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who's made the tennis rules that...?

mashamaniac
10-13-2007, 01:15 AM
who the fuck has made the rules that allows djokovic spend 20-25 seconds,bouncing the ball 30-35 time on each serving point and disallows nadal wasting 10-15 secs matching socks and picking pants?
i remember at least 10 times watching nadal's matches and umpires immediately give a warning ti him for spending 15 secs behind each serve point...but also remember watching nole spending at least 20-25 secs bouncing ball 30-33 times on break points but still no body warns him!!!?
is there any logical reason for this difference?

JustJames
10-13-2007, 01:19 AM
There is no logical reason for them allowing Djokovic to spend so much time in between points...

There is also no logical reason for the allowing Nadal the same courtesy. [He also regularly takes 20-25 secs between points.]

Your prejudice is not discreet... :yawn:

Burrow
10-13-2007, 01:19 AM
When the hell do they ever warn Nadal?

Hardly ever, when he should be warned constantly.

mashamaniac
10-13-2007, 01:23 AM
i have the tape of wimbly match between rafa-toad when nadal spent exactly 14 secs for serve and umpire warned him...the other one,between nadal-ljubicic in FO 06 and nadal wasted 17 secs and faced a serious warning,
instead have many tapes of nole spending 26-29 secs for serve for many times in a match and no body even complained over that??

JustJames
10-13-2007, 01:29 AM
i have the tape of wimbly match between rafa-toad when nadal spent exactly 14 secs for serve and umpire warned him...the other one,between nadal-ljubicic in FO 06 and nadal wasted 17 secs and faced a serious warning,
instead have many tapes of nole spending 26-29 secs for serve for many times in a match and no body even complained over that??

He received those warnings not due to that one episode but because of the countless times he reached above and beyond the time limit previous to the warning..

Fee
10-13-2007, 01:32 AM
Nole's ball bouncing is part of his service motion, it does not count as part of the time used. He varies the number of times he bounces the ball and no chair umpire is going to warn him in the middle of his motion. Nadal does his routine before he starts his motion and that's why he can get into trouble for it.

This has been discussed before so don't be surprised if this thread gets combined into one of the older ones on this same topic.

JustJames
10-13-2007, 01:33 AM
Nole's ball bouncing is part of his service motion, it does not count as part of the time used. He varies the number of times he bounces the ball and no chair umpire is going to warn him in the middle of his motion. Nadal does his routine before he starts his motion and that's why he can get into trouble for it.

This has been discussed before so don't be surprised if this thread gets combined into one of the older ones on this same topic.

Ah interesting.. I didn't know the reason behind that. Merci Fee.. :yeah:

Allure
10-13-2007, 01:59 AM
Both Nadal and Djokovic are tools.

Corey Feldman
10-13-2007, 02:56 AM
I find my head bobbing up and down watching it sometimes, like im being hypnotized by him.

cmurray
10-13-2007, 03:01 AM
I find my head bobbing up and down watching it sometimes, like im being hypnotized by him.

It makes my eyes glaze over. Maybe that's the secret to Nole's success.

GlennMirnyi
10-13-2007, 04:26 AM
who the fuck has made the rules that allows djokovic spend 20-25 seconds,bouncing the ball 30-35 time on each serving point and disallows nadal wasting 10-15 secs matching socks and picking pants?
i remember at least 10 times watching nadal's matches and umpires immediately give a warning ti him for spending 15 secs behind each serve point...but also remember watching nole spending at least 20-25 secs bouncing ball 30-33 times on break points but still no body warns him!!!?
is there any logical reason for this difference?

Nadal takes a minute to serve in every BP. Don't be a clown.

Both Nadal and Djokovic are tools.

True.

Allure
10-13-2007, 04:55 AM
Nadal takes a minute to serve in every BP. Don't be a clown.



True.

He takes that long to serve to give his opponents time to go to the bathroom. He's a nice guy. :shrug:

Aerion
10-13-2007, 05:05 AM
Nadal also takes extra time to pick at his pants....
So it evens out... :devil:

Corey Feldman
10-13-2007, 05:06 AM
Raffy needs that time to pull his panties out of that special butt of his, anything that keeps him happy :p

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sehrgrosse/large-smiley-047.gif

groundstroke
10-13-2007, 12:59 PM
Both shouldn't spent that much time.

keka
10-13-2007, 01:18 PM
he doesn't spend THAT long...and it's just part of his game, i don't think he's trying to piss anyone off...i hope not :S

leng jai
10-13-2007, 01:21 PM
Both Nadal and Djokovic are tools.

Truth.

kabuki
10-13-2007, 01:46 PM
The ball bouncing often makes his matches unwatchable for me. The thing that bugs me is that it's so variable, between 8-35 times. Makes it seem contrived to me.

my0118
10-13-2007, 01:52 PM
The ball bouncing often makes his matches unwatchable for me. The thing that bugs me is that it's so variable, between 8-35 times. Makes it seem contrived to me.

Agreed.
Djoko now makes his ball bouncing more slowly than he used to, but it's still annoying.

Mike Kim
10-13-2007, 02:12 PM
He has the worst habit in tennis, he is almost as bad as Agassi was :tape: Not only does CockoDjoko irritate you with his ball bouncing, it is used as a tactic and depending on the score and state of play, he will employ it more to break up an opponents play or irritate them on purpose. This is much the same as with his timeouts and faked injuries. Dirty dirty player, he only gets away with it because he is an ass kisser who poses around and thinks he is the next comedian of the ATP tour. He doesn't realise that people laugh with pity, instead of humour.

ezekiel
10-13-2007, 02:13 PM
it's annoying because it's new especially on hard surface and you hear the bounces but we all should get used to it as he is here to stay and the rest of his game is beautiful. What he is doing is concentrating and trying to build a point mentally so he can't rush that .

Allstar
10-13-2007, 07:26 PM
I remember Gerry Armstrong warning Nadal before a match at Queens, Rafa was rather pissed off :lol:. Didnt stop him breaking the rules though and getting away with it that day, like everyday...

jonas
10-13-2007, 08:10 PM
A thought: In the US Open final against Fed, Nole didn't bounce more than ten times one single time throughout the match. True?

I like Nole, but I agree his ball bouncing can be ridiculous at times.

Heavenseventeen
10-13-2007, 09:45 PM
Is 15 seconds that long? If it's on his serve, he should be able to take as long as he wants. Why rush things? What about people who want a certain ball back? They waste time too. Nadal pulling up his socks hurts no one so why is it a problem?

sawan66278
10-13-2007, 09:59 PM
He received those warnings not due to that one episode but because of the countless times he reached above and beyond the time limit previous to the warning...

True...so true...I have NEVER, EVER seen Darth Cheater cited for time violations. He has no set pattern, and CLEARLY uses this tactic to upset the returners rhythm. Or to get rest. Why does he bounce the ball 8 times once in a while; other times 29 to 30 times? Because there is "method to the madness": its called cheating.

Its funny...because what Nadal does is consistent. He goes through pretty much the same routine every time. I think it is more for his concentration...and partly because he seems to suffer from obsessive/compulsive disorder (see how each water bottle has to be placed down PERFECTLY). Does this excuse his actions? No...but I don't think it is has the same dark malice behind it. Ivan Lendl used to implement Rafa's tactics ALL the time...Brad Gilbert actually calls it "turtle time".

I wait for the day when the other players on tour unite and take care of this once and for all.

Johnny Groove
10-13-2007, 10:41 PM
Stop bitching, people, good lord

JustJames
10-13-2007, 10:48 PM
Stop bitching, people, good lord

Bitching? :scratch: It's called a discussion.. It's what the board is for. If people didn't "bitch" there would be few non match score threads in GM...

Johnny Groove
10-13-2007, 10:51 PM
Bitching? :scratch: It's called a discussion.. It's what the board is for. If people didn't "bitch" there would be few non match score threads in GM...

:lol:

A discussion is one thing, complaining that 2 certain players DONT get time violations is bitching

JustJames
10-13-2007, 10:53 PM
:lol:

A discussion is one thing, complaining that 2 certain players DONT get time violations is bitching

So what would you rather us discuss? Who is the GOAT? Who is the REAL No1? When will Nadal catch Federer? :yawn:

And threads that get slightly out of hand and "bitchy" are funniest.. :p

Johnny Groove
10-13-2007, 11:03 PM
So what would you rather us discuss? Who is the GOAT? Who is the REAL No1? When will Nadal catch Federer? :yawn:

And threads that get slightly out of hand and "bitchy" are funniest.. :p

Until the mods delete them :rolleyes:

But Madrid isnt that far away :)

JustJames
10-13-2007, 11:09 PM
Until the mods delete them :rolleyes:

But Madrid isnt that far away :)

Yes, Nadal playing well/badly on hardcourts always seems to create countless 'discussions'.

Side Note: Will Nadal still be playing dubs despite Hewitt's withdrawal? [I assume that you you know this type of stuff :p ]

Johnny Groove
10-13-2007, 11:14 PM
I think he's playing with Lopez :shrug:

JustJames
10-13-2007, 11:22 PM
I think he's playing with Lopez :shrug:

Makes sense. [thanks.]

RagingLamb
10-14-2007, 01:55 AM
http://www.medgadget.com/archives/img/pacifier.jpg

Peoples
10-14-2007, 02:30 AM
Djoko is a whore.

Corey Feldman
10-14-2007, 02:39 AM
JamesObv .... your siggy pics are brilliant :lol:

player2k0
10-14-2007, 02:47 AM
nadal and djokovic might take the same time in total, but it really isnt the same.
the few seconds right before a serve the receiving player has to be absolutely focused. its incredibly hard to keep up that concentration for up to 20 seconds just because you dont know when the opponent is gonna do the serve. it wouldnt be that much of a problem if djokovic would always bounce the ball 20 times or whatever, but the fact that he varies a lot, doing sth bewteen 5 and 30 bounces leaves the receiving player uncertain so that he has no other choice than keeping up the focus for that long.
this is a serious problem in my opinion since it probably has a huge impact on the outcome of every match djokovic plays.