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Madrid SF: David Nalbandian Reaches Final Over Novak Djokovic 6-4 7-6 (4)!!!!

Tzar
10-20-2007, 01:22 PM
#2 and then #3 players!!! Yess! :D FInally reaching his best game, Keep improving David!!
First final since ESTORIL 2006 :woohoo:

8 Aces for David
Noo Double Faults :eek:

9Aces
5 Df for Novak..

World Beater
10-20-2007, 01:22 PM
well done.:D

David is still hungry. the main course is yet to come

dijus
10-20-2007, 01:23 PM
vamosssssssss

Rogieva
10-20-2007, 01:23 PM
:clap2:

TMJordan
10-20-2007, 01:23 PM
Donut :rocker2:

GonzoFed
10-20-2007, 01:23 PM
The big question is : Can he beat Kiefer tomorrow?

TheBoiledEgg
10-20-2007, 01:23 PM
The Real Fat Boy is back :woohoo: :D :yeah:

LocoPorElTenis
10-20-2007, 01:24 PM
VAMOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:woohoo: :banana: :dance: :bounce: :woohoo:
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LocoPorElTenis
10-20-2007, 01:24 PM
I'm so happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :rolls: :crazy: :rocker2: :banana:

martine2
10-20-2007, 01:24 PM
:bigclap: :bigclap: Nalby!!

Exodus
10-20-2007, 01:24 PM
yeah yeah yeah david too bad king fed gonna beat him tmw

Action Jackson
10-20-2007, 01:25 PM
The Nalbandwagon is going to gather even more steam.

Well done David.

my0118
10-20-2007, 01:25 PM
now one more person is left. :haha:

Sunset of Age
10-20-2007, 01:25 PM
Beating the world's #2 and #3 within two days. What a job, Mr. Donut Dave!!!
:worship: :hatoff: :worship: :hatoff: :worship: :hatoff: :worship: :hatoff: :worship: :hatoff: :worship:

Ah, if tomorrow the Goat Cheese-thread needs bumping, I'd say I wouldn't feel too bad at all. :angel:

Allegretto
10-20-2007, 01:25 PM
81-68 total points won, yet Djokovic very nearly took it into a third set at 6-5 on Nalbandian's serve.

All in all a great performance from Dave though. :)

LocoPorElTenis
10-20-2007, 01:25 PM
Just unreal. Way to turn a season around David :)

Dimonator133
10-20-2007, 01:26 PM
bAn:yeah:

Adler
10-20-2007, 01:26 PM
There's one thing I'm sure about : Federer will have to bring his best game tomorrow or he'll get eaten, no question about it

ezekiel
10-20-2007, 01:26 PM
great play from Nalby, time for Nole to rest some more

Apemant
10-20-2007, 01:27 PM
Damn, it's been too long... I've almost forgot what Dave can do with a racquet

Some heavy serving in the 2nd set, both showed some serious nerves holding their games, but then Nole faltered a bit in the TB. Couldn't find a 1st serve and it's a death sentence against a returner of David's caliber.

marcRD
10-20-2007, 01:27 PM
(diving into the bandwagon here) THERE ARE 4 IN THE MIX!

Viken01
10-20-2007, 01:27 PM
VAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooSSSSSs !!!!

:D :D :D VAMOS DAVID !!!

great match one time again you made my day :D :D :D

Caio_Brasil
10-20-2007, 01:28 PM
wow

i love this guy...

LocoPorElTenis
10-20-2007, 01:28 PM
great play from Nalby, time for Nole to rest some more

:hatoff:

What is most amazing of all is that David hasn't been broken against Rafa and Nole. David's service games, especially near the end of the set, used to be a huge liability, even when Nalbi was in the top 10. It seems his work with Jaite is paying off in the mental department.

gusman890
10-20-2007, 01:29 PM
can he beat #1 now, so he can do the 1-2-3 sweep?

aeronatasha
10-20-2007, 01:29 PM
Great performance from Nalby, didn't give Novak much of a chance. Well deserved. Best of luck in the finals! Rooting for him to beat the Trinity!!:worship:

World Beater
10-20-2007, 01:29 PM
(diving into the bandwagon here) THERE ARE 4 IN THE MIX!

the coronation can only begin tomorrow.

Mechlan
10-20-2007, 01:29 PM
Congrats David. Well deserved.

justClaudia
10-20-2007, 01:29 PM
I'm so happy.

This is such an unexpected surprise, a bit unbelieveble even, after this terrible season.

Congratulations David, you deserve it.

:banana:

RogiRafaFan86
10-20-2007, 01:29 PM
Thank God! And thank you, David for getting that boy outta there. If he had to knock out one of my favorites, it's only right that he knock out one of my least favorites. The universe's way of balancing things out.

Klaas_nalbandian
10-20-2007, 01:29 PM
david, thank you for showing you qualities, hard times for nalby fans are over now maybe

Bilbo
10-20-2007, 01:29 PM
this nalby is good

Matrix
10-20-2007, 01:30 PM
A better player wins today. Nole's movement was no near his ability, backhand totally out of usual control, but all credit to Nalby. Nice win for him:yeah:

World Beater
10-20-2007, 01:30 PM
nalbandian served very well when it counted. It has almost become a strength the last couple of matches.

My thread title was better. :devil:

Exodus
10-20-2007, 01:30 PM
why can't safin do the same thing?

sawan66278
10-20-2007, 01:30 PM
Well done, David. Well done. I thank you for preventing Darth Cheater from making it to another Masters series final.

"In brightest day, in blackest night, no evil shall escape his sight. Let those who worship evil’s might beware his power… Nalbandian’s light!"

Apemant
10-20-2007, 01:30 PM
81-68 total points won, yet Djokovic very nearly took it into a third set at 6-5 on Nalbandian's serve.

Yup, that just shows nerves he's got. They just betrayed him in the end, after failing to take that SP.

Forever-Delayed
10-20-2007, 01:31 PM
Djokovic was nowhere near his best today, but Nalbandian was very impressive, especially on serve, and his first serve percentage points won was ridicoulously good, and that is obviously what he's spent a lot of time working on

Still don't think Dave at back to his absolute best, but the serve is so much better than it was, and it is helping him out tremendously, and that gives him a shot against Federer tomorrow as he won't get destroyed off the serve so easily... Federer would be the big favourite to win still

yana
10-20-2007, 01:31 PM
Welcome Back, David!

Same time, same place, same result tomorrow, please!

World Beater
10-20-2007, 01:32 PM
Yup, that just shows nerves he's got. They just betrayed him in the end, after failing to take that SP.

did you see the match? djokovic hit a great return near the baseline only for bandy to rifle it right back. Djokovic had no chance on that specifc pt. He did bomb out a couple stupid shots at 0-30 but so did bandy to get there.

Adler
10-20-2007, 01:33 PM
Now we know that having MP against Ferrer was not a fluke :haha:

Alex999
10-20-2007, 01:34 PM
Well done Nalby. Now go and win tomorrow. Novak get rested.

Matrix
10-20-2007, 01:34 PM
Satan66278 is at his usual, stupid as hell. Such a disgrace for the human kind this boy is..

Tom Paulman
10-20-2007, 01:34 PM
David :worship: Thanks for my money (again)! I hope he can win the whole thing now, he's so joyful to watch, so many beautiful points, especially that lob in the 2nd set

foul_dwimmerlaik
10-20-2007, 01:35 PM
Very good form from Nalby this match. Super-solid on serve. Novak needs to rest before Shanghai, he's overplayed this season already.

Congrads Fat Dave, win the title now.

FedFan_2007
10-20-2007, 01:35 PM
Fed will still eat him alive TMW>

Psichogauchovna
10-20-2007, 01:35 PM
what a fantastic week, finally some great wins, Nalby :woohoo: :smooch:

Action Jackson
10-20-2007, 01:35 PM
Damn, it's been too long... I've almost forgot what Dave can do with a racquet

Some heavy serving in the 2nd set, both showed some serious nerves holding their games, but then Nole faltered a bit in the TB. Couldn't find a 1st serve and it's a death sentence against a returner of David's caliber.

Funny how people are getting their memories jolted about Nalbandian's abilities. This is a generic statement

They never disappeared, he is a very talented and also one of the better tactical minds out there when he can apply himself. Good result for the big man, but as for a resurgence, too early to tell.

If he beats Federer tomorrow, he will need 10 bandwagons.

MCL
10-20-2007, 01:35 PM
:hatoff: to Nalbandian for another impressive win

Thank David for making it worth my early morning rise to watch the last half of the match. It's good to see him display his talent and go far in a tourny. :) I really hope he keeps the level up in the next match and beyond.

Like Rafa, I'm sure Nole will be back and playing better at the next tournament.

Rogiman
10-20-2007, 01:36 PM
So good to see Nalbandian (one of the 2 best shotmakers in the game) showing his class again :yeah:

Tomorrow's match with Federer could go down as match of the year.

aeronatasha
10-20-2007, 01:38 PM
It would be sooo great if he could take down Federer. So excited about the finals! Though I'm not ruling out Kiefer, I've seen one too many surprizes on this tournament.

Apemant
10-20-2007, 01:38 PM
Djokovic was nowhere near his best today, but Nalbandian was very impressive, especially on serve, and his first serve percentage points won was ridicoulously good, and that is obviously what he's spent a lot of time working on

Yup, Nole didn't seem to be fired up as usual. He did show glimpses of what he is capable of in this match-up. I mean, even though David won most of the rallies with his pinpoint accuracy of shots (especially that BH!! :eek: :worship: ), in some of them Nole was able to generate amazing power seemingly effortlessly, forcing David into total submissive defending.

Anyway, today placement beat power, we'll see how it turns out next time.

And I agree about David's serve - where the hell did he learn to do that? I mean, he was winning over 90% 1st serves against Nadal, and now 85% against Nole (which was actually over 90% for most of the match). WTF?! :eek:

Neely
10-20-2007, 01:38 PM
Impressive and unexpected week from Nalbandian :eek: :hatoff:

I know, tough choice, but he should better quit the doubles in the evening now to get himself a proper rest before and not leave the facility at 10pm before a final the next day. But that's not that easy so he will play.

They never disappeared, he is a very talented and also one of the better tactical minds out there when he can apply himself.
And probably no football match or race today at the time of the match and in his mind.

freeandlonely
10-20-2007, 01:38 PM
Nervous at the 12th game of 2nd set,but he overcame:bigclap: :banana:

Dimonator133
10-20-2007, 01:39 PM
to what can be attributed this drastic turnaround for the donut?


'cause let's be honest, Dave has been relatively atrocious this season, compared to normal standards

Caralimon
10-20-2007, 01:39 PM
Well done Dave, this came absolutely from nowhere.

No matter what happens tomorrow, this is encouraging for him looking ahead for next season.

azinna
10-20-2007, 01:39 PM
Truly good stuff from David. Used the fast surface well in varying his usual angles with flat-out pace and depth to the Djokovic forehand. That sort of constant pressure (while brushing off the inevitable errors) pretty much exposed Djokovic's discomfort at being an early aggressor.

Apemant
10-20-2007, 01:39 PM
did you see the match? djokovic hit a great return near the baseline only for bandy to rifle it right back. Djokovic had no chance on that specifc pt. He did bomb out a couple stupid shots at 0-30 but so did bandy to get there.

You misread my post... I was referring to the fact that he saved himself numerous times with some serious serving, and then in the TB he couldn't find a 1st serve and even hit a DF once. That's what I meant by nerves letting him down, I didn't mean it about the SP. Yes, SP was saved by David fair and square.

MisterQ
10-20-2007, 01:40 PM
Great to see Nalbandian return to such a high standard of play.

FedFan_2007
10-20-2007, 01:41 PM
I didn't know Nalby was capable of this kind of attacking tennis.

*bunny*
10-20-2007, 01:41 PM
Well done Nalby. :D
It's amazing what he can do when he puts his mind to it.
And I don't think I'd ever seen him serve so well.
Nole probably had too much tennis lately, but he was constantly put under pressure because Nalby was so good.
Now, make it one more win and I will forgive you for giving a beatdown to Rafa. ;)

LocoPorElTenis
10-20-2007, 01:42 PM
And once again, to think that Birdshit was up 6-4 4-0 against fat Dave. Something clicked in Nalbi's mind at that point, since he hasn't dropped a set since.

Rogiman
10-20-2007, 01:43 PM
I didn't know Nalby was capable of this kind of attacking tennis.Congratulations for watching Nalbandian play for the first time :hug:

justClaudia
10-20-2007, 01:45 PM
Fed will still eat him alive TMW>

Probably. Actually, likely.

But right now, does it really matter? This guy just reached a final in Masters series event, after the most craptastic season. So who cares about what's gonna happen tomorrow. It's all about today, and what he has done TODAY.

:D

Apemant
10-20-2007, 01:45 PM
Funny how people are getting their memories jolted about Nalbandian's abilities. This is a generic statement

They never disappeared, he is a very talented and also one of the better tactical minds out there when he can apply himself. Good result for the big man, but as for a resurgence, too early to tell.

I agree that it's too early... but I disagree about my memory being jolted :devil: - I've always maintained that he's extremely talented even when he didn't play well. And you can't deny that this year definitely doesn't do justice to his talent.

This particular victory seems good because it's against someone who is great himself and who usually wins even if not playing his best. But have no fear, I'm not going to let myself get carried away with it. ;)

LocoPorElTenis
10-20-2007, 01:46 PM
Fed will still eat him alive TMW>

Fed is the favorite, but isn't eating alive too much? I can bet it's going to be a close match, with at least a tb and a good chance of going to 3 sets.

Psichogauchovna
10-20-2007, 01:46 PM
Congratulations for watching Nalbandian play for the first time :hug:

:lol:

Jelena_78
10-20-2007, 01:46 PM
Nole,another good week! Went further than last year,and had to leave sth.for the next...;)
Have some rest before Paris and Shanghai.

Congrats to Nalby!:worship: He's been playing fantastic this week!
Back on the track!:yeah:

no name face
10-20-2007, 01:47 PM
Nalby :woohoo:

Andi-M
10-20-2007, 01:47 PM
:sad: Nole

It is great to see Fat Boi back though.....Beat Fed now!!!!!

yana
10-20-2007, 01:47 PM
Fed will still eat him alive TMW>


OK, Mirka

Forehander
10-20-2007, 01:48 PM
lmao finally once again Nalbandian goes on fire setting up another Roger David rival match. Awesome job!

Dilara
10-20-2007, 01:49 PM
aww david :D

Apemant
10-20-2007, 01:49 PM
Congratulations for watching Nalbandian play for the first time :hug:

LOL ditto, I wanted to say something like 'just what kind of tennis you thought Nalby was playing if not pure attacking through pinpoint accurate ball placement?'

Bascule
10-20-2007, 01:49 PM
Great performance from fat one, unbelievable serve! Congats, Nalbi.
Nole was too much nervous, made many mistakes, service not so good.

stebs
10-20-2007, 01:50 PM
Great win for Nalbandian and he is showing what he can do again which is always going to be good for the game when you have someone as talented as David on his game.

Question is not can he beat Federer tomorrow, whether he does or doesn't he has had a great week. The question is can he keep playing this well or, assumming that even when he is playing well over a stretch of timethis is a peak, can he play nearly as well as this consistently? I hope he can and he will be top 8 if he does, that is for sure, would be awesome to see Fat Dave around during the latter stages of the slams again and he is one guy who you know will always have great matches if he finds the right opponent.

LocoPorElTenis
10-20-2007, 01:50 PM
This is the first final for Dave since winning Estoril last year. And only the second final after his TMC win.

Sunset of Age
10-20-2007, 01:50 PM
Congratulations for watching Nalbandian play for the first time :hug:

:haha:

Action Jackson
10-20-2007, 01:51 PM
And probably no football match or race today at the time of the match and in his mind.

He plays well on all surfaces, it just depends on his mental state. He has a proper coach now, but like I said before if he can bothered his game is good enough for the top 10.

Though in great MTF tradition the knee jerk reactions are hilarious.

Forehander
10-20-2007, 01:51 PM
such hype is not the first time for this man lol. So settle down everybody.

FedFan_2007
10-20-2007, 01:52 PM
Now Fat Dave can celebrate with a box of donuts!

jonny84
10-20-2007, 01:53 PM
David is having a great tournament here!

Action Jackson
10-20-2007, 01:56 PM
I agree that it's too early... but I disagree about my memory being jolted :devil: - I've always maintained that he's extremely talented even when he didn't play well. And you can't deny that this year definitely doesn't do justice to his talent.

This particular victory seems good because it's against someone who is great himself and who usually wins even if not playing his best. But have no fear, I'm not going to let myself get carried away with it. ;)

So he has had a poor year, this happens to a lot of players. This result won't save him having a poor year overall, just shows what he is capable of and jolted some memories.

Djokovic did win an event last week and made the semis here, so this is a progression for him, but he didn't get the job done today.

darnyelb
10-20-2007, 01:59 PM
so awesome. congrats on a great week to David !

Johnny Groove
10-20-2007, 02:01 PM
I didn't know Nalby was capable of this kind of attacking tennis.

Then you are a fucking idiot :rolleyes:

Im so proud of David this week :awww: Hes gotten so much shit for such a long time, but im so glad that hes finally gotten himself back together :hug:

Apemant
10-20-2007, 02:01 PM
So he has had a poor year, this happens to a lot of players. This result won't save him having a poor year overall, just shows what he is capable of and jolted some memories.

Ok, you win... I guess it's just a matter of excitement, this what you call knee-jerk reactions. :devil: Give me 30 mins to cool out and I'll get back to normal :cool:

Rafa = Fed Killa
10-20-2007, 02:02 PM
Then you are a fucking idiot :rolleyes:

Im so proud of David this week :awww: Hes gotten so much shit for such a long time, but im so glad that hes finally gotten himself back together :hug:

:worship:

The idiot part is dead on

and

Nalbandian = The greatest player to never win a Grand Slam

Sleepwalker64
10-20-2007, 02:03 PM
Too good Nalbandian!:yeah:
Welcome back.

Novak was nowhere near his usual self.

justClaudia
10-20-2007, 02:03 PM
So he has had a poor year, this happens to a lot of players. This result won't save him having a poor year overall, just shows what he is capable of and jolted some memories.

Djokovic did win an event last week and made the semis here, so this is a progression for him, but he didn't get the job done today.

This result will not by any means save his season. But it can mean something, maybe things are turning around here. Or maybe not. I mean, who knows, this is David Nalbandian and anything goes with him. :lol:

Right now I'm so happy that I don't even want to overanalyze this. Not yet.

Action Jackson
10-20-2007, 02:11 PM
This result will not by any means save his season. But it can mean something, maybe things are turning around here. Or maybe not. I mean, who knows, this is David Nalbandian and anything goes with him. :lol:

Right now I'm so happy that I don't even want to overanalyze this. Not yet.

It's not that, it's just the knee-jerk reactions that make me laugh.

Of course enjoy the result, it's not like he hasn't been able to play tennis.

*Jean*
10-20-2007, 02:13 PM
David :bounce:

NikolaBGD
10-20-2007, 02:14 PM
68 wins this year, 8 in last 12 days...Nole, take some rest for end of a season!

Congratulation Nalby, he deserve this win!

kinglear
10-20-2007, 02:14 PM
He's like the Dementieva of the ATP: he goes on these amazing streaks. I wish him the best because I think he has a beautiful game. I wish I could play like him. :) :worship: I think David can definitely wipe the floor with Kiefer, but David needs to stay focused.

Andre'sNo1Fan
10-20-2007, 02:14 PM
Tennis has missed David Nalbandian, so glad to see him back :D

Hope he maintains this too, so much more interesting to watch than the likes of Ferrer and Robredo, and much more talented, too.

Rogiman
10-20-2007, 02:17 PM
Tennis has missed David Nalbandian, so glad to see him back :D

Hope he maintains this too, so much more interesting to watch than the likes of Ferrer and Robredo, and much more talented, too.The day has come when you actually post something sensible :eek:

shotgun
10-20-2007, 02:20 PM
Didn't see the match, but defeating Nadal and Djokovic back-to-back is very impressive. :eek: Especially for a guy like Nalbandian who has a recent history of losing semi-final matches.

Federer and Nalbandian had some good matches between themselves in the past, one can only hope it won't be as one-sided as the one in Madrid last year.

Metis
10-20-2007, 02:25 PM
:banana: What a great week for David!!! Win it all Nalby! :D

rofe
10-20-2007, 02:27 PM
Didn't expect this result. Happy that Dave proved me wrong. Dave was too steady while Novak was too flat. That made the difference.

Dave has been working on his serve during his downtime.

Clara Bow
10-20-2007, 02:28 PM
So he has had a poor year, this happens to a lot of players. This result won't save him having a poor year overall, just shows what he is capable of and jolted some memories.

Djokovic did win an event last week and made the semis here, so this is a progression for him, but he didn't get the job done today.

I think for me as a fan of David- one reason why I am so happy is that frankly I was worried that once he started his slide- he really wouldn't care enough to get back and be a factor at tournaments. Overly dramatic, yes- but since David has not always shown a big commitment to the sport despite his talent, meh....

Still a good week for Nole- semis at a Masters is nothing to sneeze at.

guga2120
10-20-2007, 02:37 PM
Damn, what the hell is fat Dave doing? I had Novak winning this thing.

Kolya
10-20-2007, 02:38 PM
Vamos Nalbandian!

Beat Federer now!

celia
10-20-2007, 02:40 PM
First the Pork. Then the Dork. I like it!!! Nice work Nalby!!! :worship:

Marek.
10-20-2007, 02:42 PM
It's so great to see Nalby back. If he beats Fed tomorrow, (granted Fed beats Kiefer) I wouldn't mind at all. :)

R.Federer
10-20-2007, 02:51 PM
Totally expected result :D

R.Federer
10-20-2007, 02:51 PM
First the Pork. Then the Dork. I like it!!! Nice work Nalby!!! :worship:
:haha:

R.Federer
10-20-2007, 02:53 PM
can he beat #1 now, so he can do the 1-2-3 sweep?

He can do it. And who would begrudge him a win against Federer, if Fed gets to the final, and make a real nice fairytale?

I certainly would not mind and I hope it's going to be Federer in the final and they make a great match of it!

MaryX
10-20-2007, 02:58 PM
Very good match for David :worship: .

Djokovic can't beat Federer the way he plays now, so he should rest and practice in order to find his A game.

spriwi
10-20-2007, 02:59 PM
well done :yeah:

Sunset of Age
10-20-2007, 03:03 PM
He can do it. And who would begrudge him a win against Federer, if Fed gets to the final, and make a real nice fairytale?

I certainly would not mind and I hope it's going to be Federer in the final and they make a great match of it!

Fully agree, if he manages to beat #2, #3, AND #1, that would be an awesome achievement indeed.

acionescu
10-20-2007, 03:21 PM
The big question is : Can he beat Kiefer tomorrow?

:haha:

sawan66278
10-20-2007, 03:22 PM
Am I the only one who would like to see David win a slam next year?

Could this be an Agassi-like resurgence? I hope so...

When you note David's superlative play for Argentina in the Davis Cup with the Olympics coming up next year...don't call it a comeback, he's been here for years...;)

R.Federer
10-20-2007, 03:28 PM
Am I the only one who would like to see David win a slam next year?

Could this be an Agassi-like resurgence? I hope so...

Didn't he win the USO 2003? I swear I saw the ball go in at matchpoint :shrug:

Johnny Groove
10-20-2007, 03:30 PM
Didn't he win the USO 2003? I swear I saw the ball go in at matchpoint :shrug:

Me too. That 143 mph Roddick serve out wide indeed, DID land in :)

R.Federer
10-20-2007, 03:32 PM
Me too. That 143 mph Roddick serve out wide indeed, DID land in :)
Neh neh ni neh neh.... you got my point. ;) I forgot the minor details like 143 etc.

That unfortunately is the closest he got to winning a big one.

Allure
10-20-2007, 03:33 PM
David. :worship: :worship: Fakervic and asspicker out. :woohoo:

Johnny Groove
10-20-2007, 03:33 PM
Neh neh ni neh neh.... you got my point. ;) I forgot the minor details like 143 etc.

That unfortunately is the closest he got to winning a big one.

Dave, so close on so many occasions, poor guy.

sawan66278
10-20-2007, 03:36 PM
David must also be happy about knocking Darth Cheater out after his "less than flattering" impression of him (where he pushed his stomach out to emphasize David's weight).

Action Jackson
10-20-2007, 03:38 PM
Didn't he win the USO 2003? I swear I saw the ball go in at matchpoint :shrug:

But hey you are deaf as well :)

This isn't about that US Open match with Roddick, now the old foes are meeting up.

The Freak
10-20-2007, 03:39 PM
Good win David. :worship:
Now slaughter Federer tomorrow. :p

tripb19
10-20-2007, 03:42 PM
Fucking finally Dave! Showing something to your fans after a year of disgusting shit.

Well done Dave, I love have you doing well :hug:

Action Jackson
10-20-2007, 03:43 PM
Fucking finally Dave! Showing something to your fans after a year of disgusting shit.

Well done Dave, I love have you doing well :hug:

I thought you had given up on him.

Merton
10-20-2007, 03:49 PM
Well done David, I am glad I was wrong about this match, nice to see him in a big final.

tripb19
10-20-2007, 03:53 PM
I thought you had given up on him.
Yeah just logging on here everyday to talk about him, giving up my Saturday nights to watch him play Djokovic. I cracked the shits with him losing to Davy because he played like a frigging spud. I'll never give up on him because he's still the only one I can really identify with.

ChinoRios4Ever
10-20-2007, 04:02 PM
Fit Dave :bigclap:

DDrago2
10-20-2007, 04:10 PM
I thought Djokovic will win, what a surprise.
Nalby seems to be in the form of his life, back on track as a threat to everyone like he used to... you just wonder how long he will play on high level.
Even if he fails to beat The King tomorrow he should now be a serious condender for AO 2008 title

aeronatasha
10-20-2007, 04:18 PM
I don't think Novak would last long against Fed in his current form, he seems tired.
Still, expected him to be much more agressive, but I guess Nalby was too solid and very precise. Made very few mistakes. Moved superbly. Completely deserved win.

GlennMirnyi
10-20-2007, 04:38 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

So great to watch Fakervic lose. Huge cheater got what he deserved. :D

Corey Feldman
10-20-2007, 04:42 PM
:haha: 2 days in a row i come home to superb results...

what happened to the Serb GOAT? crapped himself from playing against Fed, thats what.

Novak would last long against Fed in his current form, he seems tired.Never in doubt.

jcempire
10-20-2007, 04:45 PM
Shit, What the hell Djok did??? SUck

jcempire
10-20-2007, 04:46 PM
Nalbandian is really coming back

Allure
10-20-2007, 04:49 PM
This is officially the best masters series of the season. :worship:

Lunaris
10-20-2007, 04:52 PM
I always liked Nalbandian's game, his backhand dtl left me in awe many many times. It's a shame he hasn't played well enough to appear on TV lately. Hopefully this is some sort of turnaround for him because I really would like to see him in Slams semis again, at least.
Good job, David. :yeah:

Sakura 0101
10-20-2007, 04:55 PM
David :bigclap:

Nole :hug:

LinkMage
10-20-2007, 05:02 PM
Didn't he win the USO 2003? I swear I saw the ball go in at matchpoint :shrug:


Blame the USTA for gift-wrapping Robo Rod his fluke Slam win.

my0118
10-20-2007, 05:05 PM
BTW Djokovic's parents have no job? They are following every tournament of his, which is annoying.

cmurray
10-20-2007, 05:08 PM
ah...Dahveed. :hug:

Well done. I enjoy his game immensely when its on. He's a wonderful baseliner.

Vlad
10-20-2007, 05:12 PM
Nalbandian is playing the best tennis in his life and he deserved to win. Djokovic however played with 20% of his abilities. He definitely needs some rest.

Corey Feldman
10-20-2007, 05:14 PM
BTW Djokovic's parents have no job? They are following every tournament of his, which is annoying.Its Hewitt's parents allover again... they even look the same, clapping away like mad when he wins a point.

nothing wrong with that mind you, just supporting their boy

Nole's a better player than Nalbandian, im sure mamma would have been saying while :hug: the crying Novak.

Kuhne
10-20-2007, 05:14 PM
I love David I think it's awesome that he broke the hearts of many Raftards and Djokolovers (mostly Federer haters) but I am sad that he'll lose in straights tomorrow.

Kitty de Sade
10-20-2007, 05:15 PM
Molto bene fatto, Nalby- good for you! :yeah:

Allure
10-20-2007, 05:17 PM
BTW Djokovic's parents have no job? They are following every tournament of his, which is annoying.

That is their job.

NYCtennisfan
10-20-2007, 05:18 PM
Steadily, Nalbandian has improved his serve, especially the one out wide on the deuce court. He could always hit his spots with it, but now he's doing it consistently. He's hitting more aces, getting more short replies, and it's all allowing him to get on top early in serve games. A tremendously beautiful game and a beautiful player to watch when he plays like this.

oneandonlyhsn
10-20-2007, 05:30 PM
why can't safin do the same thing?

:sad: I am almost starting to give up hope for the Safinator, keyword almost.

http://209.85.48.9/2334/86/emo/78.gifhttp://209.85.48.9/2334/86/emo/78.gifhttp://209.85.48.9/2334/86/emo/78.gif The guy is such a joy to watch, I really hope he is finally getting his shit right. I want him to get back to the top 5, and not be a no show that he has been all year.

Good luck to both Fed and Dave tomorrow, I dont really care who wins I just want them to play their best and give us a good match. Vamos

my0118
10-20-2007, 05:31 PM
Its Hewitt's parents allover again... they even look the same, clapping away like mad when he wins a point.

nothing wrong with that mind you, just supporting their boy

Nole's a better player than Nalbandian, im sure mamma would have been saying while :hug: the crying Novak.

You're saying I'm overreacting? :scratch:
But to me, they are so annoying, maybe if they followed time to time or them clapping like worshippers of their baby is not shown on camera at least, I wouldn't say. But they follow every single tournament he plays.

Tommy fan
10-20-2007, 05:45 PM
David :worship: :bounce:
Whohoooo!!!! Vamos!!!!
Goodluck tommorow!!!

Corey Feldman
10-20-2007, 05:55 PM
You're saying I'm overreacting? :scratch:No, i agree with you :yeah:

im saying there is nothing wrong with going to every championship he's in, its what comes out of their mouths that concern me/make me laugh :p

my0118
10-20-2007, 06:06 PM
That is their job.

:lol: maybe it's because Djokovic's prize money is their bread and butter. :shrug: Go Novak my boy for our better old age!! :p

No, i agree with you :yeah:

im saying there is nothing wrong with going to every championship he's in, its what comes out of their mouths that concern me/make me laugh :p

:lol: oh okay I was bit of confused by the middle line you had written. ;)

Allure
10-20-2007, 06:15 PM
:lol: maybe it's because Djokovic's prize money is their bread and butter. :shrug: Go Novak my boy for our better old age!! :p



:lol: oh okay I was bit of confused by the middle line you had written. ;)

He needs them to offer insightful commentary like, ''Federer is scared of Novak'' and ''Novak is better than Federer.'' ;)

aeronatasha
10-20-2007, 06:17 PM
:haha: 2 days in a row i come home to superb results...

what happened to the Serb GOAT? crapped himself from playing against Fed, thats what.

Never in doubt.

I just said Novak seemed tired. He seemed off to me during the early rounds (dropping 2 sets, playing below his level), but was still pushing through, like he's supposed to do. Today he lost to a better player no doubt. If he had somehow managed to take it to the 3rd set and win, I think he would have been too tired to battle with Fed. Is that so unreal to you?:rolleyes:
That said, I think Nalby will have a rough time getting past Fed. I'm hoping for a great final. :wavey:

Fedex
10-20-2007, 06:19 PM
Well done, David. :) I don't think I have ever seen Nalbandian serve as well as he has this tournement; that has always been his achilles heel.

Farenhajt
10-20-2007, 08:02 PM
Good win. Almost everything worked for Nalby, almost nothing worked for Novak. David got his revenge for Montreal, and Nole got an extra day of rest.

musefanatic
10-20-2007, 08:07 PM
Oh god Nole! :sad: Ah i can't believe he didn't even get a set off him :sad: Well done to David i guess though, playing really really well! No chance against Roger though tomorrow.

Peoples
10-20-2007, 08:15 PM
Half a year ago most would have been shocked if Djoko had beaten Nalbandian, now it seems like it's the opposite reaction

Corey Feldman
10-20-2007, 08:30 PM
and Nole got an extra day of rest.Is Nole playing a tournament next week?

Savo
10-20-2007, 08:35 PM
For his sake, I hope not...

Rogiman
10-20-2007, 08:48 PM
Steadily, Nalbandian has improved his serve, especially the one out wide on the deuce court. He could always hit his spots with it, but now he's doing it consistently. He's hitting more aces, getting more short replies, and it's all allowing him to get on top early in serve games. A tremendously beautiful game and a beautiful player to watch when he plays like this.He's always been one of the best players indoors, perhaps it's because the quick surface makes his (otherwise weak) serve seem bigger.

Farenhajt
10-20-2007, 08:50 PM
Is Nole playing a tournament next week?

I don't think so. He's been keeping Basel optional, but he's not going there. Already played over 80 matches this season.

Corey Feldman
10-20-2007, 09:27 PM
Nole is a guy who has the schedule right...... play Vienna, Madrid - then take a break - make sure you are fit for the Paris Indoor.

NYCtennisfan
10-20-2007, 09:30 PM
He's always been one of the best players indoors, perhaps it's because the quick surface makes his (otherwise weak) serve seem bigger.

He uses the one out wide really well indoors, but he was also serving a lot better at the Open this year.

leng jai
10-20-2007, 09:31 PM
Donut Dave is well and truly back. Good to see you've silenced all the annoying fakervic fans and this is very important for the sanity of many on MTF.

GonzoFed
10-20-2007, 09:32 PM
Nole is a guy who has the schedule right...... play Vienna, Madrid - then take a break - make sure you are fit for the Paris Indoor.

Yep. And BTW, What is Federer going to do this year? I don't know if Pioline could take a four-year straight withdraw from him, but it is very likely, since Fed probably is going to clinch #1 in Basel.

World Beater
10-20-2007, 09:49 PM
He's always been one of the best players indoors, perhaps it's because the quick surface makes his (otherwise weak) serve seem bigger.

Yep. His serve is accurate and these days he seems to be going for a little more - aiming at the lines rather than hitting kick serves all the time.

Nalbandian is a terrible wind player. Environmental variables almost affect him as much as they affect safin, which is why he shows up some days and inexplicably cant hit 3 shots in a row.

Nalle is a great counterpuncher / rallier. He is one of the few that can keep up when federer starts to speed up the pace of the rallies. He can take the ball early like agassi off both sides and moves very well for a "fatty". Nalle gets a lot of stick for his conditioning yet i have not seen him become fatigued over 5 sets.

Nalbandian's ROS becomes a bigger factor indoors because of the faster conditions.

I think it was vilas who commented that nalle is like a chess player, and i agree. He has nice variations in speed and spin that allows him to hit the angles and drive the ball down the line.

l_mac
10-20-2007, 10:35 PM
Great stuff, Nalby! I couldn't watch the match because I was travelling home but I'll assume he picked up where he left off against Rafa.

Good Luck in the final :)

Farenhajt
10-20-2007, 11:21 PM
Donut Dave is well and truly back. Good to see you've silenced all the annoying fakervic fans and this is very important for the sanity of many on MTF.

Enjoy the silence while you can, it won't last for long, since neither Novak nor "annoying us" are going anywhere.

Marek.
10-20-2007, 11:57 PM
Does anyone have highlights from Dave's last two matches?

GonzoFed
10-21-2007, 12:08 AM
Enjoy the silence while you can, it won't last for long, since neither Novak nor "annoying us" are going anywhere.

You just proved his point with the answer you gave him.

Bascule
10-21-2007, 01:00 AM
You just proved his point with the answer you gave him.

No, he didn't. You just proved something sad about yourself.:angel:

azza
10-21-2007, 01:05 AM
federer give the BEATDOWN to this mug! 6-0 6-0 :(:(:( GO FEDERER KILL HIM

Corey Feldman
10-21-2007, 01:11 AM
Yep. And BTW, What is Federer going to do this year? I don't know if Pioline could take a four-year straight withdraw from him, but it is very likely, since Fed probably is going to clinch #1 in Basel.:lol: Pioline will lose it.... but ALOT of them wd from Paris now, not just Fed.
and he missed 04 and 05 with injuries.

or he could just go and tank one :devil:

NevaNadal
10-21-2007, 01:32 AM
I'm shocked. Stunned. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I decided to clean my house instead of watching this match because I thought DJoko had it in the bag. Almost put money on it too.

Congrats David :worship: :worship:

BTW, I don't think Dave is fat but the commentators on The Tennis Channel do and so I guess everyone here was right after all.

FedFan_2007
10-21-2007, 01:35 AM
Tomorrow will be the expected beatdown 6-2, 6-1.

Allure
10-21-2007, 01:40 AM
Tomorrow will be the expected beatdown 6-2, 6-1.

Fed has been rusty lately but getting beat down 6-2, 6-1? Kind of harsh isn't it? :sad:

GonzoFed
10-21-2007, 01:42 AM
No, he didn't. You just proved something sad about yourself.:angel:

:rolleyes:


Ok, i will try to be as clear as possible because it seems that's the only way you and your fellow Djokotards (not his real fans, the ones who were following him before the success became great) can get the message:

When some people gloat too much about the achievements of a player, and keep fawning over him all the time and elevate him to a God like status, where he is beyond criticism, some people would develope a strong dislike for the player. The subsequent result of this is an exacerbation of the negative qualities of this player, which we all have, since nobody is perfect. It has happened with Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic now, even though Novak has not achieved even half of what the other two have done. That's the reason for the "Fakervic" label for example. And if we add that his "tard base" behaves like they need to settle an score with everybody who dares to write something bad about them or Novak, the dislike keeps growing at an exponential rate. Farenhajt could have ignored leng jai's post, but took the bait. And the same goes for you. Finally, if you are fan of player A and player A defeats player B, that fact doesn't make you better that the fan of player B. It is a concept that should be very obvious, but due to the behaviour of a lot of posters here, it needs to be reinforced.

Metis
10-21-2007, 02:23 AM
I'm shocked. Stunned. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I decided to clean my house instead of watching this match because I thought DJoko had it in the bag. Almost put money on it too.

Congrats David :worship: :worship:

BTW, I don't think Dave is fat but the commentators on The Tennis Channel do and so I guess everyone here was right after all.


Actually it's funny that some posters who were calling Nalby all sorts of names are now saying he's not fat any more :lol:. I guess beating Rafa and Nole makes you look thinner :shrug:. Personally, I don't see any difference compared to, let's say, 6 months ago. In any case I think he looks OK, but he could get a bit fitter.

tripb19
10-21-2007, 02:33 AM
Tomorrow will be the expected beatdown 6-2, 6-1.

Yeah that's people said about David's last two matches.

Did you see his post match interview? I've never seen him this confident. There's no way this will be over in straight sets.

ReturnWinner
10-21-2007, 02:36 AM
Actually it's funny that some posters who were calling Nalby all sorts of names are now saying he's not fat any more :lol:. I guess beating Rafa and Nole makes you look thinner :shrug:. Personally, I don't see any difference compared to, let's say, 6 months ago. In any case I think he looks OK, but he could get a bit fitter.

lets be sincere ,many call him fat in a joke way , someones in a good sense -like me- some others disparagingly -his haters-. for a normal person he is not fat but sometimes he is a little overweight considering he is an elite sportsman. he has the tendency to gain a little of overweight.

the first time many started to call him like that was in wimbledon 2003 which was true , he was indeed a little overweight and got an anbdominal injury, he realized that and got slimmer and he got better results by being in a better physical condition -Usopen semis ,Montreal final and Cinci quarters

but then he got injured in his semis against roddick, since there many times he has had physical problems, came back with some good results but then he has some bad results and some injuries and so its not very easy to carry a career

RagingLamb
10-21-2007, 03:03 AM
:rolleyes:


Ok, i will try to be as clear as possible because it seems that's the only way you and your fellow Djokotards (not his real fans, the ones who were following him before the success became great) can get the message:

When some people gloat too much about the achievements of a player, and keep fawning over him all the time and elevate him to a God like status, where he is beyond criticism, some people would develope a strong dislike for the player. The subsequent result of this is an exacerbation of the negative qualities of this player, which we all have, since nobody is perfect. It has happened with Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic now, even though Novak has not achieved even half of what the other two have done. That's the reason for the "Fakervic" label for example. And if we add that his "tard base" behaves like they need to settle an score with everybody who dares to write something bad about them or Novak, the dislike keeps growing at an exponential rate. Farenhajt could have ignored leng jai's post, but took the bait. And the same goes for you. Finally, if you are fan of player A and player A defeats player B, that fact doesn't make you better that the fan of player B. It is a concept that should be very obvious, but due to the behaviour of a lot of posters here, it needs to be reinforced.

There are about 20,000 confused MTF posters reading this right now...

that should be someone's sig :yeah:

Forehander
10-21-2007, 03:45 AM
Nalbandian's backhand is far greater than Agassi's

Sunset of Age
10-21-2007, 04:00 AM
:rolleyes:


Ok, i will try to be as clear as possible because it seems that's the only way you and your fellow Djokotards (not his real fans, the ones who were following him before the success became great) can get the message:

When some people gloat too much about the achievements of a player, and keep fawning over him all the time and elevate him to a God like status, where he is beyond criticism, some people would develope a strong dislike for the player. The subsequent result of this is an exacerbation of the negative qualities of this player, which we all have, since nobody is perfect. It has happened with Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic now, even though Novak has not achieved even half of what the other two have done. That's the reason for the "Fakervic" label for example. And if we add that his "tard base" behaves like they need to settle an score with everybody who dares to write something bad about them or Novak, the dislike keeps growing at an exponential rate. Farenhajt could have ignored leng jai's post, but took the bait. And the same goes for you. Finally, if you are fan of player A and player A defeats player B, that fact doesn't make you better that the fan of player B. It is a concept that should be very obvious, but due to the behaviour of a lot of posters here, it needs to be reinforced.

Great post, SPOT ON.

Denaon
10-21-2007, 04:04 AM
David....very well done again...:D :banana:

Farenhajt
10-21-2007, 05:18 AM
:rolleyes:


Ok, i will try to be as clear as possible because it seems that's the only way you and your fellow Djokotards (not his real fans, the ones who were following him before the success became great) can get the message:

When some people gloat too much about the achievements of a player, and keep fawning over him all the time and elevate him to a God like status, where he is beyond criticism, some people would develope a strong dislike for the player. The subsequent result of this is an exacerbation of the negative qualities of this player, which we all have, since nobody is perfect. It has happened with Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic now, even though Novak has not achieved even half of what the other two have done. That's the reason for the "Fakervic" label for example. And if we add that his "tard base" behaves like they need to settle an score with everybody who dares to write something bad about them or Novak, the dislike keeps growing at an exponential rate. Farenhajt could have ignored leng jai's post, but took the bait. And the same goes for you. Finally, if you are fan of player A and player A defeats player B, that fact doesn't make you better that the fan of player B. It is a concept that should be very obvious, but due to the behaviour of a lot of posters here, it needs to be reinforced.

1) MTF is VERY VERY far from being a cradle and/or pivotal point of tennis fans worldwide, so the date of joining the forum has NOTHING to do with when did someone became Djoko's fan.

2) Fawning over the player all the time is something Fedtards, Rafatards and Fedaltards are much more experienced in, yet they don't receive behavior lessons.

3) Since fawning over the player is obviously very legitimate here, there's no reason why any group of fans wouldn't do that. For example, King Oscar's fans are very active and creative in that area.

4) No other player is being dissed based on his nationality, and that's something we all feel very strongly about, so we'll continue to be very vocal about that whenever it happens again.

5) "Fakervic" label is a mental offspring of a handful of hardline haters who generally enjoy dissing anyone and anything for dissing's sake.

6) He's #3 ranking player in the world, so that "not even half of the results" is fake. Players from 4th place onwards have not achieved half of Novak's results as well.

7) As I said, neither he nor us are going anywhere, and this argument will be continued after Nole's first slam, then after the second, then after the third... Impregnate your nerves in time.

:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

Bobby
10-21-2007, 07:15 AM
1) MTF is VERY VERY far from being a cradle and/or pivotal point of tennis fans worldwide, so the date of joining the forum has NOTHING to do with when did someone became Djoko's fan.

2) Fawning over the player all the time is something Fedtards, Rafatards and Fedaltards are much more experienced in, yet they don't receive behavior lessons.

3) Since fawning over the player is obviously very legitimate here, there's no reason why any group of fans wouldn't do that. For example, King Oscar's fans are very active and creative in that area.

4) No other player is being dissed based on his nationality, and that's something we all feel very strongly about, so we'll continue to be very vocal about that whenever it happens again.5) "Fakervic" label is a mental offspring of a handful of hardline haters who generally enjoy dissing anyone and anything for dissing's sake.

6) He's #3 ranking player in the world, so that "not even half of the results" is fake. Players from 4th place onwards have not achieved half of Novak's results as well.

7) As I said, neither he nor us are going anywhere, and this argument will be continued after Nole's first slam, then after the second, then after the third... Impregnate your nerves in time.

:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

I think that the whole "Djokovic is being dissed based on his nationality" is only in your head. Because I sure haven't seen people saying nasty things about Serbia here. Most of the people at MTF know a lot about tennis and they don't give a damn about nationality, it's the tennis that counts.

He is called Fakervic because he takes a lot of injury time outs when he clearly is not injured. Classy players never do/did something like that. Feel free to support Djokovic, but admit that he uses dirty tricks.

Djokovic hasn't won that much compared to Nadal and Federer. He has some big titles, but he's nowhere near to being a GS winner.

Rogiman
10-21-2007, 07:27 AM
Enjoy the silence while you can, it won't last for long, since neither Novak nor "annoying us" are going anywhere. don't mind Novak staying, but could you please leave (taking your nationalism/fascism with you)?

Allez
10-21-2007, 07:52 AM
Nalbandian is sick :worship: :scared: :worship:

Farenhajt
10-21-2007, 07:53 AM
I think that the whole "Djokovic is being dissed based on his nationality" is only in your head. Because I sure haven't seen people saying nasty things about Serbia here.

Read more thoroughly, or try to be faster before mods delete such crap (which they do fairly often, but not always).

He is called Fakervic because he takes a lot of injury time outs when he clearly is not injured... admit that he uses dirty tricks.

Obviously, general MTF philosophy is "either play till you drop dead, or otherwise retire". There's absolutely no point in taking alloted 3 mins if your injury or condition is so severe you're going to retire after a few games following the intervention (you may as well do that immediately, since measly bandaging or massage or a pill won't do enough good anyway). The point of time outs IS to prevent further damage WHEN and IF it's preventable. Djokovic does exactly that, and by doing so doesn't break any ATP rules, so there's nothing to admit.

don't mind Novak staying, but could you please leave (taking your nationalism/fascism with you)?

I can't do that, since there's no nationalism/fascism in my posts. Sorry.

Bobby
10-21-2007, 08:19 AM
Read more thoroughly, or try to be faster before mods delete such crap (which they do fairly often, but not always).



Obviously, general MTF philosophy is "either play till you drop dead, or otherwise retire". There's absolutely no point in taking alloted 3 mins if your injury or condition is so severe you're going to retire after a few games following the intervention (you may as well do that immediately, since measly bandaging or massage or a pill won't do enough good anyway). The point of time outs IS to prevent further damage WHEN and IF it's preventable. Djokovic does exactly that, and by doing so doesn't break any ATP rules, so there's nothing to admit.



I can't do that, since there's no nationalism/fascism in my posts. Sorry.

Right, I suppose I should read more thoroughly. The problem is that there are other things to do than just read the MTF. My apologies, maybe I haven't examined every single post of every single thread.

Yes, the point of time out is to prevent further damage. But that's not how your precious boy sees it. He abuses the rule by taking time outs to have a break when the opponent is playing well. He is not breaking any rules, but he is acting like an idiot. 15 years ago players only took injury time outs when there actually was an injury. Now it's just a way to disturb the opponent. Djokovic is an above average player, but don't expect people to respect him if he continues acting like an idiot.

Farenhajt
10-21-2007, 08:34 AM
He abuses the rule by taking time outs to have a break when the opponent is playing well.

Do substantiate such a claim by presenting stats as to what was the state of a match prior to each Djokovic's timeout. You might discover you're wrong by a mile. (Four freshest examples: he took the timeout against Ancic after WINNING the first set; he didn't take the timeout against Verdasco, Ferrero and Nalbandian after LOSING first, second and first set respectively.)

Rumour
10-21-2007, 09:30 AM
Too bad I missed this match, even though I at least didn't have to witness Djokovic losing :awww: Nalby's resurgence continues to gather pace but, while it increases the chances of a good final, I hope it's slowed down today by Fed :devil:

vincayou
10-21-2007, 12:53 PM
Well done Fat Dave for taking down Fakovic. :yeah:

ezekiel
10-21-2007, 01:18 PM
Right, I suppose I should read more thoroughly. The problem is that there are other things to do than just read the MTF. My apologies, maybe I haven't examined every single post of every single thread.

Yes, the point of time out is to prevent further damage. But that's not how your precious boy sees it. He abuses the rule by taking time outs to have a break when the opponent is playing well. He is not breaking any rules, but he is acting like an idiot. 15 years ago players only took injury time outs when there actually was an injury. Now it's just a way to disturb the opponent. Djokovic is an above average player, but don't expect people to respect him if he continues acting like an idiot.

time out are meant to take a break due to fatigue and/or injury and/or disrupt rhythm, that's how it is in every sport and I see no reason why it shouldn't be that way in tennis too . It shouldn't be an issue for professionals.
But even that is not an issue with Nole. his breaks almost always come when he is leading so all the fuss and noise is just h8rs trying to undermine him :wavey:

l_mac
10-21-2007, 01:40 PM
2) Fawning over the player all the time is something Fedtards, Rafatards and Fedaltards are much more experienced in, yet they don't receive behavior lessons.

:haha: :haha: Are you kidding? It's hard to tell with you. Djokovic and his tards are not singled out for any special treatment.

Bascule
10-21-2007, 03:05 PM
:rolleyes:


Ok, i will try to be as clear as possible because it seems that's the only way you and your fellow Djokotards (not his real fans, the ones who were following him before the success became great) can get the message:

When some people gloat too much about the achievements of a player, and keep fawning over him all the time and elevate him to a God like status, where he is beyond criticism, some people would develope a strong dislike for the player. The subsequent result of this is an exacerbation of the negative qualities of this player, which we all have, since nobody is perfect. It has happened with Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic now, even though Novak has not achieved even half of what the other two have done. That's the reason for the "Fakervic" label for example. And if we add that his "tard base" behaves like they need to settle an score with everybody who dares to write something bad about them or Novak, the dislike keeps growing at an exponential rate. Farenhajt could have ignored leng jai's post, but took the bait. And the same goes for you. Finally, if you are fan of player A and player A defeats player B, that fact doesn't make you better that the fan of player B. It is a concept that should be very obvious, but due to the behaviour of a lot of posters here, it needs to be reinforced.

Well, I just want to see some objectivity in your post, that's all. Where have you been, when yesterday morning one of those guys insulted all serbian nation calling us "bloodthirsty cowards" who came to independence in bloody and nasty way, or something like that. It's in thread: Novak def Ancic, and that's the reason why some people should be displaced from this forum. But, with this post it looks that you support them (although I'm not sure). That's all about my reaction. And because of that it's opened new thread on non-tennis part (serbian history), when you can see some reactions, because on this thread before some posts were deleted.
And, when you said: 'if you are fan of player A and player A defeats player B, that fact doesn't make you better that the fan of player B', it's default. It doesn't have to do anything with me. It's like I said: 2+2=4. And now I expect some fingers for that.;)
I don't mind about what you think about Nole, it's your opinion. But, it's pretty borring and annoying reading all over again the same old posts full of hate. But, to insult people here on the base of nationalism or fascism (+ without knowing anything about that) is serious.:wavey:

Also for Rogimen who said last week "Take a cover before the Serbs come to take over the site." And he's calling them nationalists now.:rolleyes:

Bobby, it's ok.:wavey:

ezekiel
10-21-2007, 05:47 PM
don't mind Novak staying, but could you please leave (taking your nationalism/fascism with you)?

Where do you get off calling someone let alone Fahrenhajt a fascist or even nationalist :eek:

Fascist/nazi/hitler is a dead terminology by about 60 years and is only used nowadays for propaganda purposes of demonization by people in power and for unjustified wars so whenever someone insiniuates that they have already lost any point and argument they may have had. Just because you are jewish and/or zionist I presume doesn't give you any rights to call people such heinous names , certainly not by self righteous indignation (if a jew calls you a fascist it must be true, right :rolleyes: ?

Notwithstanding in this case it's completelly baseless although Fahrenhajt is fairly new poster I have grown to appreciate him as he seems to know what he is talking about without being tedious and is a loyal Nole fan by all accounts so I for one have no problem with him and I have been around way before Nole has become a player he is today or will become or before you ever heard about him, in fact Nole was the reason I joined here after seeing bits of him against Coria at RG 05 as I was over on WTAW and didn't bother coming here before

It's ridiculous for you to call him nationalist in the negative sense certainly, not because you throw labels around but because you have no argument for it. Cheering for someone whom you identify with and defending him doesn't make you anything but a fan. On the other hand "nationalistic" means blind loyalty and deliberate denigration and undermining of others . If you have other definition of "natioalistic" please say it before I assume any further

ezekiel
10-21-2007, 09:27 PM
BTW Djokovic's parents have no job? They are following every tournament of his, which is annoying.

so you hate him through his parents and speaking of jobs , I think you need one or at least a better one and that way you will post less

R.Federer
10-21-2007, 10:43 PM
time out are meant to take a break due to fatigue and/or injury and/or disrupt rhythm, that's how it is in every sport and I see no reason why it shouldn't be that way in tennis too . It shouldn't be an issue for professionals.
But even that is not an issue with Nole. his breaks almost always come when he is leading so all the fuss and noise is just h8rs trying to undermine him :wavey:
Hah, so you are actually admitting that regardless of whether he takes them whether he is leading or not, he takes them because he wants to disrupt rhythm or due to being tired??
That's the whole problem, don't you understand? That is gamesmanship. It is not illegal obviously, because he would have been thrown out of a dozen matches, but it is terribly immature and unprofessional. That behavior is better suited to the Challenger tour. :wavey:

Farenhajt
10-22-2007, 12:06 AM
It is not illegal obviously, because he would have been thrown out of a dozen matches, but it is terribly immature and unprofessional.

Then what's immature and unprofessional are ATP rules and not any particular player. The use of whatever is permitted by the rules can't be considered immature and unprofessional. (By that criterion, you might say that any country that uses its power of veto in Security Council is acting immature and unprofessional since it's disrupting "opponents" from acting on their own interests. But, no matter how much you might dislike such a situation in UN, it's completely legal, so all you've got left is some steaming in powerless rage - which is OK too as long as you recognize that as your personal opinion and emotional state and not as an essential unfairness of the party in question.)

LocoPorElTenis
10-22-2007, 12:14 AM
Hah, so you are actually admitting that regardless of whether he takes them whether he is leading or not, he takes them because he wants to disrupt rhythm or due to being tired??
That's the whole problem, don't you understand? That is gamesmanship. It is not illegal obviously, because he would have been thrown out of a dozen matches, but it is terribly immature and unprofessional. That behavior is better suited to the Challenger tour. :wavey:

Does anyone have the actual rules on timeouts? I believe it is NOT allowed to take a medical timeout for any reasons other than medical issues (medical issues include exhaustion but not normal tiredness from the match - that's what normal rest periods are for). The problem is that it's impossible to know whether a player has a real medical issue or is faking, but I'm quite sure the rules spell quite clearly that taking a medical timeout to e.g. break the opponent's rythm is NOT allowed.

Aloimeh
10-22-2007, 12:49 AM
Although I think sometimes Djokovic's timeouts have been questionable, I think that all those who scream "cheat" should actually analyze when he takes the timeouts. Very frequently he has taken them while the momentum was on his side, e.g. after winning a succession of games or even a set. By no means are the timeouts restricted to when he's losing. So the notion that they are a core tactic for disrupting the opponent's rhythm and that these alleged tactics help him win matches, is pretty unsupportable.

The ball-bouncing is totally within the rules and cannot be pinpointed as "gamesmanship" in any way, and if the player across the net cannot "focus" because there were 25 bounces as opposed to 5 bounces then they don't belong in professional tennis. The idiosyncrasies of the opponent, within limits, are no excuse for a professional losing a match. And in all honesty, it isn't the professionals who are complaining so much as the idiotic fans.

trixtah
10-22-2007, 01:04 AM
Although I think sometimes Djokovic's timeouts have been questionable, I think that all those who scream "cheat" should actually analyze when he takes the timeouts. Very frequently he has taken them while the momentum was on his side, e.g. after winning a succession of games or even a set. By no means are the timeouts restricted to when he's losing. So the notion that they are a core tactic for disrupting the opponent's rhythm and that these alleged tactics help him win matches, is pretty unsupportable.

The ball-bouncing is totally within the rules and cannot be pinpointed as "gamesmanship" in any way, and if the player across the net cannot "focus" because there were 25 bounces as opposed to 5 bounces then they don't belong in professional tennis. The idiosyncrasies of the opponent, within limits, are no excuse for a professional losing a match. And in all honesty, it isn't the professionals who are complaining so much as the idiotic fans.

Seriously. And even Carlos Moya said it wasn't annoying at all--the only reason it was annoying was because "you knew a huge serve was coming."

ezekiel
10-22-2007, 01:14 PM
Hah, so you are actually admitting that regardless of whether he takes them whether he is leading or not, he takes them because he wants to disrupt rhythm or due to being tired??That's the whole problem, don't you understand? That is gamesmanship. It is not illegal obviously, because he would have been thrown out of a dozen matches, but it is terribly immature and unprofessional. That behavior is better suited to the Challenger tour. :wavey:

Clearly you are jumping to negative conclusions . I said that taking timeouts in other sports is meant for recuperating and changing rhythm. It's sport and in every sport you have a change or rhythm otherwise it's boring. In tennis there are no timeouts, thus the matches are mostly monotonous and boring. In other words , it's problematic that there are no timeouts.

But that is slightly unrelated to Nole and his injury timeout are random , justifiable, mostly when he is in winning position and happen only because he is so young and his body hasn't caught up completelly with his talent.

Rogiman
10-22-2007, 01:25 PM
Clearly you are jumping to negative conclusions . I said that taking timeouts in other sports is meant for recuperating and changing rhythm. It's sport and in every sport you have a change or rhythm otherwise it's boring. In tennis there are no timeouts, thus the matches are mostly monotonous and boring. In other words , it's problematic that there are no timeouts.

But that is slightly unrelated to Nole and his injury timeout are random , justifiable, mostly when he is in winning position and happen only because he is so young and his body hasn't caught up completelly with his talent.This confirms my suspicions.

You're not a tennis fan, you're a player fan.

Bascule
10-22-2007, 02:00 PM
don't mind Novak staying, but could you please leave (taking your nationalism/fascism with you)?

This confirms my suspicions, too.
You don't like much tennis, but to insult people.
What is wrong being player's fan? Does it hurt you?
You didn't read last page and answered to few posts.

Farenhajt
10-22-2007, 03:35 PM
This confirms my suspicions.

You're not a tennis fan, you're a player fan.

You, on the other hand, being Federer's bitch, are PURE tennis fan and not a player fan, since Roger is divine personification of Tennis who honored us by coming down to earth to show us the way, yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah... :retard:

(BTW, do you ever mix up "Roger's tennis" with "Roger's pennis"?)

Rogiman
10-22-2007, 04:15 PM
You, on the other hand, being Federer's bitch, are PURE tennis fan and not a player fan, since Roger is divine personification of Tennis who honored us by coming down to earth to show us the way, yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah... :retard:

(BTW, do you ever mix up "Roger's tennis" with "Roger's pennis"?)You'll have a very difficult time finding a post that backs you up.

mangoes
10-22-2007, 04:23 PM
This confirms my suspicions.

You're not a tennis fan, you're a player fan.

That's more than obvious....

ExpectedWinner
10-22-2007, 04:31 PM
You, on the other hand, being Federer's bitch, are PURE tennis fan and not a player fan, since Roger is divine personification of Tennis who honored us by coming down to earth to show us the way, yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah... :retard:



I had no idea that Rogiman's other account is mirkalot.

ezekiel
10-22-2007, 04:41 PM
This confirms my suspicions.

You're not a tennis fan, you're a player fan.

not a credible assertion coming from a Fedtard, why don't you just apologise to Fahrenhajt for calling him fascist/nationalist and be done with it :shrug:

Bobby
10-22-2007, 05:11 PM
This confirms my suspicions, too.
You don't like much tennis, but to insult people.
What is wrong being player's fan? Does it hurt you?
You didn't read last page and answered to few posts.

Nothing wrong with being a fan of a player. But there are some fans here (some are Djokovic fans) who refuse to see nothing wrong with any of Djokovic's actions. Some of those people almost get angry if someone says anything negative about Djokovic.

Rogiman
10-22-2007, 06:38 PM
not a credible assertion coming from a FedtardNot a credible assertion coming from someone who's not even aware of the structure of TMC and doesn't care about the game and its rules :lol:

When you care to comment about anything not Novak-related call me...
Novak is a decent player who'll win Grand Slams and become world #1 one day, but you're not him, it seems you're confused a little bit.

'till then enjoy with your new friends, the Serbian Junta.
Together you've formed the most hideous fan-base of any active player, and that's quite an achievement :lol:

World Beater
10-22-2007, 06:41 PM
Not a credible assertion coming from someone who's not even aware of the structure of TMC and doesn't care about the game and its rules :lol:

When you care to comment about anything not Novak-related call me...
Novak is a decent player who'll win Grand Slams and become world #1 one day, but you're not him, it seems you're confused a little bit.

'till then enjoy with your new friends, the Serbian Junta.
Together you've formed the most hideous fan-base of any active player, and that's quite an achievement :lol:

:lol: owned.

mangoes
10-22-2007, 06:43 PM
Not a credible assertion coming from someone who's not even aware of the structure of TMC and doesn't care about the game and its rules :lol:
When you care to comment about anything not Novak-related call me...
Novak is a decent player who'll win Grand Slams and become world #1 one day, but you're not him, it seems you're confused a little bit.

'till then enjoy with your new friends, the Serbian Junta.
Together you've formed the most hideous fan-base of any active player, and that's quite an achievement :lol:

:clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:

bokehlicious
10-22-2007, 06:45 PM
'till then enjoy with your new friends, the Serbian Junta.
Together you've formed the most hideous fan-base of any active player, and that's quite an achievement :lol:

True, hardcore Rafatards are pale beside them...

ExpectedWinner
10-22-2007, 07:08 PM
(BTW, do you ever mix up "Roger's tennis" with "Roger's pennis"?)

What do you mean? Penni or pennis is the former Finnish currency.

ezekiel
10-22-2007, 07:47 PM
Not a credible assertion coming from someone who's not even aware of the structure of TMC and doesn't care about the game and its rules :lol:

If I knew more about tennis , people would be paying me . I am not afraid to ask questions since I don't follow all the tournaments as I have a life.


When you care to comment about anything not Novak-related call me...
Novak is a decent player who'll win Grand Slams and become world #1 one day, but you're not him, it seems you're confused a little bit.

Why does Nole threaten you and scare you so much?
It's times like this I wonder that opposing fans fear him more than I cheer him which can only mean they see him as better player than I imagine.

You behave like a little kid and Nole and his fans are coming to steal your toys or something.


'till then enjoy with your new friends, the Serbian Junta.
Together you've formed the most hideous fan-base of any active player, and that's quite an achievement :lol:

If you call me or us fascist, junta and whatever else just out of spite you bet your ass I will be here. If you want to be taken seriously, you need to drop name calling and deal with issues respectfully or just mind your own business :wavey:

ezekiel
10-22-2007, 07:53 PM
Although I think sometimes Djokovic's timeouts have been questionable, I think that all those who scream "cheat" should actually analyze when he takes the timeouts. Very frequently he has taken them while the momentum was on his side, e.g. after winning a succession of games or even a set. By no means are the timeouts restricted to when he's losing. So the notion that they are a core tactic for disrupting the opponent's rhythm and that these alleged tactics help him win matches, is pretty unsupportable.

The ball-bouncing is totally within the rules and cannot be pinpointed as "gamesmanship" in any way, and if the player across the net cannot "focus" because there were 25 bounces as opposed to 5 bounces then they don't belong in professional tennis. The idiosyncrasies of the opponent, within limits, are no excuse for a professional losing a match. And in all honesty, it isn't the professionals who are complaining so much as the idiotic fans.


of course, opposinng fans and haters are just latching on to anything and making it big and twisting it around , timeouts , his parents, whatever.

MatchFederer
10-22-2007, 08:20 PM
ezekiel is one of the finest posters on this board... If only half of you numbskulls could see this. :shrug:

Matrix
10-22-2007, 09:11 PM
True, hardcore Rafatards are pale beside them...

Far from the truth. I'm not going to discuss who is better/worst, regarding No1&2 tards.
But regarding all the hateness and racial insults (coming mostly from Fedtards, to be honest), it is quite fair to say that in big majority, Djokovic fans didn't start it. Quite opposite. I can explain that hysterical insults with the fact that many of the most noisy and trash talking posters does not have much of a life that can supersede this virtual, no name - no face existence. Psychologically, all the identifacion and idolatry are developing in persons who doesn't have/wanted to have some of the qualities that their idols possessed. Not to mention wannabe successfull, famous, etc.

Without the slightest piece of sarcasm, I feel pity for them. All of the above mentioned people will come with: "But, I am a tennis fun!!!".

Sorry, there is no big number of them here. And the big questions that everyone of this so called "tennis fans" that posting tons of useless threads & posts will have to ask themselves, is:

"Do I have a life outside of this?"

Grow up, silly boys/girls.

Bascule
10-22-2007, 09:45 PM
Nothing wrong with being a fan of a player. But there are some fans here (some are Djokovic fans) who refuse to see nothing wrong with any of Djokovic's actions. Some of those people almost get angry if someone says anything negative about Djokovic.

well, hehe, right, if you're from helsinki, some things don't have to bother you. but, you may ask yourself where is sawan or glenm these days on GM :devil: . and, you can see, we are still here. beeing djokofan on GM lately is very hard, but even beeing from serbia is harder. because, some people act too primitive and insulting, specially on the national base. well, that's my reason for not critisizing nole much on this board - there's no point to talk with haters, but with normal guys. hehe, one of the mods just told to new djokofan to take care on GM, cause there are some mean people, but out of GM they are ok. HEHE, seems true. i like a lot of other players too, but i hate none of them. i don't like tools and trolls. i can guarantee it would be different when some of haters would,ve calm down (:confused: ).
I'll start first: hi, Boby, you're just goood (but didn't read recommended posts):wavey:
Hi, everyone else, peace brothers! (haha, although i hate this hippy quote):wavey: