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question - how many players won after losing the first set 6:0?

amirbachar
10-13-2007, 02:15 PM
in a best of 3 sets match, and for comparasion how many players lost?

Andres Guazzelli
10-31-2007, 09:24 PM
Gaudio def. Nadal 0-6, 6-0, 6-1 in 2005.

Caralimon
11-03-2007, 07:25 AM
Kuerten d. Cañas 06 61 62 Buenos Aires 2001

Action Jackson
11-03-2007, 07:40 AM
Robredo def Murray 0-6 6-2 6-3 in Metz 2007
Koubek def Calleri 0-6 7-6(3) 7-5 in Sopot 2007

Voo de Mar
11-03-2007, 09:33 AM
More interesting question is: who has won the most matches after losing first set 0-6? I don't know :p
My favourite player (Krajicek) did it twice:
Chang 0-6 7-6 7-6 (LA 1993)
Edberg 0-6 6-4 6-2 (MC 1996)

I saw both matches :angel:

Tennis-Engineer
11-03-2007, 06:00 PM
Nalbandian in RG 2005 against Baghdatis : 0-6,6-4,6-4,6-4

ExcaliburII
12-21-2007, 10:17 PM
Viña2007: Massu def Roitman 0-6 7-6 ret

Voo de Mar
12-21-2007, 11:12 PM
Something different but I think also interesting... I'd been studying all Grand Slam results from the Open Era in the past and I've found only one match in which the winner lost two sets in a row 0-6. It was at Roland Garros '69: Stanley Mathews def. Ilie Nastase 6-3 0-6 0-6 6-4 8-6 (1st round).

NYCtennisfan
12-23-2007, 03:18 AM
Borg was a master of this, but mostly in best of 5. I think he lost 4 or 5 other times when he lost the first set 0-6 n best of 3.

Defeated Kodes 0-6 9-7 7-5 QF 1974 Barca


Defeated J.S. Connors 0-6 4-6 6-3 6-0 6-4 1981 SF Wimby
Defeated Bedel 0-6 6-0 6-4 7-5 1976 RG
Defeated Filliol Jr. 0-6 6-4 6-4 6-3 1975 Wimby
Defeated Van Dillen 0-6 6-3 6-3 5-7 6-3 1974 RG

NYCtennisfan
12-23-2007, 03:20 AM
Agassi

defeated Kulti 0-6 7-5 6-3 1994 Stockholm
defeated Mronz 0-6 6-4 6-2 1988 Boston
defeated Perforns 0-6 6-2 6-2 1988 IW

NYCtennisfan
12-23-2007, 03:23 AM
Lendl

Defeated Rodolphe Gilbert 0-6 6-3 6-2 1994 Schenectady,

NYCtennisfan
12-23-2007, 03:25 AM
Becker

Defeated Leconte 0-6 6-1 6-1 1986 Masters

NYCtennisfan
12-23-2007, 03:27 AM
Edberg

Defeated Maurer 0-6 6-4 6-3 1986 MC

NYCtennisfan
12-23-2007, 03:29 AM
Wilander

Defeated Jaite 0-6 7-5 6-0 1987 Boston
Defeated Sundstrom 0-6 7-6 6-1 1984 Barca

NYCtennisfan
12-23-2007, 03:34 AM
Vilas

Defeated Connors 0-6 6-2 6-4 1982 F Rotterdam
Defeated Dibley 0-6 6-2 6-4 1977 Springfield

NYCtennisfan
12-23-2007, 03:39 AM
Guga

Defeated Canas 0-6 6-1 6-2 2001 Buenos Aires
Defeated Kafelnikov 0-6 7-6(4) 6-3 1999 IW

NYCtennisfan
12-23-2007, 03:43 AM
Chang

Defeated Sanchez 0-6 6-4 6-1 1992 IW

NYCtennisfan
12-23-2007, 03:44 AM
Rios

Defeated Pavel 0-6 6-4 7-6(6) 1999 MC
Defeated Rafter 0-6 7-6(4) 6-1 1996 Toronto

NYCtennisfan
12-23-2007, 10:47 PM
McEnroe

Defeated Taygan 0-6 6-4 6-1 1980 Memphis

Jimnik
12-24-2007, 09:47 AM
Ferrero

def Koubek 0-6 6-3 6-2, 2005 Cincy

azza
12-25-2007, 04:51 AM
Ferrer Def Agasassi 0-6 7-6(5) 6-4 lol lol i think 03 or 04 Monte Carlo? one of the clay masterz

Voo de Mar
12-25-2007, 11:10 AM
Ferrer Def Agasassi 0-6 7-6(5) 6-4 lol lol i think 03 or 04 Monte Carlo? one of the clay masterz

Rome :)

Alonsofz
12-26-2007, 02:26 PM
Schwank d. Aranguren 0-6 7-5 6-0 in an argentinian future, Aranguren was leading 6-0 *5-0 :spit:

Voo de Mar
12-26-2007, 02:41 PM
Schwank d. Aranguren 0-6 7-5 6-0 in an argentinian future, Aranguren was leading 6-0 *5-0 :spit:

:lol: My friend from tennis had told me once that he won a match after identical scoreline being 0-6 0:5 down. I thought it's possible only in amateurish tennis :spit:

Wilander also defeated Jaite 0-6 7-5 6-0, at Boston semifinal 1987.

Jaite was *5:3 (30-15) up in the second set.

stebs
12-29-2007, 11:33 PM
:lol: My friend from tennis had told me once that he won a match after identical scoreline being 0-6 0:5 down. I thought it's possible only in amateurish tennis :spit:

Wilander also defeated Jaite 0-6 7-5 6-0, at Boston semifinal 1987.

Jaite was *5:3 (30-15) up in the second set.

Koubek def Calleri 0-6 7-6(3) 7-5 in Sopot 2007. As GWH posted. Calleri lead 4-0 in the second I believe. :tape: I guess he started playing ameuteurish tennis though.

Neely
02-12-2008, 09:35 AM
It's about 400 matches in which this happened, not counting Futures and Challengers and qualies (with Futures and Challengers included it would increase to about 1000).

Download summary PDF file:
http://rapidshare.com/files/91142527/0-6wins.pdf



Wins after losing the first set 0-6

Bjorn Borg 5
Thomas Muster 5
Alex Metreveli 4
Fernando Vicente 4
Gaston Gaudio 4
Harold Solomon 4
John Lloyd 4
Mark Woodforde 4
Marty Riessen 4
Alex Antonitsch 3
Andre Agassi 3
Claudio Panatta 3
Georges Goven 3
Guillermo Vilas 3
Jakob Hlasek 3
Jeff Borowiak 3
Kim Warwick 3
Mats Wilander 3
Paul Haarhuis 3
Razvan Sabau 3
Thomas Enqvist 3
Vijay Amritraj 3

stebs
02-12-2008, 08:06 PM
Thanks for these Neely.

Best result may be this one:

Zugarelli def. Feaver 0-6 1-6 6-2 6-3 6-4

Not only is it coming back from winning just a game in two sets but also numerically nice (sets won to 0, 1, 2, 3, 4).

Lots of other interesting results such as 0-6 6-1 6-0 and 0-6 7-6 7-6 also.

Only twice has a player lost the first set 0-6 and come back to win in a five set final. Barcelona '85 and the famous RG final between Coria and Gaudio.

Tennis-Engineer
02-13-2008, 06:53 PM
Matthias Bachinger (GER) def Donald Young (USA) 0-6 7-5 6-3 in Louisville challenger final 2007.

Henry Chinaski
03-14-2008, 01:18 AM
IW 2008 R1 qualies

Fognini d. Warburg 0-6, 7-6(2), 6-2

TenArg
04-27-2008, 10:26 PM
Here is the link for SteveG's Results. It shows the last 400 weeks only for singles. Includes challengers and futures:

http://steveghelper.com/MatchResults.php?countries=&players=%29+0-6&weektype=this&weeks=400&from_date=&weeks_back=&matches=singles

amirbachar
04-28-2008, 09:58 PM
It's about 400 matches in which this happened, not counting Futures and Challengers and qualies (with Futures and Challengers included it would increase to about 1000).

Download summary PDF file:
http://rapidshare.com/files/91142527/0-6wins.pdf



Thanks.

Where did you get the information from? Do you know how many first sets have finished 6:0 overall?

amirbachar
04-28-2008, 11:17 PM
Here is the link for SteveG's Results. It shows the last 400 weeks only for singles. Includes challengers and futures:

http://steveghelper.com/MatchResults.php?countries=&players=%29+0-6&weektype=this&weeks=400&from_date=&weeks_back=&matches=singles

Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for.
The result (I checked results of ATP tournements from 2007):
Best of 3 - 5 wins and 52 losses after 0:6 (and only 4 of them in 3 sets). That's about 9%.
Best of 5 - 2 wins (1 in 4 sets and 1 in 5 sets) and 12 losses (7 in 3 sets, 5 in 4 sets and not even one in 5 sets). That's about 14%.
Overall 7 wins and 64 and that's about 10%.


In 2008 so far:
Best of 3 - 9 losses (all in straight sets).
Best of 5 - 9 losses (8 in straight sets and 1 in 4 sets).
Amazingly, no-one has return from 0-6 to win the match in 2008.

Neely
04-29-2008, 08:25 PM
Thanks.

Where did you get the information from? Do you know how many first sets have finished 6:0 overall?
It was from my own database which has the official ATP page as a source.

Regarding your 2nd question, from 1968 to the end of 2007 I have about 12,213 matches with a 6-0 first set score result.





Frequency table of a 6-0 first set score by category of event.

........................Freq.........Percent...... .Cum.
---------------------------------------------------------
ATP Masters Series........264...........2.16......2.16
CH......................3,003..........24.59.....2 6.75
DC........................256...........2.10.....2 8.85
FU......................5,042..........41.28.....7 0.13
GC..........................4...........0.03.....7 0.16
GP......................2,611..........21.38.....9 1.54
Grand Slam................537...........4.40.....95.94
International Series......350...........2.87.....98.80
International Series Gold..98...........0.80.....99.61
Olympics...................11...........0.09.....9 9.70
WC.........................14...........0.11.....9 9.81
WT.........................23...........0.19....10 0.00
---------------------------------------------------------
Total..................12,213...................10 0.00

amirbachar
04-30-2008, 05:48 PM
WOW, that is very usefull...
Can you check how many players won from 1:6 and how many lost in 2007 please?

Neely
05-01-2008, 02:30 AM
WOW, that is very usefull...
Can you check how many players won from 1:6 and how many lost in 2007 please?
In that scenario 2515 matches were lost (95 retirements included) and 297 matches were won (10 retirements included).

TankingTheSet
02-06-2009, 07:43 PM
Bump for Robredo def. Chela today.

Archer16
07-20-2009, 07:38 AM
In 2008 so far:
Best of 3 - 9 losses (all in straight sets).
Best of 5 - 9 losses (8 in straight sets and 1 in 4 sets).
Amazingly, no-one has return from 0-6 to win the match in 2008.
I guess you were only looking for tour matches when you wrote this as you probably remember the Levy-Bjorkman DC match played in February 2008.

Something different but I think also interesting... I'd been studying all Grand Slam results from the Open Era in the past and I've found only one match in which the winner lost two sets in a row 0-6. It was at Roland Garros '69: Stanley Matthews def. Ilie Nastase 6-3 0-6 0-6 6-4 8-6 (1st round).
The only man to get double-bageled and win the match :lol: No wonder he's called the magician :p
But seriously, the familiar name is not a coincidence: he was the son of the famous footballer, and the last British male to win Wimbledon Juniors - that was in 1962. But this match was the highlight of his pro career.

Murraylicious
02-12-2010, 08:40 PM
Davydenko d. R. Nadal 0:6 7:6 6:4 at Doha F
F. Fognini d. M. Granollers 0:6 6:1 7:6 at Brazil Open

Ivanatis
02-17-2010, 12:02 PM
Russell d. Odesnik 0-6 7-5 6-4

Caio_Brasil
02-18-2010, 11:56 AM
Davydenko d. R. Nadal 0:6 7:6 6:4 at Doha F
F. Fognini d. M. Granollers 0:6 6:1 7:6 at Brazil Open

This seems to be Fognini's special. He did the same against Zampieri at the same tournament last year.

Fabio Fognini (ITA) d. (q)Caio Zampieri (BRA) 0-6 7-6(5) 6-2

If my memory doesn't fail, he was 0-6 0-2 down that match.

Ivanatis
02-21-2010, 02:36 AM
How about losing the 1st two sets 0-6 at a GS- or DC-match and still winning in the end? Or is Voo's the closest?

dombrfc
02-27-2010, 11:03 AM
How about losing the 1st two sets 0-6 at a GS- or DC-match and still winning in the end? Or is Voo's the closest?

That ^ and has there been a 6-0 0-6 6-0 0-6 x-x ever?

Ivanatis
03-19-2010, 01:35 AM
probably too weird

I wonder what's more seldom in Best-of-3-matches, winning 1set 6-0 and losing the match or winning 2nd set 6-0 and losing the match (what Baggy managed vs. Robredo:()

V.H.
03-20-2010, 12:15 PM
probably too weird

I wonder what's more seldom in Best-of-3-matches, winning 1set 6-0 and losing the match or winning 2nd set 6-0 and losing the match (what Baggy managed vs. Robredo:()

It's more seldom to win 0-6 in second and still lose the match...