, pls.

and everybody's body is different; there's no such thing as oh; we ran the same amount or maybe even more and how could you cramp and I don't. It just works differently.

Damnit, this is never gonna end. Seriously.

You support your player and I support mine.

~EMiLiTA~
06-08-2004, 12:27 PM
I at first thought he was faking too when the trainer came out and I thought here we go again...poor Gaston, it's like the Godo final all over again...but when I saw Guillermo's expression and how he played after that I find it hard to believe he was faking...who would go to that extend in a grand slam final?? esp the french which is probably the main slam he has a chance of winning...he could hardly serve or run...until the pills started to work that is hehe...but nevertheless, i have gone off guillermo lately...he strikes me as being a dirty kinda player...and a bad loser too...

Action Jackson
06-08-2004, 12:45 PM
I love how there are so many people trying to take away and discredit Gaudio winning the title?

Who was better physically? Yes, it's still important to have a strong physical base. Two, since when has a cramp been deemed as an injury? Cramp is not an injury it's a loss of conditioning and it wasn't Gaudio's fault that anxiety got to Coria and that affected him. Of course the possibility of Gaudio getting stronger and he not making as many errors, and Coria seeing a different Gaudio across the net led to the anxiety which in turn bought on the cramps.

He seemed to be moving quite well in the 5th set and was running down most of the dropshots. I don't doubt that there were cramps involved, but then again he tanked the 4th set to save his energies for the 5th. If the cramp was that bad, then why wasn't he drinking more water at the change of ends? Then again I have very strong views about treatment for cramp and that goes for all players as well.

WyveN
06-08-2004, 01:05 PM
Agree with GWH,
This result did not depend entirely on Coria's choking and "injuries".
We saw how Gaudio outplayed good players in QF and
SF. He began the final playing very nervous tennis, but it was always
obvious that if/when he got his game going and cut out the unforced errors, Coria would face very same tactical problem than Hewitt did - how do you finish the points against someone who has superior attacking topspin game and is not making unforced errors. Gaudio never did cut out his unforced errors on a consistent basis like he did against Hewitt/Nalby yet still managed to pull through.

Action Jackson
06-08-2004, 01:10 PM
It seems some people think Gaudio has only been on the circuit for 1 year and he should be still playing Futures events, with the way some posters are thinking it was some conspiracy that Coria lost.

Very true about the tactics, sure Gaudio made less errors in the 3rd set and the wave helped relax him and his length was very good. I mean Coria did very well to get match points considering Gaudio was so nervous and if anyone was familiar and seen the times he has beaten Moya, Ferrero, and Guga these guys couldn't put him away with better weight of shot than Coria does.

tangerine_dream
06-08-2004, 10:31 PM
Disgusting.

It sucks to see so many hateful threads about one of your favorite players, doesn't it Rebecca? :o

heya
06-09-2004, 01:41 AM
This thread reminds me of GWH's statement that people overreacted about the Rome hotel fire.

sigmagirl91
06-09-2004, 01:45 AM
This thread reminds me of GWH's statement that people overreacted about the Rome hotel fire.

In what way? Details please, for the folks back home...

faboozadoo15
06-09-2004, 01:51 AM
It sucks to see so many hateful threads about one of your favorite players, doesn't it Rebecca? :o
:tape:

ale
06-09-2004, 04:13 AM
George you seem enfatuated with Gaudio...want his address? :)

Action Jackson
06-09-2004, 08:20 AM
George you seem enfatuated with Gaudio...want his address? :)

I am almost hurt by that insult, btw, have you recovered from the loss on Sunday?

Zetlandsk
06-09-2004, 08:28 AM
George you seem enfatuated with Gaudio...want his address? :)

Very intelligent, but have you got selective memory and have forgotten that a certain individual was whining about Coria's loss, couldn't accept defeat and started threads making excuses for Coria? Yes, that's you Ale.

undomiele
06-09-2004, 02:18 PM
Very intelligent, but have you got selective memory and have forgotten that a certain individual was whining about Coria's loss, couldn't accept defeat and started threads making excuses for Coria? Yes, that's you Ale.


Puh-leaze. :rolleyes: Its a forum Zet, Ale can say whatever she wants (as for anybody else who makes a coherent argument) and its not like there aren't ppl who see things her way both here, in the media and elsewhere. Call it whining if you want to, but its not as if Coria bashers aren't masters in the art of moaning and whining as well. Oh how they can whine about Coria!

oxy
06-09-2004, 05:11 PM
u guys still at this??? oh my

Lee
06-10-2004, 12:05 AM
Puh-leaze. :rolleyes: Its a forum Zet, Ale can say whatever she wants (as for anybody else who makes a coherent argument) and its not like there aren't ppl who see things her way both here, in the media and elsewhere. Call it whining if you want to, but its not as if Coria bashers aren't masters in the art of moaning and whining as well. Oh how they can whine about Coria!

The problem is, 3 days after the match, Ale is the only poster here still trying to stir things up with her posts.

alfonsojose
06-10-2004, 12:16 AM
It sucks to see so many hateful threads about one of your favorite players, doesn't it Rebecca? :o

:lol:

MissPovaFan
06-10-2004, 01:44 AM
I totally disagree with anyone who claims Coria faked or over stated his injury - there is no way someone would do that in a French Open Final! Especially Coria who is a great competitor! The main reason I feel Coria deserved the title was the fact that Gaudio severely struggled to finish him (it went to 8-6 for goodness sake!) despite the fact that Coria was only 70% fit at most!

jbone_14
06-10-2004, 04:56 AM
YAY!!! The bitch lost!!! I want to hit that bitch Coria and steal his wife Carla haha :) :) Call Me Carla, I know you want me!!!!

Action Jackson
06-10-2004, 05:46 AM
Puh-leaze. :rolleyes: Its a forum Zet, Ale can say whatever she wants (as for anybody else who makes a coherent argument) and its not like there aren't ppl who see things her way both here, in the media and elsewhere. Call it whining if you want to, but its not as if Coria bashers aren't masters in the art of moaning and whining as well. Oh how they can whine about Coria!

Ok, so you don't see the relation between some of the delusional Coria fans ( not yourself, Rebecca and a few others) and some of the people that are the so-called haters. One feeds off the other that's obvious. If some of the Coria fans didn't think that anything said against their hero is a personal attack and didn't keep making excuses for every loss, then there is the other side who are aware of his past antics, and even if he is injured (this case not because cramp is not an injury) there is always scepticism sometimes too much.

Then again I bet I am such a hater, so anything positive I have said about Coria won't get noticed. Just for you I will say it again I admire Coria's game a lot, his tactical sense is outstanding and so is his anticipation around the court, he doesn't have the power and makes up for it in other ways and that's admirable. I just don't like the other stuff that I have already mentioned.

Just remember who is the RG champion and who is not.

WyveN
06-10-2004, 06:41 AM
The main reason I feel Coria deserved the title was the fact that Gaudio severely struggled to finish him (it went to 8-6 for goodness sake!) despite the fact that Coria was only 70% fit at most!

Gaudio deserved the title because he won a match point and Coria didn't. If anyone struggled to finish the match of it was Coria who began to be outplayed once Gaudio stopped missing the court.

gina_
06-10-2004, 07:39 AM
Well, frankly, I don't think anyone is saying Gaudio doesn't deserve it. It's just if Coria hadn't gotten cramps, things could have been different. That's all.

I'm sure Gaudio himself would have took greater satisfaction in defeating a fully fit opponent rather than one who had cramps.

I mean kudos to the winner because thats tennis sometimes. It's not always on level terms and its not only abt skill/fitness, i mean there are a hundred different factors in deciding a win.

So. Just drop it. Support the players you want to and stop going on and on about haters vs objective fans...because who's to decide who belongs in which category there is such a fine line.

I admit that Coria has his flaws (although in this case, i maintain he didn't fake anything) and well every player does. I just like him. Simple as that, his good points *and* his flaws.

Chloe le Bopper
06-10-2004, 07:42 AM
tangy - find me the last cruel, heartless, hateful thing that I said about Roddick... find me a time that he was in a good deal of physical and mental anguish where I laughed or pointed fingers and criticized him in this manner... find me the last time that I said seeing a grimace on his face made me absolutely giddy.... then you might actually have a point. As for those who quoted you and seemed to think you had one in the first place... how... unfortunate :)

Chloe le Bopper
06-10-2004, 07:44 AM
I admit that Coria has his flaws (although in this case, i maintain he didn't fake anything) and well every player does. I just like him. Simple as that, his good points *and* his flaws.

If you listen to some people around here, rooting for Coria makes you a horrible person.

Than again, some people around here are profoundly stupid and juvenile... and all around digusting human beings, in case I hadn't pointed that out already ;)

tangerine_dream
06-10-2004, 04:48 PM
tangy - find me the last cruel, heartless, hateful thing that I said about Roddick... find me a time that he was in a good deal of physical and mental anguish where I laughed or pointed fingers and criticized him in this manner... find me the last time that I said seeing a grimace on his face made me absolutely giddy.... then you might actually have a point. As for those who quoted you and seemed to think you had one in the first place... how... unfortunate :)

Your silence throughout the hatefests of various other players pretty much condones the behavior. Now suddenly you're furious at all the hate directed towards your beloved Coria. I said to you: it sucks when people do that, doesn't it? Everyone else got my point. You, typically, did not. :p

So sit back and enjoy your Duck Hunting thread (a place that used to be funny and clever but has degenerated into yet another hatefest thread) and be glad no one thought to start a Greasemonkey thread (dedicated to David Nalbandian) or a That Cheatin' Rug Rat thread (dedicated to Coria) All of which would be done in "good fun" of course. :angel:

alfonsojose
11-13-2004, 07:25 PM
Those special times :devil: :p

RPH
11-13-2004, 07:32 PM
Oh great another oppotunity to have a go about Coria :devil: :devil: :woohoo: :yeah:

Well for somebody who was badly 'cramping' in the 4th set he 'recovered' very well :rolleyes:

I hope his 'cramps' and this loss were agony for him :devil: cos he definetly deserved it :) about time his antics wouldn't be able to work :D

Rogiman
11-13-2004, 07:33 PM
Oh great another oppotunity to have a go about Coria :devil: :devil: :woohoo: :yeah:

Well for somebody who was badly 'cramping' in the 4th set he 'recovered' very well :rolleyes:

I hope his 'cramps' and this loss were agony for him :devil: cos he definetly deserved it :) about time his antics wouldn't be able to work :D

RPH :devil:

What a Willy-Hunter have you become...!

Still owe me something' remember...? :mad:

Crazy_Fool
11-13-2004, 07:35 PM
Those special times :devil: :p
Not stirring trouble or anything ;)

RPH
11-13-2004, 07:41 PM
RPH :devil:

What a Willy-Hunter have you become...!

Still owe me something' remember...? :mad:

:devil:

Oh that :o :unsure: Im still unable to give you it :o :angel:

Billabong
11-13-2004, 07:55 PM
lol;)! I remember this thread;)!