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Choketastic Dahveed Goes Down 3-6 6-7 0-6 To Gaudio

BaselineSmash
06-04-2004, 01:36 PM
Not to undersell Gaudio's performance too much...but that was terrible from Nalbandian. The third set was a total tank. Who would have thought it...

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-04-2004, 01:38 PM
Yeah, ugh, this sucks! Damn you David. It's reeeeeeeeaaaaaallly funny though. Well, screw this, I aint watchin' the match then.

Howlman
06-04-2004, 02:45 PM
Tankin AS USUAL!!!!!!!

jazz_girl
06-04-2004, 02:59 PM
what do you mean as usual?

Shy
06-04-2004, 03:42 PM
Always the bridemaid, never the bride.

Havok
06-04-2004, 04:15 PM
Ugh I hate it when people tank sets, but even if Dahveed tried, I don't think he could have done much vs Gaudio in that finas set. Pretty pathetic that a top 10 players in a semifinal of a Slam (of all places) tanks in his match

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-04-2004, 04:22 PM
He should have never let him come back in the 2nd set, ugh

Action Jackson
06-04-2004, 04:30 PM
He should have never let him come back in the 2nd set, ugh

I forgot David likes Gaston so much he said I will let you have a few games.

CarnivalCarnage
06-04-2004, 04:49 PM
I forgot David likes Gaston so much he said I will let you have a few games.

Shut up.

Action Jackson
06-04-2004, 04:56 PM
Shut up.

Thank you my hero and I love you too.

Aleksa's Laydee
06-04-2004, 05:38 PM
*cough* choker, that was terrible david, i thought you'd win instead u lost badly :(

Chloe le Bopper
06-04-2004, 08:49 PM
Nice to see gaudio getting lots of credit in this thread.

IMO, David wasn't the favourite in that match that many people seem to have assumed that he was. Gaudio is better than him on clay, and those are the ropes.

Roland Garros has always been Davids worst slam and always will be, imo (I don't care that he's gone a round further than in Australia - he'll go farther in Australia someday and has posted a good result there more than once). Instead of bagging on him, perhaps he should get some credit for doing so amazing on his worst surface? But no... that praise is reserved for Henman and Hewitt. :rolleyes:

Dirk
06-04-2004, 09:07 PM
David has a clay title so I wouldn't say he can't play great on clay. I do agree its his worst surface.

Sjengster
06-04-2004, 09:09 PM
True, true Rebecca, but I think people already knew that despite it being his weakest surface he's already achieved more on it than Henman and Hewitt - like winning a clay title for instance (a real one, unlike Delray Beach which Hewitt won), and getting to a TMS final on clay which neither of the above two have managed. It's a tough surface for him because he has less margin for error than most of the other Argentine players, but he's still more suited to it through his movement and power than either Henman or Hewitt.

Chloe le Bopper
06-04-2004, 09:11 PM
David has a clay title so I wouldn't say he can't play great on clay. I do agree its his worst surface.
Nobody has ever said that he can't play on it. Just that it is his worst surface. That's all.

Hewitt has a clay title too (okay, so it's a *really* lame one, but he has some good wins on the stuff to go with it), and Henman isn't actually ass on clay. But when they do well on clay it's just like, the most amazing thing ever. When Nalbandian loses in the semis of his worst slam, upgrading his previous best result by 3 rounds... he all of a sudden is a choking bridesmaid? Bah, that's very frustrating.

Btw, my rant isn't addressing you Dirk. It's addressing the comments (and lack there of) about Nalbandian in general.

Chloe le Bopper
06-04-2004, 09:12 PM
True, true Rebecca, but I think people already knew that despite it being his weakest surface he's already achieved more on it than Henman and Hewitt - like winning a clay title for instance (a real one, unlike Delray Beach which Hewitt won), and getting to a TMS final on clay which neither of the above two have managed. It's a tough surface for him because he has less margin for error than most of the other Argentine players, but he's still more suited to it through his movement and power than either Henman or Hewitt.
I understand that, but still... this was a fantastic result for him. If he ever wins a slam, it won't be RG. So I'm not sure why anybody was seriously expecting a title here. Hoping for it, sure. But expecting? Bah

Marrahorra
06-04-2004, 09:12 PM
Davide said he had a problem with the stomach... some disc in him was uncomfy

so maybe he just couldnt keep up his level with the pain??

Chloe le Bopper
06-04-2004, 09:14 PM
Davide said he had a problem with the stomach... some disc in him was uncomfy

so maybe he just couldnt keep up his level with the pain??
Apparently his ribs are bothering him, but seeing as he's planning on playing next week, it can't be that serious. I'm going to watch the match tonight before I make any official comment on it, but I would imagine gaudio was just too good and that is what deflated him in the final set.

Sjengster
06-04-2004, 09:21 PM
The play was really dictated by Nalbandian, Gaudio was very consistent and only made 3 unforced errors in the first set but he was returning everything deep and with spin and then attacking when he had the chance; Nalbandian was the one who took the risks and had a lot of success in hitting Gaudio off the court, and he was just a couple of shots away from levelling the match in the second set. Gaudio has the more natural clay-court game, but Nalbandian wasn't completely lost out there like Hewitt was in the previous round; he just couldn't keep hitting the winners without making the errors in the process, and it was too great a physical test with his rib for him to come back once he'd lost that second set.

Dr. Laborious
06-04-2004, 09:30 PM
Gaudio played a great match. He won the first set and got into a bit of a slump in the second when Nalbandian upped the pace. However, at 5-1 he got control and never lost it. I think Nalbandian's "choking" has a lot to do with Gaudio just not letting up, remember what he did the last round against Hewitt.

Of course you would expect a better fight from Nalbandian in the third set, but going 2-0 in sets down after having a 5-1 lead while seeing that your opponent is playing great tennis without showing any weaknesses... he found himself not knowing what to do.

Choking is definitely a wrong word to use here. Nalbandian is a very streaky player who finds it hard mentally to come back when things aren't going his way. What struck me most in this match is that I don't think he believed he could do it from the moment he stepped on the court. Against Safin and Kuerten he seemed to have a real air about him, getting annoyed when things weren't happening but confident he could pull off that same shot the next time it came to him. This time however the confidence was missing. When he missed a shot it looked like he didn't even belief himself that he could have pulled that one off. In the end he threw it away,should have fought harder but no-one really thought he could come back and Nalbandian seemed to be the most pessimistic of all.

Sjengster
06-04-2004, 09:39 PM
Well, I think Gaudio's mental toughness in sticking in that second set surprised him - heck, it certainly surprised me, I kept expecting him to throw the set away with sloppy play or else choke the tiebreak, but he didn't and reserved his match-winning down the line backhand for the biggest points, to break back for 5-5 and to set up the finishing overhead in the breaker.

Supersonik
06-05-2004, 07:15 AM
Good to see some people trying to discredit Gaudio in here. The fact was David did not tank this match, David was just outgunned and yes he was trying to the end and he was attempting to hit winners, but Gaudio won the mental battle nd after coming back from 1-5 down, that along with the rib problem crushed him mentally. It seems some people think Nalbandian who gave it away are confusing him with Rios.

Chloe le Bopper
06-05-2004, 07:26 AM
Apparently his ribs are bothering him, but seeing as he's planning on playing next week, it can't be that serious. I'm going to watch the match tonight before I make any official comment on it, but I would imagine gaudio was just too good and that is what deflated him in the final set.
Having seen the match now, it seems that I was correct in my assumption. Nalbandian did not tank the match. People who tank a set do not waste their time running balls down and trying to hit winners off of them. He was just deflated and didn't have it between the ears at that point. That doesn't mean he wasn't trying. In fact, I didn't find his behavior in that last set petulant at all. He was jsut dissapointed that he couldn't get it together.

WyveN
06-05-2004, 08:47 AM
While David may not have choked in this match there is a big question mark over him in big matches, it is amazing a player of his skill has not won a title in so long and his performances in finals leave a lot of question marks.

FryslanBoppe
06-05-2004, 08:50 AM
While David may not have choked in this match there is a big question mark over him in big matches, it is amazing a player of his skill has not won a title in so long and his performances in finals leave a lot of question marks.

Lendl overcame this problem early in his career, and I think David can, but I am not sure about him winning 7 Slams though.

WyveN
06-05-2004, 08:58 AM
Lendl overcame this problem early in his career, and I think David can, but I am not sure about him winning 7 Slams though.

true, that amazing win in the 84 FO helped Lendl and it is getting to the stage where David will need a big win like that to give him confidence in key final matches

FryslanBoppe
06-05-2004, 09:00 AM
true, that amazing win in the 84 FO helped Lendl and it is getting to the stage where David will need a big win like that to give him confidence in key final matches

He so needs a big win just to fully establish himself and also it will piss off all the people that still don't rate him and someone like him should win a TMS title at least, though that second serve needs improving.

GWH told me that the Aus commentators were calling Nalle's belly a winter coat and they were worshipping the Gaston backhand, is that true?

WyveN
06-05-2004, 09:07 AM
GWH told me that the Aus commentators were calling Nalle's belly a winter coat and they were worshipping the Gaston backhand, is that true?

Gaudio backhand was definetly worshipped and hopefully they do appreciate it and not just praising it because he beat Hewitt which they have done in the past.

Missed the belly winter coat comment :lol:

FryslanBoppe
06-05-2004, 09:23 AM
Gaudio backhand was definetly worshipped and hopefully they do appreciate it and not just praising it because he beat Hewitt which they have done in the past.

Missed the belly winter coat comment :lol:

That wouldn't surprise me at all, at least they don't have Tim Henman's father Gerry Williams doing the commentary, you should check out the clown on the Argentine resentment thread.

G.O.
06-05-2004, 10:36 AM
No need. I'm right here.

Nalbandian, will be fortunate if he wins 3 slams. His serve is weak, can't play net, and as soon as he reaches 24 years will begin do lose interest. Sorry to bring the bad news. None of the Argentinians will last long. They rely too much on their wheels, for most tennis players begin to lossen in the mid-twenties. And and they'll get bored before that I'm sure.

G.O.
06-05-2004, 10:37 AM
They need to learn to play more like Roddick. Kinda hard when your short though. Of all the current players Roddick has the best chance for a long career.

FryslanBoppe
06-05-2004, 10:42 AM
They need to learn to play more like Roddick. Kinda hard when your short though. Of all the current players Roddick has the best chance for a long career.

Do you write your own stuff, this is some of the best stuff on this board in recent history, keep it up.

G.O.
06-05-2004, 10:43 AM
I'm glad your enjoying it so much.

WyveN
06-05-2004, 10:45 AM
Of all the current players Roddick has the best chance for a long career.

With that service action I wouldnt bet on it

FryslanBoppe
06-05-2004, 10:46 AM
I'm glad your enjoying it so much.

Ok, semi-seriously why did you feel the need to bring Duckboy into an enjoyable thread? Apart from that all the jokes have been funny.

WyveN
06-05-2004, 10:47 AM
Nalbandian, will be fortunate if he wins 3 slams. His serve is weak, can't play net, and as soon as he reaches 24 years will begin do lose interest.


only 3 slams? That is horrible! by the way 3 slams by the age of 24 is a better return then Agassi got.

G.O.
06-05-2004, 10:52 AM
Duckboy? Andy's has beautiful lips. He get's ass. Duckboy's good.

Semi-serious? I have to decide. I'll get back to you.

SERIOUSLY. Andy will hurt himself sooner or later. Prob. later. But if not he can go a long way.

I meant what I said about Nalby. He'll probably only get a couple. Look at Hewitt. When the fire runs out, wha's left is an above averge player.

FryslanBoppe
06-05-2004, 10:55 AM
Duckboy? Andy's has beautiful lips. He get's ass. Duckboy's good.

Semi-serious? I have to decide. I'll get back to you.

SERIOUSLY. Andy will hurt himself sooner or later. Prob. later. But if not he can go a long way.

I meant what I said about Nalby. He'll probably only get a couple. Look at Hewitt. When the fire runs out, wha's left is an above averge player.

That's more like it, you never know you could be the MTF resident comedian, with antics like this, at least you are making an impact.

G.O.
06-05-2004, 10:58 AM
Exactly, we all need entertainment.


But, shhhh, quiet down with the "comedian comments". We want people to think I'm serious, right?

G.O.
06-05-2004, 10:59 AM
I can't believe ya'll Nalby fans. He's another grosjean. You'll see.

FryslanBoppe
06-05-2004, 11:02 AM
Exactly, we all need entertainment.


But, shhhh, quiet down with the "comedian comments". We want people to think I'm serious, right?

Ok, so you want me to tone them down do you? If it's a gag, then I will play along.

G.O.
06-05-2004, 11:06 AM
No, no, It's not really a gag.

What do you find so absurd? Please tell me. I need to gage you.

G.O.
06-05-2004, 11:08 AM
Hello?

Leaving so soon? I was just getting lathered up. Oh well, nice chatting with you.

FryslanBoppe
06-05-2004, 11:10 AM
No, no, It's not really a gag.

What do you find so absurd? Please tell me. I need to gage you.

You're cracking jokes I can't take anything you post seriously, that's why I am laughing and it's entertaining.

G.O.
06-05-2004, 11:14 AM
Should I be serious?

Actually the truth isn't far off from the jokes I'm afraid.

Maybe we should keep to one topic. I'm getting dizzy.

What of my points do you think are jokes? Please tell me.

FryslanBoppe
06-05-2004, 11:18 AM
All of your posts are full of jokes, even the Roddick ones. Believe it or not I don't mind talking tennis now and then, but some of the comments make me laugh too much.

G.O.
06-05-2004, 11:21 AM
I'mmm being prrrrettty seriousssssss. Sssssorta. How bout if we do code so you know when I'm joking and when I'm serious.

FryslanBoppe
06-05-2004, 11:23 AM
No, I will just take everything as a joke, it's easier that way until I can see otherwise.

G.O.
06-05-2004, 11:26 AM
What if it gets boring?

No no, i'm not saying it is. At least not yet?

I'm getting addicted to this shit.

sigmagirl91
06-05-2004, 02:45 PM
What if it gets boring?

No no, i'm not saying it is. At least not yet?

I'm getting addicted to this shit.

Shoo, troll, shoo.... :mad:

Chloe le Bopper
06-05-2004, 03:07 PM
No need. I'm right here.

Nalbandian, will be fortunate if he wins 3 slams. His serve is weak, can't play net, and as soon as he reaches 24 years will begin do lose interest. Sorry to bring the bad news. None of the Argentinians will last long. They rely too much on their wheels, for most tennis players begin to lossen in the mid-twenties. And and they'll get bored before that I'm sure.
Wow, only 2 or 3? I'm sure he'd be deeply deeply dissapointed if that ever actually came to be.

Chloe le Bopper
06-05-2004, 03:08 PM
only 3 slams? That is horrible! by the way 3 slams by the age of 24 is a better return then Agassi got.
Oh, you beat me to it ;)

I'll be happy if David just wins one ;) Or Hell, I'll settle for a TMS title at this point ;)

Chloe le Bopper
06-05-2004, 03:08 PM
Shoo, troll, shoo.... :mad:
No no... it's international troll week... every week!

jazz_girl
06-05-2004, 03:10 PM
Me too Becca...

sigmagirl91
06-05-2004, 03:12 PM
Wow, only 2 or 3? I'm sure he'd be deeply deeply dissapointed if that ever actually came to be.

I'm sure that he would check himself into Charter Ridge if he ever won 2 or 3 slams....time to book that space now, people... :eek:

sigmagirl91
06-05-2004, 03:14 PM
Duckboy? Andy's has beautiful lips. He get's ass. Duckboy's good.

Semi-serious? I have to decide. I'll get back to you.

SERIOUSLY. Andy will hurt himself sooner or later. Prob. later. But if not he can go a long way.

I meant what I said about Nalby. He'll probably only get a couple. Look at Hewitt. When the fire runs out, wha's left is an above averge player.

I see it's Week of the Psycho Troll. Are they taking donations for the "Delusional Troll Fund"....geez, you make troll-bashing fun....