Stanislas Wawrinka d. David Nalbandian 57 63 61 [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

Stanislas Wawrinka d. David Nalbandian 57 63 61

Klaas_nalbandian
10-11-2007, 01:24 PM
Again an early loss of David, 7 times broken. Guess this is his worst year ever since he reached the wimbly final.

Klaas_nalbandian
10-11-2007, 01:25 PM
hard times for nalby fans

Fergie
10-11-2007, 01:25 PM
Good job Stan! :bigclap:

Frooty_Bazooty
10-11-2007, 01:26 PM
when will this disaster season END!!!!!!!?!?!?!?

LeChuck
10-11-2007, 01:26 PM
David lost 23 out of the 31 points on his 2nd serve, and I only caught this match from the 2nd set onwards, and he was dreadful.
Well done to Stan the man though.

RogiRafaFan86
10-11-2007, 01:27 PM
Following the live score...Nalbandian just completely fell apart. No other way to explain it.

LeChuck
10-11-2007, 01:30 PM
What a dreadful year David has had. He has semi-final points to defend at Madrid next week as well. Thinks aren't looking good for him at all.

GlennMirnyi
10-11-2007, 01:45 PM
Never in doubt Wawa.

leng jai
10-11-2007, 01:50 PM
Obviously not enough donuts. They must hhave all been digested by early in the second set and the courtside bananas were no substitute for Donut Dave's appetite.

Allure
10-11-2007, 01:55 PM
I was going to bet on Wawrinka. But then changed to Nalbandian. :mad:

Maxinefilo
10-11-2007, 02:03 PM
Good luck David in Rally...

lorenz
10-11-2007, 02:10 PM
David's Worst Year ever !!!!

HNCS
10-11-2007, 02:13 PM
what's with david...:o

but anyhow, :D for Stan.

scoobs
10-11-2007, 03:12 PM
David's on 1195 points before this week is taken into account and he's going to lose 100 automatically after the TMC, since he won't be there.

He could end the season outside the top 30 if he's not careful.

RickDaStick
10-11-2007, 03:18 PM
Fat Dave still hasnt gotten to 20 wins on the season. PATHETIC PATHETIC PATHETIC

scoobs
10-11-2007, 03:20 PM
less than 18 months ago he was world #3 and had over 3000 ATP points.

scoobs
10-11-2007, 03:20 PM
And he hasn't even been long-term injured in that period.

shotgun
10-11-2007, 03:28 PM
Obviously not enough donuts. They must hhave all been digested by early in the second set and the courtside bananas were no substitute for Donut Dave's appetite.

Well, if it's any consolation, he did get a breadstick in the end.

tangerine_dream
10-11-2007, 03:33 PM
The lack of abusive, profane, and fat-joke-filled posts by the gamblers is disappointing.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
10-11-2007, 03:33 PM
No surprise

Deboogle!.
10-11-2007, 03:36 PM
David's on 1195 points before this week is taken into account and he's going to lose 100 automatically after the TMC, since he won't be there.

He could end the season outside the top 30 if he's not careful.The real, and sad, question is, does he care? I'm sure his fans would know more than I do, but from my perspective and the fact that it seems like he'd rather be driving a rally car than being at a tennis tournament, it seems like he doesn't even care about his tennis anymore? this is someone who should be in the top 10 and contending for big titles. Very sad.

scoobs
10-11-2007, 03:41 PM
I suspect he does care - only not enough to make the sacrifices required to turn this around.

He's never been the most committed player out there but in the past he's managed to turn it on at the right times to keep the ranking up there - but no longer.

He picked up a new coach before the US Open and all the talk was of him getting down to business and arresting this decline but it hasn't amounted to a row of beans so far and I'm not sure it will.

People are too keen to call someone washed up before they're eally done but Safin has showed few signs of getting back into the top 20, let alone the top 10, and I struggle to see David doing so either unless he really does start to live tennis and put everything into it.

Merton
10-11-2007, 03:46 PM
Even more sad would be if David looks back at this time after he is done and regrets the fact that he didn't try his best for his tennis career. At that point there will be nothing to do about that, the only thing left will be regrets.

rofe
10-11-2007, 03:54 PM
I wonder why he hired a new coach if he doesn't give a damn? Maybe this is his slump year and these losses might help him next year. :shrug:

Galathea
10-11-2007, 05:24 PM
And he hasn't even been long-term injured in that period.

That's the problem he didn't have a long term injury?! He played almost 8 months with a knee problem, people. That injury that almost didn't let him play in Australia? Started in Vienna 2006. Went worst after a HUGE mistake from his team letting him play on hard in Chennai (after the first set he was in pain). He kept playing because he has talent and can replace legs with wrist. But that caused him more pain on his knee and also, doing bad movements that caused him a SERIOUS injury on his back (didn't play Rome, etc this year). HE ALMOST COULDN'T PLAY ANYMORE. The problems started in RG 2006 when his team (Barrionuevo and others) decided for a wrong treatment, that didn't work. It's been more than a year with Nalbandian NOT playing without some problem (also doing a restricted trainning, wich made him gain weight) I mean the way he went down in numbers is the same than Ancic (in %)... Well, the fact that Dave didn't have a very obvious, for the people, injury (except in Australia but that was the same injury he got in Vienna, just worst) or a disease, doesn't mean he didn't have problems. And the fact that he could play was worst for him: he got a back injury. Plus losing confidence and doing wrong movements to hit the ball, that he is correcting NOW (when he can train normally, but just recently)
I would be better for him break a leg or something, because A: that's obvious and nobody was going to say "he didn't have a long term injury" and B) the treatment for that is pretty clear, no mistakes or bad choices.
He lost confidence since that, he doesn't play to the lines, for example, that's a classic sign. When he does? You have the Nalbandian who destroyed Ferrer in Montreal or in 2 sets at the UsOpen.

He cares a lot, and he IS trainning hard but is a lot to recover from.
A lot of people talk without knowing, and Argentina is not the exception... worst, because he doesn't like press, there's some kind of payback from certain journalists.
Just because he wasnt crying "Why me?" didn't mean that he was not injured. For more data: the back injury? he couldn't move (literally) after some trainning. That's when he decided not go to Rome (and with a major freaked out from his family, him and the team)
He will go to recover slowly. If you know WHAT happened to him, you wouldn't be surprised.

Sorry for the horrible english, I was talking in french the whole week.... My brain is working worst than usual ;)

ETA: is not a JUSTIFICATION, is just INFORMATION to understand why he is like this.

scoobs
10-11-2007, 05:32 PM
Well if this information isn't out there, then how can we avoid "speaking without knowing" anyway? Be reasonable.

justClaudia
10-11-2007, 06:05 PM
I want this year to end, asap.

but then again, I'm not sure if next year will be any diferent. It's the eternal question with David. :shrug:

+alonso
10-11-2007, 06:08 PM
David! :o

I want the old David back, sadly I think I'll be waiting for a long time...

mr_burns
10-11-2007, 06:32 PM
he cares...had a good feeling at the us open that he wants it again

scarecrows
10-11-2007, 06:47 PM
keep it going Stan :rocker2:

rofe
10-11-2007, 06:48 PM
That's the problem he didn't have a long term injury?! He played almost 8 months with a knee problem, people. That injury that almost didn't let him play in Australia? Started in Vienna 2006. Went worst after a HUGE mistake from his team letting him play on hard in Chennai (after the first set he was in pain). He kept playing because he has talent and can replace legs with wrist. But that caused him more pain on his knee and also, doing bad movements that caused him a SERIOUS injury on his back (didn't play Rome, etc this year). HE ALMOST COULDN'T PLAY ANYMORE. The problems started in RG 2006 when his team (Barrionuevo and others) decided for a wrong treatment, that didn't work. It's been more than a year with Nalbandian NOT playing without some problem (also doing a restricted trainning, wich made him gain weight) I mean the way he went down in numbers is the same than Ancic (in %)... Well, the fact that Dave didn't have a very obvious, for the people, injury (except in Australia but that was the same injury he got in Vienna, just worst) or a disease, doesn't mean he didn't have problems. And the fact that he could play was worst for him: he got a back injury. Plus losing confidence and doing wrong movements to hit the ball, that he is correcting NOW (when he can train normally, but just recently)
I would be better for him break a leg or something, because A: that's obvious and nobody was going to say "he didn't have a long term injury" and B) the treatment for that is pretty clear, no mistakes or bad choices.
He lost confidence since that, he doesn't play to the lines, for example, that's a classic sign. When he does? You have the Nalbandian who destroyed Ferrer in Montreal or in 2 sets at the UsOpen.

He cares a lot, and he IS trainning hard but is a lot to recover from.
A lot of people talk without knowing, and Argentina is not the exception... worst, because he doesn't like press, there's some kind of payback from certain journalists.
Just because he wasnt crying "Why me?" didn't mean that he was not injured. For more data: the back injury? he couldn't move (literally) after some trainning. That's when he decided not go to Rome (and with a major freaked out from his family, him and the team)
He will go to recover slowly. If you know WHAT happened to him, you wouldn't be surprised.

Sorry for the horrible english, I was talking in french the whole week.... My brain is working worst than usual ;)

ETA: is not a JUSTIFICATION, is just INFORMATION to understand why he is like this.

Well then he should just take some time off to tend to his injuries rather than play and lose early don't you think? It can't be very good for his confidence. He can also then work on his fitness. It is not exactly rocket science and Canas has already showed the way on how to prepare after a long layoff. While Canas was not injured maybe David can get some tips on how to prepare for the tour after his injuries have healed completely.

martine2
10-11-2007, 07:03 PM
:woohoo: Good news to come home to!!

mineralwater
10-11-2007, 07:09 PM
Go Stan, wahey! I think too that David is lacking in confidence and match fitness

Gulliver
10-11-2007, 07:21 PM
So, to sum up, Wawrinka did nothing to win, and Nalbandian did everything to lose. So Wawrinka was rubbish in the 1st set, and Nalbandian rubbish in the 2nd and 3rd. I think that's the general analysis :)

R.Federer
10-11-2007, 08:09 PM
RAH RAH WA WA!!!! :bigclap:

GonzoFed
10-11-2007, 08:34 PM
Good to see Galathea back. I can see she hasn't changed at all. :)

ChinoRios4Ever
10-11-2007, 09:51 PM
Stans owns Nalbi

MariaV
10-11-2007, 10:09 PM
Good to see Galathea back. I can see she hasn't changed at all. :)

And why should she change? :shrug: ;)

I understand guys like Nalby and Safin don't like to talk about their injuries, and who does? So it looks like they don't care about tennis any more and blah-blah.

freeandlonely
10-11-2007, 11:49 PM
Somehow now it's that Nalbandian win a match will surprise me.

wenty
10-12-2007, 04:06 AM
Another disappointing tournament... :sad: