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Baghdatis "defeats" Davydenko 6-2 6-2

dijus
11-01-2007, 11:24 AM
nice tank, Kolya, although he showed up in last games and tried to erase this bad impression :o
but these 6 df's in 2 serve games by Davy at the beggining of the 2nd set was just pathetic.

Allegretto
11-01-2007, 11:24 AM
Truly disgraceful from Davydenko.

scarecrows
11-01-2007, 11:25 AM
match of the century

Kolya
11-01-2007, 11:25 AM
Off with Djoko to Shanghai!

Tanking together?

Fergie
11-01-2007, 11:25 AM
Nice one Kolya :rolleyes:

eck
11-01-2007, 11:25 AM
Crap match.
By both. The Winners and UE ratio for both are just awful.

Horatio Caine
11-01-2007, 11:26 AM
He's probably just testing the ATP to see if he will get another "lack of best effort" warning / fine, while Djokovic walks away with just a minor slap on his wrist.

Deivid23
11-01-2007, 11:26 AM
No tanking at all, just his head is a mess these days, funny shit from Kolya

Voo de Mar
11-01-2007, 11:26 AM
Denko's serve :spit:

Medina
11-01-2007, 11:27 AM
Boring match, Deavydenko wasnt trying at the start, but mid way 2nd set, the umpiure told him to, and he actualy tried..

Serving Horrible, even baghdatis asked him why he played so shit..

Peta Pan
11-01-2007, 11:27 AM
What was truly disgraceful was the somewhat coaching from the umpire.

But yeah that was piss poor match that one :o

Claroo
11-01-2007, 11:28 AM
:rolleyes:

Or Levy
11-01-2007, 11:30 AM
Sorry, but you gotta be blind to call this a tank.

His head was so obviously messed up, even the Umpire was attempting to coach him "Try not to think about your serve" - he is just in a heap-load of troubles right now, and considering what he is going through lately it is hard to blame him.

Marcos asked him at the net if he was alright, and then wished him goodluck for the YEC.

goldenlox
11-01-2007, 11:30 AM
6 winners, 36 ue's. 10 df's.
He looked awful. At times, that serve was like a weekend hacker.
He lost to Baghdatis at Wimbledon too. Baggy is good at going into his backhand corner, and that's where Davydenko likes to hit.

Hola Mr. SK
11-01-2007, 11:31 AM
welcome to Shanghai,Kolya :D

foul_dwimmerlaik
11-01-2007, 11:32 AM
Was I mistaken, or did Kolya actually apologized to Marcos at the net?

Awful, awful match.

schorsch
11-01-2007, 11:32 AM
How can one play freely when everybody keeps bugging one all time? No-one leaves him alone. He doesnt like media attention wether its good or bad one. And the umpires are just darn assholes. They're mentally destroying one of the top players. Shame on the ATP. Look how well Nikolay was playing at the USO. Everybody was so respectful towards him even the cocky damn Swiss commentators managed to give him compliments. Now after Sopot where nothing was proven he doesnt get a break. Thats just friggin' annoying.

martine2
11-01-2007, 11:32 AM
:help:...

but good Baggy won :)

Medina
11-01-2007, 11:32 AM
What was truly disgraceful was the somewhat coaching from the umpire.

But yeah that was piss poor match that one :o

That coaching from the umpire was halarious :haha: im liek wtf, is he aloud to do that...

Metis
11-01-2007, 11:33 AM
I can't believe I woke up at 6:30am to watch this match :banghead:
Davydenko seems to have caught the Coria virus :tape:.

And what was the umpire trying to do there giving him advice what to do on his service games?

Anyway, I hope Marcos keeps going. SF is within his reach. :)

danton
11-01-2007, 11:33 AM
I didn't see the match but just tuned into Sky Flemmings thoughts are:

Davy was trying - and the replayed points i saw - Davy was clearly trying
He had a serving melt down
Umpire completely out of order in saying that he isn't trying

Never seen Flemming so pissed off

my0118
11-01-2007, 11:34 AM
Losing to Baggy is more believable.
And his acting is improving. :D

Jaap
11-01-2007, 11:34 AM
Flemming don't know what the fuck he is talking about.

Rogieva
11-01-2007, 11:35 AM
Top 5 players? :spit:

Snowwy
11-01-2007, 11:35 AM
A former Grand Slam finalist beating a former grand slam semi-finalist at best isnt such a shocker.

scoobs
11-01-2007, 11:36 AM
If someone locates Davydenko's serve, could they forward it on to Shanghai so he can collect it at the hotel? :wavey:

kindablue
11-01-2007, 11:36 AM
A win is a win :rolleyes:
Keep going Marcos :yeah:

Medina
11-01-2007, 11:37 AM
Was I mistaken, or did Kolya actually apologized to Marcos at the net?

Awful, awful match.

Yup he did, he said that he couldnt serve.

MariaV
11-01-2007, 11:41 AM
His head was so obviously messed up, even the Umpire was attempting to coach him "Try not to think about your serve" - he is just in a heap-load of troubles right now, and considering what he is going through lately it is hard to blame him.

Marcos asked him at the net if he was alright, and then wished him goodluck for the YEC.

Awww how nice of Marcos. :hug: :hug:

About the Coria disease - it's Kolya's right shoulder too if I understood it right so... :tape: :tape:
I'm starting to feel sorry for Kolya.

Xristos
11-01-2007, 11:46 AM
Bravo Marcoss!!!

baghdatis
11-01-2007, 11:52 AM
Gl in the Next round Marco!!!

:D

adee-gee
11-01-2007, 11:52 AM
:awww: you gotta feel sorry for Davydenko. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke :hug:

baghdatis
11-01-2007, 11:53 AM
Gl in the Next round Marco!!!

:D

stacy25
11-01-2007, 12:08 PM
Happy that Marcos won yay!

Feel sorry for Davydenko though he looked really stressed out out there

Kolya
11-01-2007, 12:27 PM
:awww: you gotta feel sorry for Davydenko. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke :hug:

Haha... sarcasm to the max!

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
11-01-2007, 12:35 PM
at the end of the match the 2006 champion has been booed by the crowd

really pathetic.... well, not a good thing for tennis.

silverwhite
11-01-2007, 12:45 PM
Sorry, but you gotta be blind to call this a tank.

His head was so obviously messed up, even the Umpire was attempting to coach him "Try not to think about your serve" - he is just in a heap-load of troubles right now, and considering what he is going through lately it is hard to blame him.

Marcos asked him at the net if he was alright, and then wished him goodluck for the YEC.

What? :help:

Sunset of Age
11-01-2007, 12:47 PM
Crap match indeed.

Congrats Baggy! :hatoff:

bittertea
11-01-2007, 12:51 PM
What? :help:

Cedric Mourier, the umpire actually said, "Why don't you serve like me?" "Try harder!" :speakles:

Mateya
11-01-2007, 12:53 PM
:haha: :rolls:

Well played, Marcos (:rolleyes:)

Very well tanked, Nikolay :cool:

I will have to put him back in my signature.

ReturnWinner
11-01-2007, 01:07 PM
wow 62 62 but looking at the stats Denko had many chances on

Baghdatis serve but could not take them whereas Baghdatis did all

the opposite, and yesterday said he played very well against Del

Pony but i think its pretty stupid to say he tanked.

Truc
11-01-2007, 01:09 PM
Yes, it's not comparable with Djoko's obvious tanking, it's not a question of being trashed and playing like crap, it was all about Djoko's attitude yesterday, half-heartedly lifting his racquet when Santoro was playing a lob, barely trying to hit a real passing-shot during the whole match... A total mockery.

Today was different, you can't be sure Davydenko wasn't trying, he's really looking completely lost out there. He was having a serving melt down and his whole game is falling apart then.

(Mourier's coaching of Davydenko was plain embarrassing, I've never seen that before.)

Mateya
11-01-2007, 01:20 PM
Yes, I agree and take back what I said before :o

I didnt know his serve and game fell apart so much and that he was really trying out there. But he could still act like he cant serve, couldnt he? :confused:

However, Djokovic yesterday was really, really bad. That was a real tank. :) For this one Im not sure..

shotgun
11-01-2007, 01:21 PM
Davydenko is going crazy, you can tell the persecution is getting to him. He's gotten to a position where everytime he loses a match against a lower-ranked player, people will speculate whether he fixed it or not.

Corey Feldman
11-01-2007, 01:22 PM
Enjoy that double bagel did you Davydonkey

Voo de Mar
11-01-2007, 01:27 PM
Third straight year with Davydenko at Masters Cup suggest that world tennis is in serious trobule :retard:

crouching
11-01-2007, 02:04 PM
If someone locates Davydenko's serve, could they forward it on to Shanghai so he can collect it at the hotel? :wavey:

Yeah and Elena Dementieva is looking for her serve. Davydenko seems to have borrowed it without asking. Someone needs to do a swap for them....

TMJordan
11-01-2007, 02:27 PM
I hate Davydenko.

Montego
11-01-2007, 02:43 PM
Finally, Kolya show who is the boss in Shanghai !!! Good luck for him and I hope he will shut every idiot up on this forum with a great performance just like he did in US Open after Sopot. People accusing Davydenko and putting him under constant pressure are retarded.

ReturnWinner
11-01-2007, 02:45 PM
he received a warning by supposedly not "giving the best effort" again??

Wojtek
11-01-2007, 03:01 PM
Cedric Mourier, the umpire actually said, "Why don't you serve like me?" "Try harder!" :speakles:

Davydenko said to him: You can call super visior :rolleyes:

Shrinking Violet
11-01-2007, 03:19 PM
Even though I really don't like Davydenko, I'm almost feeling a bit sorry for him now. It's never nice to see a guy struggle with his serve like that and it just seems to be getting worse. He'll get killed in Shanghai if he doesn't sort his head out because it looks like everything off-court is starting to get at him.

No one likes to see a guy get repeatedly booted while he's down, although Davydenko hasn't made life easy for himself in terms of his attitude, but still - he's really getting unfairly picked on at the moment.

Merton
11-01-2007, 03:21 PM
That was not a tank at all, it seems that Davydenko may have caught the Coria virus.

Jaap
11-01-2007, 03:39 PM
Finally, Kolya show who is the boss in Shanghai !!! Good luck for him and I hope he will shut every idiot up on this forum with a great performance just like he did in US Open after Sopot. People accusing Davydenko and putting him under constant pressure are retarded.

Clueless.

Keep burying your head in the sand.

Truc
11-01-2007, 03:40 PM
he received a warning by supposedly not "giving the best effort" again??I don't think so, but I had the sound off most of the time, so maybe I missed it.
Mourier told him to do his best, but that was during a discussion, not an official warning in the middle of the game.

Mourier asked him about the many df during a change over. They talked quite a bit, Mourier was saying even he can serve better than Davydenko is doing today, etc. At the end of the discussion, he told him to just try to put the ball in play on his service games and "give his best effort".

But the really shocking thing is that Mourier kept on coaching Davydenko before his next service games too! You could hear him say 'don't think about your serve', 'just put the ball in play'...

Jaap
11-01-2007, 03:40 PM
Even though I really don't like Davydenko, I'm almost feeling a bit sorry for him now. It's never nice to see a guy struggle with his serve like that and it just seems to be getting worse. He'll get killed in Shanghai if he doesn't sort his head out because it looks like everything off-court is starting to get at him.

No one likes to see a guy get repeatedly booted while he's down, although Davydenko hasn't made life easy for himself in terms of his attitude, but still - he's really getting unfairly picked on at the moment.

Davy doesn't deserve a shread of sympathy.

MCL
11-01-2007, 04:03 PM
Marcos :yeah:
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Nikolay :hug:
I hope Davydenko has enough time to collect his thoughts and his serve before the Masters cup.

From what I'm reading the umpire behaved oddly and coached him. This (apparently) biased targeting of Davydenko by umpires has to stop.:rolleyes:

Montego
11-01-2007, 04:09 PM
Davy doesn't deserve a shread of sympathy.

Same fore you, if you don't respect other people, don't expect them to respect you. Simple karma.

Drimal
11-01-2007, 04:15 PM
Great result from Marcos :woohoo:

Keep it up!

mangoes
11-01-2007, 04:41 PM
I'm feeling bad for Davydenko. Considering the fine he received for "lack of effort" it's getting fairly obvious that the ATP is trying to stick it to him in a roundabout manner. He's already called a cheater and scum on MTF. Give the guy a break.

Henry Chinaski
11-01-2007, 04:42 PM
I can't believe how restrained Davy was with Mourier there. I would have handed him the racquet and violently insisted he get down out of the chair and give me a personal lesson in serving.

Peter Fleming said he would have taken a chainsaw to the umpire's chair if he got spoken to like that.

*Viva Chile*
11-01-2007, 05:04 PM
I really think there's no tank on this one (I cannot say the same for the Cilic match) Davydenko's mind is everywhere nowadays with all the accusations. It doesn't surprise me if he starts to fall down "ala Coria" with his bunch of DF every match.

ChinoRios4Ever
11-01-2007, 05:06 PM
well done Marcos :bounce:

now beat Robredo plisssssssssss

PMK :rolleyes:

Fumus
11-01-2007, 05:36 PM
lol at the title.

mdjenders
11-01-2007, 05:59 PM
mourier should have HIS ass fined by the ATP for that disgraceful display. Davydenko is a low key guy, and getting caught up in all this undeserved bullshit is ruining him fast.

DrJules
11-01-2007, 06:20 PM
Like Djokovic yesterday Davydenko has shown contempt for the event and spectators.

The difference appears to be while Davydenko rightly is criticized, Djokovic seems to continually escape censure for his continual gamesmanship and also not trying yesterday.

Inconsistent treatment is the only area I have sympathy with Davydenko. It is time the ATP behaved in a consistent manner.

mdjenders
11-01-2007, 06:30 PM
Call me crazy, but I dont think he was tanking this match. Davydenko plays like crap sometimes, and he looked generally pissed off and frustrated at all the errors and double faults.

Djokovic, on the other hand, looked totally disinterested and lackadaisical.

Jaap
11-01-2007, 06:45 PM
mourier should have HIS ass fined by the ATP for that disgraceful display. Davydenko is a low key guy, and getting caught up in all this undeserved bullshit is ruining him fast.

Undeserved?

LOL

tangerine_dream
11-01-2007, 07:13 PM
As long as Baggy wins that's all that matters. Congrats, Marcos. :yeah:

Everybody's got their daggers out for Donkey :lol:

Davydenko again accused of not trying
November 1, 2007

Nikolay Davydenko was again accused of not trying his hardest in a tennis match, with the chair umpire criticizing the Russian's serving during a 6-2, 6-2 loss to Marcos Baghdatis in the third round of the Paris Masters.

The defending champion, who was booed during the match, finished with 10 double-faults and 36 unforced errors. He lost serve five times.

Chair umpire Cedric Mourier spoke to Davydenko during a changeover, asking him what was wrong with his serve. Davydenko responded by asking what else he could do.

"Serve like me," Mourier said. "If you serve like me, you put it in the box. That's it." :spit:

Davydenko had said Wednesday he was hampered by a sore elbow, but he didn't give a direct answer when Baghdatis asked him what was wrong as they shook hands at the end of the match.

MaryX
11-01-2007, 07:28 PM
How can one play freely when everybody keeps bugging one all time? No-one leaves him alone. He doesnt like media attention wether its good or bad one. And the umpires are just darn assholes. They're mentally destroying one of the top players. Shame on the ATP. Look how well Nikolay was playing at the USO. Everybody was so respectful towards him even the cocky damn Swiss commentators managed to give him compliments. Now after Sopot where nothing was proven he doesnt get a break. Thats just friggin' annoying.

That is exactly how I feel!This loud hunt realy annoys me, especially when nothing has been proven yet.I say:find evidences and disqualify him and sue him, or what ever , but stop behave like hunting dogs chasing the fox.I realy feel sory for that guy now, he is under terrible pressure and everybody is free now to make his life more miserable.If he is proven guilty-ok, fine him, arrest him, ...but this is disgraceful.

+alonso
11-01-2007, 08:49 PM
:bounce: Congrats Marcos! Now do Feña a favour and defeat Robredo! :scared:

nanoman
11-01-2007, 09:23 PM
mourier should have HIS ass fined by the ATP for that disgraceful display. Davydenko is a low key guy, and getting caught up in all this undeserved bullshit is ruining him fast.

Fined ?!! by the ATP ??!!!
This is the second time Davydenko is getting harassed by the umpires. This couldn't be coincidence. I'm pretty sure the umpires are instructed to act this way in a match where Davydenko is involved. After all, mr.Round Robin doesn't like Davydenko very much.

NyGeL
11-01-2007, 09:27 PM
Davydenko. The Next Coria?

krystlel
11-01-2007, 11:10 PM
Chair umpire Cedric Mourier spoke to Davydenko during a changeover, asking him what was wrong with his serve. Davydenko responded by asking what else he could do.

"Serve like me," Mourier said. "If you serve like me, you put it in the box. That's it."
Oh dear, is that exactly what Mourier said? :rolleyes: How insulting. He was feeling bad enough as it is. Also, the coaching from Mourier was stupid, definitely not within the rules.

This also puts into perspective last week's accusation of not trying - I think Davydenko definitely got unfairly fined there since he clearly has lost his serve. I don't think he tanked this match at all. It is hard to focus on the other areas of your game when you can't even get the serve in the box and his intensity level in the return games wasn't that bad.

Blue Heart24
11-01-2007, 11:59 PM
"Serve like me," Mourier said. "If you serve like me, you put it in the box. That's it."

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Marek.
11-02-2007, 12:04 AM
What happened to the Mugdatis that could hardly win a match without choking?

goldenlox
11-02-2007, 12:07 AM
Davydenko is like Jankovic. He's going to have to play fewer events next year, because every time his body lets him down, people will accuse him of not trying.

asher_langley
11-02-2007, 01:44 AM
With this stigma for Davy, people might automatically think of him as tanking the game...imagine if Baggy (or any other player) did do good and people attribute the win Davy's tank :O Poor Baggy (or whoever played against him).

Kolya
11-02-2007, 02:27 AM
Kolya needs rest physically and mentally for 2008 (if he is still there :p)

MaryX
11-02-2007, 09:37 AM
Davydenko is like Jankovic. He's going to have to play fewer events next year, because every time his body lets him down, people will accuse him of not trying.

I agree with this.I can't find any resonable explaination for that amount of matches.