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Why is it so difficult to like Murray?

zcess81
10-30-2007, 04:12 PM
Very good and talented player but for some reason he's not one of the most liked players. Why do you think that is?

l_mac
10-30-2007, 04:14 PM
I don't know or care. I think he's great :yeah:

zcess81
10-30-2007, 04:18 PM
WOW just as I posted this thread I read this on Eurosport:


Murray in Paris car crash

Eurosport - Tue, 30 Oct 15:51:00 2007

Britain's Andy Murray said on Tuesday he had been involved in a car crash on his way to the Masters Series tournament in Paris.

"It happened last (Monday) night, on the way from the airport to the hotel," Murray told reporters.

"There was the driver, me and (coach) Brad (Gilbert). There was a lot of traffic. The driver did nothing wrong. He just broke and somebody, driving at around 20 km/h, bumped into the back of the car.

"I'd never been in a car crash before. There was a pretty loud bang. My back's a bit stiff but it's nothing serious."



I guess he's already making an excuse should he lose in this tournament:)

Voo de Mar
10-30-2007, 04:21 PM
Personally I don't like his on court attitude. Yeah, he doesn't seem to be enjoying his game.

t0x
10-30-2007, 04:22 PM
He doesn't SEEM passionate about the game. No doubt he is, but he doesn't show it sometimes...

Also, he's very talented. His backhand is killer, but at times he's just too happy to junkball. When he's aggressive he's a deligh to watch. Hopefully he'll work on this!

tennis2tennis
10-30-2007, 04:32 PM
c'ause if he's not in a constant state of chronic depression he makes sure everybody else is!!

tennis2tennis
10-30-2007, 04:33 PM
WOW just as I posted this thread I read this on Eurosport:


Murray in Paris car crash

Eurosport - Tue, 30 Oct 15:51:00 2007

Britain's Andy Murray said on Tuesday he had been involved in a car crash on his way to the Masters Series tournament in Paris.

"It happened last (Monday) night, on the way from the airport to the hotel," Murray told reporters.

"There was the driver, me and (coach) Brad (Gilbert). There was a lot of traffic. The driver did nothing wrong. He just broke and somebody, driving at around 20 km/h, bumped into the back of the car.

"I'd never been in a car crash before. There was a pretty loud bang. My back's a bit stiff but it's nothing serious."



I guess he's already making an excuse should he lose in this tournament:)

my left pinky toe doesn't feel to strong and i think my right eyelashes are a bit sore

decrepitude
10-30-2007, 04:40 PM
Well, I realise he is not everybody's cup of tea. Personally I like him, I like his tactical play, his frequently amazing shots, his off-court persona, his dry sense of humour. I wish he would smile more often, it is amazing what a difference it makes!

On-court I agree he has sometimes been bad in the past but he is working on improving that. It is mostly disgust with himself if he feels he is not performing as he should.

Andi-M
10-30-2007, 04:43 PM
Very good and talented player but for some reason he's not one of the most liked players. Why do you think that is?

Dont stress yourself out man. Murray dont give a toss if you or others dont like him.

He has more fans than you...thats for sure!!

RagingLamb
10-30-2007, 04:44 PM
rude kid

crazillo
10-30-2007, 04:45 PM
I like him. Espacially the al-court game and I think he has a nice looking technique. His haircut could be better though. *lol*

osalsyst
10-30-2007, 04:47 PM
I've always rooted for him since he was two sets against Nalby at Wimby. Cute end of sentence, no? Anyway, his attitude is somewhat annoying and that has a lot to do with some of his unnecessary losses. Cases in point: his match against Djokovic in Madrid last year and Nadal down under this year.

mtw
10-30-2007, 04:52 PM
This man has always very worried face.

Schu
10-30-2007, 04:53 PM
ALL of the above. He does seem to be getting better about the whinning on court - but still a long way to go. Maybe if he looked like he was enjoying it just once during the match.... However got to respect his game which is nice when he is not doing junk balls.

scoobs
10-30-2007, 04:54 PM
Naturally not everyone likes the way he is on court or how he plays - no reason why everyone should.

When he's playing it's rarely dull though.

Fumus
10-30-2007, 04:55 PM
I love Murray, I think he's great.

RickDaStick
10-30-2007, 04:56 PM
Boring, Creepy looking moonballer

mineralwater
10-30-2007, 04:56 PM
I like him, I think he's v talented and has the potential to do really well. His game is also more interesting to watch than most other players, he has a lot of variety. As for his on court - off court demeanor, I don't really care. He does have a v dry sense of humour and I think most of the media just doesn't get him. I also think he's genuinelly a nice kid but we dont often see that side of him.
I do however wish he'd whinge less when it comes to his injuries, and the British press would chill out a bit, stop the hype and let him get on with it!

rocketassist
10-30-2007, 04:58 PM
He has actually gained in popularity in recent months on this forum I've noticed. He used to be almost to the point of loathing from some quarters in here.

Jozie
10-30-2007, 05:00 PM
Always seems to get a lucky draw. Over rated ...

rocketassist
10-30-2007, 05:01 PM
Always seems to get a lucky draw. Over rated ...

Djokovic is extremely easy to beat, isn't he.

scoobs
10-30-2007, 05:01 PM
Boring, Creepy looking moonballer
I guess it's better to be a boring, creepy looking server ;)

RickDaStick
10-30-2007, 05:04 PM
I guess it's better to be a boring, creepy looking server ;)

You really do hate Guccione, dont you?:)

scoobs
10-30-2007, 05:05 PM
You really do hate Guccione, dont you?:)
It's that Ivan's middle name?

elessar
10-30-2007, 05:05 PM
He doesn't seem to be that hated to me :shrug: Personnaly I really like his game and even though his moping around the tennis court annoy me sometimes it doesn't really bother me

decrepitude
10-30-2007, 05:08 PM
Always seems to get a lucky draw. Over rated ...

Yep, great draw in Madrid. Stepanek, Chela, Nadal. . .

And Tursunov and Youzhny in St Petes . . .

Here, if he beats Nieminen (final last week remember, can't be in bad form) he gets to meet Djokovic (unless of course Santoro beats Djoke)

Cakewalk.

zcess81
10-30-2007, 05:09 PM
Always seems to get a lucky draw. Over rated ...

He's got a tough draw, man. He's in the same section as Nieminen (currently in good form), Djokovic, Gasquet, Federer...doesn't get much tougher than that.

NinaNina19
10-30-2007, 05:10 PM
I love him but my dad doesn't. My dad says it's annoying how the bbc hypes him up to be something my dad believes he isn't and my dad also didn't like people comparing him to Djokovic.

RickDaStick
10-30-2007, 05:11 PM
It's that Ivan's middle name?

:yawn: Go back to admiring the US flag. You are much better at that then telling jokes like Escude pointed out.

l_mac
10-30-2007, 05:12 PM
my dad also didn't like people comparing him to Djokovic.


I don't like that either. :)

zcess81
10-30-2007, 05:15 PM
I don't like that either. :)

I agree. When Murray wins 2 Masters Series titles, gets to couple of GS semis and a final then he can be compared to Djokovic.

scoobs
10-30-2007, 05:17 PM
:yawn: Go back to admiring the US flag. You are much better at that then telling jokes like Escude pointed out.
The US flag?

Now you've completely lost me....

nanoman
10-30-2007, 05:23 PM
-He's ugly.
-He's british and therefore overhyped. Most promising newcomer in sports, anyone ?
-He's rude, foul mouthed.
-He plays negative; moonball, junkball you name it even though he can do so much better.
-His coach is Brad Gilbert.
-His brother is annoying.
-Did I mention his looks ? Bad, bad teeth + curly hair -> ask to be punch in the face.

Sunset of Age
10-30-2007, 05:26 PM
Difficult to like him? :confused:

He's very talented, passionate, exciting to watch, has a GREAT game (when he's on, of course) - :secret: at times he even makes me think of a very young Fed!

If he manages to keep his head together and avoid injuries, I think he has a great future ahead of him, *despite* all the Brits hyping him. :yeah:

Corey Feldman
10-30-2007, 05:27 PM
You got them mixed up Ivan Ljubicic...

the was Jimnik :p


as for Muzza, he' a bit late coming out of that 'teenage' spell. ;)

Corey Feldman
10-30-2007, 05:28 PM
-He's ugly.
-He's british and therefore overhyped. Most promising newcomer in sports, anyone ?
-He's rude, foul mouthed.
-He plays negative; moonball, junkball you name it even though he can do so much better.
-His coach is Brad Gilbert.
-His brother is annoying.
-Did I mention his looks ? Bad, bad teeth + curly hair -> ask to be punch in the face.Anything else ??

:lol:

nanoman
10-30-2007, 05:32 PM
Anything else ??

:lol:

Darn, I forgot to mention his mother. :)

scoobs
10-30-2007, 05:35 PM
You got them mixed up Ivan Ljubicic...

the was Jimnik :p


as for Muzza, he' a bit late coming out of that 'teenage' spell. ;)
Glad you cleared that up, I was wondering what I'd been doing with a US flag that I didn't even know about.

Kitty de Sade
10-30-2007, 05:35 PM
Tough crowd, this MTF is sometimes. :lol:

I like Murray, although I can see where some may not like his attitude, behavior, or what not. Personally, I'd much rather see a little bit of heat and personality injected into the game again, rather than not.

waterlily_021989
10-30-2007, 05:57 PM
I think he's great!

tennizen
10-30-2007, 06:03 PM
I really like Murray. His whining doesn't bother me. Actually I don't really care for on-court persona. More interested in what they say in interviews and how they conduct themselves. When I saw Murray's match first in Wimbledon, I was surprised how deceptive his play was. He barely seemed to be moving but was hitting winners just like that. I think he is very talented and should have a good chance to get to the top and remain there

Chris Seahorse
10-30-2007, 06:17 PM
"He always looks dead on court and does not seem to be enjoying his game".

That sums up any negative feelings I have on him very accurately. I must say he has a nice game. Very deceptive and I like the inclusion of offpace stuff. I always like players when they include some good ol' offpace junk. :)

But if his personality was anything like his brother's he would certainly be an easier to like player.

Also personally the fact that he is English doesn't work to his advantage. Also being English, but not being terribly patriotic, (I root against England in football for instance*) I am also putoff by the biased support he receives from the TV commentary in this country. I think I might have liked Henman, who also had a nice game, more over the years if I also didn't have to put up with that same biased coverage there.

As he does have a nice game I might warm to him in time. Then again, maybe not. We will see.

*Yes, I will be rooting for Russia to qualify for the European Championships at England's expensive. Funnily enough, however, I do like Scotland in football and would be happy to see them get by France or Italy.

ezekiel
10-30-2007, 06:23 PM
Boring, Creepy looking moonballer
You are not that far off :eek:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/customavatars/avatar10061_17.gif

scoobs
10-30-2007, 06:25 PM
"He always looks dead on court and does not seem to be enjoying his game".

That sums up any negative feelings I have on him very accurately. I must say he has a nice game. Very deceptive and I like the inclusion of offpace stuff. I always like players when they include some good ol' offpace junk. :)

But if his personality was anything like his brother's he would certainly be an easier to like player.

Also personally the fact that he is English doesn't work to his advantage. Also being English, but not being terribly patriotic, (I root against England in football for instance*) I am also putoff by the biased support he receives from the TV commentary in this country. I think I might have liked Henman, who also had a nice game, more over the years if I also didn't have to put up with that same biased coverage there.

As he does have a nice game I might warm to him in time. Then again, maybe not. We will see.

*Yes, I will be rooting for Russia to qualify for the European Championships at England's expensive. Funnily enough, however, I do like Scotland in football and would be happy to see them get by France or Italy.
He is Scottish. ::)

ezekiel
10-30-2007, 06:28 PM
Andy is a teenager, wait he is 20 already :o , well anyway at that time there is lots of pressure and hormones and stuff and he feels he can't match it so he is belittling himself ,acting childish and sad so he can be free . I used to be the same way but once you get over it and I don't have some magic formula , you feel much better. The question is how much it's going to last for him to overcome it because frankly it can last for years and take a major cut of his career

Metis
10-30-2007, 06:30 PM
I like Murray but I can see why people are put off by his on court attitude. I used to find it funny but now I think it's time for him to start showing some maturity.

Chris Seahorse
10-30-2007, 06:34 PM
He is Scottish. ::)

I am fully aware of that. I don't root against or for teams or players solely because they are English or because they are British, I just don't automatically support them either. In Murray's case, neither the fact that he IS British or the fact that he ISN'T English affect my feelings towards him one way or the other. But the media coverage he receives living in the UK does make difference however.

In the case of football I think I can still support the Scottish football side because a) They are not overhyped over here like the English side are and b) their players and fans don't make a habit of embarressing themselves.

Andi-M
10-30-2007, 06:37 PM
-He's ugly.
-He's british and therefore overhyped. Most promising newcomer in sports, anyone ?
-He's rude, foul mouthed.
-He plays negative; moonball, junkball you name it even though he can do so much better.
-His coach is Brad Gilbert.
-His brother is annoying.
-Did I mention his looks ? Bad, bad teeth + curly hair -> ask to be punch in the face.

1. beauty is in the eye of the beholder
2. overhyped....he isn't hyped up half as much as tiger tim yet he's twice as talented.
3. Emotional...shall we say
4. He plays an all court game has ability to manipulate pace play angles and dropshots as well- unlike the brainless ball bashers, and big servers who cant hit a FH or BH to save their lives.
5. Brad Gilbert is a fantastic coach - look at his CV
6. Annoying ...ok i give u that one :p
7. See 1

( i think Andy is very cute!!)

DrJules
10-30-2007, 06:47 PM
Very good and talented player but for some reason he's not one of the most liked players. Why do you think that is?

I think his unpopularity is exaggerated.

I do not think he is perceived of time wasting and using injury breaks at stategic times like Djokovic or time wasting like Nadal.

In reality, I think these 2 players are not the sensitive type that care what people think of them.

Fee
10-30-2007, 06:57 PM
-He's ugly.
-Did I mention his looks ? Bad, bad teeth + curly hair -> ask to be punch in the face.

You'll be posting your photo soon, yeah?

I like Murray but I can see why people are put off by his on court attitude. I used to find it funny but now I think it's time for him to start showing some maturity.

This I agree with.

I became a Murray convert the week he won San Jose for the first time. He was very polite to all of the tournament staff, and he genuinely tried to sign every autograph that was asked of him. It was the first time I had seen him play in person and the variety of his game was much more obvious that way. He's a horrible dresser, and he really should go with Federer next time he's out for an $800 haircut, but his 'sloppiness' is kind of endearing in a way.

Yeah, his on-court attitude could use some adjusting, especially since it seems to affect his game, but I won't hold it against him. I've learned in the last few years that the same player can be a complete jerk on court, and a generous, loving, funny man off court. Murray's peers seem to like him, that has to count for something.

I don't live in England, so I can't speak to the hype, but Andy didn't create that, so I can't blame him for it.

Horatio Caine
10-30-2007, 07:05 PM
Boring, Creepy looking moonballer

:haha: :haha:

...at least he isn't a boring, creepy looking slaphead though. :p

Mike Kim
10-30-2007, 07:51 PM
I am fully aware of that. I don't root against or for teams or players solely because they are English or because they are British, I just don't automatically support them either. In Murray's case, neither the fact that he IS British or the fact that he ISN'T English affect my feelings towards him one way or the other. But the media coverage he receives living in the UK does make difference however.

In the case of football I think I can still support the Scottish football side because a) They are not overhyped over here like the English side are and b) their players and fans don't make a habit of embarressing themselves.

You are an honest and fair person because most Scots have a chip on their shoulder and always want England to fail at most sports, and won't admit that England is a far superior country to theirs, in terms of talent and quality of sport. Scots are probably the most bitter of any country I can think of.

In terms of the football, it's quite funny to see a team of no bodies achieving good results whilst England a team who has man for man far superior players in every position I would think struggle against terrible opposition. Just shows what passion and heart can do when there is a lack of talent.

scoobs
10-30-2007, 07:54 PM
I am fully aware of that. I don't root against or for teams or players solely because they are English or because they are British, I just don't automatically support them either. In Murray's case, neither the fact that he IS British or the fact that he ISN'T English affect my feelings towards him one way or the other. But the media coverage he receives living in the UK does make difference however.

In the case of football I think I can still support the Scottish football side because a) They are not overhyped over here like the English side are and b) their players and fans don't make a habit of embarressing themselves.
I dare say. However the point I was making was that in your paragraph you referred to him as English.

spriwi
10-30-2007, 07:59 PM
he s engagement sometimes seems a bit elusive ...

R.Federer
10-30-2007, 08:28 PM
I like the Muzz man. I would much rather have players who moan and whine (as unpleasant as that is) about themselves and to themselves rather than those who take it out on the hapless linespeople or blindspeople as it sometimes turns out.
I also like his somewhat immature side calling things as they are, like Hingis used to be. Such as with hoping anyone beats England in soccer etc :lol:

He makes good press. :cool:

Tommy fan
10-30-2007, 08:33 PM
I hate Gibert.

Murray's attitude can be very annoying and there is also something annoying o his face, but I don't know what..

FedererSlam
10-30-2007, 08:45 PM
Exceptional talent who I support. But I didn't like the business supporting Paraguay though he is forgiven. He's an ugly bugger and it would be nice if he smiled once a week but honestly I don't care his tennis speaks for itself.

yeh yeh
10-30-2007, 08:45 PM
yeh he is a bit weird like that but you know hes a pure perfectionist. He was caining verdasco on sunday and about to win and still moaned at himself for missing points, i mean he should cut that sh** out really but hes quality apart from that. i mean it was funny hearing him moan at himself when he was a few points away from the match pure perfectionist and another thing HAVE YOU NOTICED
HE NEVER MOANS AT ANYONE ELSE APART FROM HIMSELF AND SOMETIMES HIS COACH. he never gets foul mouthed to the other player, unlike people like roddick and others who constantly moan at the other players and what about safin and gonzalez how can you say murray is a brat when you see some other players go on like they do. roddick is quality to wathc but can be a fuckin arsehole at times

Henry Chinaski
10-30-2007, 08:55 PM
You are an honest and fair person because most Scots have a chip on their shoulder and always want England to fail at most sports, and won't admit that England is a far superior country to theirs, in terms of talent and quality of sport. Scots are probably the most bitter of any country I can think of.



Perhaps it's because of smug bullshit like the above that makes Scots want England to fail at sports.

foul_dwimmerlaik
10-30-2007, 09:04 PM
He has a type of game that I dislike. Nice touch and strategic thinking, but all that retrieveing and junkballing annoy me. He's a bit like Hingis, whom I also don't like. The fact that he looks like a circus freak and always seems to be pissed off at something or other, doesn't help matters either.

Regenbogen
10-30-2007, 09:06 PM
I think his attitude is sort of amusing and his game is fun to watch. I liked him from the first time I saw him play. I can see how he'd be annoying to some people though. :shrug:

Allure
10-30-2007, 09:12 PM
Difficult to like him? :confused:

He's very talented, passionate, exciting to watch, has a GREAT game (when he's on, of course) - :secret: at times he even makes me think of a very young Fed!

If he manages to keep his head together and avoid injuries, I think he has a great future ahead of him, *despite* all the Brits hyping him. :yeah:

:haha:

Allure
10-30-2007, 09:12 PM
yeh he is a bit weird like that but you know hes a pure perfectionist. He was caining verdasco on sunday and about to win and still moaned at himself for missing points, i mean he should cut that sh** out really but hes quality apart from that. i mean it was funny hearing him moan at himself when he was a few points away from the match pure perfectionist and another thing HAVE YOU NOTICED
HE NEVER MOANS AT ANYONE ELSE APART FROM HIMSELF AND SOMETIMES HIS COACH. he never gets foul mouthed to the other player, unlike people like roddick and others who constantly moan at the other players and what about safin and gonzalez how can you say murray is a brat when you see some other players go on like they do. roddick is quality to wathc but can be a fuckin arsehole at times

:haha:

jonny84
10-30-2007, 09:23 PM
I like Andy - and lets face it he is the best thing that the U.K. have got as a tennis player.

One thing though - he was rude to Sue Barker one year at Wimbledon that I didnt like. Sue suggested in a jovial manner that we rename Henman Hill, "Murray Mount", and he was like to her " I dont care

leng jai
10-30-2007, 09:26 PM
We're all highly jealous of his handsome facial features.

Henry Chinaski
10-30-2007, 09:29 PM
How dare he give an honest answer to a dumbass question from an annoying botoxed sychophant.

l_mac
10-30-2007, 09:31 PM
You are an honest and fair person because most Scots have a chip on their shoulder and always want England to fail at most sports, and won't admit that England is a far superior country to theirs, in terms of talent and quality of sport. Scots are probably the most bitter of any country I can think of.

In terms of the football, it's quite funny to see a team of no bodies achieving good results whilst England a team who has man for man far superior players in every position I would think struggle against terrible opposition. Just shows what passion and heart can do when there is a lack of talent.

:haha:

Stormer of a post.

cmurray
10-30-2007, 09:32 PM
What's not to like? His game is just fabulous to watch. He's all creativity and clever shots and intelligence. The fact that he's sulky and grumpy just adds to the appeal. :lol:

Jogy
10-30-2007, 09:36 PM
because he does not have the lobby like Federer who could murder people and he would still do nothing wrong

wcr
10-30-2007, 09:38 PM
Because he behaves badly with a game that is as ugly as Brad Gilbert's?

His family lives near people I know who claim Andy Murray is a great kid.

What's odd is Brad Gilbert's reaction a few years ago to Myskina when she was televised mouthing off at her coach during a match. It might have been the AO but since she's done this more than once, I can't be sure. Anyhoo ... cut to the ESPN booth and there you have a few of the usual suspects and Brad Gilbert reviewing Myskina's outburst. One of the fellow sportscasters asked Gilbert what he thought of the incident. Brad gestured with his hand to his throat that he'd cut off the relationship with such a player. He went on to say he'd never take that conduct from a player with whom he worked, or words to that effect. I've seen Murray behave as badly as Myskina toward Brad during matches. Brad's still around. Could it be the paycheck from the AELTC? Or did Brad find that under all the tirades there is something lovable about all these tennis screwballs?

FiBeR
10-30-2007, 09:44 PM
i dont dislike murray but i dont think i like him either :shrug:

he is the kind of player whose face looks as if he was mean ,and a look in his eyes says that too :shrug:

he choked big matches..(2 sets up.. or a set up..etc) and i hope he does ok in the future but i dont know.. you just dont feel a connection with his game whenever you watch him..its like.. not spectacular imo :o

:hug:

yeh yeh
10-30-2007, 09:52 PM
:haha:

I guess its just another gullable old yank on here. silly old yanky doodles. especially this mug

Mike Kim
10-30-2007, 09:57 PM
Perhaps it's because of smug bullshit like the above that makes Scots want England to fail at sports.

Exactly my point, no one can dispute that England is a superior sporting nation unless they are a bitter Scot. But they can't be honest can they? Instead they think its English being smug. It's a shame the Scots will never achieve their own success, and not have to bathe in Englandís failure. Itís a shame that Scotland is a part of UK, the Welsh and Irish are fair and true people, but the Scottish let us all down. Let the losers compete as Scotland in everything, and then they will have something to really worry about instead of England.

Corey Feldman
10-30-2007, 10:07 PM
Exactly my point, no one can dispute that England is a superior sporting nation unless they are a bitter Scot. But they can't be honest can they? Instead they think its English being smug. It's a shame the Scots will never achieve their own success, and not have to bathe in England’s failure. It’s a shame that Scotland is a part of UK, the Welsh and Irish are fair and true people, but the Scottish let us all down. Let the losers compete as Scotland in everything, and then they will have something to really worry about instead of England.Listen Jimmy Hill..

our Football IS better than yours, everything good about tennis is Scottish not English, our Snooker players are better, our golfers are better, we are a better laugh, our woman are hotter and ppl like the Germans, Argies, French, Spanish - whole world dont hate us...
i bet you are one of those English who think having a decent rugby and cricket team is all that, considering nearly 95% of the planet hate and dont play those poofy sports :lol:

just accept the Haggis rules the English Rose and stop your crying just because an English Davis Cup team wouldnt even beat Burkina Faso on grass right now.

The Pro
10-30-2007, 10:09 PM
How dare he give an honest answer to a dumbass question from an annoying botoxed sychophant.

Well she's more or less beyond reproach in the UK. But he was rude anyhow, in just a dull surly way. I mean even Sharapova was more responsive to Sue Barker's smiley interview technique.

I think he's awfully dry and his on court moaning is irritating. It would only take a little bit more energy and personality to make me like him though....

Allure
10-30-2007, 10:30 PM
I guess its just another gullable old yank on here. silly old yanky doodles. especially this mug

Roddick may be a lot of things but calling him a mug is harsh. :awww:

cmorais24
10-30-2007, 10:30 PM
He is an extraordinary tennis player. However has a dificult personality...wich is not necessarily bad! Tennis needs all kind of good players!

Sunset of Age
10-30-2007, 10:31 PM
:haha:

Let's see in a couple of years, okay? ;)

FiBeR
10-30-2007, 10:52 PM
escude :hug:

Farenhajt
10-30-2007, 10:57 PM
It's not difficult to like him. It's only extremely difficult to see him as Current Slash Next Big Thing In World Tennis.

Raquel
10-30-2007, 10:57 PM
I love Muzza :rocker2:!

Great to see someone from Scotland up there :yeah: and his game is great to watch :)

Corey Feldman
10-30-2007, 11:01 PM
escude :hug:Hello mate :hug:
welcome to this world :p

It's only extremely difficult to see him as Current Slash Next Big Thing In World Tennis:tape: Same for you know who.

I love Muzza :rocker2:! I love Raquel :rocker2:!

Deivid23
10-30-2007, 11:07 PM
I didn´t like him in his first months on tour, now I do. Go Andy

Corey Feldman
10-30-2007, 11:09 PM
I didn´t like him in his first months on tour, now I do. Go AndyParrot! :D :wavey:

found a school yet ??

Deivid23
10-30-2007, 11:14 PM
Parrot! :D :wavey:

found a school yet ??

Watch your language or youīll be banned for 10000000 time, parrot ;)

Corey Feldman
10-30-2007, 11:16 PM
:lol: :lol:

yeh yeh
10-30-2007, 11:21 PM
Roddick may be a lot of things but calling him a mug is harsh. :awww:

not roddick you sonny

buddyholly
10-30-2007, 11:44 PM
WOW just as I posted this thread I read this on Eurosport:


Murray in Paris car crash



It is a conspiracy by the Duke of Edinburgh to prevent a Scot becoming the ''People's favourite.''

As for not liking him, well he is a Scot and supposed to be dour.

He may be the best thing to come along since McEnroe. Without Gilbert's pushing him into a serious injury in Hamburg he would have qualified for Shanghai long ago.

Fee
10-31-2007, 12:19 AM
Exactly my point, no one can dispute that England is a superior sporting nation unless they are a bitter Scot. But they can't be honest can they? Instead they think its English being smug. It's a shame the Scots will never achieve their own success, and not have to bathe in Englandís failure. Itís a shame that Scotland is a part of UK, the Welsh and Irish are fair and true people, but the Scottish let us all down. Let the losers compete as Scotland in everything, and then they will have something to really worry about instead of England.

Awesome. I think the English, Irish, and Scottish sides of my heritage are all offended by this post.

OrinUK
10-31-2007, 12:20 AM
I love his brother more! Jamie is loads of fun .

MatchFederer
10-31-2007, 12:24 AM
..Because his on court demeanour is very irritating, at least to me. However, his recent tennis is TMC standard tennis, so do well in Paris will you Murray.

trixtah
10-31-2007, 12:45 AM
I thought he was a dickweed at first--likewise with Djokovic--but after continuing to follow and watch their performances, I've since changed my mind...

Henry Chinaski
10-31-2007, 12:53 AM
Exactly my point, no one can dispute that England is a superior sporting nation unless they are a bitter Scot. But they can't be honest can they? Instead they think its English being smug. It's a shame the Scots will never achieve their own success, and not have to bathe in Englandís failure. Itís a shame that Scotland is a part of UK, the Welsh and Irish are fair and true people, but the Scottish let us all down. Let the losers compete as Scotland in everything, and then they will have something to really worry about instead of England.

http://local.homeranch.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/kid-fishing.JPG

good effort.

TennisGal
10-31-2007, 01:17 AM
he's overhyped here - its the british mentality, makes u hate any decent sportsperson that comes along. Also:

Scottish tennis sensation Andy Murray has employed Greg Rusedski as his new grinning coach, The Spoof can exclusively reveal. Murray requested the services of Rusedski after his former grinning coach quit, citing that getting Murray to smile was 'a lost and hopeless cause'.

Murray admits that tensions were high between he and hisformer employee and he is looking forward to working under Rusedski: "It should be fun. I'm looking forward to it immensely. I'm really, really excited", stated Murray, with a frown.

Fake Brit Rusedski, who hasn't stop grinning since 1992 as part of a Guinness world record attempt, is also relishing the challenge: "I think getting Murray to smile will be the biggest achievement of my career should I pull it off. Andy tells me he hasn't smiled since June 12th 1990 when his brother inexplicably farted during an episode of Dallas, so this is going to be a tester. Besides, I've got nothing else to do with my time but work as a pundit for Sky Sports and talk absolute bullocks alongside Annabel Croft", said Rusedski with a smile, before singing his own version of R.E.M.'s 'Shiny Happy People'.

Rusedski was guarded when asked what methods he was going to employ in order to get the talented Scot to finally chuckle, but did offer some insight: "I may do my Kermit The Frog impersonation for starters, then I'm considering a Punch And Judy puppet show, and if all else fails, I'll probably just pop in a dvd of my tennis career".

Murray is wary of the inroads that young rivals such as Novak Djokovic and Marcos Baghdatis have made when it comes not only to their game but also to their ability to not look like a complete and utter miserable bastard during interviews and on the court: "I need to step it up. I've got to put in the hours if I want to make that crucial breakthrough. It's going to be hard but I'm willing to give 110 percent. Hopefully in a few months I'll be able to smile, but let's not get ahead of ourselves-I've got a long way to go", said Andy, before doing a rendition of 'Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head' and returning to the Stephen King novel 'Misery'.

Corey Feldman
10-31-2007, 02:21 AM
Welcome to MTF TennisGal :wavey:
interesting first post ....

LaTenista
10-31-2007, 03:01 AM
He curses on court more than a sailor. :eek:

And he spends the rest of the time yelling at Gilbert. :o

Combine that with constant mean looks on his face. :scared:

Allure
10-31-2007, 03:12 AM
I hate to say this but I think it's due to his looks. If I didn't like his game I would say he's quite scary looking. Also on the court, he looks very weak but can hit amazing winners.

brent-o
10-31-2007, 03:44 AM
I don't hate him but he's not one of my favorites. I don't know, I guess he just doesn't stand out to me as someone I want to root for.

Alex999
10-31-2007, 03:51 AM
Murray has an incredible talent and I can only hope that his haters will shut up soon. I don't have any doubt that Murray has a super bright future (I'm talking winning Grand Slams here).

Turquoise
10-31-2007, 05:07 AM
Andy Murray grew on me this year, and it's nothing to do with his looks ;) He's extremely talented; I like the way he varies his game mixing up the pace, returns well, chases down every ball... I even like his colourful language (especially when directed at his coach).

Action Jackson
10-31-2007, 05:11 AM
Brad Gilbert.

martine2
10-31-2007, 07:08 AM
He's talented. I like his game but not his personality and most of all... I hate this jerk-coach of his. YUK!

gjr
10-31-2007, 08:09 AM
I like him myself. He's got great potential. Even now at 20 he can give any player a decent game (Ok, maybe not Roger on grass or Nadal on clay). Without injuries this year he would be top 8 IMO. It's still possible for him to finish the year top 8 but it's going to take one massive effort.

Next year I see him breaking into the top 4 with Fed, Rafa and Nole. Fed is going to have at least 3 young guns to deal with next year and it's going to get harder for him to fight them all off.

I also like him cause he is scruffy, a bit unruly and a little annoying at times. It creates character and in a few years he will probably become more mature and maybe even chill out a bit more on court. I think Fed said at the start of his career he was a right so & so and he turned out not too bad :)

As an Englishman I love the fact that he is Scotish. He shows just how far behind English and British tennis is behind everyone else. Lets face it us Brits have had an offcast Canadian and Tim for the last 10 years and no-one else. Tim had an OK career but I think Andy can and will win more than Tim did.

My one gripe about Andy is he seems to go walk about in the 2nd set. He can be 1 set up and a break up and find himself in a losing position before he gets his game back. That needs to change and hopfully will in the next couple of years. I hope in a couple of years he is right up there challanging for the slams.

As for the hype, I like Andy don't give 2 hoots about it. They can build him up and knock him down as much as they want but Andy won't give a damn.

Love him or hate him, he is not going away for a long time.

Apemant
10-31-2007, 08:57 AM
Who says it's difficult... I find it easy, hehehe. Really easy indeed.

adee-gee
10-31-2007, 11:24 AM
I love him but my dad doesn't. My dad says it's annoying how the bbc hypes him up to be something my dad believes he isn't and my dad also didn't like people comparing him to Djokovic.
Good reason to dislike him. How dare he make other people hype him up.
You are an honest and fair person because most Scots have a chip on their shoulder and always want England to fail at most sports, and won't admit that England is a far superior country to theirs, in terms of talent and quality of sport. Scots are probably the most bitter of any country I can think of.
:haha: :haha: :haha:

This almost sounded bitter about the fact you've got 10 times the population in England yet still can't produce a decent sportsman :awww:
Listen Jimmy Hill..

our Football IS better than yours, everything good about tennis is Scottish not English, our Snooker players are better, our golfers are better, we are a better laugh, our woman are hotter and ppl like the Germans, Argies, French, Spanish - whole world dont hate us...
i bet you are one of those English who think having a decent rugby and cricket team is all that, considering nearly 95% of the planet hate and dont play those poofy sports :lol:

just accept the Haggis rules the English Rose and stop your crying just because an English Davis Cup team wouldnt even beat Burkina Faso on grass right now.
:worship:

EKSTREMISTA
10-31-2007, 11:25 AM
I dont like him because he is Scotish who plays under the flag of UK.

keqtqiadv
10-31-2007, 11:27 AM
http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/players/headtohead/default.asp?playernum1=MC10&playernum2=P280

:)

danton
10-31-2007, 11:37 AM
I dont like him because he is Scotish who plays under the flag of UK.


:rolleyes:

He's from the UK and that's a nasty biggoted reason not to like someone.

alansk
10-31-2007, 11:40 AM
I dont like him because he is Scotish who plays under the flag of UK.

:confused:

The Pro
10-31-2007, 12:20 PM
I dont like him because he is Scotish who plays under the flag of UK.

He doesn't really have a choice in the matter and he's not so churlish and nationalistic to object.

It is the 21st century after all. We're all friends now! :D

The Pro
10-31-2007, 12:35 PM
Despite what idiots like Mike Kim say....

Andi-M
10-31-2007, 12:39 PM
I dont like him because he is Scotish who plays under the flag of UK.

Where do you think Scotlond is....Asia?

Besides the only time any plaer represents any nation is Davis Cup or Olympics. 99% of the time he represents himself :D

Fee
10-31-2007, 07:46 PM
I dont like him because he is Scotish who plays under the flag of UK.

Is this a duplicate account? Come on, you can tell us.

ezekiel
10-31-2007, 09:34 PM
Is this a duplicate account? Come on, you can tell us.

I doubt it but someone should check it out . It seems like a prank post

star
10-31-2007, 10:36 PM
He has actually gained in popularity in recent months on this forum I've noticed. He used to be almost to the point of loathing from some quarters in here.

Yeah. But then he proved to be no serious threat to Federer so the loathing died down. It all went to Djokovic. :)

Corey Feldman
10-31-2007, 10:41 PM
But then he proved to be no serious threat to Federer so the loathing died downHe got injured.

lets wait for 08.

Fee
10-31-2007, 11:19 PM
Murray could definitely be a Top 5 player by this time next year if he can stay healthy and keep his head together.

cmurray
11-01-2007, 01:22 AM
Murray could definitely be a Top 5 player by this time next year if he can stay healthy and keep his head together.

Of that I have no doubt. I wouldn't categorically say that he's no threat to Federer. I think Murray is getting better all the time. Who knows who he might be a threat to next year....

buddyholly
11-01-2007, 01:42 AM
Scots are probably the most bitter of any country I can think of.



I'd hazard a guess that Scotland and Wales are the only two foreign countries you've ever heard of.