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St. Petersburg F: [2] Murray def. Verdasco 62 63

Rogieva
10-28-2007, 04:19 PM
:)

nikita13
10-28-2007, 04:19 PM
Murray came out firing today.

Adler
10-28-2007, 04:20 PM
Keep it up budy and you'll have your terracotta statue :)

jitterbug
10-28-2007, 04:20 PM
Muzza :worship:

Cracking rally at match point!

MisterQ
10-28-2007, 04:21 PM
Congrats, Murray! :worship:

Goonergal
10-28-2007, 04:21 PM
Muz :rocker2:

Forehander
10-28-2007, 04:21 PM
too easy lol. very disappointing from Verdasco. He's mentally so crap

Frooty_Bazooty
10-28-2007, 04:21 PM
leningrad? :S

Shrinking Violet
10-28-2007, 04:23 PM
Really easy, he didn't even need to play that well. Nando was really poor.

Well done, Andy. Please, make it to Shanghai.:worship:

rocketassist
10-28-2007, 04:23 PM
That's why Mugdasco sucks- no way would he be firing in a big final like this. Muzza too good! :)

scoobs
10-28-2007, 04:24 PM
After the dramas of Dima and Misha, that felt like a routine 2nd round or something.

Well done Andy - great stuff off the ground, very patient and aggressive play when needed. Not so good off the serve but it wasn't needed, apparently.

Verdasco was, in all honesty, pretty terrible. Occasional patches of good shotmaking but for the most part he was rank bad out there. He was shouting at himself by the second game and his mood never lifted, and neither did his tennis. He's a bit lucky that wasn't 2 and 1.

Great to see Andy a winner again after the rotten wrist injury and great to see him showing his class for the race to Shanghai.

JustJames
10-28-2007, 04:24 PM
:banana:

Well done Muzza, very calmly done.. :yeah:

Verdasco and UE's = :help:

stebs
10-28-2007, 04:27 PM
Verdasco with a terrible day at the office although I was watching on stream so crappy I wanted to cry. Murray played some good stuff today but realistically most top 50 players could've beaten the Verdasco one man UE fest today.

In with a shot at the TMC. :)

danton
10-28-2007, 04:30 PM
Andy's first serve percentage was appalling though. After the first service game it was 0 at one point it was 29% for quite a while and then towards the end it crept up to 44% - he isn't going to beat Nole with that.

MaryX
10-28-2007, 04:30 PM
Leningrad and Fernando are both history now...

Well done Andy, and have a good time in Paris-I am looking forward to see the third round...

guga2120
10-28-2007, 04:31 PM
Great playing for Murray, hope he keeps this play up in the bigger tournaments.

Bilbo
10-28-2007, 04:32 PM
expected one

hra87
10-28-2007, 04:35 PM
The real #3!

Adler
10-28-2007, 04:37 PM
leningrad? :S
Just wanted to attract some attention :wavey:

musefanatic
10-28-2007, 04:42 PM
WOOP!!!! Go Andy!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: Great stuff and a seemingly easy win :) Keep it up!!! :)

Mateya
10-28-2007, 04:43 PM
And I had bet a little on Verdasco...

:worship: Muzza :worship:

krystlel
10-28-2007, 04:44 PM
Good solid performance from Murray. Verdasco didn't look threatening at all today.

So now Murray has done what he needed to do to put himself in contention for Shanghai. I hope he makes it, and it will be interesting to follow his progress in Paris this week.

musefanatic
10-28-2007, 04:50 PM
Does anyone know how many points he'll get from this?

MatchFederer
10-28-2007, 04:52 PM
50 race points I believe...

Well done Murray! I hope he puts in a strong performance in Paris, the TMC needs him.

musefanatic
10-28-2007, 04:53 PM
Ah thanks, that's pretty good, keeps him in good stead :)

aeronatasha
10-28-2007, 04:57 PM
Very good Murray! Great to see you shine again.

musefanatic
10-28-2007, 04:57 PM
According to the ATP website, he's up to 11th in the race :)

MariaV
10-28-2007, 05:08 PM
That was really great from Murray! :yeah: :hatoff: :worship: :bowdown:

Fer was the total headcase this time, too nervous and got down on himself right away, he talked to himself and his coach a lot. :scared: :lol:

Btw I saw Muzza on the Russian NTV+ tennis channel (host broadcaster) right after the final, he looked so :cool:! :yeah: :hatoff:
He told he liked St Petersburg a lot, the city, the hotel and the restaurants, and said he had even visited the Hermitage 'which was really cool" (Andy's words) :lol: :hatoff:
And he promised to be back defending the title next year. :D

scoobs
10-28-2007, 05:23 PM
My friend is sending me a copy of that interview.

Apparently they asked him, first time playing the tournament and he wins it, if he is now the boss of St Petersburg?

:lol:

Jelena_78
10-28-2007, 05:25 PM
Congrats Andy! :yeah:

crazillo
10-28-2007, 05:46 PM
Expected win, but it's really great for Murray to come back so strong - finally!

On the one hand I'd love to FINALLY see Haas at TMC, but on the other hand Murray was a lot better that fall - I don't know...

MariaV
10-28-2007, 05:51 PM
My friend is sending me a copy of that interview.

Apparently they asked him, first time playing the tournament and he wins it, if he is now the boss of St Petersburg?

:lol:
Oh yes they did. :lol: He said he wasn't sure about that.

He said the tournament was very well organized (it might've been a bit of a lip-service), the stands were full only yesterday and today. But at least ppl showed up for the final without a Russian player. :D

I quite like Andy's voice, I had never heard so long interviews from him. :o
And liked his attitude overall vs Tursunov and Youzhny. :hatoff:

Sunset of Age
10-28-2007, 05:57 PM
Well done Muzza. Now make it to Shanghai! :rocker2:

Corey Feldman
10-28-2007, 05:59 PM
Great result, Great week Haggis :yeah:

he avoided brain cramps today and won easily, now on to Paris..

dylan24
10-28-2007, 06:00 PM
good job murray

tennizen
10-28-2007, 06:00 PM
Great win. I hope he gets to Shanghai atleast as an alternate

Corey Feldman
10-28-2007, 06:02 PM
Just needs to win one more round than Haas, Blake and Robredo next week

hope Berdy and Gasquet dont win a round more than him

think a few others are in with a chance as well

Gl Muzza :lol:

Loremaster
10-28-2007, 06:24 PM
If Murrat makes TMC it will be plain stupid, sorry I don't know how a guy with such bad results at GS and above average can make TMC, cos he won a couple of MM tourneys , even Blake had better results in big events
And I like Murray game a lot, apart from that he looks disgusting not shaven

Look at guys who are still in run for TMC spot

- Ferrer(3 titles , SF at Open, QF in 5 TMS)
- Gonzalez (1 title, Final of AO final of TMS, 2 QF of TMS)
- Haas(1 title, SF of AO, QF of Open, QF of TMS)
- Robredo(2 titles, QF of AO and RG, 2 TMS QF)
- Blake (2 titles, F of TMS,QF of TMS)
- Gasquet (1 titles, SF of Slam, QF of TMS)

abd Murray is like Blake, and even so Blake manges to be in final of TMS , but I hope he won't make it his stamina his suspect so a trip to Paris and playing good could be too much for him. Out of that players I think unfortunatly Blake has the biggest chance to gt last spot because he can make one more round more than Robredo or Haas, but I hope Gasquet will recover and make good run at Paris

Avid Merrion
10-28-2007, 06:32 PM
well done Andy! :D

Merton
10-28-2007, 06:37 PM
Well done Andy, an excellent week for him and hopefully he has enough in the tank to play well in Paris. Whether he makes it to Shanghai or not is secoondary, the fact that he has fully recovered and he is putting so much effort is more important.

Disappointing performance for Nando, I felt that he had a decent chance in this final.

Lullaby
10-28-2007, 06:37 PM
If Murrat makes TMC it will be plain stupid, sorry I don't know how a guy with such bad results at GS and above average can make TMC, cos he won a couple of MM tourneys , even Blake had better results in big events
And I like Murray game a lot, apart from that he looks disgusting not shaven

Look at guys who are still in run for TMC spot

- Ferrer(3 titles , SF at Open, QF in 5 TMS)
- Gonzalez (1 title, Final of AO final of TMS, 2 QF of TMS)
- Haas(1 title, SF of AO, QF of Open, QF of TMS)
- Robredo(2 titles, QF of AO and RG, 2 TMS QF)
- Blake (2 titles, F of TMS,QF of TMS)
- Gasquet (1 titles, SF of Slam, QF of TMS)

abd Murray is like Blake, and even so Blake manges to be in final of TMS , but I hope he won't make it his stamina his suspect so a trip to Paris and playing good could be too much for him. Out of that players I think unfortunatly Blake has the biggest chance to gt last spot because he can make one more round more than Robredo or Haas, but I hope Gasquet will recover and make good run at Paris

What rubbish - he had decent gs and tms results prior to the injury, did not play rg and wim and was far from fit when he played the USO - If he makes it which I think he will not, he will deserve it.

I dont think he will make it but if he does, he is going there to take names ....

scoobs
10-28-2007, 06:48 PM
If Murrat makes TMC it will be plain stupid, sorry I don't know how a guy with such bad results at GS and above average can make TMC, cos he won a couple of MM tourneys , even Blake had better results in big events
And I like Murray game a lot, apart from that he looks disgusting not shaven

Look at guys who are still in run for TMC spot

- Ferrer(3 titles , SF at Open, QF in 5 TMS)
- Gonzalez (1 title, Final of AO final of TMS, 2 QF of TMS)
- Haas(1 title, SF of AO, QF of Open, QF of TMS)
- Robredo(2 titles, QF of AO and RG, 2 TMS QF)
- Blake (2 titles, F of TMS,QF of TMS)
- Gasquet (1 titles, SF of Slam, QF of TMS)

abd Murray is like Blake, and even so Blake manges to be in final of TMS , but I hope he won't make it his stamina his suspect so a trip to Paris and playing good could be too much for him. Out of that players I think unfortunatly Blake has the biggest chance to gt last spot because he can make one more round more than Robredo or Haas, but I hope Gasquet will recover and make good run at Paris
Are you kidding me with this?

People haven't been worrying about Murray's stamina for about 9 months now. His fitness is no longer an issue when he is injury free.

He made the 4th round of a slam, losing in 5 to the world #2 and then won a title, back to back semis of TMS events before injury decimated the middle of his season and took him out of any sort of contention at 5 TMS events and 2 Grand Slams, only really started to find his feet again at the US Open and since then has won a title, been to another final and lost another tight match to the #2 at a TMS event.

On top of that, he has posted wins over Federer, Davydenko, Gonzalez, Ferrer, Roddick and pushed Nadal very hard twice. Only his record against Djokovic is not good, so he has the calibre to play among these people competitively - something I'm far from convinced about with the likes of Gasquet, Berdych and Blake.

Were it not for his wrist problem he would already be there and we would not be having this discussion.

rocketassist
10-28-2007, 06:50 PM
If Murrat makes TMC it will be plain stupid, sorry I don't know how a guy with such bad results at GS and above average can make TMC, cos he won a couple of MM tourneys , even Blake had better results in big events
And I like Murray game a lot, apart from that he looks disgusting not shaven

Look at guys who are still in run for TMC spot

- Ferrer(3 titles , SF at Open, QF in 5 TMS)
- Gonzalez (1 title, Final of AO final of TMS, 2 QF of TMS)
- Haas(1 title, SF of AO, QF of Open, QF of TMS)
- Robredo(2 titles, QF of AO and RG, 2 TMS QF)
- Blake (2 titles, F of TMS,QF of TMS)
- Gasquet (1 titles, SF of Slam, QF of TMS)

abd Murray is like Blake, and even so Blake manges to be in final of TMS , but I hope he won't make it his stamina his suspect so a trip to Paris and playing good could be too much for him. Out of that players I think unfortunatly Blake has the biggest chance to gt last spot because he can make one more round more than Robredo or Haas, but I hope Gasquet will recover and make good run at Paris

If you seriously think Boredo and Blake deserve to be in Shanghai more than Murray then I pity you.

R.Federer
10-28-2007, 06:58 PM
Incredible week.

The REAL Number 3 :worship:

trixtah
10-28-2007, 07:01 PM
Waking up to snaggletooth's picture, I couldn't be happier

Make it deep in Paris!!

Jaap
10-28-2007, 07:02 PM
Whoremaster is just worried about the prospect of Murray beating his bitch - Roddick again in Shanghai.

Kitty de Sade
10-28-2007, 07:04 PM
Waking up to snaggletooth's picture, I couldn't be happier

Make it deep in Paris!!

That's just plain mean. He's working on his look- give him a break. :lol:

Nice going for Muzza- hope he has continued good luck in Paris. :yeah:

Corey Feldman
10-28-2007, 07:05 PM
If Murrat makes TMC it will be plain stupid, sorry I don't know how a guy with such bad results at GS and above average can make TMC, cos he won a couple of MM tourneys , even Blake had better results in big events He missed 2 GS's for a start, choked Vs Mowgli at the AO when he was all over him and was about 50% fit at the US Open..
he's basically lost half a season and is still up there.

without the layoff he would have been well in.

Waking up to snaggletooth's picture, I couldn't be happier :lol:
:hug:

MariaV
10-28-2007, 07:05 PM
Incredible week.

The REAL Number 3 :worship:

Absolutely. :)
And yes, he needs to deal with that Djoker problem.

Corey Feldman
10-28-2007, 07:07 PM
Whoremaster is just worried about the prospect of Murray beating his bitch - Roddick again in Shanghai.:haha: Jaap

Nice going for Muzza- hope he has continued good luck in Paris. :yeah:*strokes the kitty*

:kiss:

trixtah
10-28-2007, 07:13 PM
That's just plain mean. He's working on his look- give him a break. :lol:

Nice going for Muzza- hope he has continued good luck in Paris. :yeah:

Can't fight the chromosomes :p

Rawr! http://www.tqnyc.org/NYC063163/zzz-sharks-teeth.jpg

aha thumbs up Escude, I totally stole the nick from you, stealing it from someone else :D I would totally photoshop those shark teeth onto an afro but I'm too lazy right now..=X

Jimnik
10-28-2007, 07:17 PM
Well done Muzza. :yeah:

Now win Paris.

Kitty de Sade
10-28-2007, 07:24 PM
*strokes the kitty*

:kiss:

:lol:

Just doing my part to help promote Muzza Mania. :hatoff:

Can't fight the chromosomes :p

Rawr! http://www.tqnyc.org/NYC063163/zzz-sharks-teeth.jpg

Sure. You're never prone to bouts of beautiful snarky behavior, right? :p

I can't see that pic though- just getting a red X. :(

Andi-M
10-28-2007, 07:30 PM
:yeah: You absolute gem Muzza!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats title no 3 in the bag...title no 4 next week!!!

Loremaster
10-28-2007, 07:42 PM
If you seriously think Boredo and Blake deserve to be in Shanghai more than Murray then I pity you.

sorry but as I said he has results in their league , and I haven't said that he deserve more than Blake , as I said Blake is like him , making TMC without any GS results is bad thing because GS are the hardest tourneys to play in every factor no matter what, and If someone is great at GS one must me good player and Robredo made QF on hardcourt of Grandslam and once more at FO , Murray was never in QF of GS , he pushed Nadal wow what a sensation that someone pushed Nadal on fast court - Soderling, Youzhny, etc etc also pushed him hard on fast surfaces it doesn't change a think he hasn't made any decent results in GS ever, that's why right know he is less acomplished player that Robredo or Blake , I know it will change in the future but it doesn't matter a thing right now.

Yeah and the think about Murray beating Roddick, they are 3-2 (4-2 but that one loss was in 1st ret) so I think it oculd be great match.
But going by your logic Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, etc didn't deserve to make TMc , sorry but it is lame Jaap

Rafa = Fed Killa
10-28-2007, 07:47 PM
Congrats Murray.

Just dont become a choker in the future like Chokovic.

Mechlan
10-28-2007, 08:31 PM
sorry but as I said he has results in their league , and I haven't said that he deserve more than Blake , as I said Blake is like him , making TMC without any GS results is bad thing because GS are the hardest tourneys to play in every factor no matter what, and If someone is great at GS one must me good player and Robredo made QF on hardcourt of Grandslam and once more at FO , Murray was never in QF of GS , he pushed Nadal wow what a sensation that someone pushed Nadal on fast court - Soderling, Youzhny, etc etc also pushed him hard on fast surfaces it doesn't change a think he hasn't made any decent results in GS ever, that's why right know he is less acomplished player that Robredo or Blake , I know it will change in the future but it doesn't matter a thing right now.

Yeah and the think about Murray beating Roddick, they are 3-2 (4-2 but that one loss was in 1st ret) so I think it oculd be great match.
But going by your logic Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, etc didn't deserve to make TMc , sorry but it is lame Jaap

If Murray makes it in because he has more points than the other contenders, he deserves it. The ranking system takes both GS and non-GS into account. It would be one thing if Murray played and lost early at the GS, but if he is good enough to have more points after missing 2 GS and playing a third at a relatively low level it should say something about the rest of the field and in my opinion is an even stronger indicator that he deserves to be in Shanghai.

Corey Feldman
10-28-2007, 08:48 PM
aha thumbs up Escude, I totally stole the nick from you, stealing it from someone else :DYep, i stole it from Tangy_dream :D

R.Federer
10-28-2007, 09:20 PM
sorry but as I said he has results in their league , and I haven't said that he deserve more than Blake , as I said Blake is like him , making TMC without any GS results is bad thing because GS are the hardest tourneys to play in every factor no matter what, and If someone is great at GS one must me good player and Robredo made QF on hardcourt of Grandslam and once more at FO , Murray was never in QF of GS , he pushed Nadal wow what a sensation that someone pushed Nadal on fast court - Soderling, Youzhny, etc etc also pushed him hard on fast surfaces it doesn't change a think he hasn't made any decent results in GS ever, that's why right know he is less acomplished player that Robredo or Blake , I know it will change in the future but it doesn't matter a thing right now.


That's not really fair now is it? The GS are more important, so they give about double as many points for about the same degree of performance. So those who performed less well in the GS already have to make up that deficit by doing very well everywhere else.
Now you are putting up a quadruple burden by saying even though they get shafted for winning fewer points at the GS, they should be further penalized by not going to Shanghai for getting fewer "quality points". But that is not what the rules say. The rules say, if you are good enough to accumulate the 8th highest number of points or better, you go. So whoever goes has earned it.

Shrinking Violet
10-28-2007, 09:30 PM
How anyone can say he doesn't deserve Shanghai because he didn't go deep at a Slam is amazing to me. The guy is missing 2 Slams and their big point totals, as well as some hauls from some TMS events. So, by that logic - even though he will have gotten more points than the people who played those events, he should be penalised even though he will have gathered more points in less chances? :lol:

If, and it's a big if, he manages to get to Shanghai after missing out on three months of the season and taking another month to get back to playing well, then he will definitely deserve it. Anyone who can't accept that really needs to rejoin reality at one point instead of living in their own little la la land.

I still don't think he'll do it, the Djokovic match-up is just awful, but if he gets there he will deserve it.

rocketassist
10-28-2007, 11:03 PM
sorry but as I said he has results in their league , and I haven't said that he deserve more than Blake , as I said Blake is like him , making TMC without any GS results is bad thing because GS are the hardest tourneys to play in every factor no matter what, and If someone is great at GS one must me good player and Robredo made QF on hardcourt of Grandslam and once more at FO , Murray was never in QF of GS , he pushed Nadal wow what a sensation that someone pushed Nadal on fast court - Soderling, Youzhny, etc etc also pushed him hard on fast surfaces it doesn't change a think he hasn't made any decent results in GS ever, that's why right know he is less acomplished player that Robredo or Blake , I know it will change in the future but it doesn't matter a thing right now.

Yeah and the think about Murray beating Roddick, they are 3-2 (4-2 but that one loss was in 1st ret) so I think it oculd be great match.
But going by your logic Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, etc didn't deserve to make TMc , sorry but it is lame Jaap

It's 4-2. Retirements count- otherwise Nadal would be scraping the h2h with Djokovic.

Boredo is a clown. Blake is out of form. Murray is in form, playing great tennis. Would have already been qualified had he not injured his wrist.

He deserves it more than these two.

Raquel
10-28-2007, 11:10 PM
Well done Andy on title #3 :woohoo:

Would love to see him make Shanghai, but if he doesn't he has done his best after his injury plagued year :)

l_mac
10-28-2007, 11:14 PM
Excellent result!!

I hope he has enough left for a good run in Paris. I can see him easily making the quarters there - he has no quality players in his section :)

wenty
10-29-2007, 05:28 AM
Nice try Nando :hug: Congratulations to Murray :hatoff: