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Gaudio defeats Hewitt 6-3 6-2 6-2

silverwhite
06-02-2004, 12:27 PM
Lleyton... :sad:

Lady
06-02-2004, 12:32 PM
Well when Lleyton put that easy volley in the net :eek:

The only thing that could stop Gaudio from winning since that point is choking, but Lleyton helped him out with 2 missed returns ;)

Lucie
06-02-2004, 12:32 PM
hewitt played so badly, i thought he would fight a lot harder, but well done to gaudio!

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-02-2004, 12:34 PM
I am sad for Lleyton too--but so proud!!!!!! What a pleasant run for him. I hope he is satisfied!

As for Gaudio... ugh! 3 guys I love were left in his section at the start of day, now two!!! I really hope Guga or David can dispose of him in semis!

WyveN
06-02-2004, 12:38 PM
Gaudio finally did what he should have done in the 2 previous encounters on clay against Lleyton - thrash him in straight sets.
Difference is that Gaudio didnt choke today, even after Hewitt grabbed one of the breaks back in the 3rd set Gaston kept his belief up and closed out the match. GWH must be thrilled.

As for Hewitt, good solid clay season, overall he should be very happy with his clay performance and I would say he reached his goals, however I didn't see any indication that Hewitt will ever be a threat to win RG.

CmonAussie
06-02-2004, 12:38 PM
One of Hewitt's most disappointing efforts-> reminds me of the Hamburg TMS SF where he didn't show much fight against Federer...

*No doubt Gaudio deserved this win & was playing some awesome tennis~ if he keeps that up in SF/Final he may even go all the way!!!!

@@ The thing which got me so depressed was Hewitt hiting 43-UE's in a short match; those kind of stats don't appear to often for Lleyton~ i can't recall any other matches where he stuffed up so much when it mattered. In the 3rd set 5-games went to DEUCE->> but everytime Gaudio came through (helped partially through Hewitt's DF's,missed volleys & returns long...
talk about handing the match on a platter(@-@)>_<.

WyveN
06-02-2004, 12:42 PM
@@ The thing which got me so depressed was Hewitt hiting 43-UE's in a short match; those kind of stats don't appear to often for Lleyton~ i can't recall any other matches where he stuffed up so much when it mattered.
Cant recall any matches? try 2 days ago.

didnt hear much complaining when Hewitt hit 43 unforced errors against Malisse in 3 sets, all I could hear was that Guga was in trouble

RogiFan88
06-02-2004, 12:45 PM
felicitaciones, Gaston!

why didn't Lleyton play well today??? where is his fighting spirit?

CmonAussie
06-02-2004, 12:45 PM
Cant recall any matches? try 2 days ago.

didnt hear much complaining when Hewitt hit 43 unforced errors against Malisse in 3 sets, all I could hear was that Guga was in trouble
:worship:
Once again you are correct WyveN; I am just depressed :sad: :sad: !

WyveN
06-02-2004, 12:47 PM
:worship:
Once again you are correct WyveN; I am just depressed :sad: :sad: !

Cheer up, Hewitt did better then last year and I bet met the goals that he set out at the start of the clay season. Plus his back in the top 10 ranking wise.

WyveN
06-02-2004, 12:48 PM
The above doesn't apply if your depressed because you wont see me doing the harbour bridge run in a dress ;)

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-02-2004, 12:50 PM
CMon Aussie, don't be depressed--be proud. Lleyton did real well in the grand scheme of things. :)

star
06-02-2004, 12:50 PM
You are saved from the dress, but I still have it ready for you. :)

CmonAussie
06-02-2004, 12:55 PM
Cheer up, Hewitt did better then last year and I bet met the goals that he set out at the start of the clay season. Plus his back in the top 10 ranking wise.

Oh yeah Lleyton had a good tournament until today~~ probably the victory over Verkerk pleased me the most ;) .. I'm not sure about his goals; because he came into the tournament with no expectations & just wanted to "take it one match at a time"(as the cliche goes). Anyway i genuinly thought he had a good shot this year; once he made it to QF i'm sure it crossed his mind that the RG Title was a possibility (considering he had beaten all but Coria on Clay before).
Anyway today's defeat to Gaston was a reality check somewhat :sad: !

Hope Lleyton can win Queens next week to find his feet on Grass again in a hurry-->> of course Federer is the big favourite a Wimbledon but I think Hewitt is capable of big things there once more (provided he doesn't meet a 200cm Qualifier in Rd1).

Chloe le Bopper
06-02-2004, 01:26 PM
Thank you Gaston! If only because this will successfully kill any more "Hewitt to win Roland garros?" threads from being formed. They show up EVERY year, and you would think.... oh, nevermind. As WyveN said, this was a good showing for Hewitt.

Chloe le Bopper
06-02-2004, 01:28 PM
once he made it to QF i'm sure it crossed his mind that the RG Title was a possibility (considering he had beaten all but Coria on Clay before).

It was never a realistic possibility, but I suppose you realize that now...

By the way, he only ever beat Gaudio on clay because... come on, you know why! Even if you don't want to admit it, you know! And his win over Nalbandian was back in 2002, so, uh, whatever ;)

His win over Guga was very nice though ;):D

Horatio Caine
06-02-2004, 02:19 PM
Hope Lleyton can win Queens next week to find his feet on Grass again in a hurry-->> of course Federer is the big favourite a Wimbledon but I think Hewitt is capable of big things there once more (provided he doesn't meet a 200cm Qualifier in Rd1).

:haha: yeah! That would be incredibly unfortunate if he drew Karlovic again! Does it make you feel any better that Alex Bogdanovic beat him 6/7 7/6 7/6 the week before Queen's last year?! :devil: :)

BaselineSmash
06-02-2004, 02:27 PM
:haha: yeah! That would be incredibly unfortunate if he drew Karlovic again! Does it make you feel any better that Alex Bogdanovic beat him 6/7 7/6 7/6 the week before Queen's last year?! :devil: :)

Yeah, I noted the relationship between those results last year also. It had me thinking about how bright Bogdanovic's future could be, then I saw him against Sargsian... :rolleyes:

Horatio Caine
06-02-2004, 02:27 PM
Yeah, I noted the relationship between those results last year also. It had me thinking about how bright Bogdanovic's future could be, then I saw him against Sargsian... :rolleyes:

:eek: Don't talk about that...! :)

FanOfHewitt
06-02-2004, 02:33 PM
I didn't see the match but I taped it and i'll watch it tomorrow. I am shocked with the one sided scoreline. What a whipping!

On the positive side, Hewitt is crawling back up the rankings, and doing it through playing on his least favourite surface. Its up and up from here with a return to more familiar territory, grass and hardcourt. Hardly anything to defend for the rest of the year other than the US Open quarters. I think with a bit of luck he can get back into the top 5 by years end.

Auscon
06-02-2004, 02:52 PM
a damn shame, but Gaudio was pretty awesome out there.....as the commentators said, it just got to the point where Lleytons only chance may come through a high loss of blood on Gaudio's side :), but putting that sitter into the net in the 3rd put a traditional hewitt fightback out of the question

Was the first match I've gotten the chance to see in full (dont have pay tv) for the tournament...went around to a mates place to watch it on a bigscreen

But I'd been sitting at my computer for every hewitt match (and others) watching the scores tick over on the rg website and listening to the radio when they were covering it.....I think I was supposed to be doing uni work, but I got too caught up in the matches :)

Really pleased with how Lleytons started the season....heres hoping he can go two further at Wimbledon (two further than the qtr at the french, not two further than last years wimbledon :) )

CooCooCachoo
06-02-2004, 03:13 PM
It's great for Gaston.. :) No choking in Roland Garros.. Guess Parisian lollies don't appeal to Gaston!

Havok
06-02-2004, 03:43 PM
Too bad Gaudio is such a choker, he can really dominate the clay court season. Hewitt had a good run, but you would think that Lleyton would be able to fight a little bit more. And another thing, why are people extremely dumb while charging the net? When you charge the net on clay, you know your opponent will smack the ball back down the line but they always leave the dtl alley wide open for the pass. They stand there like :retard: in the middle of the court. It would be awesome if Gaudio can take out Nalbandian now, imo he's a more capable clay court player than Nalbandian is, and a Gaudio/Coria match will be a much better match-up of Argentinians than Coria/Nalbandian

WyveN
06-02-2004, 10:46 PM
Hardly anything to defend for the rest of the year other than the US Open quarters. I think with a bit of luck he can get back into the top 5 by years end.

Hewitt hasn't beaten anyone in the top 30 for around 4 months (except Verkerk but I bet he never gets into top 30 again now that his FO points are of).

Jinx
06-02-2004, 10:46 PM
What Gaudio did was awesome!!!! :bigclap: I saw this match and i couldnt believe it....poor Lleyton.....Gaudio simply destroys him!! :eek: It was a BIG lesson of tennis..................
There were two things I couldnt believe when i was watching the match:

_The fact that Hewwit used to be number one :rolleyes:
_The fact that Guadio isn´t number one :cool:

But i know Gaudios head is not a number ones head (Corias or Nalbandian heads are), and sometimes he can play like a star, and sometimes he plays like he doesnt care.......... :cuckoo:

Come on Gaudio!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you always play like you did today........................you could be number ONE!!!! (well, two, number one ould still be coria :rolleyes: )

Lisbeth
06-02-2004, 11:33 PM
I would like to heartily congratulate Gaudio on playing an excellent match and also on exhibiting good sportsmanship. He may have a new fan in me despite who he beat ;)

Watching that match, and that backhand in particular, I find it very hard to understand why he is not top 10 at least. I know the answer is probably something about consistency, but he displayed no signs of any problem with that last night. His game would seem to translate to other surfaces so I will be watching him with interest for the rest of the year!

Oh, and can I just add that I'm really proud of Lleyton for making it to the Quarter Finals! He has nothing to be ashamed of :)

Lisbeth
06-02-2004, 11:41 PM
hewitt played so badly, i thought he would fight a lot harder, but well done to gaudio!

Actually I don't particularly think he did play badly. He did make a few silly mistakes, but overall he played quite well and tried to mix things up. However, on the day (and the surface) he was simply outplayed and there was nothing he could answer with. That happens sometimes (I'm remembering at least 2 Wimbledon matches last year involving Federer!).

Lestat
06-02-2004, 11:42 PM
Well done gasty :worship:
Bad luck for leyton (one of my favorites), now let´s work for the grass season :worship: :D

Neely
06-02-2004, 11:54 PM
I find it very hard to understand why he is not top 10 at least.
Hi Number1Kim, :wavey:

well... IMO, Gaudio is the worst Argentinian player on all surfaces except clay.

Cañas:
4th round in Wimbledon, final and semifinal in S'Hertogenbosch on grass ---> this guy can play on grass!!!
Canada TMS title, Chennai title, very good seasons on hardcourt in 2001 and 2002, beating Henman on hardcourt this year at the Ausralian Open after coming back from a long injury lay-off ---> he can play on hardcourt!

Nalbandian:
Final appearance and 4th round in Wimbledon ---> can play on grass
Title on carpet in Basel, another run to the final on carpet in Basel --> can play on carpet and indoor
I would say very good hardcourt player, semifinal in US Open last year, Canada TMS final, good record on hardcourts... the big title is missing, but it's obvious that he can play on hardcourt

Coria:
Already won a title on carpet indoor.
Quarterfinal in Indian Wells, Final appearance in Miami.
He is doing really well on hardcourt also, IMO only a matter of time until he will win his first hardcourt title.

Mónaco:
already some good results on hardcourt on the challenger tour
Third round recently in Miami with a few good results, I liked that!
I think he will develop to an at least mediocre player on faster courts, too.

Chela:
hardly ever played on grass or indoor, but on hardcourt he is quite a solid player winning about 60% of his matches. No ATP titles on hardcourt yet, but he showed he can play on hardcourt with a few good records in 2002 and 2003.

Zabaleta:
okay, nothing special, I would say he is the second worse Argentine on hardcourt...

as you see, except Zabaleta almost every Argentine can play on faster courts and on hardcourt at least with average results, if not even outstanding (e.g. Cañas, Nalbandian...)

and who is remaining? YES, exactly... it's Gaudio!... okay, he had a good win as he has beaten Ferrero on hardcourt last year, but the rest is quite poor and nothing mentionable and he has yet to go far in a tournament on hardcourt.

Gaudio is a TOP player on clay, but so far he suck(ed)s on hardcourt, indoor, carpet and grass... and that's the reason why he can't establish yet among the Top10.

Lisbeth
06-02-2004, 11:58 PM
:wavey: Neely!

Thanks for the interesting analysis. Makes sense. It's funny though, looking at Gaudio's game, at least as he played yesterday, I can't see why he can't play well on other surfaces. Possibly a confidence thing?

WyveN
06-02-2004, 11:58 PM
Gaudio is a TOP player on clay, but so far he suck(ed)s on hardcourt, indoor, carpet and grass... and that's the reason why he can't establish yet among the Top10.

thanks for the stats, and being pretty poor on other surfaces prevents Gaudio from maximising his points in the clay season as he goes into it unseeded and can end up with shocking draws (e.g Hamburg), this great FO will help him though and might even give him confidence on hardcourts.

Lisbeth
06-03-2004, 12:01 AM
That's an excellent point about how rankings can affect a player's season. Just one reason I'm pleased to see Lleyton back in the top 10! Though of course, top 8 is the real goal as far as seedings go.

Neely
06-03-2004, 12:13 AM
sure it's crap if you're not often enough seeded and draw the big names in round 1 or 2 early :rolleyes:
as WyveN mentioned he got screwed by a bad draw in Hamburg and should have done better if he was seeded... we don't know, but I think he would.

Also I think that his topspin game is not as effective on hardcourt as on clay. I watched Cañas recently in Miami against Haas and he has the ability to hit the ball straight and going for the winners. He also did it with Henman in AO this year. Not only topspin, but also straight balls.
And if you watch Nalbandian's style, just take today's match against Guga as an example, I think it's clearly visable that Nalbandian can also go for the winner hitting the ball straight.
But Gaudio is mainly topspin on forehand and backhand what is very dangerous on clay, but on hardcourt he could need some plain strokes, too.

I'm not always a good analyizer, but that's my 2 cents on why Gaudio isn't so successful on hardcourt so far.

But I will watch the following months how he is doing on hardcourt, maybe he gets the needed confidence boost that he can play better on every court.

Smankyou
06-03-2004, 03:41 AM
That was painful match to watch. Gaudio played like a gem (that backhand is to die for) and deserved to win... but we spent the entire third set waiting for him to choke. Fortunately, he didn't. Having said that, it was a brilliant run by lleyton. Surpassed my expectations.

Was the first match I've gotten the chance to see in full (dont have pay tv) for the tournament...

Same. *shakes fist at free to air* People wanted to know what the commotion was about, and eventually crowded around the hotel lobby tv.

Experimentee
06-03-2004, 04:18 AM
Gaston :bounce: :woohoo:
I thought he would win, but its amazing he didnt choke serving out the match!
Could this be the end of his choking problems? I think he really turned things around in the win against Hewitt last week, where he choked badly but recovered from his choke to win! Maybe that gave him confidence. I hope so.
I really want Gaudio to win this now. I hope his mental side will hold up in the semi/final.

About other surfaces, true he hasnt had as good results on them as clay, but I've seen him play a few times on rebound ace and hardcourt, hes not that bad on it. A lot of the time he seems to draw top players early and gives them a good fight all the time. He beat Ferrero on hard last year, who went on to make the US Open final later, and earlier this year he thrashed Robredo, who'd been in good form on rebound ace. I remember he stretched Guga a few years ago too.

Lalitha
06-03-2004, 04:22 AM
Gaston!!! expecting a Coria - Gaston Finals.

We can't rule out anybody because it is the semi-final stages of a grandslam. But hopefully we get see some interesting matches rather than straight set victories.

Action Jackson
06-03-2004, 04:24 AM
:worship:
Once again you are correct WyveN; I am just depressed :sad: :sad: !

It happens man and unfortunately for your guy, he was comprehensively outplayed and he had no help from Gaudio unlike previous occasions.

Action Jackson
06-03-2004, 04:30 AM
:worship: :worship: Gaudio

That was a great performance, dominating with that artistic backhand, outstanding length, varying the speed and the spin on the groundstrokes and handling the windy conditions so much better than Hewitt.

Hewitt had his first true test and failed, but he was outplayed by Gaudio pure and simple and no amount of excuses will say otherwise.

The tactics were great serving and volleying at surprise moments and serving out 2 sets to love was scary. He has the smile on his face and he is in the mood, I am not sure if this is going to be like Barcelona 2002, but it would be fantastic if that was the case.

I think I will watch this match over and over.

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: Gaudio and continue onward.

lsy
06-03-2004, 06:50 AM
Well done Gaudio, really well done.

I only get to watch from the 3rd set 3-0 onwards and when Hewitt crawled back to 2-3, I thought oh no...but then Gaudio was just too good, Hewitt can't do much at all. Love his backhand.

It was really great to see that big smile on his face after the match and the happiness from his camp. Even better was how he and Hewitt embraced each other, very friendly.

Well done. Congratulations also to GWH and all his long timed fans :)

FryslanBoppe
06-03-2004, 07:21 AM
Well done Gaudio, really well done.

I only get to watch from the 3rd set 3-0 onwards and when Hewitt crawled back to 2-3, I thought oh no...but then Gaudio was just too good, Hewitt can't do much at all. Love his backhand.

It was really great to see that big smile on his face after the match and the happiness from his camp. Even better was how he and Hewitt embraced each other, very friendly.

Well done. Congratulations also to GWH and all his long timed fans :)

Thanks for that Isy, there is a great respect between Hewitt and Gaudio for each other. It was when Hewitt had the dispute with the ATP about that stupid interview before the match against Ginepri in the US. Gaudio stood up for him and said he is a crazy guy on the court, but off the court he is different.

:bounce: :bounce: Gaston that was a very classy performance and it seems some people have finally noticed the good parts of his game. I just hope he can build on this and continue the great form.

Franco Davin and the camp were so happy and he is playing with a smile on his face and that is very important.

Lisbeth
06-03-2004, 07:25 AM
I agree that the friendliness was great to see, especially at such a high level match. Great to see both winners and losers displaying consideration and respect for each other. We see too many big matches where either the loser mopes off without a proper "congrats", or else the winner is too busy dancing around and hugging his/her entourage to show proper respect for their opponent.

Action Jackson
06-03-2004, 07:35 AM
Well done Gaudio, really well done.

I only get to watch from the 3rd set 3-0 onwards and when Hewitt crawled back to 2-3, I thought oh no...but then Gaudio was just too good, Hewitt can't do much at all. Love his backhand.

It was really great to see that big smile on his face after the match and the happiness from his camp. Even better was how he and Hewitt embraced each other, very friendly.

Well done. Congratulations also to GWH and all his long timed fans :)

Isy, I might just have to enjoy the moment, don't know when the next one is going to arrive with Gaudio and how could you not love the backhand.

Funny enough it seems the turning point was 3-2 on Hewitt's serve. Hewitt was leading 40-0, then he missed an easy volley, then had a backhand down the line that should have been put away, and missed it. Then from there Gaudio broke and then got in the groove of the match and then Hewitt was just dogmeat for the rest of the match.

The start of the second set had a very good moment of sportsmanship as has been the way for most of the matches during the tournament. Gaudio had a breakpoint at 30-40 and conceded the point after an incorrect call. It's good to see that sort of stuff can still go on in modern tennis.

lsy
06-03-2004, 07:39 AM
Thanks for that Isy, there is a great respect between Hewitt and Gaudio for each other. It was when Hewitt had the dispute with the ATP about that stupid interview before the match against Ginepri in the US. Gaudio stood up for him and said he is a crazy guy on the court, but off the court he is different.


I see. They did seem to really like each other.

I can totally understand how it must have been a great day for you guys who had been watching Gaudio for long time :)

I think WyverN can probably now sleep better and breath a sigh of relief too... ;)

FryslanBoppe
06-03-2004, 07:44 AM
Isy, I spoke to GWH he was even more annoying than usual before this match, but yes Wyver and GWH can sleep easier now.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/02/1086058922934.html?from=storylhs

Lleyton Hewitt's latest quest to reach a French Open semi-final ended on Wednesday in a comprehensive straight-sets failure.

Hewitt was beaten, and utterly outplayed, by unseeded Gaston Gaudio, the second Argentinian to reach the last four.

Having equalled his best French Open result by reaching the quarter-finals, Hewitt was unable to improve it, and the last Australian at Roland Garros - indeed, with Nicole Pratt, one of only two to pass the first round - was eliminated 6-3, 6-2 , 6-2.

Privately, there were two players Hewitt had most feared among the balance of the final eight: his old nemesis Carlos Moya, who lost to Guillermo Coria the previous night, and Gaudio, who played phenomenally well for the great majority of the two-hour claycourt exhibition on Court Philippe Chatrier.

For Gaudio, who was playing his first grand slam quarter-final, the pity was that so few Parisians chose to skip lunch to watch it. The world No.44 is not known for his mental resilience but his game was at such a high level, despite a tricky wind, that his nerve was tested only briefly in the middle stages of the third set.

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Hewitt was attempting to reach his first grand slam semi-final since the 2002 US Open, achieved two months after the second of his two grand slam titles - at Wimbledon, where he added a grasscourt major to his 2001 breakthrough on the unforgiving hardcourts of New York.

This was Gaudio's big moment.

The South American had won two of the pair's three previous meetings on clay, the most recent 12 days ago in Dusseldorf. Both matches this year had taken the full three sets but Wednesday's contest was wickedly one-sided. Hewitt's early willingness to attack Gaudio rather than try to grind him down proved unsuccessful, the 12th seed's bid to force the issue derailed by errors made at the rate of more than two to his opponent's one.

The players traded breaks to love in the opening two games but the decisive moment came with Hewitt serving at 40-15 in the sixth game. He missed a simple mid-court backhand for 40-30, tossed in a double fault, and when a backhand sailed long on break point, Gaudio had the advantage he retained until the end of the set. In the process he also began a roll that could not be stopped.

The Argentinian's backhand provided the greatest point of difference between the pair. It is a glorious one-hander, compared with Hewitt's consistent and functional two-hander, and the more classical version that is Gaudio's great strength served him magnificently. Down 30-40 in the seventh game of the first set, for example, he played a perfect drop shot from the baseline, and followed it to claim the next point with a brilliant crosscourt drive. His angles, pace and variety were superb.

For Hewitt, it is all over for another claycourt season, one that has generally brought him more matches and success than in the past but still no major result at Roland Garros. Even so, the preparation should serve him well when the tour switches to grass next week, and his Wimbledon campaign is well on track.

The surviving grasscourt specialist, Briton Tim Henman, reached the semi-finals on Tuesday. A quintessential serve-volleyer, Henman has taken three of his five giant claycourt strides in remarkably convincing fashion.

While Moya, who has won as many titles on clay as any active player, was overthrown 7-5, 7-6 (7-3), 6-3 in the first of the rain-delayed quarters by heir apparent Coria, Henman was overwhelming Argentinian dirt-baller Juan Ignacio Chela 6-2, 6-4, 6-4 on centre court. Night was falling but the British grasscourter barely took a false step.

And so, as the Roland Garros fortnight approaches its climax, the cast of characters is missing some of the usual suspects but featuring at least one perennial bit player in a starring role.

Coria's presence is not at all surprising, although his ability to end what was touted as the tournament's marquee match-up in the minimum three sets had not been quite so widely tipped.

The first Argentinian through to the semi-finals later predicted he would be celebrating on Sunday when the job was complete. Yet nothing can rival the impact of Henman's presence in the last four.

lsy
06-03-2004, 08:00 AM
Isy, I might just have to enjoy the moment, don't know when the next one is going to arrive with Gaudio and how could you not love the backhand.

Don't be so pessimistic. But I know you're gonna tell me that's how it is after being a long time gaudio fan. So seize the moment and enjoyed it fully. As for me, I'm excited about the next match of Gaudio/Nalbandian. Hopefully will be another great match.


The start of the second set had a very good moment of sportsmanship as has been the way for most of the matches during the tournament. Gaudio had a breakpoint at 30-40 and conceded the point after an incorrect call. It's good to see that sort of stuff can still go on in modern tennis.

I totally agree, which was why I really enjoyed both matches yesterday. All four of them just wanted to play good tennis and win, no nonsense, all fair and it's very entertaining. That's how I like it.

Fry, I can imagine how annoying that must have been.

Action Jackson
06-03-2004, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by Isy
Don't be so pessimistic. But I know you're gonna tell me that's how it is after being a long time gaudio fan. So seize the moment and enjoyed it fully. As for me, I'm excited about the next match of Gaudio/Nalbandian. Hopefully will be another great match.

Yes, you are right it's long years of putting up with the highlights and the lowlights, it's just the lowlights are so bad. I really want this to be an outstanding match and whoever wins this match I want them to win the tournament.

I totally agree, which was why I really enjoyed both matches yesterday. All four of them just wanted to play good tennis and win, no nonsense, all fair and it's very entertaining. That's how I like it.

Fry, I can imagine how annoying that must have been.

The Gaudio/Nalbandian match should be played in great spirit, and as long as one of them wins then it's cool and I must say I was very very happy after this match.

Neely
06-03-2004, 09:10 AM
exactly George, that missed backhand at 40-15 was also in my opinion the turning point.
that was also my first analysis in the scoring thread yesterday as Gaudio won the 1st set

J. Corwin
06-03-2004, 09:10 AM
Hewitt had his last chance at 2-3 in the 3rd set. Gaudio didn't choke and held. It's good that the better player won.

Action Jackson
06-03-2004, 09:18 AM
Of course the right guy won this match and if someone says otherwise they should be seen to by a doctor.

There is a cool 2,5 min press conference with Gaudio in English on the website.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/3769817.stm


Gaudio too good for Hewitt

Unseeded Argentine Gaston Gaudio thrashed Lleyton Hewitt 6-3 6-2 6-2 to reach the French Open semi-finals.

Gaudio taught his seeded opponent a lesson in claycourt tennis, using acute angles to send the Australian scurrying all over Chatrier Court.

Hewitt crucially lost serve at 3-4 in the first set, having been 40-0 up, and the 12th seed could find no way back.

Gaudio, in his first major quarter-final, never lost his grip on the match and earned five more service breaks.

"It has always been my dream to win this tournament," said Gaudio.

"But there is a long way to go yet because the two most difficult matches are yet to come."

Hewitt admitted: "He was too good. I didn't feel like I was hitting the ball as cleanly as I'd been hitting over the past week or so.

"A guy like that is confident on this surface and his movement is good. He's a class player on this surface."

Gaudio awaits the winner of Wednesday's second quarter-final between fellow Argentine David Nalbandian and Brazil's Gustavo Kuerten.

Nalbandian could make it three Argentines in the semi-finals, after Guillermo Coria's win over Carlos Moya on Tuesday.

Note: We know he plays Nalbandian in the semi finals.

Experimentee
06-03-2004, 01:36 PM
Don't be so pessimistic. But I know you're gonna tell me that's how it is after being a long time gaudio fan. So seize the moment and enjoyed it fully. As for me, I'm excited about the next match of Gaudio/Nalbandian. Hopefully will be another great match.

I've been a fan for a long time, but I really think he may have turned it around, at least for this tournament. He served out the first two sets against Hewitt at love and the 3rd set at 15 :eek:
Also he turned around his crap 5 set record but winning back to back 5 set matches against great players and great fighters. :eek:
He mentioned in his interview that he had a chance to get into the QF against Ferrero a couple of years ago, but wasted it. He doesnt want to waste anymore chances again.
I havent seen confidence and motivation like this since 2002 when he won Barcelona/Mallorca. Now he is finally playing to his potential and not wasting his talent.

FanOfHewitt
06-03-2004, 02:43 PM
Hewitt hasn't beaten anyone in the top 30 for around 4 months (except Verkerk but I bet he never gets into top 30 again now that his FO points are of).

Actually just over 3 months. Don't make me include the 3 top tenners he whipped in a row again.

Nevertheless Hewitt has probably done better on clay than he ever has, and that includes when he was number one, so I think its a cause for some optimism.

And about Verkerk, if he played the way he did agaisnt Hewitt at the French Open against all the other players in the world he would have pantsed all but a handful of them. That type of form was good enough to beat Coria and Moya last year. And he actually served at a higher percentage and made less unforced errors against Hewitt than he did agaisnt those two last year.

Experimentee
06-03-2004, 03:00 PM
Actually just over 3 months. Don't make me include the 3 top tenners he whipped in a row again.

Nevertheless Hewitt has probably done better on clay than he ever has, and that includes when he was number one, so I think its a cause for some optimism.

And about Verkerk, if he played the way he did agaisnt Hewitt at the French Open against all the other players in the world he would have pantsed all but a handful of them. That type of form was good enough to beat Coria and Moya last year. And he actually served at a higher percentage and made less unforced errors against Hewitt than he did agaisnt those two last year.

We all know Verkerk hasnt been anywhere near the form of last year's RG since. He displays patches of it, but cant sustain it for more than a set. Verkerk only got to the 3rd round because of a lucky draw and even then he needed a retirement. If he played Hewitt the way he did last year against Coria and Moya, it would have been similar to the match against Gaudio.

CmonAussie
06-03-2004, 03:15 PM
We all know Verkerk hasnt been anywhere near the form of last year's RG since. He displays patches of it, but cant sustain it for more than a set. Verkerk only got to the 3rd round because of a lucky draw and even then he needed a retirement. If he played Hewitt the way he did last year against Coria and Moya, it would have been similar to the match against Gaudio.
:rolleyes:
Hewitt is having a pretty decent year so far; 38matches played for 29wins & 9losses. Wins include: Clement, Nadal, Verkerk(3-times), Ferrero, Gonzalez, Shuettler, Henman, Haas, Bjorkman, Moya, Ginepri, Malisse, Melzer(twice), Gaudio, Saretta, Johannson(twice), Soderling(twice)...etc. :cool:
-->> up to June 04: Won Sydney, Won Rotterdam, Final WTC, SF Hamburg TMS, QF Roland Garros :) .
OK? So it's going fairly well so far & his best chance of success is still to come (ie. grass season & American hardcourt~ where he's triumphed in the past!!).
The only players doing better in 04(in terms of points & Tourney wins) are: Federer, Coria, Moya, Roddick :worship: .

FanOfHewitt
06-03-2004, 03:27 PM
We all know Verkerk hasnt been anywhere near the form of last year's RG since. He displays patches of it, but cant sustain it for more than a set. Verkerk only got to the 3rd round because of a lucky draw and even then he needed a retirement. If he played Hewitt the way he did last year against Coria and Moya, it would have been similar to the match against Gaudio.

He may have been having a pretty average year but there was nothing average about the way he played against Hewitt. For about 2 and a half sets Hewitt was struggling to get his racquet on Verkerk's serves. He was serving at about 75 percent and consistently hitting lines. More over he was pulling out some awesome groundstrokes. I don't know what too many players could have done to counteract that.

WyveN
06-03-2004, 03:33 PM
Actually just over 3 months. Don't make me include the 3 top tenners he whipped in a row again.

Nevertheless Hewitt has probably done better on clay than he ever has, and that includes when he was number one, so I think its a cause for some optimism.


WHO HAS HE BEATEN? The 2 decent results he had were at Hamburg and the FO where he got comprehensively thrashed as soon as he played someone decent.


And about Verkerk, if he played the way he did agaisnt Hewitt at the French Open against all the other players in the world he would have pantsed all but a handful of them.


Verkerk will be back to playing challengers soon enough, if you bothered to notice Verkerk was whipping him when he was playing decent tennis but Verkerk is not a player who can keep that form up for more then 40 minutes.


That type of form was good enough to beat Coria and Moya last year. And he actually served at a higher percentage and made less unforced errors against Hewitt than he did agaisnt those two last year.

*yawn*, Verkerk got hot last year, wont ever happen again, to suggest he was playing better against Hewitt for the duration of the 5 sets then he was last year is laughable.

Experimentee
06-03-2004, 03:39 PM
He may have been having a pretty average year but there was nothing average about the way he played against Hewitt. For about 2 and a half sets Hewitt was struggling to get his racquet on Verkerk's serves. He was serving at about 75 percent and consistently hitting lines. More over he was pulling out some awesome groundstrokes. I don't know what too many players could have done to counteract that.

Yeah like I said he produces that kind of tennis for sets, but he cant sustain it like he could last year. At the AO this year, i think he was playing Corretja, and he destroyed him for one set and his opponent could do nothing, but then he couldnt keep it up and lost. Probbaly thats the story with a lot of his matches since RG last year.

WyveN
06-03-2004, 03:40 PM
:rolleyes:
Hewitt is having a pretty decent year so far; 38matches played for 29wins & 9losses. Wins include: Clement, Nadal, Verkerk(3-times), Ferrero, Gonzalez, Shuettler, Henman, Haas, Bjorkman, Moya, Ginepri, Malisse, Melzer(twice), Gaudio, Saretta, Johannson(twice), Soderling(twice)...etc. :cool:


what a impressive list apart from Moya who retired :rolleyes:
Almost makes the fact that he hasn't beaten anyone in the top 30 since end of February irrelevant.

Pretty impressive clutching at straws, the Hewitt saga will resume on grass soon.

WyveN
06-03-2004, 03:44 PM
:rolleyes:
The only players doing better in 04(in terms of points & Tourney wins) are: Federer, Coria, Moya, Roddick :worship: .

forgetting Safin, Nalbandian and Henman

CmonAussie
06-03-2004, 03:49 PM
forgetting Safin, Nalbandian and Henman
:wavey:
Safin hasn't won a tournament this year (actually Paris 2002 was most recent title); Nalbandian hasn't won anything since 2002 Swiss Indoor; Henman hasn't won a title since Paris 2003... since those guys haven't claimed any titles between them this year I consider Hewitt's season slightly better so far ;) ! Of course if David or Tiger Tim claim RG Trophy then you can drop Hewitt one notch down the list of 04 performers :cool: ..

Gonzalo81
06-03-2004, 04:20 PM
Go Gaston

FanOfHewitt
06-03-2004, 06:08 PM
WHO HAS HE BEATEN? The 2 decent results he had were at Hamburg and the FO where he got comprehensively thrashed as soon as he played someone decent.

Since when has he been expected to beat the best on clay anyway? Nevertheless, he has beaten Gaudio, he has beaten Verkerk twice and and he has beaten players like Malisse, (who had taken out Costa and Schuettler) and Melzer (who had taken out Safin) who were in red hot form.


Verkerk will be back to playing challengers soon enough, if you bothered to notice Verkerk was whipping him when he was playing decent tennis but Verkerk is not a player who can keep that form up for more then 40 minutes..

Wtf? did you even watch the match? If you think Verkerk played 40 minutes of good tennis then you didn't watch it closely enough. And by the way, weren't you saying before the Hewitt/Verkerk match that you wouldn't be surprised if he beat Hewitt? Oh, but now that Lleyton trumped him Martin's only fit for the challenger circuit.

And besides, it doesn't matter how good a player he is overall. Even if he is only fit for a challenger circuit. Look at how he played on the day, he was pulling shots out his rear!

*yawn*, Verkerk got hot last year, wont ever happen again, to suggest he was playing better against Hewitt for the duration of the 5 sets then he was last year is laughable.

I haven't got his victories against Coria and Moya at the fore of my mind, but statistically speaking, he played better agaisnt Hewitt than he did against those other players. From what I remember of the Coria and Moya matches which I saw, I don't think he was playing better last year against those two. That was one of the best serving exhibitions against Hewitt I had ever seen. And some fo hsi groundstrokes weren't far behind.

RogiFan88
06-03-2004, 09:20 PM
did anyone ask Gaston why he's playing so well this RG? just curious... did he make a concerted effort to do well or is he being inspired by Coria or Nalby's good results? I think it's about time... he has great talent and it s not be wasted.

vamos, Gato!

heya
06-03-2004, 10:32 PM
Gaston blocked out negative emotions and decided not to throw away another match against Hewitt. Now, he can fight on hardcourt too. He learned from his collapse in Montreal 1st round.

WyveN
06-03-2004, 11:46 PM
Since when has he been expected to beat the best on clay anyway? Nevertheless, he has beaten Gaudio, he has beaten Verkerk twice and and he has beaten players like Malisse, (who had taken out Costa and Schuettler) and Melzer (who had taken out Safin) who were in red hot form.


Mallise, Melzer and Verkerk are not impressive scalps on clay. I consider Hewitt beating Canas back in 2002 far more impressive.



Wtf? did you even watch the match? If you think Verkerk played 40 minutes of good tennis then you didn't watch it closely enough.


Do you think Verkerk played as well in the 5th set as he did in the 2nd/3rd?
Do you think Verkerk dropping something like 10 out of 11 games was a result of a dramatic drop in play by Verkerk or a dramatic rise in play by Hewitt?
I don't know why your trying to hype up Hewitt's victories, talk about him defeating Canas in 2002, that was pretty impressive.


And by the way, weren't you saying before the Hewitt/Verkerk match that you wouldn't be surprised if he beat Hewitt? Oh, but now that Lleyton trumped him Martin's only fit for the challenger circuit.


Yes I wouldnt be surprised if Verkerk beat Hewitt and yes I did consider Verkerk close to challenger circuit level when I made those comments but with Verkerks type of game he always had a outside chance of blowing Hewitt of the court. My comments suggested I considered Hewitt a favourite though.


And besides, it doesn't matter how good a player he is overall. Even if he is only fit for a challenger circuit. Look at how he played on the day, he was pulling shots out his rear!


Not after the 3rd set, credit to Hewitt for hanging in there and waiting until the real Verkerk came back, many others might have given up.


I haven't got his victories against Coria and Moya at the fore of my mind, but statistically speaking, he played better agaisnt Hewitt than he did against those other players. From what I remember of the Coria and Moya matches which I saw, I don't think he was playing better last year against those two. That was one of the best serving exhibitions against Hewitt I had ever seen. And some fo hsi groundstrokes weren't far behind.

But Hewitt being the superb clay courter was able to overcome the mighty Verkerk that slaughtered Moya and Coria last year. :rolleyes:

I love these Hewitt debates, perhaps you should let his results do the talking - him winning Wimbledon would certainly shut my criticism up.

Lisbeth
06-03-2004, 11:54 PM
Gaudio said he's been seeing a sports psychologist. I think he always had the game, he's just learned some mental toughness to go with it.

Action Jackson
06-04-2004, 01:57 AM
did anyone ask Gaston why he's playing so well this RG? just curious... did he make a concerted effort to do well or is he being inspired by Coria or Nalby's good results? I think it's about time... he has great talent and it s not be wasted.

vamos, Gato!

He has finally decided that the head needed some major working and is seeing a psychologist, and maybe he is trying to get those 3 horrible Davis Cup experiences that he had out of his head, which have been effecting him, but he is very relaxed and has had a great tournament, but needs to confirm it with two more victories.

rassklovn
06-04-2004, 06:09 AM
A bit late I know, but this was a great result and maybe this is the major turning point in his career and he can perform and finish off the top players in matches, instead of losing in the vital moments.

Kristen
06-04-2004, 07:23 AM
Heya GWH!
Just wanted to share with you that, Gaston has moved from my list of least liked, to most liked :)
However, that tantrum against Schuettler a couple of years back, will always be a tarnish! lol... Go Gaston, you good man, you! :wavey:

Supersonik
06-04-2004, 07:33 AM
Heya GWH!
Just wanted to share with you that, Gaston has moved from my list of least liked, to most liked :)
However, that tantrum against Schuettler a couple of years back, will always be a tarnish! lol... Go Gaston, you good man, you! :wavey:

I see you got with the strength then, it's good to see that you can appreciate Gaston. What tantrum are we talking about here. :)