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Open letter to Safin - Time for retirement?

Eden
10-18-2007, 10:25 AM
Just saw that report on www.tennis.com and thought to post it:


Time for Marat to head for the hills

Dear Marat:

What’s up? Hope all is well. You must be in a good mood today after Russia's upset win over England in the UEFA game, huh? Big surprise, but then it¹s never easy for a visiting team to win in Moscow.
I saw you on TV this week, at the Madrid Masters. Looking good. You’ll be rocking the ’fro in no time.

http://www.tennis.com/uploadedImages/Editorial/General/2007_10_17_Safin_article.jpg
After yet another early loss in Madrid this week, is it time for Marat Safin to think about packing his bags for good?
© Jasper Juinen/Getty Images

But listen, I’m writing on a more serious note. Let me be blunt: You’re a mess, man. You haven’t won more than two matches in a row since mid-July, and your best result this season was in February when you reached the semifinals of Las Vegas. Fitting, since you’ve been coming up craps ever since.
It’s the same story with you: another week, another miserable loss. In Madrid you, big guy, lost to an even bigger guy, Ivo Karlovic 6-3, 6-4, in 59 minutes. What, were you double-parked?
I could cut you some slack, since the 6-foot-10 Karlovic is a nightmare to play on an indoor court, but you obviously didn’t go into the match with much hope. What was it that you said? Oh, right, “I [didn’t] expect anything from this one. Just finish the year and that’s it.”
Ah, the power of positive thinking.
You’re killing me, Marat. Lately, you’ve been as committed to tennis as Hugh Hefner is to monogamy. And when you do play, it’s been painful to watch. Please, explain your flameouts this season to Feliciano Lopez, Kristof Vliegen, Janko Tipsarevic, Hyung-Taik Lee, and Nicolas Kiefer. Journeymen, each and every one of them, and you barely put up a fight. Which is more than I can say for your performance against Nicolas Mahut in Indian Wells, Calif., where you posted a bagel in the third set. That’s actually quite impressive. On some level, it’s harder to find a way to lose a set at love than it is to scratch out a game or two, especially with your firepower.
It’s all leading me to believe that you should quit tennis. I don’t mean temporarily hang up your racquet so you can go on a farcical journey in the Himalayans to regroup, reenergize, and refocus—clearly, you’re incapable of that. You should pack up and never return.
Marat, this isn’t an easy thing to say for me. Ever since you crashed the scene in 2000, blowing Pete Sampras off the court in the U.S. Open final—a victory that was at once brutal and artistic—I’ve been a big fan. No one hits a cleaner, heavier ball than you, and it’s been refreshing to have a top player with a fiery, melodramatic personality. You’ve got soul, unlike your compatriots Nikolay Davydenko and, before him, Yevgeny Kafelnikov, who treat the game with a stone-cold business-like efficiency.
But your “why-me” theatrics have grown tired. Boris Becker played the role of Hamlet, too, pitching his head to the sky after a mistake as if some otherworldly power was torturing him for kicks. The difference was that Becker was a winner throughout his career.
What's with the ’tude, dude? You’re like a teenager who’s way too self-absorbed for his own good. When you were recently asked about the gambling investigation in men’s tennis, which strikes at the very core of the sport’s integrity and deserves an informed response from all of the top players, your response was weaker than an Elena Dementieva second serve. “To be honest,” you said, “I don’t really care. Whatever people do and whatever they want to do, I don’t care. If the world collapses, I don’t really care. I have enough problems myself. I can’t worry about other people’s problems.”
Never mind that this is the kind of thinking that gets us all into trouble in every facet of life – like, say, a war in Iraq – it shows a lack of respect for the sport that made you a millionaire in the first place. Even John McEnroe, Mr. Ego himself, cares (or at least pretends to care) about tennis.
Look, Marat, I know you’re hard on yourself—self-criticism is in your blood, ingrained over many formative childhood years by your mother and the severe Soviet system. Positive reinforcement? It didn’t exist in your universe. You’ve even said, “I didn’t care to play tennis, didn’t really like it.”
And I know you’ve always struggled with the high expectations that came from beating Sampras. You should be No. 1 if only you apply yourself, or so goes the conventional wisdom. It seems to me that you’ve chosen to diffuse this talk by playing so horrendously that no one can even entertain the thought of you challenging for majors anymore.
That’s a sad commentary on your career. Didn’t you get any perspective when you ditched your Davis Cup mates in September to trek up Nepal’s Cho Oyu mountain, only to quit at the base camp. I can only imagine how miserable you were, and how miserable you made your fellow hikers on that journey, when you discovered that climbing a mountain is, like, real work.
Tennis is hard work, too. You can’t keep playing meathead tennis, rallying without many changes in pace and placement, and expect to win. You’re good, but not that good.
I came across a quote yesterday from Paul Annacone that was apropos of your career. “My old boss said to me once,” Annacone says, “the definition of how good you are is in three areas: your head, your heart, and your talent level.”
What’s the average of a D, F, and A? We’re talking only slightly better than Marcelo Rios here.
Don’t laugh. He won 18 career titles; you’re at 15. Granted, you’ve got 2 majors, while Rios never won a Slam. But you both share that absurd, petulant attitude, which undermines everything you do on court.
Hey, man, it’s your career. But you’re 27, and if you can get healthy you might want to dig in for a year or two before your body, or mind, or both, totally conk out. No regrets, right? Otherwise, spare your fans the heartache and join Yevgeny at the poker table.
Later,
James

Source: http://www.tennis.com/features/general/features.aspx?id=107260

adee-gee
10-18-2007, 10:36 AM
Safin's game has fallen apart. His serve, return and forehand are all a shadow of what they used to be. Whether he can get it back or not I don't know, but it's not even his effort anymore as the game simply isn't there nowadays.

Meeek
10-18-2007, 10:37 AM
:yawn:

CmonAussie
10-18-2007, 10:44 AM
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i believe Safin will play 2008, but if the results don`t come [like this year]~~ he`ll probably call it quits @ the end of next year><.

Horatio Caine
10-18-2007, 10:46 AM
I can't believe someone spent 30 minutes of their life to write a piece of shit like that.

scoobs
10-18-2007, 10:46 AM
I don't care so much how he plays - it's his attitude that pisses me off.

He acts all the time like the whole reason he's going through all this is completely outside himself, like none of it is under his control, like there's some angry God out there that he pissed off and who is now torturing him for kicks.

Basically he's made this not about him, his choices and his attitude. It's wrong and it sucks.

Until he starts to take responsibility for all the things he can control, he'll continue to blunder around winning a match here, a match there, with far more disappointing capitulations, moaning and mithering and whining his way through press conferences about how awful it is to be him.

Well fuck that. I agree with the article writer. Either really make the effort or fuck off and do something else. I see Ferrero, I see Moya, I see Roddick, I even see Kuerten - past Slam champs still active in the game and still with the right attitude, still trying their best to make things happen out there. Then we have Marat lumbering around like a bear with a sore head acting like the world turn to shit on him and it's none of his fault. Enough. It's a good job he says he doesn't care about the past because he's been shitting all over it for a while now.

Horatio Caine
10-18-2007, 10:47 AM
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i believe Safin will play 2008, but if the results don`t come [like this year]~~ he`ll probably call it quits @ the end of next year><.

...along with Grosjean, Bjorkman, Mirnyi and a few other sentimental favourites :sobbing:

HarryMan
10-18-2007, 10:57 AM
So Safin should consider retirement because some fan on the internet feels that it's appropriate and not his own personal choice regarding his life, seems very logical ;)

gjr
10-18-2007, 11:12 AM
He's getting too much appearance and sponsorship money to quit just yet. Although that will drop off he doesn't up his game next year. Which I don't think he can.

MariaV
10-18-2007, 11:19 AM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: - to his so-called 'fan' James.

Iván
10-18-2007, 11:20 AM
I actually thought that was quite well written..

Fucksake Marat...

Federer, nadal and novak all know your better than them!!!

BUT YOU HAVE TO SHOW THEM!!!!!!!

lucindia
10-18-2007, 11:27 AM
I actually thought that was quite well written..

Fucksake Marat...

Federer, nadal and novak all know your better than them!!!

BUT YOU HAVE TO SHOW THEM!!!!!!!

:) Sooo true

Don't even know what to say about this "letter", does he really like Marat?:rolleyes:

Anyway, the end of his career is close (this year or next year), and that makes me so sad...the end of an era...He will still be the most talented player

Rogiman
10-18-2007, 11:40 AM
Great piece.

Many of us find ourselves committed to jobs and relationships we've not been enjoying for a long time, but are afraid to leave just because we doubt our abilities to try something new.

Safin hates tennis, and isn't willing to put in the hard work required to compete at this level.
With every passing day he's damaging his legacy as a two-Slams winner and a former world #1.

He should officially retire, because practically he's been retired for a long time now, and unlike us he can afford to.

Murraymaniac
10-18-2007, 11:59 AM
He often reminds me of Charizard...

Another case of extreme talent being ruined by poor work ethic.

Mrs Tommy Haas
10-18-2007, 12:05 PM
well, happy people who ask for retirement, he does retire again from this season and won't play till january. just got in.

mineralwater
10-18-2007, 12:22 PM
think he's just a bit disillusioned and fed up and going through a slump. Not motivated. In my opinion he's still got the ability to keep up with the guys but is lacking upstairs. He perhaps needs to figure this out over the off season then decide what to do. If he retires, what will he do? at the end of the day he can still make a decent living on the tour, at least for another 2-3 yrs.

hope he sorts himself out because I love watching him play (when he can be bothered).

Dimonator133
10-18-2007, 12:25 PM
well, happy people who ask for retirement, he does retire again from this season and won't play till january. just got in.


??

Mrs Tommy Haas
10-18-2007, 12:26 PM
http://maratsafin.com/content.php?did=10&aid=6f6fdea6a2f7f570d5fa1c78af7b87a5

lucindia
10-18-2007, 12:27 PM
Marat won't come to Bercy:sad: :sad: :sad:

scoobs
10-18-2007, 12:29 PM
A wise decision and hopefully the 2008 Safin will be much better than the 2007 vintage.

I'm a bit surprised he's not going to Davis Cup though.

Even as poor as he's been lately, Marat has still been a big asset to the Davis Cup side. I feel that this decision gives the USA quite a boost in its quest to bring home the title this year.

Dimonator133
10-18-2007, 12:33 PM
A wise decision and hopefully the 2008 Safin will be much better than the 2007 vintage.

I'm a bit surprised he's not going to Davis Cup though.

Even as poor as he's been lately, Marat has still been a big asset to the Davis Cup side. I feel that this decision gives the USA quite a boost in its quest to bring home the title this year.



it definitely hurts the U.S. team, actually. I'd much rather play Safin than guys like Davydenko and even Tursunov, and even Youzhny. Safin is probably one of the few players in the top 100 who James Blake can beat right now. He certainly can't beat Davydenko, don't care where or on what surface the match is.

leng jai
10-18-2007, 12:42 PM
it definitely hurts the U.S. team, actually. I'd much rather play Safin than guys like Davydenko and even Tursunov, and even Youzhny. Safin is probably one of the few players in the top 100 who James Blake can beat right now. He certainly can't beat Davydenko, don't care where or on what surface the match is.

Not really. Safin finds a new type of motivation when it comes to DC.

Dimonator133
10-18-2007, 01:00 PM
Not really. Safin finds a new type of motivation when it comes to DC.


well apparently not anymore!

scoobs
10-18-2007, 01:06 PM
well apparently not anymore!
No but he did - he was awesome in DC last year while being crappy everywhere else - he demanded Tarpischev put him out for the final rubber of the final against Argentina, promised he'd get it done - and he delivered.

I think the US team will be delighted to see Safin decide to skip this one.

Dimonator133
10-18-2007, 01:11 PM
No but he did - he was awesome in DC last year while being crappy everywhere else - he demanded Tarpischev put him out for the final rubber of the final against Argentina, promised he'd get it done - and he delivered.

I think the US team will be delighted to see Safin decide to skip this one.



"not anymore" obviously referred to the fact that he is not playing in the 2007 final :retard:

scoobs
10-18-2007, 01:12 PM
"not anymore" obviously referred to the fact that he is not playing in the 2007 final :retard:
Yes, I got that, thanks :wavey:

Burrow
10-18-2007, 02:55 PM
dimonator whats with the attitude?

Anyway I'd never thought Safin would end up the state he is today, looking back to 2002 when he was young and fresh, where he was one of the dangered plsyers up until 2005 when he got the knee injury. He obviously had the wrist injury inbetween that time but that's irrelevant.

It's a shame the way he has ended up, he doesn't have the movement anymore but he still has time to improve things and I hope that is what he can do for 2008, this will be the telling year.

goldenlox
10-18-2007, 03:37 PM
It really comes down to how much does he want to play. It's hard work to be in shape as a pro athlete. Lots of aches and pains. But no one can go thru the motions and stay near the top. They have to do the work it takes.

Burrow
10-18-2007, 03:54 PM
He should be motivated, he has done rubbish and watched players who are less of his ability climb far above him in the rankings, he doesn't have 10 years left like he did when he won the US Open, it's sad to say but he only has 1 or 2. I'd like to see Safin push for one final time.

R.Federer
10-18-2007, 05:17 PM
If it were not for the remarkable turnarounds that some players have made before they stop, I would give some credence to this article. He can still turn it around.... if he wants to.

sodman12
10-18-2007, 05:24 PM
anyone else feel this article is a little harsh?

I mean its easy to just point fingers and thats basically all this guy is doing.

Burrow
10-18-2007, 06:03 PM
I agree sodman12. Safin has been hampered by injury, this guy doesn't know shit, whether he has been training hard of not.

Burrow
10-18-2007, 06:04 PM
If it were not for the remarkable turnarounds that some players have made before they stop, I would give some credence to this article. He can still turn it around.... if he wants to.

He has been wanting to turn it around since his comeback! :rolleyes:

Krikry
10-18-2007, 06:16 PM
The guy who wrote this letter really thinks that Marat's gonna read it ...

Burrow
10-18-2007, 06:19 PM
And if Safin did read it, would he give a shit?

bokehlicious
10-18-2007, 06:26 PM
Time to retire Marat, and start a new career as a gambler :cool: :o

MCL
10-18-2007, 06:31 PM
anyone else feel this article is a little harsh?

I mean its easy to just point fingers and thats basically all this guy is doing.

I agree sodman12. Safin has been hampered by injury, this guy doesn't know shit, whether he has been training hard of not.

:yeah:
The writer makes some points but doesn't paint an accurate picture.
I'd respect his letter more if he just said "Retire Safin, you mug" and left it at that.
(I'd disagree but respect it :lol:)

Fee
10-18-2007, 06:34 PM
Players actually hope to see Marat's name in their side of the draw now, a big name scalp they want to put on their match resume. I don't think anyone is afraid of him anymore.

CyBorg
10-18-2007, 06:39 PM
He just won a doubles title. Sod off.

Exodus
10-18-2007, 06:52 PM
Players actually hope to see Marat's name in their side of the draw now, a big name scalp they want to put on their match resume. I don't think anyone is afraid of him anymore.

so true but players won't get impressed anymore beating safin it's way too easy now[LEFT[/LEFT]

Ales_Alessandra
10-18-2007, 06:55 PM
:ras:

Peoples
10-18-2007, 08:27 PM
Oh just fuck off. It's not a player's own decision? Way out of line.

Peoples
10-18-2007, 08:30 PM
Players actually hope to see Marat's name in their side of the draw now, a big name scalp they want to put on their match resume. I don't think anyone is afraid of him anymore.

I doubt anybody would think like that. I doubt anyone would put a match resume in front of progression in a tournament, ranking points and money.

lucindia
10-18-2007, 08:36 PM
so true but players won't get impressed anymore beating safin it's way too easy now[LEFT[/LEFT]

Not true. U never know what will happen with Marat...i've heard players say that when they enter the court they just don't know what will happen. Marat can play the perfect match or play terribly bad.... i think it's still the same in players' mind today!
He still have the talent, there's just something going wrong in his head...he can play at his best tomorrow if he has the "mood"!

Allure
10-18-2007, 08:48 PM
so true but players won't get impressed anymore beating safin it's way too easy now[LEFT[/LEFT]

:o

Marek.
10-19-2007, 12:34 AM
Eden, why do you hate Russians so much?



;)

jasmin
10-19-2007, 12:39 AM
I don't know but I feel no matter how bad it is or seems for the player they should decide when they want to leave a sport....not me.

smitty8
10-19-2007, 12:49 AM
Dear Marat,

What's up? Hope all is well. You must be in a good mood today after what we did last night, huh? Big surprise, but then it's never easy for a guy like you to stay in that position for three hours. Looking good. You'll be rocking Roger's jock in no time.

But listen, I'm writing on a more serious note. Let me be blunt: Stop sending me flowers, man. You haven't gone more than two days in a row without calling me since mid-July, and my only "me" time this season was in February when you reached the semifinals of Las Vegas. Fitting, since you’ve been coming up craps ever since, haha.

It's the same story with you: another week, another miserable bunch of stargazer lilies sent to my door. Jimmy says if you stop thinking about me maybe both of us will improve our results, and I agree.

Later,
Andy

:eek: :spit:

Regenbogen
10-19-2007, 01:27 AM
I get so tired of the whole "he would be so amazing etc etc if he could only play at his best all the time!" So Safin is worse about that than some people, but nobody plays perfectly all the time, and you have to make the best of what you've got on a given day. Safin doesn't.

That said, I'm sure he could do decently on tour for a few more years if he put his mind to it. Whether that happens we'll see.

Dimonator133
10-19-2007, 05:11 AM
in all seriousness it comes down to a simple question for Marat:



:drink: or :tennis:


it's just so frustrating that he is half-assing both right. Devote 100% to one or the other. Either party 24 hours a day and start an ongoing blog about it or write a book about it, or devote all of your time to tennis. He's not getting much out of either endeavor playing tennis during the day and being a lunatic at night.

It has to be all one or all the other. Please, Safin.:shrug:

AnnaK_4ever
10-19-2007, 05:18 AM
Not true. U never know what will happen with Marat...i've heard players say that when they enter the court they just don't know what will happen. Marat can play the perfect match or play terribly bad.... i think it's still the same in players' mind today!
He still have the talent, there's just something going wrong in his head...he can play at his best tomorrow if he has the "mood"!

:spit: