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Hola Mr. SK
11-01-2007, 10:09 PM
This time in straight sets :wavey:

Fed: 18 Winners 23 Unforced Errors
Dave: 28 Winners 25 Unforced Errors
Bandy also out aced Fed 6-4!
:wavey:

Best performance by David in the early 1st set to get a 5-2 lead. He's taking advantage of Fed's 2nd serve on every possible occation with his backhand,making great returns. :worship:

Fantastic match by two players and brilliant show from David:yeah:

Welcome to Shanghai,Roger :D

General Suburbia
11-01-2007, 10:09 PM
Lol

Edit: oops. LOL again.

dijus
11-01-2007, 10:09 PM
bamoooooooooooos

rocketassist
11-01-2007, 10:10 PM
Great performance from Fat Dave. :worship:

Murray or Gasquet can now make the final, especially if Pics frustrates Dave in the next round.

scarecrows
11-01-2007, 10:10 PM
great stuff Dave :worship:

get some rest Fed and prepare TMC, 3 weeks in a row is too much for your old legs ;)

David Kenzie
11-01-2007, 10:10 PM
Well done David.
Fed will have time to rest for Shangai now.

ShimSham
11-01-2007, 10:10 PM
Well Done Nalby! Shame he's not going to Shanghi!

ASP0315
11-01-2007, 10:10 PM
expected win by nalbandian.

He is master at playing roger. :hatsoff:

Allegretto
11-01-2007, 10:10 PM
Brilliant from Fit Dave. Fantastic match. :)

leng jai
11-01-2007, 10:10 PM
Mug it up Federer. 1 backhand winner for the whole match. Sexy.

Five
11-01-2007, 10:10 PM
OMG:woohoo:

Halba
11-01-2007, 10:10 PM
hahahaha!!

apart from some choking in the 2nd set, nalby was TERRIFIC in the 1st set.

trixtah
11-01-2007, 10:10 PM
So where have all the "ohh Roger is coming for Revenge 6-0 6-0" comments now :D

sodman12
11-01-2007, 10:10 PM
comeon David!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! take the title

KoOlMaNsEaN
11-01-2007, 10:11 PM
The reign of Fed is over

marcRD
11-01-2007, 10:11 PM
Nalby could be Federers greatest rival if he gets things together.

prima donna
11-01-2007, 10:11 PM
Completely insignificant.

tennisgal_001
11-01-2007, 10:11 PM
Federer is lucky Nalbandian is not going to Shanghai, he completely dominated him today.

richie21
11-01-2007, 10:11 PM
Possibly the best performance by a guy who has beaten Federer since Safin's win in the AO 05.
If you except the end of the first set,Nalbandian was just AWESOME in that match :eek:

Enjoy Incubus
11-01-2007, 10:11 PM
Just lucky... he will lose 60 63 the next time :haha:
David!!! YOU ARGIE LEGEND!!!! :D

Regenbogen
11-01-2007, 10:11 PM
Great match from Nalbandian, but it was disappointing to see Roger not improve anything from Madrid.

cocopops
11-01-2007, 10:11 PM
Federer crying yet?

Spes
11-01-2007, 10:11 PM
dayum. vamos dahveeed. so happy! :hearts:

the draw is wide open to make the final buddy! vamos do it!

Greenday
11-01-2007, 10:12 PM
Federer was very slow.....understandable after 2-3 weeks of play....but he did watever he can do to win the match........nalbandian made federer run from left to right and tht was enough

missvarsha
11-01-2007, 10:12 PM
Another title in Paris for Piggy !

Fed Express
11-01-2007, 10:12 PM
The reign of Fed is over

:haha:

Allstar
11-01-2007, 10:12 PM
Rubbish match, error fest. Fed shattered and Bandy far from his best.

ASP0315
11-01-2007, 10:12 PM
i'm waiting for federer tanked comments :lol:

bokehlicious
11-01-2007, 10:12 PM
Never in doubt. Expect fat Dave to tank tomorrow...

krystlel
11-01-2007, 10:12 PM
Nalbandian was brilliant in that first set especially.

Hope he can get past Ferrer in the next round.

Tommy fan
11-01-2007, 10:12 PM
Expected but well done David!!!! 2 in a row.. "The Fed slayer"! :devil:

Vamos! :worship:

DrJules
11-01-2007, 10:12 PM
Federer is lucky Nalbandian is not going to Shanghai, he completely dominated him today.

7 players are.

nanoman
11-01-2007, 10:12 PM
Nalby again outplayed Fed. Even has got enough of a margin for a choke.

As for Fed, he need a new tactic to beat this new FitDave. This one has a serve and won't surrender his service games so easily anymore.

Metis
11-01-2007, 10:13 PM
David!!!!!!! What a performance! :worship: :worship: :worship:

Viken01
11-01-2007, 10:13 PM
VAMOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS DAVIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD YOU ARE THE BEST !!!!!!! VAMOsSS !!!!

yana
11-01-2007, 10:13 PM
Fat and sexy David, way to go!
I only wish I could see the match...and Mirkaboy's look hi,hi

richie21
11-01-2007, 10:13 PM
The reign of Fed is over

not really.
Nalby needed to play the match of his life to win tonight

musefanatic
11-01-2007, 10:13 PM
Doesn't really mean anything to Fed, it's not the Masters Cup or a grandslam so i don't think he's all that bothered about titles like this.

Tomy
11-01-2007, 10:13 PM
INCREDIBLE performance by David! He is fit now, and he is showing it. The next match against Fed will be amazing cause they are now tied in the H2H (8-8). VAMOS!

Kitty de Sade
11-01-2007, 10:13 PM
Big congrats to Nalby- good luck the rest of the way. :yeah:

freeandlonely
11-01-2007, 10:14 PM
:bounce: :clap2:
Some points and angels are:hearts:

MatchFederer
11-01-2007, 10:14 PM
Is there a vomit emoticon...

Go on and win the tournament Nalbandian.

richie21
11-01-2007, 10:14 PM
Rubbish match, error fest. Fed shattered and Bandy far from his best.


:eek: :eek: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

allblue
11-01-2007, 10:14 PM
OMG!!!!!!!! Donut Dave you crack me up!!!!!!!!! :bigclap: :bigclap:

r2473
11-01-2007, 10:14 PM
expected win by nalbandian.

He is master at playing roger. :hatsoff:

Expected result.
Never in doubt.
Fixed.
Clown Era.

Marek.
11-01-2007, 10:14 PM
Didn't see the match but from the sounds of it, David outplayed Fed again. Hopefully he can pick up another title here and complete the indoor double.

Naide
11-01-2007, 10:14 PM
Can't wait to read Fedfan saying Federer is finished.

Blah Roger what's going on?

Mechlan
11-01-2007, 10:14 PM
Well played Nalbandian. :yeah:

Looks like Murray/Gasquet's chances to make the TMC just went up.

Lunaris
11-01-2007, 10:14 PM
Congrats David, I am terrified about this win. First 6 games in 1st set were of such a high quality. Shame he's had such a bad season and can't participate at the TMC. He would be a worthy addition.

RogiRafaFan86
11-01-2007, 10:14 PM
As much as I love Roger, just like Madrid I'm so happy for Dave. When he couldn't serve out the match I thought it was over, the Nalby of much of '07 was back. But he held his nerve and got it done. With some help from Roger, of course. I don't what all happened there.

Congrats Nalby!:worship:

ChrisDoesDallas
11-01-2007, 10:15 PM
That was an incredible match. I think I died several times over. :o

David I am so happy :sobbing: plz beat pics ferrer plz plz plz :sobbing:

dylan24
11-01-2007, 10:15 PM
no surprise at all.
federer didn't care about this match.
no way he was going to win this tournament.
nice of roger to put in an effort unlike novak.

now take this fucking title bandy
and pleae **** nadal again
in the final like you did in madrid

Bascule
11-01-2007, 10:15 PM
He did it again!
I wonder what will happen in Shangai (without Nalby, eeeh), anyway?!

Apemant
11-01-2007, 10:15 PM
Federer played very good, I didn't see him playing any better since AO 07 - and David still won. :worship:

Except for that choke while serving for the match (and serving for the 1st set 1st time) he was nearly flawless. It looked as there was nothing Fed could do; even his best serves were coming back with interest. And even though he did win a fair share of incredibly intense rallies, Nalbandian obviously had the edge.

Now when someone asks for a definition of 'talent', just look at David in this match :devil: There you go, playing mediocre the whole year and then all of a sudden he dispatches #1 with authority twice, as if it was an expected result. You don't do that if your talent isn't out of this world.

OrinUK
11-01-2007, 10:15 PM
Great game. Fed should take this on board in the future. At least he got $1.5 million for two days work.

Dave was really fun to watch today.

richie21
11-01-2007, 10:15 PM
7 players are.

+100000

Denaon
11-01-2007, 10:15 PM
:banana: :rocker:

Well done David....such a pity I could not watch the match :mad:

:aparty:

ShimSham
11-01-2007, 10:15 PM
Rubbish match, error fest. Fed shattered and Bandy far from his best.
I think either you were watching a different match from the rest of us, or you need to get your eyes tested! :rolleyes:

Il Primo Uomo
11-01-2007, 10:15 PM
Dav's bitch one day, he rapes you everyday!
Way to go david.
And hum... Fed don't be scared, he can't quelify for Shangai.

Greenday
11-01-2007, 10:15 PM
Federer is lucky Nalbandian is not going to Shanghai, he completely dominated him today.

Well..this is totally insignificant...u can say tht when nalbandian defeats roger in a grandslam match......give this guy a break he is playing in his 3rd straight week........he made finals of both madrid and basel....he is not a machine....nalbandian is no joke either

foul_dwimmerlaik
11-01-2007, 10:16 PM
Gorgeous, gorgeous tennis. Spins, angles, power, you name it - it was all right there in this match. Unbeliveable.

I'm sure the Fed is thanking his lucky stars that Nalby won't go to Shanghai.

Mike Kim
11-01-2007, 10:16 PM
Federer well and truly outplayed, in all aspects. He was completely destroyed, and should have lost 6-4 6-4 in all honesty. Nalbandian ripped him apart off the return, and then bullied him from then on moving him all over the place and made Fed look a lightweight (we all knew that backhand was, and it was shown tonight, only one winner all night?). Nice to see Nalbandian employing a more aggressive outlook compared to a few years ago, and it shows just how good he is when playing that style, being able to bully that swiss :D

Argenbrit
11-01-2007, 10:17 PM
David. :worship:

So where have all the "ohh Roger is coming for Revenge 6-0 6-0" comments now :D

:lol:

scoobs
11-01-2007, 10:17 PM
Too good from David again today.

Federer briefly showed some fighting spirit to stop the slide to defeat at the end of the second but in the tiebreak his balls shrivelled up again and David had it in the bag.

When David is that sharp, though, it's very tough to find answers.

IF, and that's a big if, David really has got his head in gear now and wants to finally capitalise on all that undoubted potential he has, 2008 could be a torrid season for Federer - and the rest of the tour.

In fact I make a prediction - if there's one guy who could beat Federer in a Grand Slam before the finals at the moment, it's David Nalbandian. Woe betide Roger if they meet in Australia and Roger hasn't done some serious thinking about how to combat what David brings.

David is doing what he usually does - but better - and serving better - and it's enough to make a huge difference.

Goonergal
11-01-2007, 10:17 PM
I'm sure the Fed is thanking his lucky stars that Nalby won't go to Shanghai.

That's the first thing I thought :lol:

Nal :rocker2:

FedererSlam
11-01-2007, 10:18 PM
My excuses are:
-Federer was tired
-He tanked it
-His mind was still on the water sprinkler
-He was thinking of Shanghai
-It's only one AMC
-He got all that money anyway

richie21
11-01-2007, 10:18 PM
no surprise at all.
federer didn't care about this match.
no way he was going to win this tournament.
nice of roger to put in an effort unlike novak.

now take this fucking title bandy
and pleae **** nadal again
in the final like you did in madrid


I actually think he cared.
Mind you,he didn't play better in the last US OPEN for example than in today's match.

Marek.
11-01-2007, 10:18 PM
Some people have been saying that Nalby is a big threat to Roger. He's a threat to EVERYONE when he's playing his best.

Bascule
11-01-2007, 10:18 PM
7 players are.

:haha:
Paranoya in Las Shangai, anyway...

MatchFederer
11-01-2007, 10:19 PM
Federer played very good, I didn't see him playing any better since AO 07 - and David still won. :worship:

Except for that choke while serving for the match (and serving for the 1st set 1st time) he was nearly flawless. It looked as there was nothing Fed could do; even his best serves were coming back with interest. And even though he did win a fair share of incredibly intense rallies, Nalbandian obviously had the edge.

Now when someone asks for a definition of 'talent', just look at David in this match :devil: There you go, playing mediocre the whole year and then all of a sudden he dispatches #1 with authority twice, as if it was an expected result. You don't do that if your talent isn't out of this world.

Come on now... Federer was pretty good but his forehand wasn't a potent weapon like it has been at other times during the season and his backhand was just sort of standard Federer level. He wasn't serving that big either.. he played fairly well but he produced better tennis at the US Open, definitely.

Still, Federer played pretty well but got outplayed.

richie21
11-01-2007, 10:19 PM
Federer played very good, I didn't see him playing any better since AO 07 - and David still won. :worship:

Except for that choke while serving for the match (and serving for the 1st set 1st time) he was nearly flawless. It looked as there was nothing Fed could do; even his best serves were coming back with interest. And even though he did win a fair share of incredibly intense rallies, Nalbandian obviously had the edge.

Now when someone asks for a definition of 'talent', just look at David in this match :devil: There you go, playing mediocre the whole year and then all of a sudden he dispatches #1 with authority twice, as if it was an expected result. You don't do that if your talent isn't out of this world.


I wouldn't go that far......but anyway he certainly didn't play bad

Greenday
11-01-2007, 10:19 PM
The thing I like abt roger is his effort.........he is playing in 3rd straight week and still did watevr he can do to win the match unlike so called young guns who cant put together two straight weeks.......I guess its better for roger to lose to nalby than to loose to murray or gasquet or nadal....tht will give them confidence.....

Sakura 0101
11-01-2007, 10:20 PM
David :bigclap:

Roger, i know you were very tired. :hug:
take a rest and best luck to Shanghai. :yeah:

Jimnik
11-01-2007, 10:20 PM
Never in doubt.

Mateya
11-01-2007, 10:20 PM
:spit: :spit: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :champagne:

:worship: NALBY, I love you :worship:


I am now really afraid for Federer...he is not like he used to be. Yes, he lost to Canas two times too in the spring, but now it looks a bit different altogether.
However, AO 2008 will tell us more about him and his "genius" game . :unsure:

dylan24
11-01-2007, 10:20 PM
I actually think he cared.
Mind you,he didn't play better in the last US OPEN for example than in today's match.

he did care a bit. but, he didn't seem to be that upset walking off the court.

scarecrows
11-01-2007, 10:20 PM
Embarassing loss, Federer should go play challengers.



maybe

Corey Feldman
11-01-2007, 10:21 PM
I thought Fed would show some pride in this one, but he didnt. :sad:

just got owned by a better indoor player and a far better player mentally than himself ... 3 weeks of tennis in a row is no excuse, Roger has always been a total mental midget in tight matches Vs Nalbandian and nothing changes, he still has that 'feeling sorry for myself' look on his face when he's losing.

WD for playing your bitch role so well again Fedexho :o

now Dave has to try and beat 'his bitch role' against Ferrer :lol:

Nalbandian will be a far tougher Semi for Muzza if they make it than Rog would have been, so i cant even be happy that way :banghead:

Apemant
11-01-2007, 10:21 PM
Federer well and truly outplayed, in all aspects. He was completely destroyed, and should have lost 6-4 6-4 in all honesty. Nalbandian ripped him apart off the return, and then bullied him from then on moving him all over the place and made Fed look a lightweight (we all knew that backhand was, and it was shown tonight, only one winner all night?). Nice to see Nalbandian employing a more aggressive outlook compared to a few years ago, and it shows just how good he is when playing that style, being able to bully that swiss :D

Nope, he didn't destroy Fed. If that was the case, someone could just say that Roger tanked. No, the match was tight and could've gone either way; but David was simply better. Enough even to afford some mini chokes at the end of both sets.

Some of the angles were just phenomenal from both of them, on both wings. :worship:

Fee
11-01-2007, 10:21 PM
Congrats Roger, Oscar worthy performance. Now get to Shanghai. Try not to spend that 1.5 mil all in one place.

Excellent tennis from Nalbandian and I hope he gets motivated and comes back into the mix for all of next season. Tennis will benefit greatly with him in the Top20/Top10.

tripb19
11-01-2007, 10:21 PM
Well done, the angles are back!

Nalby didn't serve as well as Madrid. 1st set was awesome from Dave, 2nd not so good, but good to see he didn't lose the set point Fed had against him like he would have in the past.

ezekiel
11-01-2007, 10:21 PM
expected, RF can't win in a french city to save his life and Nalby just owns him in strokes when it comes down to it .

richie21
11-01-2007, 10:22 PM
Federer well and truly outplayed, in all aspects. He was completely destroyed, and should have lost 6-4 6-4 in all honesty. Nalbandian ripped him apart off the return, and then bullied him from then on moving him all over the place and made Fed look a lightweight (we all knew that backhand was, and it was shown tonight, only one winner all night?). Nice to see Nalbandian employing a more aggressive outlook compared to a few years ago, and it shows just how good he is when playing that style, being able to bully that swiss :D


That's the key factor i think.
Nalbandian is probably the only player on the tour who is capable of reading Fed's serve.
He was all over Fed's serves(and not only his second serves)

ufokart
11-01-2007, 10:22 PM
David :bounce: :bounce:

Well done :yeah:

Now win this friggin thing and go to Shangai as an alternate :rocker2: :rolls:

mangoes
11-01-2007, 10:23 PM
Congrats Nalby:D

Roger:rolleyes: :hug:



Gasquet better make it out of that half of the draw or I will be disappointed...

cmurray
11-01-2007, 10:23 PM
That match was not as sloppy as the statistics indicate. I admit that I'd forgotten how good David is. He really had Federer on the ropes for most of the match. It isn't just anyone that can do that.

Anyway, I enjoyed that match quite a bit. Well done to both men.

scoobs
11-01-2007, 10:23 PM
They key factor here was return.

David was ripping the return, Federer was chipping or slicing or blocking most of his back off his backhand wing. That let David get aggressive off the second shot and his control right now is unbelievable so he has Roger on the back foot right from the start of a rally.

Apemant
11-01-2007, 10:25 PM
Come on now... Federer was pretty good but his forehand wasn't a potent weapon like it has been at other times during the season and his backhand was just sort of standard Federer level. He wasn't serving that big either.. he played fairly well but he produced better tennis at the US Open, definitely.

Still, Federer played pretty well but got outplayed.

Well, I didn't watch all his matches since AO 07, but for example, I don't recall a performance in this year's Wimbledon that I would rate above this match, including final. The fact is, Nalbandian playing the way he played today would own just about anyone on the tour; it required some great rallies from Roger to keep the score close. Could've easily been 6-2 6-4 for example.

Which match do you specifically remember Federer playing better, since AO 07?

richie21
11-01-2007, 10:25 PM
The thing I like abt roger is his effort.........he is playing in 3rd straight week and still did watevr he can do to win the match unlike so called young guns who cant put together two straight weeks.......I guess its better for roger to lose to nalby than to loose to murray or gasquet or nadal....tht will give them confidence.....

Completely agree with you :)
Actually ,and even if it's a bit strange to say it considering it's Federer we are talking about,i thought he did pretty well today considering how well Nalbandian played.
It needed a really good player to take more than 6 games to Nalbandian tonigh,so good Nalbandian was.

Enjoy Incubus
11-01-2007, 10:26 PM
Davydenko should retire and give that spot in Shanghai to King David...:rolleyes:

LeChuck
11-01-2007, 10:26 PM
What an awesome result this is :bounce: . Well done to David :worship: . He was the better player today and deserved to win in straight sets, and beating Federer twice within 12 days and levelling their head to head is just awesome :)

Johnny Groove
11-01-2007, 10:28 PM
Nice to see Dave "pulling a Canas" on Fed :D

richie21
11-01-2007, 10:28 PM
Well, I didn't watch all his matches since AO 07, but for example, I don't recall a performance in this year's Wimbledon that I would rate above this match, including final. The fact is, Nalbandian playing the way he played today would own just about anyone on the tour; it required some great rallies from Roger to keep the score close. Could've easily been 6-2 6-4 for example.

Completely agree with you there

l_mac
11-01-2007, 10:29 PM
Doesn't really mean anything to Fed, it's not the Masters Cup or a grandslam so i don't think he's all that bothered about titles like this.

:haha:

Rubbish match, error fest. Fed shattered and Bandy far from his best.

:haha:

My excuses are:
-Federer was tired
-He tanked it
-His mind was still on the water sprinkler
-He was thinking of Shanghai
-It's only one AMC
-He got all that money anyway

:lol: :yeah:

Voo de Mar
11-01-2007, 10:29 PM
Ye4s, Fat Dave becomes a Fit Dave :)

Apemant
11-01-2007, 10:29 PM
They key factor here was return.

David was ripping the return, Federer was chipping or slicing or blocking most of his back off his backhand wing. That let David get aggressive off the second shot and his control right now is unbelievable so he has Roger on the back foot right from the start of a rally.

Precisely, but it's nothing new; Federer always slices returns on his BH side, even 2nd serves. Obviously Nalbandian has a huge advantage there. Earlier though, David had a rather poor 1st serve so even though he used to regularly break Federer, he got broken even more. I really don't understand where he found that new 1st serve of his.

Anyway, if he keeps doing this, if this isn't just a temporary flash of brilliance, I fully expect him to get back to the top where he was a year ago.

Jade Fox
11-01-2007, 10:29 PM
Nice to see Dave "pulling a Canas" on Fed :D

Uh oh. We all know how THAT turned out.:eek:

Don't jinx your boy Jonathan.;)

hope11
11-01-2007, 10:31 PM
Wow, the second Argentine player to give Fed trouble

adee-gee
11-01-2007, 10:31 PM
:haha:

:haha:

:lol: :yeah:

Stop stealing my job :haha: :mad:

Poor Roger :awww:

tangerine_dream
11-01-2007, 10:32 PM
Congrats Roger, Oscar worthy performance. Now get to Shanghai. Try not to spend that 1.5 mil all in one place.
Should we give out Oscars at the end of the year? :lol:

http://s1.tinypic.com/2uh2v7m_th

Seriously, does anyone really think Roger wanted to lose to Nalbandian twice in a row? And risk giving him even more of a mental edge the next time they meet, considering their long history? When Roger loses to a player once he usually puts the hammer down on him the next time, so I am surprised by this result.

Mechlan
11-01-2007, 10:32 PM
I thought Fed would show some pride in this one, but he didnt. :sad:

Nalbandian will be a far tougher Semi for Muzza if they make it than Rog would have been, so i cant even be happy that way :banghead:

Disagree. If we discount form for a minute, it's much easier mentally to take down David than Roger. I like Andy's chances much more now. But if Dave brings his A game, he's of course capable of beating anybody.

spriwi
11-01-2007, 10:32 PM
made a bet on it :angel:

l_mac
11-01-2007, 10:32 PM
Great play from Nalbandian :woohoo:

If Murray and Nalby can carry their current form into next year (with not that many points to defend for either of them) I might finally get a top 5 that I like the look of.

Shabazza
11-01-2007, 10:33 PM
They key factor here was return.

David was ripping the return, Federer was chipping or slicing or blocking most of his back off his backhand wing. That let David get aggressive off the second shot and his control right now is unbelievable so he has Roger on the back foot right from the start of a rally.

Indeed. Nalbandian really knows how to dismantle one of Federers great weapons his first serve - I mean he outaced Federer, who had only 4 aces on a hc. When was the last time he had such a low ace count, while serving a pretty good first serve percentage (esp. in the 2nd)?

freeandlonely
11-01-2007, 10:33 PM
Strangely I am sure David will save the set point.
He gave me a sense of security, probably the first time.
Still some heart attacks, though.

Marek.
11-01-2007, 10:33 PM
Great play from Nalbandian :woohoo:

If Murray and Nalby can carry their current form into next year (with not that many points to defend for either of them) I might finally get a top 5 that I like the look of.

Djokovic will still probably be there. :p

Apemant
11-01-2007, 10:33 PM
Nice to see Dave "pulling a Canas" on Fed :D

Come on. What David did here can't be compared to Canas in any possible way. David has thoroughly outmaneuvered Roger from the baseline, didn't just push the ball back and wait for Roger to self destruct. In no period of those two matches did Roger look like 'owning' David; while in Miami match vs. Canas at one point Canas looked completely helpless, and only the Goddess of luck allowed him to come out with a W. Really, no comparison there whatsoever.

Shabazza
11-01-2007, 10:34 PM
Should we give out Oscars at the end of the year? :lol:

http://s1.tinypic.com/2uh2v7m_th

Seriously, does anyone really think Roger wanted to lose to Nalbandian twice in a row? And risk giving him even more of a mental edge the next time they meet, considering their long history? When Roger loses to a player once he usually puts the hammer down on him the next time, so I am surprised by this result.

I agree, Federer didn't want to lose this match (certainly not in straights).

connectolove
11-01-2007, 10:34 PM
Well, Dave is on a roll. Will he meet with Rafa again???

Johnny Groove
11-01-2007, 10:34 PM
Uh oh. We all know how THAT turned out.:eek:

Don't jinx your boy Jonathan.;)

Hardly the same, love. Hardly the same ;)

Marek.
11-01-2007, 10:34 PM
Come on. What David did here can't be compared to Canas in any possible way. David has thoroughly outmaneuvered Roger from the baseline, didn't just push the ball back and wait for Roger to self destruct. In no period of those two matches did Roger look like 'owning' David; while in Miami match vs. Canas at one point Canas looked completely helpless, and only the Goddess of luck allowed him to come out with a W. Really, no comparison there whatsoever.

:yeah: Completely agree.

Shabazza
11-01-2007, 10:35 PM
Strangely I am sure David will save the set point.

I thought Federer would take it. That's what confidence in your favorite player does to you. ;)

MatchFederer
11-01-2007, 10:35 PM
Well, I didn't watch all his matches since AO 07, but for example, I don't recall a performance in this year's Wimbledon that I would rate above this match, including final. The fact is, Nalbandian playing the way he played today would own just about anyone on the tour; it required some great rallies from Roger to keep the score close. Could've easily been 6-2 6-4 for example.

Which match do you specifically remember Federer playing better, since AO 07?

His weapons and movement were in better working order against Roddick and Davydenko (Yes AND Davydenko) at this years US Open and in numerous matches this year he has been more reliable with at least RETURNING the serves. His stat for services that were unsuccessfully returned was pretty nasty... I think he played better against Canas in Madrid and also probably Lopez in the US Open. That about covers it.

Johnny Groove
11-01-2007, 10:36 PM
Come on. What David did here can't be compared to Canas in any possible way. David has thoroughly outmaneuvered Roger from the baseline, didn't just push the ball back and wait for Roger to self destruct. In no period of those two matches did Roger look like 'owning' David; while in Miami match vs. Canas at one point Canas looked completely helpless, and only the Goddess of luck allowed him to come out with a W. Really, no comparison there whatsoever.

I meant the whole "Non-Nadal player defeating Federer 2wice in a close span of tournaments" :p

I agree on all accounts that it had nothing similar to do. Canas' wins and Dave's wins are completley different.

l_mac
11-01-2007, 10:37 PM
Stop stealing my job :haha: :mad:



:lol:

Seriously, does anyone really think Roger wanted to lose to Nalbandian twice in a row? And risk giving him even more of a mental edge the next time they meet, considering their long history? When Roger loses to a player once he usually puts the hammer down on him the next time, so I am surprised by this result.

Roger was desperate to win this one. Especially considering his pre match comments about Nalby :lol:

Disagree. If we discount form for a minute, it's much easier mentally to take down David than Roger. I like Andy's chances much more now. But if Dave brings his A game, he's of course capable of beating anybody.

I agree with this too. I'm not totally confident Nalby will get through Pics tomorrow.

MatchFederer
11-01-2007, 10:37 PM
Federer looked pretty damn miserable when he was walking off the court, must have felt more like his earlier career when Nalbandian was consistently pounding him. I did not like todays result.

Uhh..

dylan24
11-01-2007, 10:38 PM
Nice to see Dave "pulling a Canas" on Fed :D

don't you worry. he'll do the same to mr nadal on sunday

KitinovRules
11-01-2007, 10:38 PM
. The fact is, Nalbandian playing the way he played today would own just about anyone on the tour;



Not JUST, he will destroy anyone with this kind of perfromance.

Marek.
11-01-2007, 10:38 PM
Bad day for Swiss tennis. Fed and Stan lose and Martina retires. :o

l_mac
11-01-2007, 10:39 PM
Djokovic will still probably be there. :p

We'll see :)

Jade Fox
11-01-2007, 10:40 PM
Hardly the same, love. Hardly the same ;)

I know playing wise, they are not the same. David is a far better player than Canas. But what it could mean in the future, who knows?;)

Corey Feldman
11-01-2007, 10:40 PM
Doesn't really mean anything to Fed, it's not the Masters Cup or a grandslam so i don't think he's all that bothered about titles like this.True

Grand Slams aside, sometimes i wonder if he's gone backward this year or other players have caught up

1 BH winner in the match, ufff

And he should be bothered about being mentally owned by certain opponents..
he showed no pride and just accepted it :( , tired or not

you better show pride and fight in Shanghai Fed, at least Nalb - No.1 indoor player - wont be there.

Apemant
11-01-2007, 10:42 PM
His weapons and movement were in better working order against Roddick and Davydenko (Yes AND Davydenko) at this years US Open and in numerous matches this year he has been more reliable with at least RETURNING the serves. His stat for services that were unsuccessfully returned was pretty nasty... I think he played better against Canas in Madrid and also probably Lopez in the US Open. That about covers it.

Those matches are somewhat skewed by the limitations of his opponents. Lopez has no BH to speak of, Canas has no game at all (and couldn't run as much as in Miami, so no wonder he got thrashed).

I'm not saying this is the absolute best Federer can play, but it didn't look as if he self-destructed AT ALL; an impression I have more often than not when he loses. No, this was fair and square beating and it doesn't happen every day - more like once/twice a year.

Johnny Groove
11-01-2007, 10:42 PM
don't you worry. he'll do the same to mr nadal on sunday

I dont even know if Nadal can make it to the final :help:

RonE
11-01-2007, 10:43 PM
Dave :yeah:

Now go on to win the title capping the week off with another tasty portion of pork :devil:

Roger, rest up and get ready for Shanghai.

justClaudia
11-01-2007, 10:44 PM
brilliant. :banana:


Just keep going, Dahveeed.

l_mac
11-01-2007, 10:45 PM
Dave :yeah:

Now go on to win the title capping the week off with another tasty portion of pork :devil:




You want Rafa to get to the Final?? :hug: You're a sweetie.

allblue
11-01-2007, 10:46 PM
Come on. What David did here can't be compared to Canas in any possible way. David has thoroughly outmaneuvered Roger from the baseline, didn't just push the ball back and wait for Roger to self destruct. In no period of those two matches did Roger look like 'owning' David; while in Miami match vs. Canas at one point Canas looked completely helpless, and only the Goddess of luck allowed him to come out with a W. Really, no comparison there whatsoever.

David played magnificent tennis today, but that doesn't mean Canas defeating Fed twice in a row earlier this year was any less impressive. They simply have different ways to outplay Fed, so, whatever works in the end. I watched the match between Fed and Willy but didn't perceive him as "helpless" at any point.

shotgun
11-01-2007, 10:46 PM
Masterful display by Nalbandian. The rest of the week will be a real test for his consistence. The "indoor double" would look very nice on his record.

Fourth defeat suffered by Federer this year against an Argie, eight in total. :eek: This is surely his worst season since 2003, dominance-wise.

Paris-Bercy remains being one of the three TMS events Federer never won.

Marek.
11-01-2007, 10:46 PM
We'll see :)

Starting next year, Djokovic will be number one for a decade straight. Didn't you get the memo?

Corey Feldman
11-01-2007, 10:47 PM
They key factor here was return.

David was ripping the return, Federer was chipping or slicing or blocking most of his back off his backhand wing. That let David get aggressive off the second shot and his control right now is unbelievable so he has Roger on the back foot right from the start of a rally.Yep..

and what did he say after the Madrid Final?

"i wasnt aggresive, i let him dictate the points"

fix your head Roger :rolleyes:

wow 120+ posts all fitted into one page on my screen!

Tennis-Engineer
11-01-2007, 10:48 PM
:yeah: King David.Even Federer cant resist against David when he is in the best form. Go David.Finish the year by two TMS titles ! :worship:

Bascule
11-01-2007, 10:49 PM
no surprise at all.
federer didn't care about this match.
no way he was going to win this tournament.
nice of roger to put in an effort unlike novak.

now take this fucking title bandy
and pleae **** nadal again
in the final like you did in madrid

you push it too much, but if it makes you feel less sad, ok:devil:
This should be a sonnet?!uuugh

RonE
11-01-2007, 10:50 PM
You want Rafa to get to the Final?? :hug: You're a sweetie.

(Temporarily filling in for GlennMirnyi- hey someone has to :( )

Nothing more satisfying than to see the talentless moonballer down like a ton of bricks in a final leaving all his clueless fanboys/girls crying themselves to sleep :dance: :dance: :dance: :D

Rogieva
11-01-2007, 10:50 PM
Fed :o

No words, just...

scarecrows
11-01-2007, 10:51 PM
(Temporarily filling in for GlennMirnyi- hey someone has to :( )

Nothing more satisfying than to see the talentless moonballer down like a ton of bricks in a final leaving all his clueless fanboys/girls crying themselves to sleep :dance: :dance: :dance: :D

check a few pages back, somebody did that before ;)

RonE
11-01-2007, 10:52 PM
Yep..

and what did he say after the Madrid Final?

"i wasnt aggresive, i let him dictate the points"

fix your head Roger :rolleyes:

wow 120+ posts all fitted into one page on my screen!

Two things that struck me regarding that- Nalbandian's serve isn't as attackable as it used to be, and yes when Roger beat him in Madrid last year he was really ripping the returns off the second serve without mercy. Almost seems as if he never does that anymore these days.

l_mac
11-01-2007, 10:52 PM
(Temporarily filling in for GlennMirnyi- hey someone has to :( )

Nothing more satisfying than to see the talentless moonballer down like a ton of bricks in a final leaving all his clueless fanboys/girls crying themselves to sleep :dance: :dance: :dance: :D


:lol: Don't forget it will be made all the sweeter because Paris is played on blue clay this year ..

guga2120
11-01-2007, 10:53 PM
Fat Dave was just too good, great match.:worship:


It's funny to watch all the worried Federer fans bring up Nadal when he has absolutely nothing to do with this.:wavey:

Corey Feldman
11-01-2007, 10:54 PM
Paris-Bercy remains being one of the three TMS events Federer never won.and i doubt that will ever change while Basle is the week before Paris, he really sucks gay nuts at this venue, as someone would say :D

l_mac
11-01-2007, 10:54 PM
Starting next year, Djokovic will be number one for a decade straight. Didn't you get the memo?

I did, yes, but I'm afraid I shat on it.

Anyway I read on E! that they are making Saved By The Bell - The Next Generation and Nole has been signed up to play Screech's son, Scraatch.

Apemant
11-01-2007, 10:56 PM
David played magnificent tennis today, but that doesn't mean Canas defeating Fed twice in a row earlier this year was any less impressive. They simply have different ways to outplay Fed, so, whatever works in the end. I watched the match between Fed and Willy but didn't perceive him as "helpless" at any point.

Really? What do you call that 2nd set and the beginning of the 3rd? I call it 'schooling'. It seemed there was absolutely nothing Canas can do to hurt Fed, and the score reflected that impression. Only when he failed to go double break up in the third, wasting 4 more BPs in that game alone (15-40 and two ADs), he got visibly nervous and simply invited Canas to come back into the match. Perhaps some people find that impressive too, but I must admit I'm not one of those.

Just compare that 6-2 set with the 6-1 in Madrid vs. Nalby. He broke David 2 times in closely contested games, and David himself had breakpoints in 2 different service games of Federer. A point here and there and it could have been 6-4 for David. So it wasn't one-sided as the score suggested; but that 6-2 in Miami WAS one-sided, totally, even more than the score itself.

acionescu
11-01-2007, 10:56 PM
Fantastic match!It's so good to see a Federer match when you're not sure about the result!Especially with David!Roger knows that it's a bad match for him and allways try to give his best.
But Roger...:shrug: That backhand:confused:
And it was so funny to see Roger face in the middle of the 1st set becoming "I have to do something else, but what?" face!And chasing every ball, even the worst dropshots, Nadal style!
Great stuff!

eck
11-01-2007, 11:00 PM
Nalbandian is the new Canas :lol:

Shabazza
11-01-2007, 11:01 PM
Nalbandian is the new Canas :lol:

Don't insult him! :p

scarecrows
11-01-2007, 11:01 PM
It's funny to watch all the worried Federer fans bring up Nadal when he has absolutely nothing to do with this.:wavey:

who? dylan?

:haha:

bad gambler
11-01-2007, 11:01 PM
Congrats to Nalbandian

Rest up Roger for 10 days time

jcempire
11-01-2007, 11:14 PM
Nalbandian

You are the guy

Hendu
11-01-2007, 11:17 PM
Masterful display by Nalbandian. The rest of the week will be a real test for his consistence. The "indoor double" would look very nice on his record.

Fourth defeat suffered by Federer this year against an Argie, eight in total. :eek: This is surely his worst season since 2003, dominance-wise.

Paris-Bercy remains being one of the three TMS events Federer never won.

And those four were in AMS tournaments.

Cañas said welcome in the first two AMS tournies of the season, and Nalbandian told Fed goodbye in the last two.

tripb19
11-01-2007, 11:18 PM
DAVE

19/21 points won at the net :yeah:

28W 23UE

Shrinking Violet
11-01-2007, 11:20 PM
Great to see David playing so well - of course it's whether or not he can keep this going into next season, or whther this is just a small spell of brilliance.

BalkanBoy
11-01-2007, 11:21 PM
This have bigger impact than Djokovic's lost yesterday. Nole gave it but Federer got OWNED.

TMJordan
11-01-2007, 11:23 PM
This have bigger impact than Djokovic's lost yesterday. Nole gave it but Federer got OWNED.

What? Nole tanked and got his ass kicked by an injured Santoro.

Roger lost a close match to an on fire Nalbandian.

There is no logic to what you just said.

Dragula.mp3
11-01-2007, 11:24 PM
Worst Season??? How many on here play tennis or at least grabbed a raquet?. You'll talk like if playing tennis it's so simple. It's not normal what Federer was doing. He is not having a bad season, he is having a more human season. Either way, Nalbandian played a great match, and had to do some great things to win in it, like those twisted angles. Federer were almost hitting in the sits ;P

Or Levy
11-01-2007, 11:25 PM
This was more beating than Roger gotten all year, that's for sure.

Two TB losses to Nole, never mind those insane losses to Canas when he was spraying balls all over the court...

Nope, all credit to Nalby today, he definitly outplayed from the baseline. Even better than Rafa at Wimby.

Almost No aces for Roger today, and no approaches to the net - strange choice of tactics.

Marek.
11-01-2007, 11:26 PM
This have bigger impact than Djokovic's lost yesterday. Nole gave it but Federer got OWNED.

:spit: :lol:

scarecrows
11-01-2007, 11:26 PM
What? Nole tanked and got his ass kicked by an injured Santoro.

Roger lost a close match to an on fire Nalbandian.

There is no logic to what you just said.

maybe I make you notice that the post you quoted was made from Balkan Boy

logic is not smth you should look for there

MrChopin
11-01-2007, 11:27 PM
Possibly the best performance by a guy who has beaten Federer since Safin's win in the AO 05.
If you except the end of the first set,Nalbandian was just AWESOME in that match :eek:

Federer played very good, I didn't see him playing any better since AO 07 - and David still won. :worship:

Except for that choke while serving for the match (and serving for the 1st set 1st time) he was nearly flawless. It looked as there was nothing Fed could do; even his best serves were coming back with interest. And even though he did win a fair share of incredibly intense rallies, Nalbandian obviously had the edge.

Now when someone asks for a definition of 'talent', just look at David in this match :devil: There you go, playing mediocre the whole year and then all of a sudden he dispatches #1 with authority twice, as if it was an expected result. You don't do that if your talent isn't out of this world.

I disagree that he hasn't played better since AO--several matches in USO, especially Roddick, were somewhat stronger. He played great defense today, and was able to step ot up continually throughout the match, but he dug himself into both a physical and mental pit by coming out soft. Against Nalbandian in this form, he did well to lose 6-4, 7-6, despite still almost taking it to a third set.

I agree with the rest of these comments. Nalbandian was painting lines during the first set, hitting only the outside of the lines consistently. Some of that was possible because Federer came out with shields up, defense first, but credit to Nalbandian for immediately attacking everything, and with perfect touch at the net (I think I saw 17/19 net points won late in the second set). I couldn't believe his forehand dropped in to double break Federer in the first set. I don't know if Fed believed it either.

If Nalbandian remains near this level, I wouldn't be surprised to see him shoot right back up into the top 5.

Federer well and truly outplayed, in all aspects. He was completely destroyed, and should have lost 6-4 6-4 in all honesty. Nalbandian ripped him apart off the return, and then bullied him from then on moving him all over the place and made Fed look a lightweight (we all knew that backhand was, and it was shown tonight, only one winner all night?). Nice to see Nalbandian employing a more aggressive outlook compared to a few years ago, and it shows just how good he is when playing that style, being able to bully that swiss :D

Yes, because 6-4 6-4 is "completely destroyed." Don't forget that Federer shook Nalbandian up at the end of the first and completely owned Nalbandian's serve during at least one game in the second, stepping around two second serves and crushing them for outright winners. Yes, Nalbandian played at a consistently higher level. He beat Federer, wrenching the W from him, but it was far from destruction. Federer had numerous opportunities to take control of the second set. He got tight a few times, and Nalbandian stayed the course.

I thought Fed would show some pride in this one, but he didnt. :sad:

just got owned by a better indoor player and a far better player mentally than himself ... 3 weeks of tennis in a row is no excuse, Roger has always been a total mental midget in tight matches Vs Nalbandian and nothing changes, he still has that 'feeling sorry for myself' look on his face when he's losing.

WD for playing your bitch role so well again Fedexho :o

now Dave has to try and beat 'his bitch role' against Ferrer :lol:

Nalbandian will be a far tougher Semi for Muzza if they make it than Rog would have been, so i cant even be happy that way :banghead:

:lol: Yes, Nalbandian beat him today. "Better indoor player", "far better player mentally"... outbursts like these after two matches (maybe you'll throw in '05 TMC final). Never mind that when they played indoors last year, Fed blanked him 6-4, 6-0, or closed out their '06 TMC RR match 6-1, 6-1.

expected, RF can't win in a french city to save his life and Nalby just owns him in strokes when it comes down to it .

When it comes down to it, you should probably worry more about what this means for Djokovic next season. If Nalbandian's back, Djokovic will have a lot more to worry about than $500k and some wisdom teeth.

********

So yes, Nalbandian beat Federer today (to contrast Fed losing Montreal). Until 5-2, Nalbandian took advantage of Federer in defense mode and completely throttled him, hitting just about everything as he should. His serve was unbelievable, spinning it far outside Fed's forehand on the deuce court. His play was nearly spotless for the first seven games.

The Federer started to pick it up, and -surprise-, Nalbandian stopped cruising. I note 5-2 because that's when Fed started stepping back and driving through his returns, immediately resulting in a break of serve. He kept that level up, started hitting dtl, and Nalbandian responded by tightening up. Fed almost overcame the double break after getting throttled. That says a lot about how much he cared for this match.

The second set was a coin toss, and actually, Federer looked at one point to be taking over, visible in moments like the game when he crushed two forehand winners off of second serves. I actually thought that Nalbandian was going to draw Federer into finally playing all out agression, and he nearly did. Federer earned plenty of looks in the second with several games at 30-30 (another sign of how great Nalbandian was playing), and until 4-4, was dominating on his own serve (I think 3 total points given up in the first 3 service games of second set). After he failed to convert his chances in that 4-3 game, I wasn't surprised he let down a little and was broken, considering the comeback he needed after 5-2 in the first. He still played well, but the rest is history. Nalbandian was just too good today for Federer, who dug himself in bad at the start of the match, and as a result, was constantly playing catch up against one of the greats at his peak.

MaryX
11-01-2007, 11:27 PM
Fantastic match, two fantastic rivals...What can I say- David, you made my day!:)

TMJordan
11-01-2007, 11:27 PM
maybe I make you notice that the post you quoted was made from Balkan Boy

logic is not smth you should look for there

Ah, thanks for clearing that up, now it makes sense :D

l_mac
11-01-2007, 11:28 PM
This have bigger impact than Djokovic's lost yesterday. Nole gave it but Federer got OWNED.


:haha: :retard:

It has a bigger impact here because Federer is a class player who rarely loses, whereas Djokovic is an overhyped one season wonder.

Andi-M
11-01-2007, 11:28 PM
LMAO

Nice one Dave :yeah: Shanghai should be interesting with fed in this kind of form.

Apemant
11-01-2007, 11:38 PM
... So yes, Nalbandian beat Federer today (to contrast Fed losing Montreal)...


Great comments, all in all. Agreed on all accounts. :yeah:

Tzar
11-01-2007, 11:39 PM
Vamos! :)

jonny84
11-01-2007, 11:41 PM
Federer probably wont even care to be honest. He'll just have Shanghai in sight.

brujyster
11-01-2007, 11:43 PM
Chapeau, David!!1

ReturnWinner
11-01-2007, 11:44 PM
His weapons and movement were in better working order against Roddick and Davydenko (Yes AND Davydenko) at this years US Open and in numerous matches this year he has been more reliable with at least RETURNING the serves. His stat for services that were unsuccessfully returned was pretty nasty... I think he played better against Canas in Madrid and also probably Lopez in the US Open. That about covers it.

and do no u think Nalbandian has merits in that??? he always
tries to dominate the points against Federer, he always tries to put Federer on the run and moving, always putting him pressure with his returns, always taking the ball very early and playing close to the lines.

Queens.
11-01-2007, 11:44 PM
Congrats, David! :D Destroying Federer once again :)

aeronatasha
11-01-2007, 11:44 PM
"He's so dominant from the baseline," said Federer, who last played the event in 2003. "It was tough to adjust.

"It's tough to be aggressive three meters behind the baseline. I wish the court could be faster - that's how it's supposed to be indoors - but I guess not here."

http://www.eurosport.yahoo.com/01112007/3/nalbandian-downs-federer-paris-masters-tennis-tournament.html

ezekiel
11-01-2007, 11:44 PM
real bad day for swiss tennis, they lost their neutrality (virginity) today :p

Maybe , Fed had some of that Cractina stuff before the match :o

richie21
11-01-2007, 11:46 PM
Worst Season??? How many on here play tennis or at least grabbed a raquet?. You'll talk like if playing tennis it's so simple. It's not normal what Federer was doing. He is not having a bad season, he is having a more human season. Either way, Nalbandian played a great match, and had to do some great things to win in it, like those twisted angles. Federer were almost hitting in the sits ;P

Well said!
For example,Federer's season so far is better than any of Sampras's seasons during his reign.....so lol at those who are saying Federer is having a poor season.
Actually ,even by his very high standard,it remains a good season for Federer.

R.Federer
11-01-2007, 11:47 PM
Owned again .... :ras:

Okay now time to rest up and get ready for the big one.

Eden
11-01-2007, 11:47 PM
This is surely his worst season since 2003, dominance-wise.

But I'm sure any other player on the tour would love such a season with 3 GS titles and 1 GS final besides 4 other tournament victories ;)

Haven't seen the match therefore thanks for all the comments about it. Congratulations to David for the win and equalising the h2h with Roger :yeah:
Good luck for the rest of the tournament.

Roger, take a good rest and then we want to see you in good shape in Shanghai :)

R.Federer
11-01-2007, 11:47 PM
Interesting.... TWO Argentine in-form-out-of-form players have beaten Federer in back to back TMS this year!

BalkanBoy
11-01-2007, 11:48 PM
What? Nole tanked and got his ass kicked by an injured Santoro.

Roger lost a close match to an on fire Nalbandian.

There is no logic to what you just said.

Nole had a medical treatment before the match and he wasn't able to play at full capacity. Today Roger got owned second time and the imact is bigger because Roger is No.1

It's funny how just yesterday everyone was laughing at Nole especially Fed Fans and only one day later the wind change direction :lol:

ezekiel
11-01-2007, 11:49 PM
What? Nole tanked and got his ass kicked by an injured Santoro.

Roger lost a close match to an on fire Nalbandian.

There is no logic to what you just said.

Nole was injured and didn't practice enough , he just showed up out of courtesy. Fed really got dominated with flashes of Rafa on clay amd jad Nalby not choked it would look much more lopsided.

Corey Feldman
11-01-2007, 11:50 PM
"He's so dominant from the baseline," said Federer, who last played the event in 2003. "It was tough to adjust

"It's tough to be aggressive three meters behind the baseline. I wish the court could be faster - that's how it's supposed to be indoors - but I guess not here."LOL what?

i thought you had a say on how the surface would be in Paris this year Fed?
:o

l_mac
11-01-2007, 11:51 PM
Nole was injured and didn't practice enough , he just showed up out of courtesy. Fed really got dominated with flashes of Rafa on clay amd jad Nalby not choked it would look much more lopsided.

:haha: :haha: Courtesy???? How do you spell courtesy in Serbian? Is it "$500,000?"

tripb19
11-01-2007, 11:51 PM
8-8

I can't wait for their next match. Nalby playing well makes the tour 8000X more exciting for me.

Leo
11-01-2007, 11:52 PM
Well done David.
Fed will have time to rest for Shangai now.

He'd have plenty of time to rest anyway. I'm sure he's pissed.

Amazing stuff, David. Are you on your way back to the big leagues?

I still find it funny he's beaten Fed twice in three weeks but lost to Wawrinka. :lol:

Sjengster
11-01-2007, 11:53 PM
LOL what?

i thought you had a say on how the surface would be in Paris this year Fed?
:o

What he really means is, slow it down when I face Verkerk, Henman, Karlovic et al, then give it an injection of pace when I have to play Nalbandian, Djokovic, Nadal. ;)

Eden
11-01-2007, 11:54 PM
Aftermatch interview with David

http://www.atpmastersseries.tv/page/TournamentInterview/0,,11444,00.html

Corey Feldman
11-01-2007, 11:56 PM
Yes, Nalbandian beat him today. "Better indoor player", "far better player mentally"... outbursts like these after two matches (maybe you'll throw in '05 TMC final). Never mind that when they played indoors last year, Fed blanked him 6-4, 6-0, or closed out their '06 TMC RR match 6-1, 6-1.I think you will find that TMC match was 3-6 6-1 6-1 :wavey:
Fed finds it no problem when he's far in the lead, tight .. well :tape:

Leo
11-01-2007, 11:56 PM
Don't insult him! :p

Yeah, Nalbandian is actually a great player with talent, whereas Canas... :unsure:

krystlel
11-01-2007, 11:57 PM
"He's so dominant from the baseline," said Federer, who last played the event in 2003. "It was tough to adjust.

"It's tough to be aggressive three meters behind the baseline. I wish the court could be faster - that's how it's supposed to be indoors - but I guess not here."

http://www.eurosport.yahoo.com/01112007/3/nalbandian-downs-federer-paris-masters-tennis-tournament.html
Didn't he pick the surface himself (or at least had a great say in the matter)? :haha:

R.Federer
11-01-2007, 11:57 PM
Nole was injured and didn't practice enough , he just showed up out of courtesy. Fed really got dominated with flashes of Rafa on clay amd jad Nalby not choked it would look much more lopsided.
Yep. When Djerky loses it is due to not playing well. When Federer loses it is due to playing exceptionally well and STILL getting owned :lol:

What a loser that Federer is

Action Jackson
11-01-2007, 11:57 PM
Never in doubt, though Nalle tried to give the crowd some more value by not closing out 2nd set when he had the chance.

As for Fed, he shouldn't have bothered playing here, but he bitched about the surface to get it changed and it doesn't look good, not turning up after that.

Corey Feldman
11-01-2007, 11:58 PM
What he really means is, slow it down when I face Verkerk, Henman, Karlovic et al, then give it an injection of pace when I have to play Nalbandian, Djokovic, Nadal. ;)He really is becoming an unbelievable Diva..

next he'll be asking someone to "turn the wind off" during a blustery match at Roland Garros.

TMJordan
11-01-2007, 11:58 PM
Nole had a medical treatment before the match and he wasn't able to play at full capacity. Today Roger got owned second time and the imact is bigger because Roger is No.1

It's funny how just yesterday everyone was laughing at Nole especially Fed Fans and only one day later the wind change direction :lol:

Nole was injured and didn't practice enough , he just showed up out of courtesy. Fed really got dominated with flashes of Rafa on clay amd jad Nalby not choked it would look much more lopsided.

:help:

BalkanBoy
11-01-2007, 11:59 PM
:haha: :haha: Courtesy???? How do you spell courtesy in Serbian? Is it "$500,000?"

Nole was injured and unlike Federer he didn't ask the organisers that the court be adjusted to his play style so he would have the best chances to win. Still Federer managed to get owned but he can't blame the court now :lol: Poor arrogant FeDIVA :spit:

Btw, congrats Nalb, maybe the No.1 spot is for you?

Bascule
11-02-2007, 12:02 AM
he did care a bit. but, he didn't seem to be that upset walking off the court.

Actually, he WAS VERY, VERY upset walking off the court, or better say:
running off the court.

Sjengster
11-02-2007, 12:02 AM
He really is becoming an unbelievable Diva..

next he'll be asking someone to "turn the wind off" during a blustery match at Roland Garros.

In some ways I think it's debatable whether a faster surface would be to his advantage against Nalbandian anyway; it would help him be more aggressive, but it would do the same for Nalbandian and his groundstrokes are more penetrating overall.

Hendu
11-02-2007, 12:02 AM
Yeah, Nalbandian is actually a great player with talent, whereas Canas... :unsure:

is an incredibly well trained player with a huge heart.

ReturnWinner
11-02-2007, 12:02 AM
Didn't he pick the surface himself (or at least had a great say in the matter)? :haha:

yes and the older surface was way faster :o

l_mac
11-02-2007, 12:03 AM
Nole was injured and unlike Federer he didn't ask the organisers that the court be adjusted to his play style so he would have the best chances to win. Still Federer managed to get owned but he can't blame the court now :lol: Poor arrogant FeDIVA :spit:




Nole wasn't injured.
Federer didn't ask for the court to be adjusted for his playing style.
He didn't blame the court, they were both playing on the same surface after all. He commented that it was playing slow.

Corey Feldman
11-02-2007, 12:03 AM
I still find it funny he's beaten Fed twice in three weeks but lost to Wawrinka. :lol:lost twice to Stan - Vienna and Basel :lol:

he just loves beating Fed when he's in the mood and Fed cant do shit about it.

ReturnWinner
11-02-2007, 12:03 AM
is an incredibly well trained player with a huge heart.

he is a great mover , has a very good fh, a decent serve and a decent return of serve too.

Andi-M
11-02-2007, 12:04 AM
Nole was injured and unlike Federer he didn't ask the organisers that the court be adjusted to his play style so he would have the best chances to win. Still Federer managed to get owned but he can't blame the court now :lol: Poor arrogant FeDIVA :spit:

Btw, congrats Nalb, maybe the No.1 spot is for you?

:haha:

ChrisDoesDallas
11-02-2007, 12:08 AM
Canas is a very good player, not one of my favorites but still very fun to watch. People who don't constantly attack the ball regardless of the shot or low percentage chance of it going in/being a winner always get flack. Counterpunching and defending are methods of winning as well, and it's worked 3/5 times Federer/Canas played.

Nalbandian looked so CUTE in his post-match interview! :hearts: Oh Dave, eat your heart out.

Their H2H is so interesting, I thought for sure David would never beat Federer again after TMC last year, now twice in a row. Very interesting stuff. Now no one can say David was only able to take advantage of their early matches anymore.

Corey Feldman
11-02-2007, 12:09 AM
Fed really got dominated with flashes of Rafa on clay amd jad Nalby not choked it would look much more lopsided.Same score tonight as Dave put on Nole in Madrid - of course Nole was tired and had his mind elsewhere with getting his "wisdom toes taken out" Operation to come.

Action Jackson
11-02-2007, 12:12 AM
He really is becoming an unbelievable Diva..

next he'll be asking someone to "turn the wind off" during a blustery match at Roland Garros.

Haha.

scarecrows
11-02-2007, 12:15 AM
Same score tonight as Dave put on Nole in Madrid - of course Nole was tired and had his mind elsewhere with getting his "wisdom toes taken out" Operation to come.

Nole was busy thinking of the speech he'll make next june when he becomes no.1

GonzoFed
11-02-2007, 12:22 AM
Too good Nalbandian today. He was great jumping on Federer's serve, solid with his own serve, and specially exploiting the lack of consistency on Roger's running FH. That's the area which Federer should improve. Under Rochey tutelage his footwork was top notch, therefore he reached almost every ball in perfect position to hit his groundies agressively. Now it is still good, but not good enough against a player that is a bad match up for him and coming crunch time will not shit in his pants and will take the chances when are offered.

PS: The serbian junta really hate Federer :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bascule
11-02-2007, 12:23 AM
:haha: :haha: Courtesy???? How do you spell courtesy in Serbian? Is it "$500,000?"

No, we spell it $750000. How you spell it in scottish?:devil:

BalkanBoy
11-02-2007, 12:24 AM
Nole wasn't injured.
Federer didn't ask for the court to be adjusted for his playing style.
He didn't blame the court, they were both playing on the same surface after all. He commented that it was playing slow.

Oh really? Nole's medical treatment http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=156288

Federer and Nadal made a change to the surface a condition of them playing. Forum : http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=112506
Source : http://www.grandchelem.net/mon_weblog/2007/10/jean-franois-ca.html

Sorry but it's true Federer is a pure arrogant DIVA :worship: FeDiva :lol:

Corey Feldman
11-02-2007, 12:25 AM
Nole was busy thinking of the speech he'll make next june when he becomes no.1Or the speech he'll be making in Rhode Island in 2017 at the Hall of Fame induction ceremony. :worship:

Sjengster
11-02-2007, 12:26 AM
Too good Nalbandian today. He was great jumping on Federer's serve, solid with his own serve, and specially exploiting the lack of consistency on Roger's running FH. That's the area which Federer should improve. Under Rochey tutelage his footwork was top notch, therefore he reached almost every ball in perfect position to hit his groundies agressively. Now it is still good, but not good enough against a player that is a bad match up for him and coming crunch time will not shit in his pants and will take the chances when are offered.

PS: The serbian junta really hates Federer :lol: :lol: :lol:

Exactly, when he's pushed out wide by Nalbandian's early ball-striking he struggles to make an effective response, particularly on the forehand. In part that's inevitable as he has bigger takebacks than the Great Dave off both wings, but he has to become more disciplined and get behind the ball better to be able to dictate these rallies that he's losing all over the place.

BTW GonzoFed, wasn't it you who bumped up the "Roger Federer will never beat David Nalbandian" thread shortly before Madrid? Thanks for that one, mate. :p

MrChopin
11-02-2007, 12:27 AM
I think you will find that TMC match was 3-6 6-1 6-1 :wavey:
Fed finds it no problem when he's far in the lead, tight .. well :tape:

Originally Posted by MrChopin
... or closed out their '06 TMC RR match 6-1, 6-1.

Yes, he dropped the first set 6-3, but he closed it out 6-1, 6-1 after that. As you highlight, it was tight during the first set with Nalbandian in the lead. Then Federer steamrolled Nalbandian... wait a minute :confused:

Action Jackson
11-02-2007, 12:28 AM
:worship: Martin Jaite he's the man.

Marek.
11-02-2007, 12:29 AM
Oh really? Nole's medical treatment http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=156288

Federer and Nadal made a change to the surface a condition of them playing. Forum : http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=112506
Source : http://www.grandchelem.net/mon_weblog/2007/10/jean-franois-ca.html

Sorry but it's true Federer is a pure arrogant DIVA :worship: FeDiva :lol:

You're calling Fed arrogant when Djoko said he wasn't even at 30% just because he was on medication.

Anyway, you are just on a roll today. :worship:

gogogirl
11-02-2007, 12:29 AM
Hey All,

Well - well - well. Fed Ex has lost eight now - and he and Rafa have only played in three finals this year. It would seem the tide has turned, indeed. Never the less though - Roger is still number one and has more game than 95% of the players on tour.

I thought he played a little too tenatively. It seemed he was playing not to lose in that first set. It just goes to prove again that in any given match. He blinked and Dave took his chances. It reminded me of the Blake match. Something told me at 4-4, he would blink and he did. Congrats to Richie for his win. James has to figure out a way to beat him.

Getting back to the subject on hand, this just proves more than anything that Roger is human. More and more players will begin to try to take it to him. If they'll succeed remains to be seen. Then again - a part of it always seems to be about match ups. Dave led at one time in their h2hs, then Fed - and now Dave has tied it up. Will he win the next one?

Btw, the announcers almost peed their pants when Roger broke Dave to tie it 5-5. More than likely though - they just wanted it to go three sets like many fans did. They kept saying stuff like - "Now that is the Fed we know. The number one player", and what not.

I've always been of the mind that whomever wins the match is number one at that particular moment and as it was contained w/i that match up - no matter the rank of the player. Said player should feel on top of the world if it matters that much to 'em.

"CARRY ON - DAVE" "SEE YOU SOON - ROGER" "WEAR YOUR MAN IN BLACK"

leng jai
11-02-2007, 12:30 AM
Fat Dave has evolved into Great Dave Pokemon style.

bokehlicious
11-02-2007, 12:30 AM
PS: The serbian junta really hate Federer :lol: :lol: :lol:

They can't get over USO finals... :awww: :hug: :D

GonzoFed
11-02-2007, 12:31 AM
BTW GonzoFed, wasn't it you who bumped up the "Roger Federer will never beat David Nalbandian" thread shortly before Madrid? Thanks for that one, mate. :p

Yes i was the one. I jinxed him :o. Thanks for remind me that :ras: But the thread was so damn good that i couldn't resist.

l_mac
11-02-2007, 12:31 AM
Oh really? Nole's medical treatment http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=156288

Federer and Nadal made a change to the surface a condition of them playing. Forum : http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=112506
Source : http://www.grandchelem.net/mon_weblog/2007/10/jean-franois-ca.html

Sorry but it's true Federer is a pure arrogant DIVA :worship: FeDiva :lol:

Having your teeth out is not an injury.

I think I posted the link to the grandchelem article, so I am aware of it. :rolleyes:

I'm not even a Fed fan :lol:

l_mac
11-02-2007, 12:33 AM
No, we spell it $750000. How you spell it in scottish?:devil:


We spell it "c-o-u-r-t-e-s-y" :p

Marek.
11-02-2007, 12:36 AM
All these Djokotards excuses make me think it's time for a Djokotard excuse thread. I would start it but I can't think of a good enough title. Plus, I'm too lazy to update something like that. :p

Bascule
11-02-2007, 12:36 AM
They can't get over USO finals... :awww: :hug: :D

(serbian, but not junta) you are wrong, I was even sad looking at his face last few seconds;)

JustJames
11-02-2007, 12:37 AM
We spell it "c-o-u-r-t-e-s-y" :p

Your spellings just a bit off.. Isn't it spelt.. "B-a-t-t-e-r-e-d M-a-r-s-b-a-r"?

undomiele
11-02-2007, 12:37 AM
Im proud of David. You know, it wasn´t all that long ago that people had written him off completely... calling Shanghai a fluke and all. Now its a whole new ball game!

(And its about time too. Federer´s dominance on hard courts had sucked the competitive life out of tennis altogether... for me at least.)

BalkanBoy
11-02-2007, 12:37 AM
Having your teeth out is not an injury.

I think I posted the link to the grandchelem article, so I am aware of it. :rolleyes:

I'm not even a Fed fan :lol:

Well he feeled bad after the treatment and couldn't recover in time and if you are aware of the article why you say that Federer didn't ask for the court changes even if they clearly say that in that link?

Corey Feldman
11-02-2007, 12:38 AM
Yes, he dropped the first set 6-3, but he closed it out 6-1, 6-1 after that. As you highlight, it was tight during the first set with Nalbandian in the lead. Then Federer steamrolled Nalbandian... wait a minute Yeah, breadsticks - easy........ its not like those sets went to 4-4 5-5 kind of thing

tonight Dave broke him to love at 4-4 in the second set, so predictable, then even when Dave started to choke he gave fed a SP, of course that was blown and then the tie break was a mugfest by Fed.
brain problems v Nalb in tight matches imo, all the way back to 1998 US Open Jun final :lol:

l_mac
11-02-2007, 12:40 AM
All these Djokotards excuses make me think it's time for a Djokotard excuse thread. I would start it but I can't think of a good enough title. Plus, I'm too lazy to update something like that. :p

Don't give them ideas above their station.

Bascule
11-02-2007, 12:40 AM
All these Djokotards excuses make me think it's time for a Djokotard excuse thread. I would start it but I can't think of a good enough title. Plus, I'm too lazy to update something like that. :p

:D Don't worry, lot of them won't be too lazy.;)

ufokart
11-02-2007, 12:42 AM
Well he feeled bad after the treatment and couldn't recover in time and if you are aware of the article why you say that Federer didn't ask for the court changes even if they clearly say that in that link?

If he didn't recover in time, why did he play?

Maybe it was the appereance money :p :lol:

And if you go to a tournament knowing that you are not even at your 30% capacity and then lose terribly then it sounds like a tank to me :lol:

l_mac
11-02-2007, 12:43 AM
Well he feeled bad after the treatment and couldn't recover in time and if you are aware of the article why you say that Federer didn't ask for the court changes even if they clearly say that in that link?


It's still not an injury. If he only felt 30% fit he should have given up his place and let someone else play - the tournament obviously didn't mean that much to him but the bonus pool money sure must have. And until Federer or Nadal or any other player come out and say that they refused to play Paris-Bercy until the court surface was changed to suit their playing style, I'll take those comments with a pinch of salt. It was the TD who approached the players, not the other way around.

Julio1974
11-02-2007, 12:53 AM
What can I say? I did not expect this end of season. Thank you David, really. It's such a pleasure to watch you play tennis when you are playing like this.

Rogiman
11-02-2007, 12:57 AM
Expected :shrug:

Bascule
11-02-2007, 01:02 AM
It's still not an injury. If he only felt 30% fit he should have given up his place and let someone else play - the tournament obviously didn't mean that much to him but the bonus pool money sure must have.

Right, but he deserved that money, that's bonus for good season, not just for one match. Don't be a hypocrite and tell me you wouldn't do the same.:rolleyes:

l_mac
11-02-2007, 01:04 AM
It's a bonus dependent on playing the final two Masters Events of the season. He wanted the money, so he played even though he wasn't match fit and put in minimal effort. Hope it doesn't come back to bite him on the ass. :)

MrChopin
11-02-2007, 01:11 AM
Yeah, breadsticks - easy........ its not like those sets went to 4-4 5-5 kind of thing

tonight Dave broke him to love at 4-4 in the second set, so predictable, then even when Dave started to choke he gave fed a SP, of course that was blown and then the tie break was a mugfest by Fed.
brain problems v Nalb in tight matches imo, all the way back to 1998 US Open Jun final :lol:

I think I understand you. It's just a question of the match being tight. If Federer is losing a match, he can still come back and win, as long as he wins easy. It's simply that he can't win a tight final set to win the match... '05 TMC RR-- Federer d Nalbandian 6-3, 2-6, 6-4... '06 Rome SF-- Federer d Nalbandian 6-3, 3-6, 7-6(5)... :confused:

;) I don't think there's enough of a pattern to make a case for it being a one-sided mental thing. I think that it's simply a matter of Nalbandian being a great player that often brings his best when playing Federer. They're split in record, and it often goes long in each match. Federer's victories have generally been more dominant than Nalbandian's, at least in score, but it's varied over several years and several surfaces. I think it's too diverse a record to draw many conclusions, other than that they play each other well and haven't been able to get a jump on the other, over time.

Bascule
11-02-2007, 01:13 AM
It's a bonus dependent on playing the final two Masters Events of the season. He wanted the money, so he played even though he wasn't match fit and put in minimal effort. Hope it doesn't come back to bite him on the ass. :)

let's not worry about their money, darling, makes me feel pretty bad. I answered you about that good rep, you didn't see that...hmm..anyway, let's :spit: for mugzza today, and wish him merry shangai.
got to :zzz: , have a life. :wavey:

njnetswill
11-02-2007, 01:21 AM
I don't think I can call myself a Roger fan anymore, not when I am happy about this loss. :o :tape:

Allstar
11-02-2007, 01:29 AM
I think either you were watching a different match from the rest of us, or you need to get your eyes tested! :rolleyes:

Fed was clearly shattered, evident from his movement and timing which was way off. Loads of errors early on, Bandy just keeping it in court, moving him around. Then came the Bandy collapse with some errors before clinching the set. Fed was only winning points off his 1st serve in the 2nd set, and when he missed it Bandy just had to move it about a bit and it was easy for him. Fed woke up a touch to take it to a tiebreak but disappointing overall. Just an efficient performance from Fat Dave more than anything else

Sunset of Age
11-02-2007, 01:58 AM
Didn't see the match, guess the better player won! :yeah:

Rogi :hug: :hug: :hug:

DAMM... no Dream Final, once again!!! :mad:

World Beater
11-02-2007, 02:07 AM
I don't think I can call myself a Roger fan anymore, not when I am happy about this loss. :o :tape:

i dont really care either. I mean this loss makes their next match that much more intruiging.

All this adversity for fed will make him raise his level and we will have another classic match a la Nadal at wimbledon.

GonzoFed
11-02-2007, 02:09 AM
i dont really care either. I mean this loss makes their next match that much more intruiging.

All this adversity for fed will make him raise his level and we will have another classic match a la Nadal at wimbledon.

AO 08 QF?

Merton
11-02-2007, 02:15 AM
Great victory for David, he was particularly impressive at the beginning of the 1st set. After that the match became more balanced but ultimately Roger never got a read on Nalbandian's serve and lost the battle from the baseline, in particular his slice backhand got a harsh treatment.

It will be interesting to see how David performs against Ferrer tomorrow.

Merton
11-02-2007, 02:17 AM
:worship: Martin Jaite he's the man.

No doubt about that, some coaches like Gilbert and Stefanki get all the publicity and credit, others go completely unnoticed.

Action Jackson
11-02-2007, 02:20 AM
No doubt about that, some coaches like Gilbert and Stefanki get all the publicity and credit, others go completely unnoticed.

I mean when he hooked up with Gaudio in 02, Gaston won Barcelona without losing a set thumping some outstanding players then beat Guga next week in winning a title there in Marbella.

He is a busy man these days, but he was a very hard worker as a player who made the top 10 and knows a lot about the game. He just came on board with Nalbandian and then David beats the 3 best players in the world losing 1 set in Madrid.

Corey Feldman
11-02-2007, 02:37 AM
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/waffen/violent-smiley-098.gif

Derek1206
11-02-2007, 02:39 AM
David. :woohoo:

BalkanBoy
11-02-2007, 02:40 AM
If he didn't recover in time, why did he play?

Maybe it was the appereance money :p :lol:

And if you go to a tournament knowing that you are not even at your 30% capacity and then lose terribly then it sounds like a tank to me :lol:

It's still not an injury. If he only felt 30% fit he should have given up his place and let someone else play - the tournament obviously didn't mean that much to him but the bonus pool money sure must have.

He certainly though that even if he wasn't 100 percent ready, he could get over Saprano and get a day or more to recover.

And until Federer or Nadal or any other player come out and say that they refused to play Paris-Bercy until the court surface was changed to suit their playing style, I'll take those comments with a pinch of salt. It was the TD who approached the players, not the other way around.

Haha I don't think you're so naive and neither are FeDiva or Nadal to go out and say that publicly, it would be a suicide. People would throw them rocks but instead, these things are discussed in private.
Still, FeDiva complains about the court after he got owned even if it was changed for him. Arrogance at it's best. (and I'm being polite)

LinkMage
11-02-2007, 02:44 AM
RIP FedGod
2003 Masters Cup - 2007 Australian Open


Fed couldn't win a baseline rally to save his life. His ground game has collapsed in recent times.

I still can't figure out what happened with Roger between the Australian Open and Dubai.

BalkanBoy
11-02-2007, 02:48 AM
RIP FedGod
2003 Masters Cup - 2007 Australian Open


Fed couldn't win a baseline rally to save his life. His ground game has collapsed in recent times.

I still can't figure out what happened with Roger between the Australian Open and Dubai.

Nole opened the Pandora's box in Montreal this year and the message was recived by other players and especially Nalbandian :worship:

Sunset of Age
11-02-2007, 02:52 AM
Hey All,

Well - well - well. Fed Ex has lost eight now - and he and Rafa have only played in three finals this year. It would seem the tide has turned, indeed. Never the less though - Roger is still number one and has more game than 95% of the players on tour.

I thought he played a little too tenatively. It seemed he was playing not to lose in that first set. It just goes to prove again that in any given match. He blinked and Dave took his chances. It reminded me of the Blake match. Something told me at 4-4, he would blink and he did. Congrats to Richie for his win. James has to figure out a way to beat him.

Getting back to the subject on hand, this just proves more than anything that Roger is human. More and more players will begin to try to take it to him. If they'll succeed remains to be seen. Then again - a part of it always seems to be about match ups. Dave led at one time in their h2hs, then Fed - and now Dave has tied it up. Will he win the next one?

Btw, the announcers almost peed their pants when Roger broke Dave to tie it 5-5. More than likely though - they just wanted it to go three sets like many fans did. They kept saying stuff like - "Now that is the Fed we know. The number one player", and what not.

I've always been of the mind that whomever wins the match is number one at that particular moment and as it was contained w/i that match up - no matter the rank of the player. Said player should feel on top of the world if it matters that much to 'em.

"CARRY ON - DAVE" "SEE YOU SOON - ROGER" "WEAR YOUR MAN IN BLACK"

Well, eh... are you happy now? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
11-02-2007, 02:57 AM
RIP FedGod
2003 Masters Cup - 2007 Australian Open


Fed couldn't win a baseline rally to save his life. His ground game has collapsed in recent times.

I still can't figure out what happened with Roger between the Australian Open and Dubai.

Go follow someone else and why are people surprised honestly. It's evolution no one is going to be on top forever and unless Federer wins the 15 GS titles and then retires.

Between the AO and Dubai, he doesn't play events and it was Canas that started it.

Corey Feldman
11-02-2007, 02:57 AM
I still can't figure out what happened with Roger between the Australian Open and Dubai.he definetely was utter crap in Dubai and the weeks after, but he came roaring back in the Slams and will do again.

He was never gonna do a Becker and win Basle, Paris and Tennis Masters Cup to end a season but i'm glad he played here.

i had a feeling if he won here he wouldnt win Shanghai, so he can still get that one .. Nalbi was fresh, loves playing him, and indoors.

Fed and his pride will get him another day. :yeah:

Action Jackson
11-02-2007, 02:59 AM
i had a feeling if he won here he wouldnt win Shanghai, so he can still get that one .. Nalbi was fresh, loves playing him, and indoors.

Fed and his pride will get him another day. :yeah:

He is still the clear favourite for Shanghai.

Merton
11-02-2007, 03:03 AM
^No doubt about that, the overreaction is hilarious though.