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Has Nalbandian woken up for real this time?

rofe
10-21-2007, 08:54 PM
He won TMC 2005 and many expected him to compete at the top 5 level in 2006. Now he is back and has showed us what he is capable off. He has also improved his serve so it seems he is bit more serious this time around. Will he be more consistent on tour or will his extra-curricular activities still distract him?

I would definitely like him to take tennis more seriously because it is such a pleasure to watch him when he plays like he did this week. What do you think?

scoobs
10-21-2007, 08:59 PM
We'll have to see, but if he has, look out. With the improved serve and apparent new mental toughness that saw him not waver at all against Djokovic, Nadal and Federer, he could be a major handful in 2008

It is a big "if" though.

He deserves to be back in the top 10 causing major problems, though - he's too damn talented to be languishing down in the 20s and losing in R3 of majors. I don't much care for him but I respect his game and you can see the talent he has. It's not too late for him to really turn it on.

LocoPorElTenis
10-21-2007, 08:59 PM
I would say he did compete at the top 5 level during 2006. He made SF of the AO where he choked against baggy, and then SF of RG where he was crushing Roger before getting injured. He also made semis of the TMC and ended the year in the top 10 (albeit not top 5).

I think he'll be back in the top 10 and possibly even top 5, but I doubt he'll win a slam or be a contender for the number 1, if that's what you mean by "waking up for real".

General Suburbia
10-21-2007, 09:19 PM
He just beat Djokovic, Nadal, and Federer.

Oh yes. He's gonna reward himself in a big, lard-filled way.

Savo
10-21-2007, 09:47 PM
Look at it this way. Al Bundy is big fat bear. It's almost winter time, so he needs to eat up, big fat wins and all. Then he will go into hibernation and God knows when he will wake up...

marcRD
10-21-2007, 09:52 PM
I hope to see him in a 5 set thriller in te AO open final against Federer. May the best man win.

RagingLamb
10-21-2007, 09:54 PM
who knows.

World Beater
10-21-2007, 10:17 PM
Look at it this way. Al Bundy is big fat bear. It's almost winter time, so he needs to eat up, big fat wins and all. Then he will go into hibernation and God knows when he will wake up...

:haha:

trixtah
10-21-2007, 10:18 PM
Yeah, no one can tell. He's still at a ripe age to do some of damage at the top of the game, but that's only if he applies himself.

Allure
10-21-2007, 10:53 PM
No

no name face
10-21-2007, 11:09 PM
In layman's terms, it is time for him to put up or shut up. If he disappears back into mediocrity, I don't think he'll be able to do this again.

jasmin
10-21-2007, 11:14 PM
I think it's temporary or sporadic at best. Djokovic did the same but it doesn't say as much from one win. So you never know how Nalbanian will play against a non sloppy Federer but Fed will be aware. I think Federer forgot like many people that Nalbanian is a threat.

R.Federer
10-22-2007, 12:00 AM
Only Safin truly understands what is going on in David's head.

Jogy
10-22-2007, 12:13 AM
I would not give on that
but it is great to have somebody a few times a year who can show such great performance to make tennis fun

ChinoRios4Ever
10-22-2007, 02:47 AM
you never know with Nalbi

Marek.
10-22-2007, 03:03 AM
I think and hope that he will this time.

Jaffas85
10-22-2007, 03:21 AM
Nalbandian was playing like a Top 5 player between the time he won the 05' T.M.C. to the time he withdrew from his 06' French Open semi.

From 06' Wimbledon until the 07' Madrid Masters he's been like a random top 30 player though now hopefully after his great Madrid win he'll be consistently playing as well as he did in beating the Top 3 to take Madrid.

Perhaps he can be a real contender for the Australian Open? I think the French is owned by Nadal and Wimbledon and the U.S. Open by Federer however he could have a real shot at the Australian Open should he maintain his Madrid level.

brent-o
10-22-2007, 04:07 AM
Possibly. After he and Mauresmo won their respective year-end championships, I predicted great things for them. Mauresmo went on to win TWO Grand Slams and now has faded into the background. Well, Nalbandian has been in the background all year so maybe he's doing the same thing but the opposite way around?

FedFan_2007
10-22-2007, 04:21 AM
Jury is out on this. I'm waiting to see what Nalby will do the next 4-5 months.

tripb19
10-22-2007, 04:40 AM
Jury is out on this. I'm waiting to see what Nalby will do the next 4-5 months.

Expect the unexpected.

Lucinda
10-22-2007, 07:24 AM
Maybe with the new coaching staff and all he'll be able to sustain some success.

LocoPorElTenis
10-22-2007, 07:55 AM
He seems to be more focused. But his confidence depends hugely on his results. Look what coming back on the Berdych match did to him. So the question is what's going to happen when he loses a tight match (and it's bound to happen because all players lost tight matches), will he just move on or will his confidence plummet once again.

zcess81
10-22-2007, 09:32 AM
He did extremely well this week and should be proud of what he's achieved, but if you're asking whether he is a contender for a slam or if he'll consistently win AMS titles...sadly no. He'll probably get back into top 10 for a while and then slowly slip down the rankings. Remember what happened to him after he won TMC? Everyone expected great things from him, but those great things never came.

KitinovRules
10-22-2007, 12:19 PM
He has woken up.
He got the money from Madrid (340.000 EUR)and he has enough time to go fishing now.
Not to forget the relly and his love for burgers and beer.

chocc0
10-22-2007, 12:31 PM
It's not Nalby's fault he's fat, everytime i sleep with him i give him a cookie!

Tankman
10-22-2007, 12:57 PM
Jury is out on this. I'm waiting to see what Nalby will do the next 4-5 months.

Agree. I'd reserve judgement on Nalbandian until at least Paris. It also really depends on whether he's disciplined enough during the off-season.

Dave's problem is that he always loses/struggles with the matches he shouldn't lose. If he manages to get some good results at AO then we can say he's 'woken up'

Caio_Brasil
10-23-2007, 06:59 PM
Here's an interesting post of Fernando Meligeni in his blog. Maybe these are old news, but they help to understand Nalby's mind:

http://blogdofininho.blog.uol.com.br/

Barba, Bigode e Cabelo do Nalbandian
Que semana David

O que aconteceu neste fim de semana acontece muito pouco no circuito de tênis.

Todos sabemos o talento do Nalbaldian, sempre disse que para mim ele tem jogo para ser numero 1 do mundo, falta apenas o comprometimento para isso.

Este ano não estava sendo nada maravilhoso para ele, não tinha conquistado nenhum título, o ranking despencando um pouco e muitos críticos de plantão recriminando seu amor pelos carros.

As pessoas esqueceram que o esporte se chama tênis e cada segunda feira o tenista tem mais uma chance de fazer historia. Ele mais uma vez fez, depois de conquistar o Master alguns anos atrás( coisa que quase ninguém esperava), fez mais uma das dele, ganhou em uma mesma semana do Djokovic, Nadal e Federer em um Master Series, o que dizer.................

Sempre tive uma relação muito legal com ele, me impressionava sua tranqüilidade e alegria jogando o circuito.

A 2 anos atrás fui convidado pra jogar um exibição em Punta del Este contra ele. Eu já tinha parado de jogar a mais de 2 anos e ele tinha acabado de ganhar o Master. Estava bem preocupado com o jogo, não pelo resultado em si, estava preocupado com o que ele ia fazer comigo na quadra.

No vestiário antes do jogo ficamos batendo papo por mais de 1 hora, entre uma risada e outra ele me perguntou como era a vida depois do tênis, se eu estava curtindo e se me arrependia de ter parado. Tais perguntas tinham sentido quando ele começou a me explicar o porque de ser tão tranqüilo e as vezes até treinar menos e jogar menos que os outros tops.

A grande frase veio assim, Fer, amo jogar tênis, faço porque gosto mesmo, mas se precisar abandonar minha vida, minha família,amigos e as coisas que amo fazer prefiro não ser numero 1 do mundo. Adoro rally, tenho uma equipe na Argentina e quero aproveitar isso também.

Quando falava dos carros seus olhos brilhavam, ele estava lá acompanhado de um corredor amigo dele e passamos mais tempo conversando sobre suas experiências dentro do carro do que dentro da quadra ou da épica vitória em Londres.

Mesmo com todo esse discurso impressiona seu talento e o que ele faz com a bola, tem uma esquerda quase perfeita, devolve saque como poucos e se mexe pouco na quadra( não que ele não queira, é que ele antecipa a jogada como poucos). Jogar com ele era difícil, você sabia que não ia ganhar nenhum ponto de graça no teu saque e que ele não a errar nenhuma esquerda. Um pesadelo.

Por um lado entendo o que ele diz porque não é fácil abdicar de tudo por um sonho,mais ainda quando o atleta conquistou tantas coisas, mas por outro fico me perguntando se ele chegaria bem perto do numero 1 do mundo se tivesse a fome do Federer, sei que todos vão dizer que não tem comparação, mas eu tenho minhas duvidas. Já vi ele fazer coisas incríveis.

Tênis não tem muita lógica as vezes, agora, algumas certezas sim, cada vez que o Nalbaldian joga..... vale a pena sentar e assistir.

Vocês gostam? Opinem

TRANSLATION (sorry for any writing error)

What a week David!

What happened this weekend hardly ever happens in the tennis circuit.

We all know Nalbandian's talent, i've always said that, IMO, he has the game to be world number 1, maybe it's just the commitment for this that is missing.

This year wasn't being wonderful for him at all, rank was falling down and lots of criticizers blaming his passion for cars.

People forgot that this sport is called tennis and on each monday the player has another chance to make history. He did once again, after winning the Masters two years ago (thing that almost noone believed) and did another of his shots, defeating in the same week Djokovic, Nadal and Federer. What can be said???

I've always had a nice relationship with him, i was impressed with his facility and happiness playing the tour.

2 years ago i was invited to play an exhibition against him on Punta del Este. I had already retired from tennis 2 years before that and he had just won the Masters Cup. I was very worried with the match. Not with the result at all, but with what he could do to me in the court.

In the locker room before the match we were talking for more than 1 hour, between one laugh and another he asked me how was life without tennis, if i was having fun and if i was regretful of having retired. Those questions made sense after he started explaining why he was so calm and sometimes both practiced and played less than other top players.

The big sentence came this way: "Fer, i love playing tennis, i do it because i really like, but if i have to leave my life, my familly, friends and things that i love i prefer not being a number 1. I love rally, i have a team in Argentina and i want to seeze this too".

While talking about cars his eyes were shining, he was there with pilot friend of him and we spent more time talking about his experiences inside the car than of his epic win in London.
Even with all this speech i'm impressed with his talent and what he does to the ball, he has an almost perfect backhand, returns serve like few players and moves very few on the court (not because he wants, but because he antecipates the play like few players do). Playing against him was hard, you knew you wouldn't win any point easily in your serve and that he wouldn't miss a backhand. A nightmare.

By one side i understand what he said because it isn't easy to leave all the things because of a dream, specially when a player had won many things, but in the other hand i wonder myself if he would arrive close to the number 1 if he had the hungry of Federer, i know everyone will say that we can't compare, but i have my doubts. I've already seem he doing amazing things.

Tennis doesn't have much logic sometimes, anyway it has some certains, yes. Like every time Nalbandian plays: it is worthy sitting and watching it.

Do you like it? Comment!

megadeth
10-24-2007, 12:03 AM
the same was said of safin after AO'05 :rolleyes:

ReturnWinner
10-24-2007, 02:02 AM
2 years ago i was invited to play an exhibition against him on Punta del Este. I had already retired from tennis 2 years before that and he had just won the Masters Cup. I was very worried with the match. Not with the result at all, but with what he could do to me in the court.


I remember that match, it was funny, then in the final he beat Massu.

that exhibition tournament was played in the parking of the most

important hotel of Punta del Este.

Eden
10-24-2007, 05:29 PM
Thought to post this Wertheim article here:


The pendulum swings
Nalbandian back on top of the world
Posted: Wednesday October 24, 2007

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/jon_wertheim/10/24/mailbag/p1_nalbandian_1024.jpg
David Nalbandian made a clean sweep of Rafael Nadal, Novak Djokovic and Roger Federer to win the Madrid Masters title.
AP

I suggest the title for this week's mailbag be simply "Nalbandian." A couple months ago, we were raining praise on Novak Djokovic for accomplishing an amazing feat when he beat David Nalbandian, Andy Roddick, Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer consecutively to win the Rogers Cup.

This week, Nalbandian surpasses that accomplishment. He is lower-ranked than Djokovic when he pulled this off, and Nalbandian's form has been lacking. He goes from being a locker-room Djoke for the shape of his belly to beating the top three players in the world consecutively. Add to that he beats Djokovic in the process who had done a Nalbandian impression at the U.S. Open by sticking his belly out (Djoke's on him), and it's an amazing result.

Nalbandian has too much game for the results he has been getting lately. Maybe his pride was hurt, and it motivated him to find his form. Let's hope this is a turning point, and that Nalbandian can get back to challenging for majors.
-- Sean, Tallahassee, Fla.

Let's first stop and take a moment to discuss the strange and fairly unique rhythms of tennis. It is, undeniably, a cruel sport, not least because all but one player ends the week on a losing streak. But tennis can also provide something darn near close to instant gratification.

Consider Nalbandian, whose career was in the porcelain depository 10 days ago. Here's a guy who had struggled to win half his matches this year. Suddenly he turns in a week of peerless tennis and -- apart from being nearly half a million dollars richer -- his career appears to be back on track. Hard to think of another sport where fortunes can change for the better so quickly.

This is precisely why we get burned time and again when we write players off. Doesn't matter how lousily you've played to date. Go into a "zone" for seven matches and suddenly you're a Grand Slam champion.

As for Nalbandian, in particular, this result was a long time coming. His story, in fact, is a lot like the discussion of last week's heroine, Elena Dementieva. Here's a guy who looked like a future world beater a few years back. By 21 he had been in the latter rounds of each Slam and had settled comfortably in the top. His game wasn't particularly flashy or inspiring, but he seemed to do everything well and was nearly indifferent to surface.

Then a few things happened. Federer -- whom he had always mastered going back to their days in the juniors -- came along. Nalbandian lost his father and, with it, some of his passion. (You'll recall his remark about losing at Wimbledon wasn't so bad because it afforded him to watch the World Cup.)

He suffered a series of nagging injuries. His confidence started to crack. His gut resembled the kind of swollen thing you'd see at the O'Hare food court. He fell not just from the top five or top 10 but outside the top 20. He was too talented for this decline and you figured eventually he would reverse course.

Can he "get back to challenging for majors," as Sean suggests? Sure. And not simply because he's only in his 20s or because he now has three months to improve his conditioning or because of this jolt of confidence. He can challenge for majors because he plays tennis, a sport that affords every half decent player a chance to conjure their best stuff for two magical weeks and suddenly become a champion.

Source: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/jon_wertheim/10/24/mailbag/

General Suburbia
10-24-2007, 07:08 PM
Time to jump off that bandwagon.

lorenz
10-24-2007, 07:21 PM
Thanks Eden & VaiBrasil
Nice articles

ycpg
10-24-2007, 07:45 PM
[QUOTE=VaiBrasil;6175032]Here's an interesting post of Fernando Meligeni in his blog. Maybe these are old news, but they help to understand Nalby's mind:

http://blogdofininho.blog.uol.com.br/




Very good:worship:

Kuhne
10-24-2007, 08:28 PM
Nalbandian IS woken up, he is a player with enough skill to win a masters every now and then and get to a grand slam final, that's how good he is, there's no hidden mistique like many people like to believe there is with Marat Safin, they are good players and when you are good, good things come to you and they both have been succesfull, it just sucks that one of those times wasn't a slam for nalbandian, maybe in the future but he will never be a dominating champion cos he simply isn't that good and his recent loss is proof

jasmin
10-24-2007, 10:15 PM
I agree Kuhne. People were expecting the next Federer. It's not going to happen with Nalby even though I like his tennis overall. He will win every now and then. Others have and will win over Federer. Does it mean they will be dominate.