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Wawrinka beats Nalbandian 7-6 6-2 and shows Federer how to do it

scarecrows
10-24-2007, 06:29 PM
amazing match from Stan the man, although had the first TB had gone to Bandy it might have gone differently

Bandy fell apart in the second

Andre♥
10-24-2007, 06:30 PM
Now who's "the Swiss that loses?" :lol:

R.Federer
10-24-2007, 06:31 PM
Bandy just lost his seat to Shanghai :sad:

Good win for Wawawawa HOPP!

LocoPorElTenis
10-24-2007, 06:31 PM
Wawa played out of his mind. First set was very good, Nalbi was playing well also, then he fell apart.
Expected result, but unexpected strong performance by Stan "the swiss man who beats Nalbi" the man :hatoff:

Caio_Brasil
10-24-2007, 06:31 PM
David :sad:

Nice stuff from Stan though :yeah:

Fergie
10-24-2007, 06:32 PM
Stan :bigclap:

LeChuck
10-24-2007, 06:33 PM
Wawrinka was excellent today and well done to him. He thoroughly deserved to beat David in straight sets. That return backhand winner down the line at 5-5 in the tiebreak was awesome, and so was his general performance from that moment onwards. His serving was faultless throughout.
It isn't a surprise that David lost today, considering Stan the man had won their 3 previous encounters (including at Vienna a couple of weeks ago and during their quarter-final at Basel in 2006), and David did play 6 matches (with some huge scares in the opening 2 rounds) at Madrid last week.

Eden
10-24-2007, 06:33 PM
Great performance from Stan :yeah: Well deserved victory.

David had a SP in the first set, but couldn't take it. Stan has now won 4 times in a row against David.

Good luck for the rest of the tournament :)

tcorinna
10-24-2007, 06:33 PM
Yuuuhuuu ... Wawri played amazing in the second set ... There were some shots:eek:

didadida
10-24-2007, 06:35 PM
great performance from stan
well done

Tommy fan
10-24-2007, 06:36 PM
The Man :)Great preformance!
But I saw that coming... Right after Madrid and against Stan...

David :hug:

dijus
10-24-2007, 06:37 PM
Wawa > Federer :p

didadida
10-24-2007, 06:37 PM
i think the first serve and the amazina backhand esp . backhand DTL
was great

Apemant
10-24-2007, 06:38 PM
amazing match from Stan the man, although had the first TB had gone to Bandy it might have gone differently

Bandy fell apart in the second

He didn't actually fall apart... it's just that Wawa played one of his :eek: :eek: matches as he does occasionally - he was painting lines consistently with great pace and very little mistakes off of BOTH wings. You can't do much against that, but noone can do it ALL the time, day in, day out.

And, sorry to say, but your title gets it all wrong - he didn't show Roger HOW to do it, because Roger will never beat David THAT way. Wawrinka has that amazing 1H backhand that is rock-solid if he is in form, it's the shot that can't be broken down by constant pummelling, like Fed's can be (utilized by both Nadal and Nalbandian).

Hats of to Stan the man, David doesn't have much to regret, it's not that he choked the match away. Stan just couldn't miss a deep shot and was serving like a monster.


Did anyone notice how Wawrinka stands further back when receiving 2nd serves, than when receiving 1st ones? It actually makes sense for his playing style, amazingly enough.

jazar
10-24-2007, 06:38 PM
back to the fat dave we all know, but stan played wicked

RickDaStick
10-24-2007, 06:39 PM
Welcome back Dave

Byrd
10-24-2007, 06:39 PM
The difference between fed and waw is that waws drive backhand is actually pretty good and helps him stay in the rallies, and also hit great DTL shots.

Apemant
10-24-2007, 06:45 PM
The difference between fed and waw is that waws drive backhand is actually pretty good and helps him stay in the rallies, and also hit great DTL shots.

Understatement. In Stuttgart final against Nadal he fearlessly engaged in his BH to Nadal's FH baseline exchanges, which to me seemed like a suicide but he proved to be more than able to keep up with him. How about that? His BH is just great, and somehow reminds me of Kohlschreiber's 1H BH. They can both hit them very strong with a lot of topspin and a great pace. Similarly, they are both capable of playing some really powerful and great-looking tennis one day, and then give a total crapfest the next day. Too bad.

justClaudia
10-24-2007, 06:46 PM
I was expecting something like this.

congrats to Stan, he played very well.

Byrd
10-24-2007, 06:50 PM
Understatement. In Stuttgart final against Nadal he fearlessly engaged in his BH to Nadal's FH baseline exchanges, which to me seemed like a suicide but he proved to be more than able to keep up with him. How about that? His BH is just great, and somehow reminds me of Kohlschreiber's 1H BH. They can both hit them very strong with a lot of topspin and a great pace. Similarly, they are both capable of playing some really powerful and great-looking tennis one day, and then give a total crapfest the next day. Too bad.


Yes Yes he is a good backhand, quoting my statement to prove a point isn't going to make his backhand become godlike. His problem is shot selection, once he masters that, he should be quite a handful.

FSRteam
10-24-2007, 06:50 PM
I think you could add AGAIN in yoiur title as stan's beaten fatdave the last 4 times!!!

I hope stan can keep it up and take his revenge against berdych tomorrow! :)

scarecrows
10-24-2007, 06:51 PM
He didn't actually fall apart... it's just that Wawa played one of his :eek: :eek: matches as he does occasionally - he was painting lines consistently with great pace and very little mistakes off of BOTH wings. You can't do much against that, but noone can do it ALL the time, day in, day out.

.

compared to the first set Nalbandian played worse, lacking ideas and sometimes trying stupid things like dropshots or powerful forehands DTL

lorenz
10-24-2007, 06:54 PM
Waw has something with Fat Dave, He always wins !

Incredible

tennizen
10-24-2007, 06:55 PM
:haha: The Nalbandwagon has just derailed

martine2
10-24-2007, 06:55 PM
:worship: Stan!! Now take Berdych out :devil:

Myrre
10-24-2007, 07:01 PM
Exactly the same score as last year. Uncanny.

Beat
10-24-2007, 07:04 PM
:cool: wawrinka really knows how to play nalbandian.

Dragula.mp3
10-24-2007, 07:08 PM
Great win for the swiss. I know that Wawrinka is a tough oponente for David, but they played two times in a GS and both wins went to Nalbandian. And the wins for Wawrinka came from all IS, except for Cincinati. Some weird stuff, right?

Kuhne
10-24-2007, 07:17 PM
I think this is one of the main reasons why Federer will be #1 for a long, long time... Fed lost to Djokovic in an ATP masters final then the next tourney in cincinati Djokovic gets beat, yet Federer makes the final and takes it, same thing here, Nalbandian beats Roger and then in the next tourney this happens, and I am pretty sure roger will still make the final, who knows if he is gona win it with the way he is playing.

I would actualy love it if Wawrinka won this tournament, it would be AWESOME.

Kuhne
10-24-2007, 07:23 PM
Congratulations to Wawrinka on beating David when David was playing GOOD tennis.

Bascule
10-24-2007, 07:32 PM
Quite expected after last week which was amazing. He was burned out and probably emotionally dead after all what happened.
Wawrinka, great return.

Scarecrows, are you gonna visit a book fair in Bg (you mentioned a book)? Is that the reason you're coming?

LinkMage
10-24-2007, 07:41 PM
The real Swiss nr. 1 shows the Ego King how it's done.

Congrats to Stan "the Man" Wawrinka for showing the transitional champ how to beat Nalbandian.

Hope the arrogant man from Basel took notes.

ReturnWinner
10-24-2007, 07:44 PM
I just could watch the first set and Nalbandian played pretty well but so Wawrinka did, and he finally won a pretty tight set with some amazing winners then likely he dropped off his level in the second

btw Wawrinka=Argentine playres killa

scarecrows
10-24-2007, 08:16 PM
Quite expected after last week which was amazing. He was burned out and probably emotionally dead after all what happened.
Wawrinka, great return.

Scarecrows, are you gonna visit a book fair in Bg (you mentioned a book)? Is that the reason you're coming?

no, i have a meeting

i'm working on a book translation this period, that's what confused you ;)

aeronatasha
10-24-2007, 08:40 PM
"It was a win for Roger and for me," Wawrinka told reporters. "I spoke to Roger after the Basel draw was made and he told me to win this one."

"I always enjoy playing him, even in the first two matches that I lost, but beating him today at home was unbelievable," said Wawrinka.

"It was a great match for me and I was very happy with how I served. I'm sure Roger will be just as happy with the way I played as with the result itself."

http://www.eurosport.yahoo.com/24102007/58/atp-tour-nalbandian-already-basel.html

Whenever I read Stan's interviews, he ALWAYS mentions Fed.

Bilbo
10-24-2007, 08:41 PM
it's nothing special that a player loses early after winning a tournament

garad
10-24-2007, 08:45 PM
it's nothing special that a player loses early after winning a tournament

Unless you are Federer;)

garad
10-24-2007, 08:47 PM
So, what was that fuss about Nalby the "fit dave" in last couple of days about?

tennizen
10-24-2007, 08:50 PM
"It was a win for Roger and for me," Wawrinka told reporters. "I spoke to Roger after the Basel draw was made and he told me to win this one."



He actually told him that!! Federer: " I can't take the man out myself but deputy you go ahead and do it and I will be proud of you":)

Alex999
10-24-2007, 08:56 PM
Wawrinka is a better and deserves more credit. I like watching him. Well done Stan.

Alex.
10-24-2007, 08:56 PM
Stan :banana: Take out Berdych now. :drool:

MariaV
10-24-2007, 09:01 PM
Stan the Man! :worship: :bowdown:

ChinoRios4Ever
10-24-2007, 09:20 PM
expected one by the swiss who beats Nalbandian :p

jasmin
10-24-2007, 09:32 PM
Dave just proved that you can have a good week or so out of a whole season. Stan just proved that he was having a good day but neither are consistent enough. That's how it is for them.

Of course someone that hates fed wants stan to be number one but in reality the it's obvious who's number one.

jonny84
10-24-2007, 09:39 PM
Interesting. I think Stan is great, and probably puts himself under too much (or not enough) pressure due to him always being second best to Federer in nationality terms. Great win for him today!

crazy_nanine
10-24-2007, 09:42 PM
"It was a win for Roger and for me," Wawrinka told reporters. "I spoke to Roger after the Basel draw was made and he told me to win this one."

"I always enjoy playing him, even in the first two matches that I lost, but beating him today at home was unbelievable," said Wawrinka.

"It was a great match for me and I was very happy with how I served. I'm sure Roger will be just as happy with the way I played as with the result itself."

http://www.eurosport.yahoo.com/24102007/58/atp-tour-nalbandian-already-basel.html

Whenever I read Stan's interviews, he ALWAYS mentions Fed.
he actually said that!!! well that doesn't make him or Roger look any better :rolleyes:
anyway well done Wawrinka played a great match
& good luck in paris David :)

krakenzero
10-24-2007, 09:42 PM
And When do we get the official Nalbandian bashing thread?? I think he and Djokovic have done enough merits to deserve it, and I already have some ideas for the topic:

http://frn.sdstate.edu/Lending_LibraryPics/Inventory%20Pictures/Hungry,%20Hungry%20Hippos%203457.jpg

PD: Now we have a "Swiss guy who loses" and a "Swiss guy who loses to Nalbandian":eek: . Congrats to Stan the Man.

Corey Feldman
10-24-2007, 09:47 PM
:lol: donut Dave is back...

take that one for beating Fed, big scum Nalbi.

tripb19
10-24-2007, 10:32 PM
Saw that one coming.

ReturnWinner
10-24-2007, 10:34 PM
And When do we get the official Nalbandian bashing thread?? I think he and Djokovic have done enough merits to deserve it, and I already have some ideas for the topic:

http://frn.sdstate.edu/Lending_LibraryPics/Inventory%20Pictures/Hungry,%20Hungry%20Hippos%203457.jpg

PD: Now we have a "Swiss guy who loses" and a "Swiss guy who loses to Nalbandian":eek: . Congrats to Stan the Man.

why Nalbandian has made enough merits to have a bashing thread?? :o
then both Gonzalez and Massu should have one too :p

dylan24
10-24-2007, 10:43 PM
good job wawrinka
if federer had to play bandy again, he'd have shit his pants and lost again.
now roger can win the tournament
stan the man
helps out roger.

krakenzero
10-24-2007, 10:48 PM
why Nalbandian has made enough merits to have a bashing thread?? :o
then both Gonzalez and Massu should have one too :p

Ermmm... cause Massu and Gonzalez haven't defeated Federer and Nadal in a row nor winning anything important lately??:devil: You need to understand the rules of bashing my friend...:p :p

bjurra
10-24-2007, 10:57 PM
He didn't actually fall apart... it's just that Wawa played one of his :eek: :eek: matches as he does occasionally.

Did we watch the same match? Nalbandian was utterly disinterested in the second set and tanked it away. He wasn't even trying to return Wawrinka's first serves.

ReturnWinner
10-24-2007, 11:02 PM
Ermmm... cause Massu and Gonzalez haven't defeated Federer and Nadal in a row nor winning anything important lately??:devil: You need to understand the rules of bashing my friend...:p :p

ok... lol but bashing is not just by deafeating top players, but by another different reasons such like kind of game, behaviour , etc

FedFan_2007
10-24-2007, 11:03 PM
Nalby back to the donuts in style!

shotgun
10-24-2007, 11:06 PM
Don't worry guys, Nalbandian will still win the Golden Slam next year.

krakenzero
10-24-2007, 11:12 PM
ok... lol but bashing is not just by deafeating top players, but by another different reasons such like kind of game, behaviour , etc

Well: GOAT cheese, Piggy Roast, Duck Hunt... I don't know if Donkey Kongzalez or "Grease" Massu belong in these exclusive group. Maybe Porcupine Djoko or the Hungry Hippo have more merits...:devil:

ReturnWinner
10-24-2007, 11:13 PM
Well: GOAT cheese, Piggy Roast, Duck Hunt... I don't know if Donkey Kongzalez or "Grease" Massu belong in these exclusive group. Maybe Porcupine Djoko or the Hungry Hippo have more merits...:devil:

there is weasel Coria :o

UDACHi
10-24-2007, 11:16 PM
stan doing something in the second part of the year. :yeah:
keep it up.

bokehlicious
10-24-2007, 11:18 PM
Whenever I read Stan's interviews, he ALWAYS mentions Fed.

Journalists almost always mention Fed when they interview Stan... :shrug:

Nice win Stan :yeah: now expect a crapfest tomorrow... Hope I'm wrong though :o

16681
10-24-2007, 11:18 PM
Saw that one coming.
So did I. I'm sure it was just a let down after David defeated Roger.

krakenzero
10-24-2007, 11:23 PM
there is weasel Coria :o

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0b/IAmWeasel.jpg
I hope Coria recovers soon...:sad:

FluffyYellowBall
10-24-2007, 11:27 PM
SWISS REVENGE! I told u they were neutral. A loss made up with a win ;)

Allure
10-24-2007, 11:40 PM
Sweet revenge. :devil:

horseman
10-24-2007, 11:43 PM
I can not believe :eek: :confused: What happens with Nalba?

Don't cry for me Argentiiinaaa.... :sad:

musefanatic
10-24-2007, 11:44 PM
Wow well done Stan!!! Great win :)

Metis
10-24-2007, 11:56 PM
"It was a win for Roger and for me," Wawrinka told reporters. "I spoke to Roger after the Basel draw was made and he told me to win this one."

"I always enjoy playing him, even in the first two matches that I lost, but beating him today at home was unbelievable," said Wawrinka.

"It was a great match for me and I was very happy with how I served. I'm sure Roger will be just as happy with the way I played as with the result itself."

http://www.eurosport.yahoo.com/24102007/58/atp-tour-nalbandian-already-basel.html

Whenever I read Stan's interviews, he ALWAYS mentions Fed.

Poor Roger, that loss really hurt! :hug: :p
Seriously though these statements don't flatter either of those 2 :tape:.

In any case it was a good win for Wawrinka. He played well overall and his serve was very good :yeah:. As for the 2nd set I have to say I agree with the poster quoted below:

Did we watch the same match? Nalbandian was utterly disinterested in the second set and tanked it away. He wasn't even trying to return Wawrinka's first serves.

krystlel
10-25-2007, 12:09 AM
I agree, Nalbandian didn't look particularly interested in the second set.

Still, it was a great match from Wawrinka.

Merton
10-25-2007, 12:14 AM
An excellent performance by Stan, he was quite clutch at the big points in the 1st set. Nalbandian could not read the serve for the entire match and he seemed to give up after getting broken early in the 2nd set.

NYCtennisfan
10-25-2007, 12:50 AM
Does this mean that we'll have to wait a while before we get the "Nalbandian as GOAT" and "Nalbandian for 2008 Grand Slam" threads??

Andi-M
10-25-2007, 01:11 AM
Expected....

*Viva Chile*
10-25-2007, 01:12 AM
who's the swiss guy who loses now, bitch? :p

*Viva Chile*
10-25-2007, 01:14 AM
And When do we get the official Nalbandian bashing thread?? I think he and Djokovic have done enough merits to deserve it, and I already have some ideas for the topic:

http://frn.sdstate.edu/Lending_LibraryPics/Inventory%20Pictures/Hungry,%20Hungry%20Hippos%203457.jpg

PD: Now we have a "Swiss guy who loses" and a "Swiss guy who loses to Nalbandian":eek: . Congrats to Stan the Man.

no way, the "hippo" is officially Marat Safin on MTF ;)

World Beater
10-25-2007, 01:17 AM
Stan will now win the golden slam.

ufokart
10-25-2007, 01:19 AM
I can't say this wasn't expected :shrug:

But Wawa played very well and i hope he goes far in this tournament :yeah:

rofe
10-25-2007, 01:49 AM
Stan > Nalby > Federer

Sunset of Age
10-25-2007, 01:52 AM
Good job revenging your buddy, Stan! :worship:

Pfoo - perhaps makes Fed's Madrid defeat a little more embarrassing. :tape:

Corey Feldman
10-25-2007, 02:17 AM
Seriously though these statements don't flatter either of those 2 :tape:I dont think they are meant like Stan said however.... Fed always supports Stan and wants him to win, he watched him bt Ancic at wimbledon from the box when Ancic was gonna be his biggest threat and also that Nadal Stuttgart final ..
and if not, Fed is just a vengeful bitch as J'torian said last week :devil:

Farenhajt
10-25-2007, 02:30 AM
I can totally imagine Roger: "Stan, you WILL win this one, do you hear me? DO YOU HEAR ME, BOY?! I can't have Nalbandian in TMC again! I just can't, he's not nice to me at all! (breaks to quiet sobbing) For the love of Switzerland, for the love of Mirka, for the love of The Greatest Me - you have to stop him or die trying."

:devil:

rofe
10-25-2007, 02:32 AM
I dont think they are meant like Stan said however.... Fed always supports Stan and wants him to win, he watched him bt Ancic at wimbledon from the box when Ancic was gonna be his biggest threat and also that Nadal Stuttgart final ..
and if not, Fed is just a vengeful bitch as J'torian said last week :devil:

People will read whatever they want to read into these statements. Pffft.

Enjoy Incubus
10-25-2007, 02:35 AM
Wawa is one hell of a player, I'm being serious.

Richard_from_Cal
10-25-2007, 02:40 AM
Well, ...Stanislas had/has a good record against Mr. Nalbandian: 3 to 2, prior to this match. ...AND, he did the same thing, last year, it seems, here...beating him in two, in the quarters...hmm.

rofe
10-25-2007, 02:43 AM
If Nalby is not careful, he could become Stan's bitch. :eek:

Corey Feldman
10-25-2007, 02:55 AM
I can totally imagine Roger: "Stan, you WILL win this one, do you hear me? DO YOU HEAR ME, BOY?! I can't have Nalbandian in TMC again! I just can't, he's not nice to me at all! (breaks to quiet sobbing) For the love of Switzerland, for the love of Mirka, for the love of The Greatest Me - you have to stop him or die trying."

:devil::lol:

thank your lucky stars Faren, donut dave could have qualified and been put into Nole's group.

Kolya
10-25-2007, 03:00 AM
Nalbandian???

Marek.
10-25-2007, 03:01 AM
Stan showed Djoko, Nadal and Berdych how to do it also. :p

leng jai
10-25-2007, 03:03 AM
Federer: The swiss who loses.

Farenhajt
10-25-2007, 03:27 AM
:lol:

thank your lucky stars Faren, donut dave could have qualified and been put into Nole's group.

Where he would be faced with fresh and motivated Nole, so for the outcome cf. Canada Masters 2007.

Marek.
10-25-2007, 03:38 AM
Where he would be faced with fresh and motivated Nole, so for the outcome cf. Canada Masters 2007.

He faced an unconfident Nalbandian there. So I guess we can't use that result to a judge a future outcome either. :shrug:

azza
10-25-2007, 03:49 AM
The result couldnt have gone any other way Nalbandian is a MUGG.

Forehander
10-25-2007, 04:29 AM
lol it was sort of expected. The way to beat Nalbandian is to out hit him. Nalbandian's bad matchups are go-for-broke players who has huge weapons who can hurt his rhythms. I'm not saying Nalbandian can't beat them and not a better player though, he certainly can but I'm just saying they are bad matchups for him. Blake, Wawrinka are all good examples.

Hendu
10-25-2007, 04:31 AM
lol it was sort of expected. The way to beat Nalbandian is to out hit him. Nalbandian's bad matchups are go-for-broke players who has huge weapons who can hurt his rhythms. I'm not saying Nalbandian can't beat them and not a better player though, he certainly can but I'm just saying they are bad matchups for him. Blake, Wawrinka are all good examples.

Ferrer? ;)

alfonsojose
10-25-2007, 04:49 AM
Fat Dave :lol: :help:

prima donna
10-25-2007, 04:51 AM
Where he would be faced with fresh and motivated Nole, so for the outcome cf. Canada Masters 2007.
Hahahaha.

HNCS
10-25-2007, 04:58 AM
damn was wishing for an all swiss final at Basel...but it can only be an all swiss sem-final. oh well, i guess the tourny will be over the moon with that as well.

FedFan_2007
10-25-2007, 05:24 AM
Stan the Man aka "The Real Swiss #1" showing Donut Dave and Phat Federer how it's done....

HNCS
10-25-2007, 05:36 AM
it was so sweet of stan to say : good win for roger and me. at the end of the match.

nice one stan.

ugotlobbed
10-25-2007, 05:46 AM
stan gets revenge for rog

Action Jackson
10-25-2007, 05:55 AM
Yes Yes he is a good backhand, quoting my statement to prove a point isn't going to make his backhand become godlike. His problem is shot selection, once he masters that, he should be quite a handful.

He has one of the best backhands in the game, but his movement and as you said shot selection are his big problems, plus he is inconsistent on serve.

FedFan_2007
10-25-2007, 05:56 AM
Stan - he wins for 2.

ZakMcCrack
10-25-2007, 08:41 AM
Poor Roger, that loss really hurt! :hug: :p
Seriously though these statements don't flatter either of those 2 :tape:.

In any case it was a good win for Wawrinka. He played well overall and his serve was very good :yeah:. As for the 2nd set I have to say I agree with the poster quoted below:

Yes, Nalbandian surely didn't try as hard in the second set as he did in that long first set - where he actually wasn't able to return a total of (correct me if I'm wrong) 22 Serves...so it seems quite understandable to me, that he resigned a bit on the return side. Still, that doesn't take anything away from the great display of tennis Stan delivered up from the end of the first set when his bh down the line got more and more accurate. Congrats and now beat Berdych!

MaryX
10-25-2007, 10:12 AM
"It was a win for Roger and for me," Wawrinka told reporters. "I spoke to Roger after the Basel draw was made and he told me to win this one."

"I always enjoy playing him, even in the first two matches that I lost, but beating him today at home was unbelievable," said Wawrinka.

"It was a great match for me and I was very happy with how I served. I'm sure Roger will be just as happy with the way I played as with the result itself."

http://www.eurosport.yahoo.com/24102007/58/atp-tour-nalbandian-already-basel.html

Whenever I read Stan's interviews, he ALWAYS mentions Fed.


I noticed that too, and he should be very concerned about it.

I think it is called Edip's complex and demands urgent treatment.Call it venom, but I am worried about him ("Do not bow down to any idol or worship it, because I am the LORD your God "...)...

Apemant
10-25-2007, 11:27 AM
He has one of the best backhands in the game, but his movement and as you said shot selection are his big problems, plus he is inconsistent on serve.

Yup, overall he's so inconsistent. When he's on though, he's capable of just overpowering the opposition from both wings. Guess if you weren't very fond of him you could call him a 'mindless ball basher'. He certainly doesn't mind blasting the ball all day long.

Did you notice his habit of receiving 2nd serves even further behind the baseline than 1st? Obviously he has enough power on the backhand side that he prefers having enough time to react and having the ball on the fall, not on the rise. On 1st serve that wouldn't be an option, but most 2nd serves come just to the height where he likes them, some 3-4 meters behind the baseline. And then he just cracks them no matter which side they are. So much power, even if it doesn't put as much pressure on the server himself, as quicker returns from inside the field generally do, if they are good enough.

Action Jackson
10-25-2007, 11:32 AM
Yup, overall he's so inconsistent. When he's on though, he's capable of just overpowering the opposition from both wings. Guess if you weren't very fond of him you could call him a 'mindless ball basher'. He certainly doesn't mind blasting the ball all day long.

He has improved his serve and forehand, he lacks a bit of variety, but that is common with loads of players these days. He could think better on court, but he has improved over the last 2 seasons.

Did you notice his habit of receiving 2nd serves even further behind the baseline than 1st? Obviously he has enough power on the backhand side that he prefers having enough time to react and having the ball on the fall, not on the rise. On 1st serve that wouldn't be an option, but most 2nd serves come just to the height where he likes them, some 3-4 meters behind the baseline. And then he just cracks them no matter which side they are. So much power, even if it doesn't put as much pressure on the server himself, as quicker returns from inside the field generally do, if they are good enough.

He is a shotmaker and can play on all surfaces except grass and as for his 2nd serve return pattern, well it makes him feel comfortable and it works for him. As long as he makes that return count, then move closer to the baseline in the rallies, then that is fine.

joyk
10-25-2007, 01:32 PM
Oh good lord,I don't get this guy.

switz
10-25-2007, 01:59 PM
If only Stani could produce that more than a few times a year :sad: still he's getting better

Jaffas85
10-25-2007, 02:07 PM
Fortunately for Nalbandian he has plenty of time to rest ahead of Paris and has no points to defend there.

So he could end the year ranked #15 or #16 with a good run in Paris (good draw permitting).

keroni
10-25-2007, 02:24 PM
wawrinka's backhand is better than federer :eek:

LocoPorElTenis
10-25-2007, 03:00 PM
Fortunately for Nalbandian he has plenty of time to rest ahead of Paris and has no points to defend there.

So he could end the year ranked #15 or #16 with a good run in Paris (good draw permitting).

He will lose the points from last year's TMC. So he'll be lucky to end the year in the top 20.

Corey Feldman
10-25-2007, 03:10 PM
Dedicated to Diego Armando Maradona.

:lol:

rofe
10-25-2007, 03:22 PM
wawrinka's backhand is better than federer :eek:

.....against Nalby.

Richard_from_Cal
10-25-2007, 10:14 PM
Never so vulnerable to break, as when just after you've broken. David won a biggie, jumped up what?...fifteen spaces. Slipped a bit, mentally, perhaps.

Criminy.

Hendu
10-25-2007, 10:25 PM
Never so vulnerable to break, as when just after you've broken. David won a biggie, jumped up what?...fifteen spaces. Slipped a bit, mentally, perhaps.

Criminy.

Nalbandian didn't play that bad. It was Wawrinka playing out of his mind.