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Federer: "I wish the court could be faster - that's how it's supposed to be indoors -

Blondie1985
11-01-2007, 11:45 PM
Yeah, it's rigged, in favour of the pig(rafa), who (again) thanks to the slow court and **ridiculous*** draw will get to the final by beating clowns.

l_mac
11-01-2007, 11:46 PM
Yeah, it's rigged, in favour of the pig(rafag), who (again) thanks to the slow court and **ridiculous*** draw will get to the final by beating clowns.

Thanks for clarifying :hug:

LeChuck
11-01-2007, 11:47 PM
Wow Blondie1985 is on a roll.

Marek.
11-01-2007, 11:48 PM
:help:

adee-gee
11-01-2007, 11:49 PM
Anyone fancy a sour grape?

I thought he wanted the court changed? :lol:

Take your defeat like a man Federer. You're becoming as bad as Ljubicic at accepting a loss.

R.Federer
11-01-2007, 11:49 PM
:haha:

Good one! I thought he picked the court speed aong with Nadal? Alternatively, it just goes to show that that interview with the crazy Frenchie was probably wrong in a few dimensions :aplot:

Blue Heart24
11-01-2007, 11:49 PM
Well said.The surface is a joke.

World Beater
11-01-2007, 11:50 PM
i think federer wants a faster hardcourt. But really this is silly from roger.

this court is no doubt indoor blue clay though

tripb19
11-01-2007, 11:52 PM
Stop making threads you ***************

Bad Religion
11-01-2007, 11:53 PM
:baby: :bigcry: :crying2:

Psichogauchovna
11-01-2007, 11:57 PM
no wonder you are blonde.

Corey Feldman
11-01-2007, 11:58 PM
What to believe anymore? did him and Rafa give diva demands to have this court suited to thier needs or not?

seems weird he'd have that and then still be unhappy about the court.

then again he's always hated the courts here, he was in a right strop after he lost to Henman in 2003.

i hate that they are slowing surfaces down but its not anything we havnt known for the last few years :shrug:

Rafa will be happy coz usually its him moaning about courts being to fast for him :rolleyes: but i'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say the surface wasnt changed because they both 'demanded' it.

Marek.
11-02-2007, 12:01 AM
I thought Fed didn't like the old surface because of the movement, not because of the speed. Nadal's the one that didn't like how it reacted to his shots thus wanting a change.

Eden
11-02-2007, 12:01 AM
Yeah, it's rigged, in favour of the pig(rafag), who (again) thanks to the slow court and **ridiculous*** draw will get to the final by beating clowns.

Have I missed something? Nadal isn't in the final yet ;)

There's really no need for such a thread to find excuses for Rogers loss.
David had always been a tough opponent for him, no matter on which court. He has a great run right now and we have to accept that he was the better player today.

Marek.
11-02-2007, 12:02 AM
Anyone fancy a sour grape?

I thought he wanted the court changed? :lol:

Take your defeat like a man Federer. You're becoming as bad as Ljubicic at accepting a loss.

The interview I listened to he gave full credit to Nalbandian and just slipped in his issue about the court. :shrug:

Not unlike something Nadal would do I might add. :p

Castafiore
11-02-2007, 12:04 AM
I thought Fed didn't like the old surface because of the movement, not because of the speed. Nadal's the one that didn't like how it reacted to his shots thus wanting a change.
According to that GrandChelem source, both wanted a change.

Quite a few players were asked about their wishes for the surface and Nadal and Federer were asked what needed to be done to get them to play in Bercy and the article indicates that they both wanted a change.

Not too sure whether this GrandChelem gives a fair account about what really went on, though.

Neely
11-02-2007, 12:10 AM
Just saying the court could be faster as it is supposed to be indoors... well, he isn't too far from the truth and I would support this statement. And I am against this "let's even more narrow the gap between slowest and fastest surface"-trend anyway. The average claycourt should be very slow and the average grasscourt or carpet should be sizzling fast.

Marek.
11-02-2007, 12:12 AM
According to that GrandChelem source, both wanted a change.

Quite a few players were asked about their wishes for the surface and Nadal and Federer were asked what needed to be done to get them to play in Bercy and the article indicates that they both wanted a change.

Not too sure whether this GrandChelem gives a fair account about what really went on, though.

I knew that they both complained but I thought that Fed only complained about the surface not being great for movement. I don't remember him complaining about the speed or anything.

scoobs
11-02-2007, 12:12 AM
Boo. Hoo.

*Viva Chile*
11-02-2007, 12:14 AM
Wow Blondie1985 is on a roll.

Agree, someone wants a WC for the ACC it seems :yawn:

adee-gee
11-02-2007, 12:14 AM
I thought Fed didn't like the old surface because of the movement, not because of the speed. Nadal's the one that didn't like how it reacted to his shots thus wanting a change.

Federer never plays Paris, maybe he should've given the old surface a try before demanding it was changed ;)

l_mac
11-02-2007, 12:15 AM
I knew that they both complained but I thought that Fed only complained about the surface not being great for movement. I don't remember him complaining about the speed or anything.


Did they actually complain? Didn't the Tournament Director approach them (and other players) to discuss what would enourage them to play Paris this year? Nadal said the surface was playing slow, so it must be s-l-o-o-o-o-o-w.

scoobs
11-02-2007, 12:15 AM
Roger I love you but you're turning into such a whiny bitch when you lose.

Desist.

bokehlicious
11-02-2007, 12:17 AM
Federer never plays Paris, maybe he should've given the old surface a try before demanding it was changed ;)

If you didn't start following the sport in 05 you wouldn't be clueless on the matter... :kiss: :D :wavey:

RickDaStick
11-02-2007, 12:17 AM
Of course the court is slow. You must be blind if you dont think so. Look at Ljubo, he was hitting 20-30 aces in all his other indoor matches this fall and in Paris i believe he had 4.

Marek.
11-02-2007, 12:20 AM
Federer never plays Paris, maybe he should've given the old surface a try before demanding it was changed ;)

:lol: Touché :hatoff:

Did they actually complain? Didn't the Tournament Director approach them (and other players) to discuss what would enourage them to play Paris this year? Nadal said the surface was playing slow, so it must be s-l-o-o-o-o-o-w.

I don't know what exactly happened, I just know that those two explained what they didn't like about the surface. Some people were saying at first that they gave ultimatums and now I'm hearing that the tournament staff approached them so I don't really know what to believe. :lol: :sad: :confused:

adee-gee
11-02-2007, 12:34 AM
If you didn't start following the sport in 05 you wouldn't be clueless on the matter... :kiss: :D :wavey:
:lol: :kiss: you really will defend him for anything won't you? It's admirable :hug:
Of course the court is slow. You must be blind if you dont think so. Look at Ljubo, he was hitting 20-30 aces in all his other indoor matches this fall and in Paris i believe he had 4.
I'm not arguing with the fact the court is slow, personally I hate the court. But I didn't ask for it to be changed.

bokehlicious
11-02-2007, 12:36 AM
:lol: :kiss: you really will defend him for anything won't you? It's admirable :hug:


As long as you'll bash him for anything I guess :p :hug:

adee-gee
11-02-2007, 12:41 AM
As long as you'll bash him for anything I guess :p :hug:
:hatoff: :cool:

Nadalfanatic
11-02-2007, 12:45 AM
Man these type of courts are definitely rejuvenating Nadal. He is slowly getting his rhythm back. Federer should stop crying as he said the day before he liked the courts. He just has problems with Nalbandian.

hiperborejac
11-02-2007, 12:50 AM
Obviously surface set up to Nadal :eek:

Merton
11-02-2007, 02:19 AM
Sadly it is too late for the thread starter to make it in a certain prestigious competition. :(

Rafa = Fed Killa
11-02-2007, 02:31 AM
What a pansy Federer is.

Stop crying and man up.

Nalby is a better player and you wouldnt have won any of your tainted Grand Slams if Nalby tried.

Corey Feldman
11-02-2007, 02:38 AM
:haha: :haha: :worship:

Kolya
11-02-2007, 02:56 AM
Its like saying "I wish clay could be grass at RG".

:p

Sunset of Age
11-02-2007, 03:28 AM
Roger I love you but you're turning into such a whiny bitch when you lose.

Desist.


Indeed. Where areth thou Rogelio that I loveth for some ten years past, or even more? :(

Nah, stilll love the guy. I'm quite the faithfull kind. :angel:

FedFan_2007
11-02-2007, 05:10 AM
Pfffft. Roger will rebound and win The Cup in st8 sets!

Wannabeknowitall
11-02-2007, 05:18 AM
Federer gave a set up to Karlovic.
If he can adjust to the slower surface than surely Federer can too.

I mean if anything he should be saying that he got a tough draw, wasn't 100% prepared to play his best and Nalbandian took full advantage of that.

danton
11-02-2007, 01:51 PM
BBC article pasted below - i'm a bit confused we had a big thread about Fed demanding the surface change so what happened?

Beaten Federer unhappy with court

Federer lost to Nalbandian for the second time in 11 days
Roger Federer was unhappy with the pace of the indoor court after defeat by David Nalbandian at the Paris Masters.
In-form Nalbandian took a thrilling match 6-4 7-6 (7-3) for his second victory over the world number one in less than two weeks.

Federer praised the Argentine's "phenomenal" backhand but admitted his frustration with the playing surface.

"I wish conditions were a bit faster because indoors is supposed to be fast," he said. "Not here, I guess."

Nalbandian said: "Well, it's different. Over there (in Madrid) it's a little faster."

He's got a phenomenal backhand and can dictate play from both sides

Federer on Nalbandian

World number 21 Nalbandian beat Federer at the Madrid Masters 11 days ago and made a superb start in Paris, opening up a 5-2 lead as he dictated from the baseline.

Federer battled on and saved five set points, recovering one break, before Nalbandian finally sealed the set with a cross-court forehand.

A straight-sets win looked on the cards when the Argentine served for the match at 5-4 in the second but Federer showed his class with a swift break back.

But it was only a momentary stay of execution as Nalbandian swept through the tie-break, converting his second match point to take his career record against the Swiss to 8-8.

"Federer's the number one in the world," said Nalbandian. "You always have to be at 100%. I was, just like in Madrid."

Federer admitted: "It's not easy being aggressive against him when you're three metres behind the baseline.

"He's got a phenomenal backhand and can dictate play from both sides."

Nalbandian goes on to face Spain's David Ferrer in the quarter-finals.

Horatio Caine
11-02-2007, 01:54 PM
I'm confused...I thought he wanted the surface changed. :cuckoo:

Naide
11-02-2007, 01:56 PM
So what, did you make us a favor by finally showing up at Bercy?
Enough complaining, next year skip it as usual and that's it.

I'm fed up with these two princesses thinking they can have whatever they want because they are 1 & 2.

Truc
11-02-2007, 02:00 PM
BBC article pasted below - i'm a bit confused we had a big thread about Fed demanding the surface change so what happened?He did demand the surface change according to the tournament directors, Caujolle says again in L'Équipe today that Fed was not happy with the old surface and that's why he didn't want to play Bercy before (« Federer me l’a encore répété hier (mercredi), la vraie raison de sa présence ici cette année, c’est la nouvelle surface de jeu. »).

But apparently he doesn't like the new one too much either. ^^

Truc
11-02-2007, 02:01 PM
According to that GrandChelem source, both wanted a change.

Quite a few players were asked about their wishes for the surface and Nadal and Federer were asked what needed to be done to get them to play in Bercy and the article indicates that they both wanted a change.

Not too sure whether this GrandChelem gives a fair account about what really went on, though.The story was not just on GrandChelem, Caujolle and Bachelot told exactly the same stuff to other French newspapers last week, there was especially a long article in l'Équipe. Always pointing out that they asked many players and that Fed and Nadal wanted a surface change.

stebs
11-02-2007, 02:08 PM
I'm confused...I thought he wanted the surface changed. :cuckoo:

He had criticised the Paris courts as being bad for balance but people complain about surfaces all the time, I doubt he expected them to actually go ahead and change the court because he criticised it.

I think it is whining to a certain extent but at the same time he was very comlimentary toward Nalbandian as well. I think he is irritated with the court speed fairly justly, I know some don't like it but there really should be some AMS courts which are very quick and that's regardless of Federer by the way, Nalbandian probably would've beaten him on a quicker court too. I just think it is better and that diversity of tennis is one of the main attractions.

Beforehand
11-02-2007, 02:21 PM
Roger I love you but you're turning into such a whiny bitch when you lose.

Desist.
Indeed.

Roger is a DI-VA.

danton
11-02-2007, 02:23 PM
Bless him - he's stil not used to losing despite having had quite a bit of practice this year. Perhaps someone can get him book for Xmas - The Art of Losing Gracefully

scoobs
11-02-2007, 02:25 PM
He had criticised the Paris courts as being bad for balance but people complain about surfaces all the time, I doubt he expected them to actually go ahead and change the court because he criticised it.

I think it is whining to a certain extent but at the same time he was very comlimentary toward Nalbandian as well. I think he is irritated with the court speed fairly justly, I know some don't like it but there really should be some AMS courts which are very quick and that's regardless of Federer by the way, Nalbandian probably would've beaten him on a quicker court too. I just think it is better and that diversity of tennis is one of the main attractions.
I can't believe he didn't know they weren't changing the surface - players were testing it out during RG. He didn't, I don't think, but I'd be amazed if he had no idea all this was going on.

stebs
11-02-2007, 02:33 PM
I can't believe he didn't know they weren't changing the surface - players were testing it out during RG. He didn't, I don't think, but I'd be amazed if he had no idea all this was going on.

I'm sure he did know this was going on but at the same time I doubt when he made the comments about the court he expected it to happen.

Castafiore
11-02-2007, 02:38 PM
Merci, Truc. I only read the GrandChelem article.

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I find it very hard to believe that Federer or Nadal did not know that they were trying to change the surface in order to try and get a better playing field to Bercy.
In the article I read and as I understand it - like scoobsuk indicates as well - they not only asked the opinion of various players but asked a couple of players (Nalbandian, Roddick, Gasquet were part of the test team) to test the changed surface out.
Moya was asked in particular to test it as well- says the article - because he knows Nadal's playing style (in the article, Caujolle (TD) called Moya Nadal's tinkerbell, by the way :cool: ).
The initial change was not approved by those testplayers. They figured that the first attempt at a new surface responded well to effects but was too fast. So Gerflor adapted it some more and that's the surface we're seeing.


Federer seems to have wanted it to be less sticky and Nadal wanted the surface to take his effects better. It's a compromise by the looks of it.
Less sticky, slower.

Corey Feldman
11-02-2007, 02:42 PM
haha Moya Rafa's tinkerbell

:D

Byrd
11-02-2007, 04:41 PM
This court is a pile of shit, Rafa probably spray painted it blue to suit his game, balls bouncing upto players shoulders, joke.

TheBoiledEgg
11-02-2007, 04:47 PM
someone better ask for a Minsk ice rink
these slow courts are :zzz:

Sunset of Age
11-02-2007, 04:52 PM
Did they actually complain? Didn't the Tournament Director approach them (and other players) to discuss what would enourage them to play Paris this year? Nadal said the surface was playing slow, so it must be s-l-o-o-o-o-o-w.

I see the subtle difference between 'demanding' and 'being asked' is slowly but steadily getting lost, here...

Indeed Roger complained about the surface (:baby: :baby: :baby:) but it should also be pointed out that Roger was actually very gracious in his loss towards Nalby - he gave him the full credit for being the better player.