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"I don't practice as hard as I used to."

TenHound
10-23-2007, 08:15 AM
gotta do your homework :) :)
Since no one posted this Essential Reading, I will. (Harman writes for Brit. Times.) I think it deserves its own thread. If people agree they can consolidate etc.

This is what I meant by "End of an Era". Working like hell, doing everything he could to win each week, used to be central to Roger's life. Now other concerns are filtering into his consciousness, not surprisingly. Results will reflect that. I'm not saying he won't win more titles, Majors, Masters, whatever, just that a shift has occurred w/in him. He's moving to a new stage of his career. And we shall see how it's defined.

Hopefully, we can get more info. on his relationship w/Pierre. That seems crucial. He's said to be working w/Ana I. now. I don't know. Is it true? Is it permanent? Did separation come from Roger not wanting to work as hard & Pierre wants to see if he can take Ana to the top?
October 22, 2007

David Nalbandian takes hard route back



Neil Harman, Tennis Correspondent, in Madrid

The first time during the tournament he had lost his serve, the first time he lost a set, the first time a spouting water hose had ever interrupted him, but this was not the first time that David Nalbandian had contrived to introduce inklings of uncertainty into the mind of Roger Federer.

Nalbandian, who had suffered a year of frustration and lack of fulfilment, stunned the world No 1 - but clearly not himself – with a 1-6, 6-3, 6-3 victory in the Mutua Madrileña Masters final at the Pabellón de Cristal that reestablished the 25-year-old as a force to be reckoned with. It is just what Great Britain’s Davis Cup squad least wanted to hear about – another resurgent Argentinian.

Nalbandian had spent the best part of the year hanging around the periphery of the leading tournaments, having reached one quarter-final in 15 tournaments, at the relatively humble event in Barcelona in April. After Wimbledon, he teamed up with Martín Jaite, the former Argentina Davis Cup player, and put his physical conditioning into the hands of Fernando Cao, who has been responsible for knocking Guillermo Cañas and Fernando González into prime condition.

It was long felt that Nalbandian was held back by carrying a few more pounds around his girth than a potential grand-slam tournament champion ought. Those have been shed, along with the inhibitions that stymied him earlier. His form in Madrid has been exceptional, recovering from a set and 4-0 down to beat Tomas Berdych in the second round and yesterday joining Boris Becker in 1994 and Novak Djokovic in Montreal this summer as the third man in the history of the ATP Tour to defeat the world’s top three ranked players in succession to win a title.

When Federer pocketed the first set in half an hour, another victorious outcome appeared probable. Even the line-calling technology blew a fuse when Nalbandian questioned a serve by Federer. It seemed that nothing would go right. But once he began to play with enough aggression to pin back Federer and strike out with his customary unerring line and length, Nalbandian took a grip from which the Swiss could not escape.

It will make little difference to Federer’s end-of-season plans. He goes to Basle this week to keep his home-town fans content, is expected to play a part in Paris the week after and then defend his Masters Cup crown in Shanghai. “I don’t practise as hard as I used to,” he said. “There is not much point trying to improve your game after the US Open, it is about staying healthy and being ready for the new year to begin.”
{Then why the hell did he schedule not 1, but 3, exos w/Pete @a time he only wants to hang on & stay healthy??- T-H-}

That new year – and the old challenges, especially to enhance his clay-court game – is uppermost. Federer will add the Estoril Open in Portugal to his schedule for 2008.

Or Levy
10-23-2007, 09:38 AM
Okay, your title is a bit misleading, I think.

He's not practicing "as hard" in THIS part of the season, not as a general rule. He's taking his leg off the gas for the end of the year, which is smart - considering he's suppose to be playing three tounrmanet in three weeks and than the YEC.

I'm pretty darn sure he'll go back in practicing his ass off at the begining of the year, and we have heard more than one testimony this year on just how hard Roger practices, from Jesse Levine, for example, and a few others whose name I can't recall at the moment.

He didn't lose in Madrid (in the final, after taking the first set 6:1) cause he didn't practice enough, maybe because he wasn't challanged by great shot-makers in earlier rounds , maybe because he had an off day - but I doubt it's practice, his serve and shots were really clicking earlier in the tournament.

ExpectedWinner
10-23-2007, 03:53 PM
I'm not thrilled to read it. As you all know, I felt that there were periods earlier this year when he did not work hard. He admitted himself that he had physical issues in the RG final.
He should be careful. Sports on this high level are so cruel. While you're enjoying your life a little bit, someone works awfully hard. At some point he'll realize that he needs to do triple work to catch up. The problem is that human bodies refuse to work overtime, they respond with injures.

SUKTUEN
10-23-2007, 04:18 PM
he will prastice as he think it is enough~~

World Beater
10-25-2007, 01:33 AM
federer is not a machine. let him enjoy his life.

Sunset of Age
10-25-2007, 01:38 AM
Just ONE look at those pictures of Roger after his Madrid loss should convince everyone that he still wants to win each and every tournament he plays - and I'm sure he still works his ass off to get it done.

TenHound
10-25-2007, 06:31 AM
First off, speaking for myself, I'm not criticizing him. Just trying to read the tea leaves. Suggesting that he's in transit from Phase B to Phase C in his career, so it's up to us to adjust our expectations from showing up & collecting his trophy to picking his spots. Estoril suggests Paris a High Priority next yr.

Sports at this level are cruel - Agree totally. Tennis is one of the cruelest. Time so short. Effort so high. Health so fragile. Nowhere to hide. So little margin for error... They wear out emotionally in a few years at the top.

Roger has always made clear that he wanted to enjoy his career; Tiger by contrast is focused 100% on breaking J.N. record for Majors, according to Roger as relayed by Chris Clarey.

Watching him smash all comers off clay, was fantastic while it lasted...Thanks, Roger, for the memories :)

SUKTUEN
10-25-2007, 03:12 PM
federer is not a machine. let him enjoy his life.

I also want him can play happy tennis~~

because in this year he not look very happy~~:sad:

Minnie
10-25-2007, 11:24 PM
My expectations were lowered from the beginning of this year anyway because I didn't see how he could possibly match The Federer Year of 2006, so the fact that he's still won 3 slams has actually exceeded my expectations. I have no real expectations for 2008 - I just don't get upset by his losses the way I once did. If there came a time when he lost motivation, I'd be a bit sad but hope I'd just shrug my shoulders and say how grateful I am for the wonderful memories he's given me watching him play. I'm sure there'll be a few more "Federer moments" to come by the time he hangs up his racquet.

And Suktuen - I agree with you - there have been times this year when I've thought Roger hasn't looked happy on court - even when he's been winning.

mineralwater
10-26-2007, 12:46 PM
I agree that he doesn't look as happy even thought he still comes out with the most awesome tennis at times.
I think reading between the lines he's just trying to emphasise staying healthy and injury free at the end of the season because thats when players are most prone due to general tiredness. He had injuries 2004 and 2005 around this time so naturally wants to protect his body. This is why he has scaled down his schedule.
I also think he may skip Paris if he wins Basle because exhaustion = injuries. Its disappointing for the fans, I know, I was there last 2 years when he pulled out. I will be pleasantly suprised if he does go.

So the article I think is misleading, I'm pretty sure Roger is one of the hardest working guys out there - we just dont hear about it. He's still motivated and wants Petes record. I just think he's looking after himself better than some of the others

Go Roger!!

didadida
10-26-2007, 03:57 PM
i hope he stays healthy with no injuries
and end this year at number one
and i guess he will relieved after the season is over,and will good prepared for the next season
because i think it is going to be a very taugh season for roger

SUKTUEN
10-26-2007, 05:38 PM
I also hope he with no injuries~~

I worry about him play Paris, will be to hard ~~~

GonzoFed
10-26-2007, 10:16 PM
Typical Fedtard thread.

HNCS
10-27-2007, 08:57 AM
Typical Fedtard thread.

and you expected something else :retard:

Sunset of Age
10-28-2007, 05:32 AM
^^ Piss off, you idiot!

Sorry people, just wasn't able to control/contain myself, here... :sad:

FedFan_2007
10-28-2007, 07:31 AM
Expected thread. Nothing to see here. Moving on.

SUKTUEN
10-28-2007, 02:53 PM
:sad:

GonzoFed
10-28-2007, 07:17 PM
and you expected something else :retard:

No. But i still find amusing that after four years, some fans still panic and overreact when Federer loses a match.

ExpectedWinner
10-28-2007, 07:21 PM
No. But i still find amusing that after four years, some fans still panic and overreact when Federer loses a match.

This thread is not about Fed losing a match here and there.

GonzoFed
10-28-2007, 07:28 PM
This thread is not about Fed losing a match here and there.

But it started due to an article written after a loss, and the subsequent reactions were very influenced imo for that fact. Furthermore, if you read the article carefully you can realize that Federer was talking about not practicing so hard after the USO as a part of his training planification for the year, not because he is just getting lazy and unmotivated.

nobama
10-28-2007, 07:32 PM
This thread is not about Fed losing a match here and there.
No but it's the typical BS that comes up when he does lose.

ExpectedWinner
10-28-2007, 07:53 PM
But it started due to an article written after a loss, and the subsequent reactions were very influenced imo for that fact. Furthermore, if you read the article carefully you can realize that Federer was talking about not practicing so hard after the USO as a part of his training planification for the year, not because he is just getting lazy and unmotivated.

It's not how I see this thread. He's been an a robot mode for 4 years. It's impossible to continue like that. He'll play less and win less in the future. I have no problem with his reduced schedule and I can accept that the youngsters will overtake him eventually. But practicing less is a risky thing. For sure, the body will enjoy the break, but it'll be reluctant to work hard again. Both overtraining, and undertraining can cause injures. That's why I said he should be careful. It'd be a pity if this run ended with injures, esp now when 14 is within the reach.

GonzoFed
10-28-2007, 08:13 PM
It's not how I see this thread. He's been an a robot mode for 4 years. It's impossible to continue like that. He'll play less and win less in the future. I have no problem with his reduced schedule and I can accept that the youngsters will eventually overtake him. But practicing less is a risky thing. For sure, the body will enjoy the break, but it'll be reluctant to work hard again. Both overtraining, and undertraining can cause injures. That's why I said he should be careful. It'd be a pity if this run ended with injures, esp now when 14 is within the reach.

This is the bolded part of the OP:

“I don’t practise as hard as I used to,” he said. “There is not much point trying to improve your game after the US Open, it is about staying healthy and being ready for the new year to begin.”


English is not my native language, but what i understand is Federer talking about not practicing as hard as he used to until the USO, and this in the context of, as i mentioned in my previous post, his planification for the year. Probably he did exactly the same in the indoor season last year, but nobody worried because he didn't lose a match.

ExpectedWinner
10-28-2007, 08:57 PM
Probably he did exactly the same in the indoor season last year, but nobody worried because he didn't lose a match.

Well, he did not tell us about practicing less last year. One thing is us guessing about possible changings, the other is him admitting it.
Anyway, there is still some speculation involved. We don't know what "not practicing as hard as I used to" really means and how far he's planning to take it. I'd say that he may survive hitting less balls on the court, but he can't get away with working less off the court.