The message being sent to the world number 1 and 2

zadle69
10-21-2007, 04:12 PM
I think there is a clear message being sent by the other guys on the ATP. It won't be easy and now other players are hungry to win slams and tournaments. I think Djokovic winning in toronto started the message and the other players are responding to the world number 1 and 2. What do you all think?

mangoes
10-21-2007, 04:13 PM
OH PLEASE................Nalbandian is a very good player. This fact has been known for years. Ever so often he goes on one of these runs in which he plays very good tennis. Such was Madrid.

zadle69
10-21-2007, 04:19 PM
i am saying that other players will now be more committed. do the work to win and break up the nadal federer monolopy of the game. In my opinion. what do you all think. Djovovic said it in his interview to break it up so it can other people in contention. In my opinion again. What do you all think?

World Beater
10-21-2007, 04:24 PM
i am saying that other players will now be more committed. do the work to win and break up the nadal federer monolopy of the game. In my opinion. what do you all think. Djovovic said it in his interview to break it up so it can other people in contention. In my opinion again. What do you all think?


the problem is that "other players" don't have the weapons of nalbandian and djokovic. You are not going to suddenly see baghdatis, gasquet and berdych start having great results because of these guys.

What we do know is when david and joker play well, they can beat anybody ALMOST anywhere.

Sunset of Age
10-21-2007, 04:27 PM
It's not like Nalby is actually the New Kid on the Block, you know... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

And #3 being a threat to both #1 and #2 isn't actually something new either.

Action Jackson
10-21-2007, 04:31 PM
I know why zadle is in the Arse Clown Contest.

DwyaneWade
10-21-2007, 04:33 PM
It's not like Nalby is actually the New Kid on the Block, you know... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

And #3 being a threat to both #1 and #2 isn't actually something new either.

Well did you think Davydenko, Ljubicic, and Roddick were threats when they were #3?


I don't think it's a "message" but I think 2006 was a very very rare year of dominance by Nadal and Federer and this year has been a return to normalcy with these players "catchign fire in a bottle" and improving their overall games (Nalby's serve, Djoko's everything)

scoobs
10-21-2007, 04:42 PM
What's clear is that, whatever the situation, there'll be no shortage of fans looking to draw sweeping conclusions.

Modetopia
10-21-2007, 04:58 PM
it is time to get lazy again.....:zzz:

vincayou
10-21-2007, 05:17 PM
the problem is that "other players" don't have the weapons of nalbandian and djokovic. You are not going to suddenly see baghdatis, gasquet and berdych start having great results because of these guys.

What we do know is when david and joker play well, they can beat anybody ALMOST anywhere.

Baghdatis, Berdych and Gasquet are just lacking confidence/motivation. Exactly like Nalbandian before this week. They have enough weapons to beat Fed/Nadal on their day.

Merton
10-21-2007, 05:50 PM
Your mailbox is full. You must delete old messages.

World Beater
10-21-2007, 05:57 PM
Baghdatis, Berdych and Gasquet are just lacking confidence/motivation. Exactly like Nalbandian before this week. They have enough weapons to beat Fed/Nadal on their day.

Gasquet and berdych have been lacking confidence/motivation for a long time. Baghdatis has been a first class MUG the past year or so.

A surprise upset is not out of the realm of possibility but to approach the level of a rivalry is something i am skeptical about with respect to these other players.

Even, then there are few players with weapons + mental ability to challenge roger regularly.

rofe
10-21-2007, 05:58 PM
Baghdatis, Berdych and Gasquet are just lacking confidence/motivation. Exactly like Nalbandian before this week. They have enough weapons to beat Fed/Nadal on their day.

Sorry I disagree. Baggy's movement is suspect and Gasquet tries to play an attacking game 10 feet from the baseline. I agree about Berdych though.

Exodus
10-21-2007, 06:04 PM
nadal as a major force in tennis is over

trixtah
10-21-2007, 06:08 PM
Oh please, even though so many people call David "fat," he moves extremely well and has some of the cleanest shots out there today

richie21
10-21-2007, 06:13 PM
Sorry I disagree. Baggy's movement is suspect and Gasquet tries to play an attacking game 10 feet from the baseline. I agree about Berdych though.

Well,at least ,it's not very hard to correct it.:o

FedFan_2007
10-21-2007, 06:16 PM
The big question is - does Dave go back to the donut shop or the gym?

A_Skywalker
10-21-2007, 06:47 PM
Lets hope it will be a turning point for David and he starts to take things more seriously ;)

Allure
10-21-2007, 06:54 PM
the problem is that "other players" don't have the weapons of nalbandian and djokovic. You are not going to suddenly see baghdatis, gasquet and berdych start having great results because of these guys.

What we do know is when david and joker play well, they can beat anybody ALMOST anywhere.

I disagree about Gasquet. I think he does have the weapons to defeat Nadal, Djoke, and maybe Federer. He needs to be more aggressive and have the right mentality to achieve so however.

Kitty de Sade
10-21-2007, 07:04 PM
Lets hope it will be a turning point for David and he starts to take things more seriously ;)

:yeah:

I'd love to see him in the mix consistently. We'll have to see if this trend continues- I sure hope it does.

World Beater
10-21-2007, 08:21 PM
I disagree about Gasquet. I think he does have the weapons to defeat Nadal, Djoke, and maybe Federer. He needs to be more aggressive and have the right mentality to achieve so however.

Well i don't think nalbandian or djokovic is suddenly going to open doors for other players. Im not sure i see where other guys can derive confidence from federer losing to joker and bandy.

Gasquet at the moment isn't the player mentally that joker is and even nalbandian. I also think he has less to trouble federer with than joker and nalbandian. Its a matchup thing. We havent seen nadal play gasquet on surfaces off clay for some time, so we shall see.

jasmin
10-21-2007, 11:00 PM
What's clear is that, whatever the situation, there'll be no shortage of fans looking to draw sweeping conclusions.

ITA...what would the message be....what... that they can lose some tournaments. This is not new. In 06 after Wimby Nadal lost a lot of his matches so I'm sure it's not a shock this year especially since he knows he's injured.

scarecrows
10-22-2007, 11:23 AM
the famous zaddle :worship:

garad
10-22-2007, 11:34 AM
I think there is a clear message being sent by the other guys on the ATP. It won't be easy and now other players are hungry to win slams and tournaments. I think Djokovic winning in toronto started the message and the other players are responding to the world number 1 and 2. What do you all think?

Rubbish. Is there a need for such a message? Do not all players want to beat anybody and win titles? Sure, Roger and Rafa didn't know until Toronto and Madrid that they are actually against some competition...

garad
10-22-2007, 11:37 AM
Well did you think Davydenko, Ljubicic, and Roddick were threats when they were #3?

Of course they were, they were closest to nr. 1 and 2 in the rankings.

Xristos
10-22-2007, 12:17 PM
nadal as a major force in tennis is over

I hope this was a joke.

Iván
10-22-2007, 12:21 PM
i dont think it was..

HNCS
10-22-2007, 01:04 PM
typical.... It's not as if Nalbandian was some new kid on the block... He's always been there, the players know it, it's just that the fans forgot about him. so... this isn't really sign of the decline.

Puschkin
10-22-2007, 01:11 PM
A surprise upset is not out of the realm of possibility but to approach the level of a rivalry is something i am skeptical about with respect to these other players.

I always considered Nalbandian a talented player and he fully deserved his win yesterday, but one big win does not yet establish a rivalry either.

FedFan_2007
10-22-2007, 04:11 PM
Now it's time for Safin and Hewitt to remerge into the fold.

Mr. Magassi
10-22-2007, 04:26 PM
we shall see at the next slam... ;)

BIGMARAT
10-22-2007, 05:49 PM
I think if ever the message has been sent, It would be to Roger alone.

Rafa already knows that he needs to work his ass to stay at number 2 while Federer top spot has never been threaten at all.

World Beater
10-22-2007, 06:24 PM
I always considered Nalbandian a talented player and he fully deserved his win yesterday, but one big win does not yet establish a rivalry either.

its a rivalry in terms of h-h.

but of course, we know federer is a much better than everyone. Even nadal is no rival for him at this point when it comes to greatness or being the undisputed #1.