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Lyon SF: Grosjean def Tsonga 6-1 6-2

krystlel
10-27-2007, 05:02 PM
That was an awesome performance from Grosjean today. Hope he can take the title tomorrow and continue on this form heading into Paris.

elessar
10-27-2007, 05:05 PM
Wow I couldn't see the match but I certainly didn't expect a scoreline like that :eek: Did Tsonga play really badly or was Seb on fire ?

krystlel
10-27-2007, 05:06 PM
Tsonga started off poorly but was never really let into it and Grosjean kept getting better and better. :eek: Grosjean's serving was very impressive also. I guess you could say that Grosjean probably wouldn't have been swinging as freely as he did if Tsonga kept it close at the start though.

I hope this isn't a one-off performance from Grosjean though.

TMJordan
10-27-2007, 05:07 PM
Wow I couldn't see the match but I certainly didn't expect a scoreline like that :eek: Did Tsonga play really badly or was Seb on fire ?

Tsonga obviously had to play horrible to lose to Grosjean 1 and 2 indoors.

Tom Paulman
10-27-2007, 05:11 PM
Tsonga can get his revenge in less than 3 days

CmonAussie
10-27-2007, 05:12 PM
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when did Grosjean last win an ATP title???
I`m guessing 2001 [Paris TMS]??
~~ if so Seb has a big chance to break a six year title drought tomorrow!!

Renaud
10-27-2007, 05:14 PM
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when did Grosjean last win an ATP title???
I`m guessing 2001 [Paris TMS]??


Saint Petersburg 2002 :)

I♥PsY@Mus!c
10-27-2007, 05:15 PM
Good for Seb.I hope he will win this title. :)
Jo :o

aliasthad
10-27-2007, 05:19 PM
Seb!!!!!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Merton
10-27-2007, 05:27 PM
Surprising scoreline but Tsonga had a good week, hopefully Seb will take the title tomorrow.

Horatio Caine
10-27-2007, 05:51 PM
Wasn't expecting that scoreline at all! :eek:

Seb! :bounce: :woohoo: :yeah:

Schu
10-27-2007, 09:15 PM
Tsonga obviously had to play horrible to lose to Grosjean 1 and 2 indoors.

Guess some credit goes to Seb, so good job Seb, but why didn't Tsonga have what had to have been one of his less than stellar performances against Gasquet, instead of playing "treed".

Tsonga can get his revenge in a few days and hopefully so will Gasquet. Hope Grosjean can take the title tomorrow.

Iván
10-27-2007, 10:17 PM
gicquel can take him out.

Forehander
10-28-2007, 04:39 AM
Grosjean is super effective against any type of player who does not know how to neutralize his weapons when he's in top form. You need to play correctly, hitting to his absolutely terrible backhand and try your best not to hit the ball to his wtf imbalanced super good forehand when he is close to the baseline. Players who go-for-broke who play against Grosjean are somewhat foolish, because the truth is, no one can out hit him when he's in form. Hitting hard as to his forehand? The guy will over power you no matter how hard you hit because his forehand is just that good. Hitting to his backhand? Better choice but Grosjean is one of the quickest on tour and his run around forehand in form can be quite deadly. So In order to win they first need to accept the fact that they can't just out hit him, you need to play intelligently and keep him far behind the baseline until you truly believe you can go for an outright winner.

leng jai
10-28-2007, 05:57 AM
Its amazing that Grosjean can win with such a fucken shithouse backhand with the worst technique of all time. Its not like he has a lightning bolt serve to help him either.

Sjengster
10-28-2007, 06:12 AM
I don't know which Grosjean matches the above two posters have watched, but his backhand is not "absolutely terrible", nor does he have "the worst technique of all time" on that stroke. It's a very short takeback, so much so that he almost flicks the ball into play on that side, but he can be effective with it and use it to set up his forehand. Inevitably as he's declined over the last few years his weaker shot has become more glaring, but it's still an average backhand, I'd say.

leng jai
10-28-2007, 06:18 AM
I fail to see how Grosjean uses his backhand to setup his forehand when he inevitably tries to run around every single backhand Moya style. His backhand technique is terrible and he doesn't have the ability to hit through it. The backswing is short which isn't alwways bad but its like he is trying to block the ball back on every shot even when hes on the attack. I've still got his RG semifinal against Corretja on tape and even back then in his peak his backhand was still terrible with zero ability to attack off it or generate any power.

World Beater
10-28-2007, 06:53 AM
i'm not sure who's bh is the worst....grosjean, moya or roddick.

all players with good fh's.

in terms of fh, probably goes like moya, grosjean, roddick but off course roddick has the serve. :lol:

Forehander
10-28-2007, 07:12 AM
Its amazing that Grosjean can win with such a fucken shithouse backhand with the worst technique of all time. Its not like he has a lightning bolt serve to help him either.

lol well he is quite talented. He is one of the quickest, does have a pretty accurate and fast serve for his size (when he's in form that is lol), and have amazing feel and touch of the ball. His backhand does have a terrible technique but his quick speed sort of covers that. He just needs to tap back a deeper backhand, hoping for the opponent to hit the ball short so he can smash the forehand. He frustrates the opponent quite a bit. Tommy Haas use to be terrible against him, but then he learnt to play intelligently.


I don't know which Grosjean matches the above two posters have watched, but his backhand is not "absolutely terrible", nor does he have "the worst technique of all time" on that stroke. It's a very short takeback, so much so that he almost flicks the ball into play on that side, but he can be effective with it and use it to set up his forehand. Inevitably as he's declined over the last few years his weaker shot has become more glaring, but it's still an average backhand, I'd say.

I am a huge, huge, huge Grosjean fan. Ever since 2001 when i first saw him when I was 8 i've never missed one single match of his. I may have exaggerated how bad his backhand is a bit but there is no doubt his backhand is average below top 100 players. You rarely see that side of his attack (other than maybe a hop once or twice). The reason why he is able to come up with some good shots at times is because he is so quick therefore coming up with some good angles on the defense. Yes he does deliberately tap the ball deep into the opponents court at the right time so that he can set up his forehand, however that's just simply not enough. Also he does have one of the best touch of slices on tour, but he needs to be consistent with the forehand to make his backhand work.

I fail to see how Grosjean uses his backhand to setup his forehand when he inevitable tries to run around every single backhand Moya style. His backhand technique is terrible and he doesn't have the ability to hit through it. The backswing is short which isn't alwways bad but its like he is trying to block the ball back on every shot even when hes on the attack. I've still got his RG semifinal against Corretja on tape and even back then in his peak his backhand was still terrible with zero ability to attack off it or generate any power.

lol 6-4 6-4 6-4 i remember the scoreline was. Yeh i was amazed how useless his backhand was during that match.

i'm not sure who's bh is the worst....grosjean, moya or roddick.

all players with good fh's.

in terms of fh, probably goes like moya, grosjean, roddick but off course roddick has the serve. :lol:

Worst backhand is definitely Grosjean no doubt. And best forehand is definitely Grosjean out of the three. He can be inconsistent with it, but Grosjean's forehand is very unique, no other players can play it like him.

Allez-Ollie
10-28-2007, 01:36 PM
Amazing how off Tsonga was. Grosjean must have felt that christmas had come early.

"Jo was a little stressed; I felt he was tense during the warm-up", Grosjean said. "The first break was very important because I started the match very well and he couldn't come back after that. Jo is young, he will have other chances. I played well, but it was not my best game of the year; to play a good game you have to have two players who are playing well."

Source: http://www.inside-tennis.net/tennis-news_3123_Lyon-Grosjean-trounces-lame-Tsonga.html

Byrd
10-28-2007, 01:47 PM
Ehhh what happened?, this is one of Tsonga's main weaknesses consistency, something that usually crops up when talking in the same breath as a french player. Guess Baby Ali got KTFO.

+alonso
10-28-2007, 02:17 PM
:woohoo: :bounce: AWESOME Seb! :D Keep the good form and win in the final

stebs
10-28-2007, 02:23 PM
Worst backhand is definitely Grosjean no doubt. And best forehand is definitely Grosjean out of the three. He can be inconsistent with it, but Grosjean's forehand is very unique, no other players can play it like him.

Not just here, but all over the board you overestimate Grosjeans FH. It is a very good shot but no way is it definately better than Moya's. I mean Moya has a worse BH than Grosjean but still can keep up with him off the ground due to the FH.

Forehander
10-28-2007, 05:05 PM
Not just here, but all over the board you overestimate Grosjeans FH. It is a very good shot but no way is it definately better than Moya's. I mean Moya has a worse BH than Grosjean but still can keep up with him off the ground due to the FH.

I am not overestimating Grosjean's forehand honestly. Find any decent coach who trains atleast at the states level, show them a technique video of Grosjean and Moya and see what their answer would be.