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Basel QF: Karlovic def. Berdych 6-7(5), 7-6(2), 7-6(13)

Björki
10-26-2007, 09:15 PM
Berdych was up 6-4 in the TB. :rolleyes:

congrats Ivo.

mivco
10-26-2007, 09:16 PM
sad day for tennis... these borring service players should be banned

Andre♥
10-26-2007, 09:16 PM
FUCKING YES!!! :woohoo:

Ivo is a legend! Now beat that fake Goat! :woohoo:

Jadranka
10-26-2007, 09:16 PM
:woohoo:

Bilbo
10-26-2007, 09:16 PM
yessssssssssssssss

great day

Yashin71
10-26-2007, 09:17 PM
Thrilling tiebreak. Berdych couldn't handle Ivo's big serve up the middle.

MatchFederer
10-26-2007, 09:17 PM
HA.. what a scoreline! Been a couple like this now...

neenah
10-26-2007, 09:17 PM
Incredibly painful scoreboard to watch as a fan of both players. :sobbing:

Happy for Ivo, disappointed for Tomas.

Deathless Mortal
10-26-2007, 09:18 PM
Ivooooooooooooooo
Yessssssssssssssss
Wow that point on 13-13 Ivo's serve
I thought Berdych's ball was in... huh
Great win and saved at least 4 MPs :D
My livestream wasn't working well in the end :o

ReturnWinner
10-26-2007, 09:18 PM
:lol: he won with a great passing shot , he saved his second match point with one too

LocoPorElTenis
10-26-2007, 09:19 PM
Yet another Shanghai hopeful bites the dust.
Unbelievably, even though he lost his first match in Madrid and didn't play this week, Haas holds onto the 8th position of the race.

Corey Feldman
10-26-2007, 09:21 PM
now lets wait for more Voo de mar drivel coming up.

Karlo's luck in winning these type of matches in the last few months is out of this planet - hopefully it ends tomorrow.

Deathless Mortal
10-26-2007, 09:21 PM
They were both choking
Ivo double faulted at *4-2, then Berdych didn't win after 6-4*
then Ivo didn't win on his serve at *13-12 but made a minibreak at 14-13* :D:D
Vamoooooooos :rocker2:

Sjengster
10-26-2007, 09:21 PM
A nail-biting finish but Karlovic was a deserved winner, he won more points overall, more return points, and was much closer to breaking serve in the final set even though there was one eternal game on his serve at 4-5 down. If it hadn't been for that double fault when he was 4-2 up in the breaker, after which he lost 4 points in a row, the match might have been over a lot quicker. I wonder if Berdych was thinking about Shanghai when he had that one chance on serve at 6-5, though....

Labamba
10-26-2007, 09:22 PM
Voo must be going crazy this week :lol: So many tiebreaks, aces, match points saved, etc. :cool:

Ivo saved atleast 5 mp's, one on Berdych's serve :worship:

+40 aces again :eek:

Rogieva
10-26-2007, 09:22 PM
Just give Roger the title.

Deathless Mortal
10-26-2007, 09:23 PM
38 aces by Ivo :D

Tabledott
10-26-2007, 09:23 PM
Easy as cake for Roger

scarecrows
10-26-2007, 09:23 PM
this wasnt the right match to miss a MP on serve :smash:

LilyRoseAva
10-26-2007, 09:24 PM
sad day for tennis... these borring service players should be banned

exactly my thought :mad:

Adler
10-26-2007, 09:24 PM
52 aces overall

Sunset of Age
10-26-2007, 09:24 PM
Tomas! :retard:

Congrats Dr. Ivo!

Blue Heart24
10-26-2007, 09:25 PM
now lets wait for more Voo de mar drivel coming up.

Karlo's luck in winning these type of matches in the last few months is out of this planet - hopefully it ends tomorrow.

:baby: Can't handle a player you dont like winning? :haha:

Ivo :worship: Fantastic match!:yeah:
Give your best tomorrow and hopefully he will play vs. Fed in Paris too! ;)

Andre♥
10-26-2007, 09:25 PM
Karlovic will reach TMC in 2009. Maybe even next year.

Deathless Mortal
10-26-2007, 09:27 PM
Fed is a huge favourite for tomorrow
Probably 7-6 7-6 win but Ivo can surprise us.
:D

ASP0315
10-26-2007, 09:27 PM
Great match from both players actually.
BTW karlovic backhand was perfectly working well today. :yeah:
Normally i see his bh go to the net but today it worked well
He made great bh passing shot winner.
I'm really pleased with his performance from the baseline.

Berdych. i fell bit sorry for him. he couln't handle the bh slices by karlovic and offcourse frustrated.
All the credit to karlovic.

And yes there some sore losers who keep whining whenever karlovic wins. But they can go to hell.
Roick on ivo

dylan24
10-26-2007, 09:27 PM
federer would have surely preferred to play birdshit instead of freak

selyoink
10-26-2007, 09:29 PM
Ivo double faulted on match point at 13-12 I believe so both players were choking.

Stupid Berdych. I want him to make TMC but he may missed a chance at points. Looks like none of the contenders are really interested in making it except maybe Murray. Only him and Gonzo have picked up points. Berdych, Blake, Robredo, Ljubicic, Gasquet, and even Canas all flamed out again.

MatchFederer
10-26-2007, 09:30 PM
federer would have surely preferred to play birdshit instead of freak

Just about... possibly. Federer pulls some pretty amusing facial expressions when he plays Karlovic. :D

BodyServe
10-26-2007, 09:30 PM
sad day for tennis... these borring service players should be banned

Big cry

As for the match,it was as a Karlovic fan the toughest match i had to follow.
Congrats Karlovic :worship:

Tommy fan
10-26-2007, 09:31 PM
Berdych :help: Had 4 MP..
Congrats Ivo..

Damn.. It's the second match this week with that score!

Merton
10-26-2007, 09:31 PM
Ivo is very tough when he is serving at 75% plus, I think Tomas had only one break point and only reached deuce in 3 games overall. He had a careless forehand long and an unlucky net cord in the 2nd set tiebreak, after he lost that his concentration level dropped and started making more errors from the ground. Still, he just failed to take his chance on his serve in the deciding tiebreak.

scarecrows
10-26-2007, 09:45 PM
Ivo double faulted on match point at 13-12 I believe so both players were choking.

.

actually the scoreboard got it wrong

I wasnt watching the match but i saw in the OOP comments that it was a forehand error at 13-12 that gave Berdych the point

enzogiovanni
10-26-2007, 09:46 PM
Tomorrow it's Roger's turn to face scud-missiles.
In their last meeting he managed 0 BP and went once to deuce on Ivo's serve.
PRedictions for tomorrow?

The Freak
10-26-2007, 09:49 PM
:worship:

elessar
10-26-2007, 09:51 PM
actually the scoreboard got it wrong

I wasnt watching the match but i saw in the OOP comments that it was a forehand error at 13-12 that gave Berdych the point

Yeah I was watching the livestream and the SB was completely wrong at the end giving aces to Karlovic while Berdych was serving...

Well congrats to Karlovic for the mental toughness but quite frankly I was hoping for a different result. Now instead of a Berdych/Federer we have a serve/return error fest to look forward to. Wonderful :rolleyes:

ASP0315
10-26-2007, 09:55 PM
Federer won all thier H2H
3-0
Here are thier meeting
Wimby grass 6-3 7-6 7-6
Gstaad clay 6-7 6-3 7-6
toronto outdoor hard 7-6 7-6

One of the meeting was in federer's home country where karlovic managed to take a set off.
It should be interesting meeting . :devil:
i expect a different match tommorow than toronto

Bilbo
10-26-2007, 09:58 PM
dedicated to danielafrenchfan and Interlaken

TankingTheSet
10-26-2007, 10:01 PM
Yeah I was watching the livestream and the SB was completely wrong at the end giving aces to Karlovic while Berdych was serving...


There's a notorious bug in the ATPtennis scoreboard that attributes all aces and df's in the tie-break to the player that served the first point in tie-break. However the aces are counted correctly in the match statistics. The fact that they haven't fixed this bug after a year shows very poor software management by the ATP.

Andi-M
10-26-2007, 10:07 PM
Great for Muzza!!

scarecrows
10-26-2007, 10:15 PM
There's a notorious bug in the ATPtennis scoreboard that attributes all aces and df's in the tie-break to the player that served the first point in tie-break. However the aces are counted correctly in the match statistics. The fact that they haven't fixed this bug after a year shows very poor software management by the ATP.

hmmm, I think that in the TB aces and double faults made on the second service points are attributed to the opponent

but I'm not 100% sure

anyway, it's an annoying bug in the scoreboard

elessar
10-26-2007, 10:16 PM
There's a notorious bug in the ATPtennis scoreboard that attributes all aces and df's in the tie-break to the player that served the first point in tie-break. However the aces are counted correctly in the match statistics. The fact that they haven't fixed this bug after a year shows very poor software management by the ATP.

Thanks for the explanation:wavey:

ASP0315
10-26-2007, 10:20 PM
dedicated to danielafrenchfan and Interlaken

You and Jaap are big legends of MTF
:worship:

jonny84
10-26-2007, 10:24 PM
:banghead: Tomas

tcorinna
10-26-2007, 11:11 PM
:hug:Poor Tomas ... It must be so frustrated to lose this way :(

I have nothing against Ivo, I was cheering for him when he won his first title ... but tennis is so boring with +40 aces and only big serves :(

Goodluck for Roger tomorrow :wavey:

Caio_Brasil
10-26-2007, 11:13 PM
Vamos Voo de Mar :yeah:

Sunset of Age
10-26-2007, 11:14 PM
:hug:Poor Tomas ... It must be so frustrated to lose this way :(

I have nothing against Ivo, I was cheering for him when he won his first title ... but tennis is so boring with +40 aces and only big serves :(

Goodluck for Roger tomorrow :wavey:

Indeed, Tomas isn't having very much luck lately, and I guess this result sort-of seals his fate for his chances to play in Shanghai... :sad:

I have nothing against Ivo either, I quite like the guy - but for the sake of TENNIS I sure hope Roger wins tomorrow. :cool:

ASP0315
10-26-2007, 11:40 PM
:hug:Poor Tomas ... It must be so frustrated to lose this way :(

I have nothing against Ivo, I was cheering for him when he won his first title ... but tennis is so boring with +40 aces and only big serves :(

Goodluck for Roger tomorrow :wavey:

It is ok if you hate ivo. Well it is boring for you as you prefer clay courters only. But I respect your opinion anyway.

1) tennis match was not only big serves. Did you watch this match.
did you watch the passing shots made by karlovic in the tb. (Three big passing shots in TB came at crucial times. As the matter of fact it was berdych who got little lucky in the third set tie-break to get to 6-4 but karlovic saved the match point by a forehand passing shot winner at 5-6* on berdych serve. )

2) if he was only serving aces he wouldn't have won three titles on three different surfaces. I'm sure there are big severs like arthurs, guccione, He definetely improved from baseline otherwise he wouldn't win 40+ matches this year. (I'm sure players who solely rely on thier serves didn't ahieve that in the past. Lets take for example wayne arthurs who played for more than 10 years and won only won title.)
Ivo is closing in on top 20 next week. Well he got his stammering problem sorted out. good for him.

Il Primo Uomo
10-27-2007, 12:04 AM
Berdych, get your shit together. Or fire your coach.

ASP0315
10-27-2007, 12:11 AM
where our statician voo de Mar btw?

Snowwy
10-27-2007, 12:15 AM
Imagine how many aces hed have if the courts were still fast.

ASP0315
10-27-2007, 12:17 AM
Indeed, Tomas isn't having very much luck lately, and I guess this result sort-of seals his fate for his chances to play in Shanghai... :sad:

I have nothing against Ivo either, I quite like the guy - but for the sake of TENNIS I sure hope Roger wins tomorrow. :cool:

sake of tennis? :lol:

It is roger who is destroying tennis doesn't he.? :lol: :p
He wins 95 % of time and has little competiton :lol: Atleast things get interesting when he plays big servers.
Well Berdych vs federer would have been boring tennis anyway, All we can see is federer pummeling his opponent. Berdych is erratic player on tour and his fh was huge he hit a lot of good winners but the real thing is he was troubled by karlovic's bh slices. :lol:
I like federer a lot but i don;'t really watch his matches unless he plays big servers or good grinders like hewitt, nalby, nadal, nole canas etc.

ASP0315
10-27-2007, 12:19 AM
Imagine how many aces hed have if the courts were still fast.

the courts are very faster than madrid but yeah it wasn't an ice rink like in san jose . :lol:

valexie03
10-27-2007, 01:36 AM
:hug:Poor Tomas ... It must be so frustrated to lose this way :(

I have nothing against Ivo, I was cheering for him when he won his first title ... but tennis is so boring with +40 aces and only big serves :(

Goodluck for Roger tomorrow :wavey:

:yeah:

the courts are very faster than madrid but yeah it wasn't an ice rink like in san jose . :lol:

What a nice idea: tennis on ice :wavey:

Voo de Mar
10-27-2007, 02:29 AM
now lets wait for more Voo de mar drivel coming up.

Karlo's luck in winning these type of matches in the last few months is out of this planet - hopefully it ends tomorrow.

OMG. I was on a disco and didn't follow this match on the live scoreboard.
Dr. Ivo is fucking TB animal :worship: I'll make special thread for him :wavey:

scoobs
10-27-2007, 02:30 AM
Busy week for you, Voo what with Karlovic, Ljubicic and Fish keeping the ace count sky high.

scoobs
10-27-2007, 02:30 AM
I gather Karlovic saved 5MPs also

Voo de Mar
10-27-2007, 02:32 AM
Busy week for you, Voo what with Karlovic, Ljubicic and Fish keeping the ace count sky high.

Yeah scoobsuk. Crazy week, indeed :crazy:

Voo de Mar
10-27-2007, 03:29 AM
Berdych is a good omen for tie-break records. Moya has won 33rd against him, Karlovic 34th...
:banana:

ChinoRios4Ever
10-27-2007, 03:53 AM
amazing finish, congrats Dr. Ivo :yeah:

ASP0315
10-27-2007, 04:12 AM
I gather Karlovic saved 5MPs also

yeah one of them is on berdych's serve at 5-6* where he hit angled forehand passing shot winner to make it 6-6. Berdych was just stunned. :lol:

also he hit a perfect serve down the center ad court at *8-9 to save another match point (i assume it is MP #3. Berdych challenged it but his face was the hawkeye showed the ball landed perfectly on the line.

Overall berdych didn't play bad at all. He hit some great fh winners cloked at 150 kph. But karlovic's backhand suprised me and it worked very well as the matter of fact and low bh slices really troubled berdych a lot and forced berdych to come to the net.

Overall great performance from both players.

Marek.
10-27-2007, 08:43 AM
That's a shame.

tcorinna
10-27-2007, 09:33 AM
It is ok if you hate ivo. Well it is boring for you as you prefer clay courters only. But I respect your opinion anyway.

1) tennis match was not only big serves. Did you watch this match.
did you watch the passing shots made by karlovic in the tb. (Three big passing shots in TB came at crucial times. As the matter of fact it was berdych who got little lucky in the third set tie-break to get to 6-4 but karlovic saved the match point by a forehand passing shot winner at 5-6* on berdych serve. )

2) if he was only serving aces he wouldn't have won three titles on three different surfaces. I'm sure there are big severs like arthurs, guccione, He definetely improved from baseline otherwise he wouldn't win 40+ matches this year. (I'm sure players who solely rely on thier serves didn't ahieve that in the past. Lets take for example wayne arthurs who played for more than 10 years and won only won title.)
Ivo is closing in on top 20 next week. Well he got his stammering problem sorted out. good for him.

:wavey:You got it all wrong .... First off all I don't hate Ivo ... not at all .. he is very nice :D

Second of all ... I don't prefer clay courts ... not at all;)

The only thing is that from my point of view Tomas its better ... and you can feel his frustration on that court because Ivo's serve ... thats it ... nothing else :wavey:

Anyway Congrats for Ivo :)

stebs
10-27-2007, 11:50 AM
Great win for the Dr. and poor old Berdych couldn't get anything going on his serve despite the maximum 18 service games to try.

Soulja Boy
10-27-2007, 07:53 PM
Karlovic will reach TMC in 2009. Maybe even next year.

Easily one of the dumber comments I have read on this board.

ASP0315
10-27-2007, 08:02 PM
Easily one of the dumber comments I have read on this board.

oh yes i lot retards like you said karlovic wouldn't be a top 20 player this year. :lol:

Soulja Boy
10-27-2007, 08:16 PM
oh yes i lot retards like you said karlovic wouldn't be a top 20 player this year. :lol:

I lot? :confused:

Karlovic is not in the top 20 and won't be by the end of this year. Who's the retard now? ;)

ASP0315
10-27-2007, 08:42 PM
I lot? :confused:

Karlovic is not in the top 20 and won't be by the end of this year. Who's the retard now? ;)

He will be top 20 by the end of seasonre or by the begining of AO. face it.

And as for yo calling him a one trick pony. he isn't a one trick pony. You are just showing a sheeer hatred of karlovic. Or you didn't watch today's nmatch at all.karlovic has groundstrokes end of story. They are enough for him to be in top 20.

First watch the match completly before calling him serve only. if you don't know the definition of "groundstroke" probably you don't know anything about tennis. :lol:

Soulja Boy
10-27-2007, 08:53 PM
He will be top 20 by the end of seasonre or by the begining of AO. face it.

And as for yo calling him a one trick pony. he isn't a one trick pony. You are just showing a sheeer hatred of karlovic. Or you didn't watch today's nmatch at all.karlovic has groundstrokes end of story. They are enough for him to be in top 20.

Ivo will have to play all 9 AMS events next year, meaning he will lose most of his points from optionals and take a hit in the rankings. Any time Ivo faces a decent returner, he's finished. If he wasn't all serve, then he wouldn't have to save match points against a washed up Andre Sa, get beaten in straight sets by Brian Wilson (WHO?! :lol:) or go 7-5 in the third with Simon Stadler (x2) and go to third set tie breaks with Lee Childs and Alun Jones.

Ivo's game is a huge serve, mediocre volleys, below average forehand, and one of the worst backhands to ever grace the game, capped off by poor movement.

ASP0315
10-27-2007, 09:17 PM
Ivo will have to play all 9 AMS events next year, meaning he will lose most of his points from optionals and take a hit in the rankings. Any time Ivo faces a decent returner, he's finished. If he wasn't all serve, then he wouldn't have to save match points against a washed up Andre Sa, get beaten in straight sets by Brian Wilson (WHO?! :lol:) or go 7-5 in the third with Simon Stadler (x2) and go to third set tie breaks with Lee Childs and Alun Jones.

Ivo's game is a huge serve, mediocre volleys, below average forehand, and one of the worst backhands to ever grace the game, capped off by poor movement.

ok who did robredo lose to this week. Gicquel? who did ljubicic lose to this week Falla? :haha:
oh yeah who did federer lose to in rome volandri. ? :haha:
and you call robredo and ljubicic top 10 players. :haha:
do you think gicquel, falla and volandri are better than karlovic? :haha:
Number 2 he lost to brian wilson last year not this year.
number 3 didn't federer struglle against berrer and kristian pless this year. Took three sets to beat them. :haha:
so i the fact is karlovic lost to a couple of players just like your favorites lost to a lot of so caled 'weak" players.

only one thing i agree with you that backhand. (but it isn't bad this week. he hit three bh rallies in a row to beat to blake. federer couln't even win points on karlovic low backhand.
BTW I can't wait to see you go hiding when if karlovic did reach TMC next season. Nothing is impossible. wait and see.
Rest of your theory is bullshit.

BTW why the hell are you only mentioned the matches he lost.?
Here are some of the top ten players karlovic managed to beat
James Blake( x3)
Tommy haas(x 4 three times on clay)
Davydenko on clay
Robredo times x2
some former gs champions
Marat safin(x2)
Tojo(x2)
Hewitt(x3)Two of those ocassions were when hewitt was top 10. you call hewitt a good returner right.

As for tiebreak finishes are concerned. Andy roddick needed three sets(two tiebreaks) to win queens with 4-6 7-6 7-6 against mahut.(who is a mediocore player.)
Lets see who else needed tie breaks

BTW i won't waste my time disscussing with idiots like you. I'm sure you didn't expect karlovic top a top 100 this year. Admit it. karlovic will shut up haters. If he did reach TMC. (which is not an impossible task.) I'm sure you will create a thread called Karlovic needs to banned or other shit.

If you have a opinion fine. but calling them one trick pony without any evidence is unacceptable.

Well atlast i don't expect hin to reach TMC as well. but that doesn't mean it isn't a impossible task. as for defending points he should have a few problems after miami but still
he can stay inside top 20.He is not a top 10 player imo too.(that doesn't mean it isn't possible. assuming boredo has achieved that status)