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it's official, nobody wants to TMC

mr_burns
10-17-2007, 03:12 PM
Just amazing, nearly all the contenderst lost. So it will be tough till the end.
Even Ferrer isn't safe with this 1 point from madrid

silverwhite
10-17-2007, 03:16 PM
They want it too much.

Gasquet is struggling with PHM right now. :o

stebs
10-17-2007, 03:20 PM
They want it too much.

Gasquet is struggling with PHM right now. :o

PHM is hitting a lot of winners.

Horatio Caine
10-17-2007, 03:24 PM
Not strictly true just yet. ;)

Still got Robredo, Blake, Gasquet and Ljubo to finish their matches today (out of the immediate contenders).

What I think is excellent is that we could have some of the lesser contenders standing on a near equal footing with the likes of Haas, Berdych and Moya in a matter of days. How exciting would it be if 8 players were competing for the final places, in Paris?!! :eek: :banana:

silverwhite
10-17-2007, 03:39 PM
PHM leads 7-6

mr_burns
10-17-2007, 03:43 PM
I am quite sure blake will manage to lose against ancic

Hopefully everybody is in action next week, couldn't find carlos and haas
maybe they will ask for a WC

rocketassist
10-17-2007, 04:00 PM
Blake Gonzo and Boredo are still in. I fancy Blake and Gonzo to take the two spots if they have a good week.

vincayou
10-17-2007, 04:07 PM
PHM is hitting a lot of winners.

Gasquet waited PHM to lose the set, waiting 2nd balls on break points 30 yards behind the baseline. PHM got a bit lucky (painting the lines) in the tie break and won the first set.

Richie way way way too defensive... he should have won the first set and now he's in trouble.

El Legenda
10-17-2007, 04:40 PM
Gasgay lost :lol: now Ancic needs to beat Flake and Ljubo is back in it

Andre♥
10-17-2007, 04:44 PM
Boredo will win and go to Shanghai again! :lol:

scoobs
10-17-2007, 04:45 PM
They are choking like betches.

scarecrows
10-17-2007, 04:46 PM
Boredo again :hysteric:

scoobs
10-17-2007, 04:48 PM
wouldn't surprise me - so many of them seem determined to decline the invitation. Last year Robredo remained strong enough to take the spot, he could well do the same again.

stebs
10-17-2007, 04:48 PM
If this keeps up then guys coming from way back like Murray will actually have a shot at this thing.

Or Levy
10-17-2007, 04:49 PM
Gonzo now has a wide open draw.

And I don't fancy Richard chances if he has to fight for anything meaningful in Paris, of all places.

nolop
10-17-2007, 04:51 PM
more chances for fernando. :)

spriwi
10-17-2007, 04:51 PM
:sad: i hope boredo wont book his spot :unsure:

Apemant
10-17-2007, 05:01 PM
Gasgay lost :lol: now Ancic needs to beat Flake and Ljubo is back in it

... unless he loses to el Fashionista as well. With his current form, isn't not at all unlikely.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
10-17-2007, 05:07 PM
Fena and Ivan,pls don't miss the chance.

Purple Rainbow
10-17-2007, 05:20 PM
Watch MTF go crazy when Monaco somehow sneaks into the 8th spot!

mineralwater
10-17-2007, 05:24 PM
As soon as the players are in contention - they all get their knickers in a twist and lose. Whats the problem with going to Shanghai?

mr_burns
10-17-2007, 05:24 PM
Watch MTF go crazy when Monaco somehow sneaks into the 8th spot!

nearly evrybody could make it with two weekend perfomances at Madrid and Paris...

Nalbadian will win both:devil:

scarecrows
10-17-2007, 05:28 PM
Blake to join the list soon

Deathless Mortal
10-17-2007, 05:30 PM
I'm pretty sure Gonzalez will qualify
And hopefully Ivan takes his chance today and beats Koubek, and Lopez tomorrow.

ufokart
10-17-2007, 05:47 PM
Blake lost the first set :haha:

rofe
10-17-2007, 05:49 PM
:sad: i hope boredo wont book his spot :unsure:

Hahaha, I don't care much for his game but after seeing posts like yours, I would enjoy it if he books a spot.

Tommy fan
10-17-2007, 05:52 PM
Tommy (Haas..) :mad:
You Should be in Madrid! if Ljubicic, Blake and Robredo will be there instead of him...:o

Blue Heart24
10-17-2007, 06:00 PM
Vamos JMDP

Adler
10-17-2007, 06:07 PM
They all play crap here, just like last year. It's those ballgirls I think

Blake is out, now the situation looks really hilarious

strastib
10-17-2007, 06:20 PM
this tournament is so funny :lol: :lol: Blake've just lost ^^...
INCREDIBLE

ufokart
10-17-2007, 06:23 PM
Robredo and Ljubicic in Shangai :rocker2:



:p :rolls:

Apemant
10-17-2007, 06:24 PM
They all play crap here, just like last year. It's those ballgirls I think


Yup... Novak was actually flirting with one of them :eek: :worship:
Hillarious.. I guess ppl with lower self-esteem get really nervous though :devil:

LinkMage
10-17-2007, 06:26 PM
Ugh, at this rate Boredo will qualify to Shanghai.

I want to puke.

Schu
10-17-2007, 06:32 PM
Robredo and Ljubicic in Shangai :rocker2:



:p :rolls:


What a nightmare that would be. There's still hope that they will crumble too.

Alex999
10-17-2007, 06:33 PM
Yup... Novak was actually flirting with one of them :eek: :worship:
Hillarious.. I guess ppl with lower self-esteem get really nervous though :devil:

That was funny. Novak accidentally hit a ball girl. Than he gave her a hug. His face expression was priceless.

Henry Chinaski
10-17-2007, 06:34 PM
Choking for China, the hilarious new comedy from ATP productions.

ufokart
10-17-2007, 06:39 PM
What a nightmare that would be. There's still hope that they will crumble too.

Yeah, ANOTHER nightmare, considering they were in last year :scared: :rolls:

Rumour
10-17-2007, 06:52 PM
Choking for China, the hilarious new comedy from ATP productions.
:lol:

Actually, the last few days have yielded amusing results from the two sports I'm actively following right now, ATP and the NHL. Chokes and tanks here, blown leads (including one from 4-0) and own goals in OT there... No need to watch movie comedies or TV sitcoms when athletes decide to put on such funny performances :o ;)

ASP0315
10-17-2007, 07:09 PM
this is just hillarious.


i hope karlovic tries for that for that alternative spot. I know it is impossible for him to qualify but i'll fancy his chances in case he does well in madrid and paris.

ChinoRios4Ever
10-17-2007, 07:12 PM
what happens here... all the people losing :o

clown era?

Black Adam
10-17-2007, 07:13 PM
Robredo and Ljubicic in Shangai :rocker2:



:p :rolls:
Nothing to celebrate. Better players attending would make it more interesting. Those guys are everybody's bitches and would just have their arses handed to them.

ufokart
10-17-2007, 07:14 PM
:haha:

At this rate Berlocq is going to qualify for Shangai :rocker2: :rolls:

rocketassist
10-17-2007, 07:15 PM
what happens here... all the people losing :o

clown era?

Mug era.

scoobs
10-17-2007, 07:15 PM
Nothing to celebrate. Better players attending would make it more interesting. Those guys are everybody's bitches and would just have their arses handed to them.

Yes but there's a reason about 14 players could still technically qualify for the last 2 or 3 spots - there are no better players, not consistently, for one reason or another.

Deathless Mortal
10-17-2007, 07:15 PM
Ljubo :(

DrJules
10-17-2007, 07:21 PM
Ugh, at this rate Boredo will qualify to Shanghai.

I want to puke.

Hopefull if Robredo qualifies he will put the effort needed to win a live match.

rocketassist
10-17-2007, 07:25 PM
JMDP can still save this TMC from being ruined.

trixtah
10-17-2007, 07:26 PM
JMDP can still save this TMC from being ruined.

:eek:

Rumour
10-17-2007, 07:28 PM
Yes but there's a reason about 14 players could still technically qualify for the last 2 or 3 spots - there are no better players, not consistently, for one reason or another.
Exactly, which is why I don't get all the 'Boredo' bitching :rolleyes: Not that I wouldn't prefer some other 'more talented' player to make Shanghai in his place but when so many of them keep losing matches they usually shouldn't, why should Robredo be faulted for rightfully earning a spot - regardless of how competitive the Spaniard is once he gets there?

rocketassist
10-17-2007, 07:29 PM
:eek:

Well duh like he's going to qualify, but by winning tonight he can do the TMC a massive favour.

ChinoRios4Ever
10-17-2007, 07:42 PM
Mug era.

The word of the month :p

it's clearly a Mug and a clown era :rolls:

strastib
10-17-2007, 08:55 PM
Let's add Ljubicic to the list !!! lol

Rogiman
10-17-2007, 08:58 PM
On the bright side, Paris is going to be a dogfight :)

Schu
10-17-2007, 08:59 PM
Another one bites the dust - Ljubicic.

One more to go - Vamos Del Porto.

Schu
10-17-2007, 08:59 PM
On the bright side, Paris is going to be a dogfight :)

Or a choker fest.

willrock
10-17-2007, 10:37 PM
I want so bad JMDP to win in 3 sets so that Gasquet still stands a chance to go to TMC
*crossed fingers*

ufokart
10-17-2007, 10:51 PM
Del potro broke Robredo in the third :lol:

Unless he chokes this day should get even funnier :haha:

leng jai
10-17-2007, 10:52 PM
They're all losing to spite MTF by forcing them to watch another TMC with Boredo getting cained despite his Alex Corretjaesque backhand.

scarecrows
10-17-2007, 10:53 PM
come on Juan :D

rocketassist
10-17-2007, 10:54 PM
He isn't winning this match.

scarecrows
10-17-2007, 10:56 PM
He isn't winning this match.

yes, he's too big choker and Boredo is too big fighter

mr_burns
10-17-2007, 11:36 PM
what a day...When I started the post only two contenders have lost

Now we have:
Ferrer
Robredo
Blake
Lubo
Moya
Berdych
Gasquet
and Haas from yesterday


Only Mr slump won a match, amazing

CyBorg
10-17-2007, 11:48 PM
Although Davydenko's a lock he also lost and Roddick isn't in Madrid. We have a bunch of guys left who can make a big push in the rankings all of a sudden.

switz
10-17-2007, 11:52 PM
Gasquet is the only one who i would say didn't have a bad loss. I kind of expected him to lose to PHM on this surface. Losing to Nalbandian in general would not be so bad for Berdych either but obviously the way he lost made it terrible. i reckon whoever performs better in a smaller tournament after Madrid will make it. I don't see any on these guys going far in Paris without an easy draw.

Merton
10-18-2007, 12:03 AM
That was like Saint Bartholomew's day massacre, with the TMC contenders playing the role of the Hugenot princes.

scoobs
10-18-2007, 12:06 AM
We still have the possibility that a guy who hasn't been past the second round all year at Slams, nor past R3 in TMS events prior to Madrid, could still make Shanghai - Karlovic.

Which is pretty ridiculous.

Merton
10-18-2007, 12:08 AM
There is nothing ridiculous about a ranking/qualification system, the top-8 deserve to go by definition, that is all there is to it.

scoobs
10-18-2007, 12:09 AM
There is nothing ridiculous about a ranking/qualification system, the top-8 deserve to go by definition, that is all there is to it.
If you say so....

LocoPorElTenis
10-18-2007, 12:15 AM
We still have the possibility that a guy who hasn't been past the second round all year at Slams, nor past R3 in TMS events prior to Madrid, could still make Shanghai - Karlovic.

Which is pretty ridiculous.

Karlovic can only make it by going very far in both Madrid of Paris. So if he makes it, he will have done very well at two MS, plus good performances at optionals. With the three top players winning almost every big tourney, there are not that many points left for all the other players, and it is expected that the lower qualifiers for Shanghai will not have a very stellar record - but they are still better than everyone else who didn't qualify.

Jimnik
10-18-2007, 12:19 AM
We still have the possibility that a guy who hasn't been past the second round all year at Slams, nor past R3 in TMS events prior to Madrid, could still make Shanghai - Karlovic.

Which is pretty ridiculous.
I think you over-estimate Karlovic's chances. Even if he made the SF here, which would be by far his best ever result at a TMS, he still neeeds to beat Federer and/or make another SF appearance in Paris. On top of that, he needs all the players above him to keep losing.

scoobs
10-18-2007, 12:22 AM
Karlovic can only make it by going very far in both Madrid of Paris. So if he makes it, he will have done very well at two MS, plus good performances at optionals. With the three top players winning almost every big tourney, there are not that many points left for all the other players, and it is expected that the lower qualifiers for Shanghai will not have a very stellar record - but they are still better than everyone else who didn't qualify.
Oh I agree - I'm not having a go at Karlovic or the system.

More expressing dismay at the rest of the top 20 for crumbling like this. Outside Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, hardly anyone has asserted themselves this season for any length of time whatsoever. We have a big 3, with Davydenko a respectable 4th, and then it's pretty much bedlam further down with a bunch of players exchanging places in and out of the top 10 as their form improves and then suffers.

It makes for an interesting end to the race to Shanghai but I'm not sure it'll make for a very interesting TMC - there'll be cannon fodder.

leng jai
10-18-2007, 12:26 AM
Oh I agree - I'm not having a go at Karlovic or the system.

More expressing dismay at the rest of the top 20 for crumbling like this. Outside Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, hardly anyone has asserted themselves this season for any length of time whatsoever. We have a big 3, with Davydenko a respectable 4th, and then it's pretty much bedlam further down with a bunch of players exchanging places in and out of the top 10 as their form improves and then suffers.

It makes for an interesting end to the race to Shanghai but I'm not sure it'll make for a very interesting TMC - there'll be cannon fodder.

The whole tour has been Cannon Fodder since 2004...

ASP0315
10-18-2007, 02:59 AM
I think you over-estimate Karlovic's chances. Even if he made the SF here, which would be by far his best ever result at a TMS, he still neeeds to beat Federer and/or make another SF appearance in Paris. On top of that, he needs all the players above him to keep losing.

i agree it is realistically impossible for karlovic to qualify. Mathemetically possible.

Anyway top ten players(other than federer,nadal and djvokovic.) are vulnerable players and could be beaten by any players ranked outside 50 at themoment. :lol:

TheBrainiac
10-18-2007, 03:08 AM
Andy Murray wants to :worship:

http://p3.focus.de/img/gen/m/0/HBm0U3zZ_Pxgen_r_380xA.jpg

RAFA U BETTA BE READY FOR THIS !

crouching
10-23-2007, 03:04 PM
Still nobody seems to want to TMC

Ferrer and Chela have already lost in Basel

Haas withdrew from and Robredo lost in Lyon

CmonAussie
10-23-2007, 03:08 PM
Still nobody seems to want to TMC

Ferrer and Chela have already lost in Basel

Haas withdrew from and Robredo lost in Lyon


that`s because they heard TMC was being renamed WTF:p
in fact nobody may show up in Shanghai, because they don`t wont to be associated with WTF:devil:

krakenzero
10-23-2007, 04:43 PM
:p :p WTF is happening here, you could say?

shotgun
11-01-2007, 01:53 AM
Looks like this week is the other way around. Out of the players in contention for the last two spots, only a select few lost their R32 matches in Paris.

Merton
11-01-2007, 02:30 AM
It is good that some contenders will be eliminated directly from their rivals, for example we have Gasquet-Blake tomorrow.