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Murray v Rafa - who will win

danton
10-17-2007, 11:27 PM
Murray is returning to form and Rafa still not quite a 100% but on home ground.

Who is going to win?

stebs
10-17-2007, 11:29 PM
Murray will if form so far is anyting to go by.

That said, I pick Rafa.

LocoPorElTenis
10-17-2007, 11:33 PM
Hard to call. Tennis will be the winner, I hope.

mark_s
10-17-2007, 11:39 PM
IF Murray brings what he had against Chela then he will win, if he brings anything less then it could go either way.

R.Federer
10-17-2007, 11:41 PM
First real test for Murray since his return, so let's see what he's got

rofe
10-17-2007, 11:43 PM
This will hopefully be good tennis from Murray. Tomorrow's most interesting matches:

Will Andy finish the job he started in AO and will that propel him into an upwards trajectory like Novak?

Will Roger get his revenge against a recent nemesis?

Schu
10-17-2007, 11:44 PM
IF Murray brings what he had against Chela then he will win, if he brings anything less then it could go either way.

There is a difference between Chela and Rafa. He'll need all he's got (plus more) against Rafa.

adee-gee
10-17-2007, 11:44 PM
Probably the 1st time this year I want Rafa to lose a match.

Muzza can go all the way to the final if he wins and it'd give him a shot at Shanghai. Rafa doesn't really need the win, though I'm sure he's desperate to go far in his home tourney.

I want Muzza, but I think Rafa will edge it, possibly in 3.

scarecrows
10-17-2007, 11:45 PM
hehe Murray dominating the poll

wishful thinking or being realistic?

I think Murray has a good chance tomorrow, he's been playing damn well here

TMJordan
10-17-2007, 11:45 PM
I don't like either or them, but I think Murray will win.

danton
10-17-2007, 11:58 PM
On betfair Rafa is the strong favourite

Voo de Mar
10-18-2007, 12:00 AM
Murray 7-5 4-6 6-4 ;)

scoobs
10-18-2007, 12:04 AM
Head says Rafa, heart says Murray

I go with the heart.

Come on Andy...make it count...

decrepitude
10-18-2007, 12:04 AM
I'm not happy that Murray is leading the poll.

Usually when MTF says he will win, he loses.:(

Sunset of Age
10-18-2007, 12:06 AM
Pfooh, tough one.
I like both the players, but I truly hope Raf to be able to get through!

Three sets, Raf in the end being the winner. :angel:

Andi-M
10-18-2007, 12:09 AM
Murray in 2. :D

Heart and head agree on this!!!!

Alex999
10-18-2007, 12:11 AM
I think Murray will win as long as he plays his best. Rafa seems to be very rusty. His knees are not 100%.

Allure
10-18-2007, 12:15 AM
I'm not happy that Murray is leading the poll.

Usually when MTF says he will win, he loses.:(

That only applies to Safin. ;)

cmurray
10-18-2007, 12:23 AM
Probably the 1st time this year I want Rafa to lose a match.

Muzza can go all the way to the final if he wins and it'd give him a shot at Shanghai. Rafa doesn't really need the win, though I'm sure he's desperate to go far in his home tourney.

I want Muzza, but I think Rafa will edge it, possibly in 3.

I DETEST it when they play each other. On one hand, it'd sure be nice to see Murray in Shanghai AND I love his momentum right now. On the other hand, the last time I cheered against Rafa was when he played Andre in Montreal in 2005. It goes against my grain. Plus, any ranking points gained are good ranking points. :sobbing: Its a real conundrum. sniff.

jcempire
10-18-2007, 12:25 AM
I don't like either or them, but I think Murray will win.

But I like both

They got play well

NYCtennisfan
10-18-2007, 12:48 AM
Murray has to serve at least at 55%+ to control enough of his service games. 60%+ would be nice, but that's probably not going to happen. Should be fun to watch.

ufokart
10-18-2007, 12:50 AM
Hopefully Murray in 2 :)

Burrow
10-18-2007, 12:59 AM
Nadal.

Marek.
10-18-2007, 01:00 AM
Nadal in three.

canas
10-18-2007, 01:09 AM
Murray

Farenhajt
10-18-2007, 01:44 AM
Since we almost always can rely on good ole Muzza to reach the moment in a big(gish) match when he decides he'd rather be home making patchwork quilts and singing duets with his canary, I go with Rafa.

Merton
10-18-2007, 01:48 AM
I like Murray's chances here even though there is always the possibility that he will replicate the performance against Robredo in Metz. It should be a very entertaining match.

Corey Feldman
10-18-2007, 02:29 AM
Andrew Muzza 6-1 6-0

Clara Bow
10-18-2007, 03:27 AM
I like both- but I am rooting for Rafa so he can put his summer hard court swing of horrors behind him. I believe that Murray will win though- because his form is so much better at this tournament so far.

Plus, any ranking points gained are good ranking points

That too.

laure xxx
10-18-2007, 03:52 AM
Murray in 2. No doubt. Murray will be top 5 by next year.

Metis
10-18-2007, 03:59 AM
I DETEST it when they play each other. On one hand, it'd sure be nice to see Murray in Shanghai AND I love his momentum right now. On the other hand, the last time I cheered against Rafa was when he played Andre in Montreal in 2005. It goes against my grain. Plus, any ranking points gained are good ranking points. :sobbing: Its a real conundrum. sniff.

I felt the same way today about the Nadal-Baghdatis match :sad: .


As for tomorrow's match, I think Murray has quite a few chances, but hopefull Rafa will up his level. His 1st serve % was really low today :tape:...

jcempire
10-18-2007, 05:34 AM
6800 bet on Andy Murray

Why????????

RedFury
10-18-2007, 05:57 AM
Rafa all the way. As rusty as he was 2day, his game started coming together towards the end of the first set -- and even then, there's still a lot of work ahead (first serves, UEs), although he ultimately made Baggy look rather ordinary and not a top-25 player. Nadal's the kind of player that needs to be constantly in the mix with his particular brand of tennis to be at the very top of his game.

OTOH, yeah, Murray is a shot-maker with little to nothing lacking in his repertoire..'.cept for the movement that is oh so very crucial to getting past Nadal.

Rafa takes the 'W.' Specially in Madrid. No doubt about it.

zcess81
10-18-2007, 09:44 AM
If Murray doesn't serve well (over 60% first serve) he has no chance. Also, when you play Nadal you have to stay with him in every point. We all know what a great competitor he is. Murray, I'm not so sure. When things are going his way he can beat anyone, but when things are not going his way, well, more often than not, he crumbles. What separates good players from great ones is that ability to win when you don't play well. Federer has it, Rafael has it, Novak has it...Murray, well we'll see, but I'm not convinced yet.

t0x
10-18-2007, 10:15 AM
Nadal is fresh and fired up playing in Spain...

Unless Murray has a good serving day (which, lets face it, doesn't happen often enough) he's going down in SS.

adee-gee
10-18-2007, 10:39 AM
Since we almost always can rely on good ole Muzza to reach the moment in a big(gish) match when he decides he'd rather be home making patchwork quilts and singing duets with his canary, I go with Rafa.

Ummm....what? :scratch:

adee-gee
10-18-2007, 10:40 AM
OTOH, yeah, Murray is a shot-maker with little to nothing lacking in his repertoire..'.cept for the movement that is oh so very crucial to getting past Nadal.

Murray's movement is great, it's helped by his remarkable anticipation as to where his opponent will hit the ball. His movement isn't a problem at all.

Byrd
10-18-2007, 10:41 AM
Muzza probably has one of a handful of backhands on the tour that can really trouble the pig big time, plus the forehand and serve are really coming on. Murray in two tight sets or 3.

Alonsofz
10-18-2007, 11:38 AM
Murray 6-4 1-6 6-3

yana
10-18-2007, 12:01 PM
Andrew Muzza 6-1 6-0

:sad: you're heartless

Murraymaniac
10-18-2007, 12:03 PM
Andy usually raises his game against the big players. It will be easier to defeat Rafa over three sets than over five sets, as it takes a lot of intensity to compete with him.

I'll go for Andy in three, although it really could go either way!

Iván
10-18-2007, 12:06 PM
Nadal in 3 tight sets.

Mentally i do not believe murray is ready yet.

mineralwater
10-18-2007, 12:12 PM
would love Murray to win but can't see it happening just yet. Not sure he can keep up the intensity against Raf who is playing at home. As Murray said after the last match, if he was to play Raf he wants to see where he against the top players. Think he'll be close but not enough for the W.

Really hope am wrong!

gjr
10-18-2007, 01:11 PM
If they both play well Rafa should win (although not comfortable). Not sure on Rafa's form has he's only played once since USO. Murray looks to be back in good shape but even though he has won easy against the 2 blokes this week, you would expect Rafa to do the same.

I voted Murray but I am biased. He needs to bring the form he has where Rafa could possibly win without his best game.

:)

aeronatasha
10-18-2007, 03:10 PM
I'd say Nadal will grind it out.

mangoes
10-18-2007, 03:56 PM
Yes, Murray has a chance..........but, this match belongs to Nadal in straight sets. Nadal has surely heard the buzz.....he'll come out ready for Murray. Plus, what are the chance that Murray will have an amazing serving day? Low. Nevertheless, I will be completely happy if Murray wins when considering those ranking points:lol: :lol:

Apemant
10-18-2007, 04:01 PM
If Murray doesn't serve well (over 60% first serve) he has no chance. Also, when you play Nadal you have to stay with him in every point. We all know what a great competitor he is. Murray, I'm not so sure. When things are going his way he can beat anyone, but when things are not going his way, well, more often than not, he crumbles. What separates good players from great ones is that ability to win when you don't play well. Federer has it, Rafael has it, Novak has it...Murray, well we'll see, but I'm not convinced yet.

Well said, but you know, Federer actually didn't have it to begin with. He developed it later, unlike Nole and Rafa who seem to be born with it. I guess Murray will have to develop it too, if he intends to do something big in his career.

Adler
10-18-2007, 04:13 PM
Rafa will take it, home background will move him to the next round because Muzza tends to get angry and so on

Exodus
10-18-2007, 07:17 PM
murray in two sets won't even be a fight

trixtah
10-18-2007, 08:45 PM
Goodness...this match is turning out some high quality stuff...

Sunset of Age
10-18-2007, 08:50 PM
Excellent, very tough match so far! :worship:

cmurray
10-18-2007, 08:51 PM
Goodness...this match is turning out some high quality stuff...

I am giddy that they're both playing so well. Oh how I wish they were on opposite sides of the draw....

Cat123
10-18-2007, 08:52 PM
This match is stunning!!! 5 breaks in a row?! Both boys are playing spectacularly, it's a tough one to call. Murray has had more chances just hasn't taken them. I'd say Rafa to win, he's played when it's counted so far. It's why he's a grand slam champion.

I've paid a 24hour subscription to ATP masters to watch this. It's worth every penny!!