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Hewitt: Could win title?

Deejay
05-31-2004, 09:30 PM
Lleyton is in the best form of his career on clay and wouldnt be surprised to see him in the final on sunday. I know there is still many top players left in the draw but it will take something really special to defeat him at the moment.

Write him off at your peril!

Horatio Caine
05-31-2004, 09:32 PM
Lleyton is in the best form of his career on clay and wouldnt be surprised to see him in the final on sunday. I know there is still many top players left in the draw but it will take something really special to defeat him at the moment.

Write him off at your peril!


I shall substitute Lleyton in your post, for Henman and that will get exactly the same response...NO!!!

I admit that Hewitt MIGHT make the finals but he will not win the whole thing.

Havok
05-31-2004, 09:33 PM
He's prob playing the best clay cour tennis HE has ever played, but there are still people in the draw who are a heck of a lot more capable on clay than he is. If Lleyton reaches the finals or wins this (he won't do either or) then there's something very weird going on :scared:

tomcat
05-31-2004, 09:34 PM
I have been so impressed with his form at RG, when many wrote off his chances of still being there in second week, I really think he can beat Gaudio and once in the last 4...then who knows...

SaFed2005
05-31-2004, 09:59 PM
If he meets Heman in the finals he will definately win... ;)

Carito_90
05-31-2004, 10:01 PM
No.

TennisLurker
05-31-2004, 10:03 PM
I hewitt wins rg, I get a sexchange and become a lesbian.

star
05-31-2004, 10:03 PM
I would love for Lleyton to win Roland Garros. :)

He's my third favorite to win. :lol:

If he meets Guga in the final, he's gotta lose, but if it is anyone else, GO LLEYTON!!!!

Deejay
05-31-2004, 10:04 PM
A thing that could work in favour of Hewitt of at least getting to the finals is the fact the the other quarter, Kuerten vs Nalbandian is highly unlikely to be a straight sets match(both on top form), and if it is a long gruelling match and Guga wins it (which is again very possible) his suspect hip is likely to be under severe strain and causing him even more pain. Which means that if Hewitt beats Gaudio, which I think he will, he would end up playing a tired/in pain guga and as a result would have a huge advantage. If Nalbandian beats Guga, then it will be an even tougher match for Hewitt, a match he would probably lose but you never know!

TennisLurker
05-31-2004, 10:05 PM
he would meet guga in the semis, star

Socket
05-31-2004, 10:43 PM
Having seen Lleyton beat Guga in straight sets in Brazil (Guga's home town) during DC on red clay, I'm not going to write him off. He might just surprise the doubters.

Fedex
05-31-2004, 11:37 PM
If Nalbandian gets by Guga, he'll CRUSH Hewitt in the semis! :) No Questions.

star
05-31-2004, 11:42 PM
he would meet guga in the semis, star

:rolleyes: Picky details! :lol:

Let's put it this way then: Unless he meets Coria in the finals, I want him to win. GO LLEYTON!!!

:p

alfonsojose
06-01-2004, 12:41 AM
I hewitt wins rg, I get a sexchange and become a lesbian.

And you'll have a Mauresmo pic on your Avatar :tape:

Chloe le Bopper
06-01-2004, 12:42 AM
Hewitt will only beat Gaudio if Gaudio caves under pressure... which is uh, entirely possible.

Action Jackson
06-01-2004, 12:46 AM
The only way Hewitt will beat Gaudio, if Gaudio chokes it away and loses the match, just like Gaston did in Monte Carlo and almost did in Dusseldorf.

The only problem lies if Hewitt and Henman play in the final, then Hewitt will be RG champion, but that won't be happening.

Lisbeth
06-01-2004, 02:28 AM
Even Hewitt is not looking past his next match so I'm certainly not! On paper Gaudio should be the favourite in any clay match, but add in 5 sets, the famous Gaudio patchiness and the almost as famous Hewitt tenacity, and we could have a very interesting match. I wouldn't bet the farm on either of them.

naiwen
06-01-2004, 03:37 AM
Henman and Hewitt really have good draws.

RogiFan88
06-01-2004, 03:37 AM
If Hewitt makes the final v. Coria, I doubt Coria will lose to him, not after losing Hamburg to Rogi... losing a TMS on clay when you're defending the title is one thing; losing your first slam title is quite another... and that thought just doesn't enter GUille's little mind right now.

J. Corwin
06-01-2004, 04:33 AM
I'll give him the possibility of winning one more match.

trixy
06-01-2004, 06:13 AM
Everything on paper says there are to many others who are far better on clay and should win this title but I have this weird feeling that it might not eventuate that way.

On the other hand Gaudio unless he totally chokes should beat Lleyton tonight and I sure hope he does. I dont know why i have such a problem with Lleyton winning but I do ;)

Supersonik
06-01-2004, 06:15 AM
trixy, if you live in Australia which it looks like you do, it's probably because the media will feast on a Hewitt victory and all the Rocky cliches will come out.

dubis016
06-01-2004, 06:20 AM
The Answer is....NO!!

FryslanBoppe
06-01-2004, 06:22 AM
Hewitt will not be winning Roland Garros.

Chloe le Bopper
06-01-2004, 06:31 AM
Even Hewitt is not looking past his next match so I'm certainly not! On paper Gaudio should be the favourite in any clay match, but add in 5 sets, the famous Gaudio patchiness and the almost as famous Hewitt tenacity, and we could have a very interesting match. I wouldn't bet the farm on either of them.
"Gaudio patchiness" has taken on totally new meaning, what with that sorry excuse for facial hair he's been sporting lately.

Chloe le Bopper
06-01-2004, 06:33 AM
Henman and Hewitt really have good draws.
Sure, if they were playing on grass.

Lisbeth
06-01-2004, 08:24 AM
:lol: (at both the above comments).

There's some seriously bad hair (facial and otherwise) around this year. Maybe that ATP University thing needs to introduce a grooming segment.

Trent
06-01-2004, 08:38 AM
Sure, if they were playing on grass.

Couldn't have said it better.

Gandalf
06-01-2004, 09:03 AM
Depends on who he plays. I think that Gaudio can choke the QF match away. If he plays Nalbandian, I think that he can win, but not if he plays Kuerten.

I don't give him much of a chance against Coria or Moya, unless they self-destruct (which is very possible).

joeb_uk
06-01-2004, 10:15 AM
I see gaudio winning this match, but i think it will be a very close match, in 5 sets!

Raul-Lopez
06-01-2004, 10:45 AM
Hewitt can win RG , he already has the best head of the tour. We will see but i think Coria or Moyá take the crowd

sigmagirl91
06-01-2004, 12:30 PM
I would love for Lleyton to win Roland Garros. :)

He's my third favorite to win. :lol:

If he meets Guga in the final, he's gotta lose, but if it is anyone else, GO LLEYTON!!!!

Uh, star....if you looked at the draw, you would see that guga and lleyton would meet in the semis.... :o

star
06-01-2004, 12:44 PM
Yes, I know. Wasn't that a stupid mistake I made. :)

Someone else already pointed it out. You'll see that when you read all the posts. Maybe you will like my amended answer better. Anyway, the short story is that Lleyton is allowed to beat anyone in the draw other than Guga and Coria. :D

Experimentee
06-01-2004, 03:04 PM
It possible that Hewitt will beat Gaudio, but only if he chokes. After that i dont see him beating Guga/David.
He did have an easy draw to get this far, it was only slightly tougher than Henman's :rolleyes:

CmonAussie
06-01-2004, 03:27 PM
It possible that Hewitt will beat Gaudio, but only if he chokes. After that i dont see him beating Guga/David.
He did have an easy draw to get this far, it was only slightly tougher than Henman's :rolleyes:
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Usual bulldust I'm accustomed to hearing~ what do you mean "only if he (Gaudio) chokes"???? :eek:
This year Hewitt & Gaudio have played twice on Clay; Hewitt beat Gaudio in 3-sets at Monte Carlo (yes Gaudio could have won in 2nd set but Lleyton won the 3rd set 6-1... so not even close for the Argentinian in the end). Then two weeks ago the play again at WTC in Dusseldor->> where Gaudio narrowly prevails over Hewitt (it came down to a tie-breaker in the 3rd set where Gaston won narrowly 7-5)...

So there you have it 1/1 on Clay each for these players this year & throw in the fact that this is The FRENCH OPEN & Hewitt is a proven big-match performer; whereas Gaudio makes a GS QF for 1st time; also 5-set matches are a whole different kettle of fish :cool: !
Lleyton's record in 5-set battles is 14/8... what about Gaston :confused: .

Basically the two players are pretty evenly matched on Clay (as this years result indicate~ Hewitt could have won both of them & vice versa); but Lleyton has the Slams/DC/TMC etc. under is belt~~ all that Gaudio has is heaps of talent/potential & two minor titles that he won 2-years ago!

:wavey: Get with reality mate~ Rocky Llegs will probably win this match even if Gaudio plays near his best ;) :p .

Experimentee
06-01-2004, 03:34 PM
Gaudio had big leads in both those matches but he choked. Otherwise he would have won both in straight sets. You cant say for a second that they are evenly matched on clay. Almost as ridiculous as saying Henman is as good as Chela on clay ;)

CmonAussie
06-01-2004, 03:41 PM
PS *@@*

Hewitt's Head-to-head record with remaining Roland Garros Quarterfinalists!!

Lleyton vs:
Gaudio (2/2); Kuerten (2/1); Nalbandian (2/0); Henman (7/0); Moya (4/5); Chela (0/1); Coria (1/0)....
Therefore Hewitt vs remaining RG opponents = 18/9~ 66.67%

* Of course Rocky Llegs has beaten Kuerten the only time they played on Clay (in Brazil); he beat Nalbandian on Clay in Barcelona; he beat Gaudio on Clay in Monte Carlo; he beat Moya on Clay in Dusseldorf & he beat Tiger Tim everywhere(^^)!

BUT of course the only way Hewitt will win FO now is if Gaudio/David/Guga/Moya/Chela/Coria/Henman ALL choke to Lleyton~ that's his only hope; atleast H-to-H & Clay records would indicate that wouldn't they>_<.

Experimentee
06-01-2004, 03:50 PM
Ok if it makes you happy to believe that Hewitt will RG this year, its fine :p

CmonAussie
06-01-2004, 04:01 PM
Ok if it makes you happy to believe that Hewitt will RG this year, its fine :p
:wavey:
Thanks mate; it makes me happy to know Hewitt has a realistic chance of winning FO 2004; though Coria is still favourite I think many people naively underestimate Rocky Llegs potential to win anywhere against anyone~ maybe it's easier to dismiss him because Lleyton's style defies confentional wisdom somewhat :cool: ; then again if you check the stats he's also in with a real shot ;) !

Andrew.
06-01-2004, 08:21 PM
Lleyton has been playing some amazing tennis. I would not be shocked to see him in the final.

tennisathlete
06-01-2004, 08:38 PM
Lleyton is in the best form of his career on clay and wouldnt be surprised to see him in the final on sunday. I know there is still many top players left in the draw but it will take something really special to defeat him at the moment.

Write him off at your peril!

Bets of his career? why isn't he number 1 then?

Shy
06-01-2004, 08:38 PM
No,because I don't want him to win over Gaudio.

CmonAussie
06-01-2004, 10:44 PM
Bets of his career? why isn't he number 1 then?
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Tennisathlete mate you're a bit of a simpleton aren't you :eek: ! *When Hewitt was No.1 he got there because of his hardcourt/grass success-> at that time he still hadn't figured out how to slide on clay. Anyway~ this year Lleyton has already equalled his best ever performance at French Open; & his wins over Melzer/Verkerk/Malisse have been fairly impressive, considering those players have all had good results on Clay this season & other years.

In any case Lleyton is still alive in French Open & of the remaining players left in this year's Draw (Gaudio/Nalbandian/Kuerten/Henman/Coria)~ Hewitt has a leading Head-to-Head will all except Gaudio (tied 2/2)... so when he wins the Title I think he has a good case to say "best of his career (on Clay)" :worship: !

Why are there so many brainless fools :eek: ; educate yourself 'Tennisathlete' :o

Fedex
06-02-2004, 04:19 AM
[QUOTE=CmonAussie:


Why are there so many brainless fools :eek: ; educate yourself 'Tennisathlete' :o[/QUOTE]
Brainless fools??? :( :o A brainless fool is someone who thinks that Hewitt will win RG, is evenly matched with Gaudio on clay(whom choked in both matches that could of been won easily.That 6-1 set was a similar scenario to the Federer DC match. Ran out of gas, mentally, physically), and uses meaningless statistics w/ head 2 heads, and all that crap and say thats why he's gonna win RG. :bs: :rolleyes:
Ok, get this straight: Hewitt is NOT evenly matched with Gaudio on clay, or anyone left in the draw for that matter. Hewitt was very fortunite in the 1st place to have such an easy draw, like Wimbledon a couple of years ago. But even the draw wont get Hewitt by Gaudio, or win him the title! Does pure ability on the surface count for nothing :rolleyes:

PerezRoldan
06-02-2004, 04:28 AM
In reality Gaudio should have never lost a set to Hewitt in any of their matches on clay. Hewitt has great respect for Gaudio's game on clay, more than CmonAussie (the minister) seems to have.

Gaudio somehow managed to lose in Monte Carlo, after leading a set and a break, and had plenty of chances to close out, when it should have been the same in Dusseldorf except he was leading a set and two breaks, but he managed to get through.

Hewitt will not be winning the title, and he can be very proud of himself if he manages to get through this match, but he is not going any further.

WyveN
06-02-2004, 04:53 AM
A brainless fool is someone who thinks that Hewitt will win RG, is evenly matched with Gaudio on clay ), and uses meaningless statistics w/ head 2 heads

Correct, any fool can regurgitate statistics and make a case for just about anything.
It is obvious Hewitt wont be winning the FO no matter what propoganda the minister spits out.

Scotso
06-02-2004, 05:00 AM
kick'em ass'em Llegs!

Scotso
06-02-2004, 05:02 AM
lol... some of these people saying Lleyton has no chance were claiming Roddick can win the French... :lol:

Action Jackson
06-02-2004, 05:05 AM
lol... some of these people saying Lleyton has no chance were claiming Roddick can win the French... :lol:

You better not be including me in this list. I said Roddick will never win a major title on clay.

Scotso
06-02-2004, 05:06 AM
Then quite obviously you are not included.

WyveN
06-02-2004, 05:07 AM
lol... some of these people saying Lleyton has no chance were claiming Roddick can win the French... :lol:

such as who?
and even if someone was, whats your point?

Chloe le Bopper
06-02-2004, 05:10 AM
Basically the two players are pretty evenly matched on Clay

*snorts drink out nose*

Action Jackson
06-02-2004, 05:12 AM
Btw, back on topic Hewitt will not be winning Roland Garros this year.

CmonAussie, you entertaining individual and you are doing a great job as the Lleyton Hewitt Propaganda Minister, this is how it goes. Hewitt has a very good chance and his weapon is Gaudio's major weakness, though he has to get in a position where he can impose that.

If Gaudio plays the way he normally does against Hewitt before the choking sets in, he will come through, but Hewitt has the big match experience in his favour.

Iza
06-02-2004, 05:25 AM
it's unlikely. I don't think he can beat Guga and then Coria. Bothe of them are waaaaay better than Lleyton on clay and he stands no chance against them. Let's say he beats Gaudio and then Kuerten, but no, he won't beat Coria. And if Tim beats Guille, then I believe Tim will beat Lleyton (in case he beats Guga).
though I would like Lleyton to win so that I can see Kim during the matches!

sigmagirl91
06-02-2004, 12:11 PM
Attention: this thread is dead. No Hewitt, no RG....

Lady
06-02-2004, 12:15 PM
:lol:

:tape:

Somehow I knew this thread gonna end up like that ;)
Maybe some will learn that there's no need to start such a threads ;)

WyveN
06-02-2004, 12:18 PM
It is customary on MTF to blow things out of proportion once player X gets to the quarters/semis courtesy of a good draw.

CmonAussie
06-02-2004, 12:20 PM
Well done to Gaudio~~ he played one of his best matches; & especially he was strong on the important points (3rd set alone 5-games went to Deuce^ all of which Gaston eventually won)!!
This was one of Hewitt's most disappointing performances===>>> 43 UE's is particularly poor considering his percentage play is nomally a strength. Also 5-Double Faults which all came at important times didn't help Lleyton.

*The heavy conditions also suited Gaston more BUT what can I say->> never envisaged Hewitt going down so meekly>_<...

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-02-2004, 12:31 PM
Good for Gaudio :), not, I am personally not pleased that he won, and I wont fake it,

as for people predicting Hewitt would win--I didn't think that. But when someone defies the odds, like Henman is doing right now, I think it's okay to have a little faith, even if the faith is a bit radical.

WyveN
06-02-2004, 12:33 PM
This was one of Hewitt's most disappointing performances===>>> 43 UE's is particularly poor considering his percentage play is nomally a strength. Also 5-Double Faults which all came at important times didn't help Lleyton.


eh? When Hewitt put up worse statistics against Malisse/Bennetau all I heard is how Hewitt is going to beat Gaudio, Kuerten and Coria.
Hewitt had 18 winners and 43 unforced errors against the X-Man yet won in straight sets.

CmonAussie
06-02-2004, 12:43 PM
eh? When Hewitt put up worse statistics against Malisse/Bennetau all I heard is how Hewitt is going to beat Gaudio, Kuerten and Coria.
Hewitt had 18 winners and 43 unforced errors against the X-Man yet won in straight sets.
:wavey:
Sorry you're right WyveN mate; obviously you did more research than me this time :cool: .