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Fed no longer the genius he once was

RickDaStick
11-01-2007, 08:51 PM
He will still win majors and remain # 1 because there is no one to challenge him but he is no longer the Federer everyone fears and thinks is unbeatable.

scarecrows
11-01-2007, 08:53 PM
he's getting old

richie21
11-01-2007, 08:57 PM
To be fair,the Nalbandian of tonight would have trashed almost every player on the tour......the fact Federer is still in the match just shows how good he is.

Adler
11-01-2007, 08:57 PM
Here we go again...

JustmeUK
11-01-2007, 09:00 PM
he's still a genius. older perhaps and maybe just not as hungry now as two years ago but definitely still a genius.

whether he will dominate the game as he has next year.. well I think 3 majors next year is less likely than before. and Nalby tonite is on fire. if only he'd played like this all year round.

Exodus
11-01-2007, 09:03 PM
nalby's on fire i have never seen him play that well no would have beaten nadal 6-0 6-0

LoveFifteen
11-01-2007, 09:15 PM
When Nalbandian plays well, he is always a tough opponent for Federer. Roger is still a genius.

kobulingam
11-01-2007, 09:18 PM
Nothing different about his intelligence, it's he lack of power on his shots that will trouble him going forward.

NyGeL
11-01-2007, 09:19 PM
lol, people said the same when he lost against Cañas, and after that...:


Won Hamburg, Wimbledon, Cincy, USO, Basel
Final MC, RG, Canada, Madrid

yes... he is still not the same.

He will win in Shangai anyway

Nobody can play at his top for the whole career, unless he retire at 26 yo.

holagirl56
11-01-2007, 09:21 PM
:lol:

there should be some sort of graph that shows how many of these threads pop up after a (rare) federer loss.

Mechlan
11-01-2007, 09:21 PM
:lol:

Roger is still the most talented player on tour.

danton
11-01-2007, 09:24 PM
He's still no 1 definately but that aura of invincibility has gone.

CmonAussie
11-01-2007, 09:27 PM
He's still no 1 definately but that aura of invincibility has gone.


;)
same thing happened to Tiger Woods in 2003-04.. when he failed to win a major for two & half years:eek:
Tiger lost his invincibility but then gradually got it back [5-majors in 2005-07]:cool:

~~it must be stressful for FED to stay on top so long, sooner or later a major letdown is going to affect him, but i expect him to rebound because he loves the game so much:angel:

bokehlicious
11-01-2007, 09:29 PM
He's done, he should retire

:retard: :zzz:

richie21
11-01-2007, 09:30 PM
When Nalbandian plays well, he is always a tough opponent for Federer. Roger is still a genius.

not only for Federer....:o

Allure
11-01-2007, 09:34 PM
Who cares. He got his 1.5 million check and can now concentrate on Shanghai. ;)

jenglisbe
11-01-2007, 09:34 PM
How many losses is that for Federer this year? 8 or 9? That's his most since 2003, and he 'only' won 2 Masters Series events this year, his least since 2003.

We'll see if this means his reign is ending a bit, or if he uses this as motivation to dominate more than ever next year. He still won 3 majors so it's not like it was a bad year.

Marek.
11-01-2007, 09:42 PM
He's still a great player but his uber-dominance over the tour is over.

Frederick16
11-01-2007, 09:45 PM
is shows here that nalbandian is in talent the real no 2 on the tour. please let him train a lot in the off season what a lovely player he is to watch and he and roger can have lot of real battles next year. with overall offcourse roger as the best player

Corey Feldman
11-01-2007, 10:24 PM
Nah, he's still alright Ivan..

main things are the Slams and he's had no crisis there for 4 years ... and at least no Slams are played indoor so thats good.

the difference this year is his weird Serena schedule and sure enough he seems less invincible when he's playing these events - just something we'll need to get used to with him from now on..

history remember's 12 time GS champions, not defeats to players in the 2R of these events - as much as they also suck when its to a tough rival.

Corey Feldman
11-01-2007, 10:34 PM
How many losses is that for Federer this year? 8 or 9? That's his most since 2003, and he 'only' won 2 Masters Series events this year, his least since 2003.

We'll see if this means his reign is ending a bit, or if he uses this as motivation to dominate more than ever next year. He still won 3 majors so it's not like it was a bad year.Exactly it for me...
he's just not puting it all out on the line for every tournament this year, the way he done every other year.... these times come for every legend, did for Sampras in 98 - they seem to realize they should take more breaks and they turn up sharp for the Slams/TMC.

but he never had much luck either this week.... 2 straight finals played and a horrible draw to deal with here - i just figured his Madrid pride would take him past Nalbi and then Ferrer or Muzza would beat him easily :p
Nalbi is tough and brings his best against Fed indoor - this was his 18th match v Fed and its 9-9.

Andi-M
11-01-2007, 10:38 PM
In 08 Murray, Djoko, Nadal, and Nalbandian will all beat Roger regularly on the tour because he's lost his aura and his A game is not going to be reached with much consistancy.

but the real challenge will come in a GS when Fed will find his A game...can these guys bring it then???

Corey Feldman
11-01-2007, 10:45 PM
We shall see...

Oscar Hernandez might beat Fed in a non-slam next year

ReturnWinner
11-01-2007, 10:46 PM
typical idiotic thread :retard:

Blondie1985
11-01-2007, 11:02 PM
He will still win majors and remain # 1 because there is no one to challenge him but he is no longer the Federer everyone fears and thinks is unbeatable.

he's not a machine, dumbass.

Bad Religion
11-01-2007, 11:04 PM
He never was that good

Just a mug with luck

BalkanBoy
11-01-2007, 11:07 PM
Nole at this year Montreal's Masters opened the Pandora's box :lol: The fall of Federer has started there and keeps going on thanks to :worship: Nalby :worship:

RagingLamb
11-01-2007, 11:08 PM
let's see him not make it to the finals of a major.

then we can start talking about the end.

Marek.
11-01-2007, 11:09 PM
He never was that good

Just a mug with luck
Nole at this year Montreal's Masters opened the Pandora's box :lol: The fall of Federer has started there and keeps going on thanks to :worship: Nalby :worship:

Logic at it's peak

richie21
11-01-2007, 11:21 PM
In 08 Murray, Djoko, Nadal, and Nalbandian will all beat Roger regularly on the tour because he's lost his aura and his A game is not going to be reached with much consistancy.

but the real challenge will come in a GS when Fed will find his A game...can these guys bring it then???


Wow,the Murraytards are really becoming confident now!:eek:

Andi-M
11-01-2007, 11:34 PM
Wow,the Murraytards are really becoming confident now!:eek:

We've always been confident...we have reason to be ;)

Eden
11-01-2007, 11:34 PM
let's see him not make it to the finals of a major.

then we can start talking about the end.

Well, it's the same old story with the same threads every time Roger loses a match. Just shows how incredible high the demand in him is.

World Beater
11-01-2007, 11:38 PM
Logic at it's peak

kinda ironic esp coming from a tankovic tard. :lol:

World Beater
11-01-2007, 11:40 PM
In 08 Murray, Djoko, Nadal, and Nalbandian will all beat Roger regularly on the tour because he's lost his aura and his A game is not going to be reached with much consistancy.

but the real challenge will come in a GS when Fed will find his A game...can these guys bring it then???

:lol:

:haha:

roger in this form is still better than muzza , nadal, tankovic and fitdave.

Andi-M
11-01-2007, 11:43 PM
:lol:

:haha:

roger in this form is still better than muzza , nadal, tankovic and fitdave.

Clearly NOT

bokehlicious
11-01-2007, 11:45 PM
This Federer is losing week in week out in this clown era and some dare call him the GOAT ? What a joke... :angel:

World Beater
11-01-2007, 11:48 PM
Clearly NOT

:lol:

do you really think fit dave can do what federer did this year. getting to finals tournament after tournament.

on a good day, there are a number of challengers to federer, but they have still not maintained the consistency from tournament to tournament to be beating federer regularly.

i will agree that all those players you mentioned are likely to beat fed once each next year. But i wouldnt call it being regularly beaten by those players.

RagingLamb
11-01-2007, 11:52 PM
Well, it's the same old story with the same threads every time Roger loses a match. Just shows how incredible high the demand in him is.

yes you're right.

you know someone's "good" when people criticize them for losing a single match.

FedFan_2007
11-01-2007, 11:54 PM
'tardism off the scale in this thread. Expected.

Lee
11-02-2007, 12:01 AM
We shall see...

Oscar Hernandez might beat Fed in a non-slam next year

No, Oscar will beat Fed in Wimbledon final next year ;)

MisterQ
11-02-2007, 12:03 AM
Federer's dominance is dropping to mere Sampras-like levels. :eek:

bokehlicious
11-02-2007, 12:05 AM
Federer's dominance is dropping to mere Sampras-like levels. :eek:

Which year did Sampras win 3 slams (and make all finals) ? :scratch:

MisterQ
11-02-2007, 12:10 AM
Which year did Sampras win 3 slams (and make all finals) ? :scratch:

exactly

rwn
11-02-2007, 12:19 AM
Federer's dominance is dropping to mere Sampras-like levels. :eek:

Sampras wished he had 3-slam winning years ;)

RickDaStick
11-12-2007, 01:17 PM
:worship:

Jaap
11-12-2007, 01:18 PM
Good prediction, Ivan.

Fed is finished.

Jimnik
11-12-2007, 01:23 PM
I can't see Federer winning any more matches for the rest of his life.

jasmin
11-12-2007, 01:32 PM
Don't see him winning like he use to but he will win some matches but I kind of think the dominance is over. I don't maybe this is telling him something...you need a new perspective from a coach. I don't care how old you are, improvement can happen (ie Agassi) unless there is a injury or something.

RickDaStick
11-12-2007, 01:37 PM
I can't see Federer winning any more matches for the rest of his life.

Well that's because you are a moron.

my0118
11-12-2007, 01:38 PM
He gave his dominance to Henin, I guess.

Jimnik
11-12-2007, 01:39 PM
Well that's because you are a moron.
Federer is a loser, choker. He should RETIRE already.

Farenhajt
11-12-2007, 01:44 PM
Not sure if he ever was a genius - but the guys just didn't know how to play him. Now they do. And they're not afraid any longer, even when they're a set down. World of difference.

jasmin
11-12-2007, 01:45 PM
Wow some of these people are really serious.

Jaap
11-12-2007, 01:45 PM
Federer is not a genius. Just happens to be No.1 in a mug era.

Leo
11-12-2007, 02:16 PM
I can't see Federer winning any more matches for the rest of his life.

Exactly, this is what I have been saying since Paris. And so far I'm right. 0-1 will quickly lead to 0-100. Then, retirement and shame. No, probably illegal doping then sex scandal then cocaine then shoplifting then retirement and shame. At least he got 12 while he could.

Well that's because you are a moron.

lol.

I already miss the Federer era. :sad:

MisterQ
11-12-2007, 05:33 PM
Not sure if he ever was a genius - but the guys just didn't know how to play him. Now they do. And they're not afraid any longer, even when they're a set down. World of difference.

If Federer is not a genius, there are no geniuses in tennis. ;)

You do have a point regarding the other guys, though -- they seem to have more of a game plan and more hope in these matches.

teleri
11-12-2007, 05:35 PM
well, it is a natural thing. one falls down and one rises.

The Oracle
11-12-2007, 05:35 PM
After all, he is only human.

FedFan_2007
11-12-2007, 06:03 PM
Federer needs to get on the Canas juice. Fast.

The Oracle
11-12-2007, 11:34 PM
Federer needs to get on the Canas juice. Fast.
Didnt Canas beat him a couple of times already? I dont know, but I think the best thing for him to do is to retire now on the top of his career:angel:. I dont like to retire when I become #2, do you?

rofe
11-12-2007, 11:46 PM
Didnt Canas beat him a couple of times already? I dont know, but I think the best thing for him to do is to retire now on the top of his career:angel:. I dont like to retire when I become #2, do you?

Once you get out of your parents' basement, you will realize that you are #2 in a lot of things. Hopefully, it is not too much of a shock for you.

TenHound
11-13-2007, 01:24 AM
Guess his juice supplier got busted this yr. :) Maybe he should find a new one, realize he's a washed up clown & join World Wrestling Tour : ) :) :)

That'd probably make a lot of you clowns happy :(

roxannax
11-18-2007, 05:28 PM
What happened to this thread now, I’d like to know... :)

Tennis-Engineer
01-25-2008, 10:52 AM
Again today it was proven that Fed cant be the player he was in 2004-2007.Now Youngsters are challenging him and it will be really tough for him to dominate.Djokovic,Tsonga,Nadal, Murray, Baghdatis and Nalbandian are all real threats for him in any tournament.