Andy Murray (GBR) def Guillermo Canas (ARG) 7-6(2) 6-4 to reach the Metz Final! [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

Andy Murray (GBR) def Guillermo Canas (ARG) 7-6(2) 6-4 to reach the Metz Final!

jitterbug
10-06-2007, 02:43 PM
Muzza got broken serving for the match, but broke Canas back immediately in the next game. Brilliant play by both!

Action Jackson
10-06-2007, 02:43 PM
Impressive performance by Murray, served very well until the end where he couldn't serve it out.

Broke for the match, well played.

Jaap
10-06-2007, 02:44 PM
Best I've seen Murray play since his injury.

Adler
10-06-2007, 02:44 PM
Typical choke attempt by Andy... losing breakpoints, serving for the match and being broken... but a win is a win anyway, I wish I would see a match between the two in march

adee-gee
10-06-2007, 02:45 PM
:rocker2:

Scotland 1 Argentina 0 (to be 2-0 when we win the rugby tomorrow :cool: )

Muzza's back :cool:

jitterbug
10-06-2007, 02:45 PM
Two threads, GWH. Just merge into whichever one was earlier.

martine2
10-06-2007, 02:46 PM
Willy :sad:

Thrilling match with very good tennis from both players. Andy was too good on the serve however. Congrats to him :yeah:

But I'm very glad to see Willy playing again the way I like it :)

scoobs
10-06-2007, 02:48 PM
Terrific performance from Andy until he served for it - excellent serving from him all day. 70% first serves winning 80% of the points behind them, or thereabouts.

He really played well - about as well as he has since Indian Wells, I think.

cmurray
10-06-2007, 02:48 PM
WOOOOOHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Man, I didn't realize how much I missed him. I'm thrilled that he seems to be back on form. Bring on Madrid.

Action Jackson
10-06-2007, 02:49 PM
Andy will be favourite for the final whoever he plays.

Both players knew each other prefered the pace to be on the ball and both of them weren't as hitting hard as they can. Murray was hitting some outstanding volleys and played it very well tactically.

I liked Andy's reaction when he was asked about England beating the Aussies in the rugby.

martine2
10-06-2007, 02:49 PM
Hey Escude! Remember what you promised :devil: I'm pretty upset and I need to be comforted, so I suggest you put it on Youtube :kiss:

richie21
10-06-2007, 02:49 PM
Along with Federer,the big quatuor of youngsters (Nadal,Djokovic,Gasquet,Murray) is going to vampirize the ATP tour the next year,you heard it first

VolandriFan
10-06-2007, 02:51 PM
Respectable performance from Willy. Like I've said, he's not going to get his form back until he takes a long break, but he still did very well this week, and I couldn't be happier.

Eddster
10-06-2007, 02:52 PM
better than indian wells, imo. Almost Nadal match level except bh let him down a few too many times when he went for it dtl.

Murray is Back!

Goonergal
10-06-2007, 02:52 PM
Well done Andy :D

JustJames
10-06-2007, 02:55 PM
Nice to see Andy settling back into good form as quickly as he has.. his recovery period seems to have been minimal.

Good result against a stubborn opponent today.. Well done Andy :yeah:

scoobs
10-06-2007, 03:00 PM
Andy will be favourite for the final whoever he plays.

Both players knew each other prefered the pace to be on the ball and both of them weren't as hitting hard as they can. Murray was hitting some outstanding volleys and played it very well tactically.

I liked Andy's reaction when he was asked about England beating the Aussies in the rugby.
What did he say?

Action Jackson
10-06-2007, 03:03 PM
What did he say?

He was surprised and it's not a sport he follows. They asked him will he go to the match tomorrow after the final. He said "no, he has to go to Luxembourg and fly to Moscow".

You could tell he wasn't that keen to talk about it.

Corey Feldman
10-06-2007, 03:06 PM
GET IN THERE Muzza!!

no more beating my faves, Canas.

scoobs
10-06-2007, 03:07 PM
He was surprised and it's not a sport he follows. They asked him will he go to the match tomorrow after the final. He said "no, he has to go to Luxembourg and fly to Moscow".

You could tell he wasn't that keen to talk about it.
*grins*

Sounds like Andy. Why would he be bothered - he's Scottish.

Eddster
10-06-2007, 03:13 PM
scoobs, Yayo meant the scotland v argentina match.

scoobs
10-06-2007, 03:14 PM
scoobs, Yayo meant the scotland v argentina match.
is it? that's not what he said. He said they asked Murray what he thought of England beating Australia.

cobalt60
10-06-2007, 03:16 PM
Hey Escude! Remember what you promised :devil: I'm pretty upset and I need to be comforted, so I suggest you put it on Youtube :kiss:

:rolls:

Eddster
10-06-2007, 03:17 PM
Announcer asked about did Murray know the England v Australia score he said he is scottish then was mtold that england had won, and seemed surprised as he said that he had heard they wernt playing well in group stages. The announcer said Willy had said he might go watch the Argentina v Scotland and asked Murray if he was going and he said he couldnt because he had to get to moscow straight after the final.

HarryMan
10-06-2007, 03:18 PM
How fucking talented is this guy !!I mean some of the volleys he was making would make the great Pete Sampras proud .I just hope he remains fit throughout the year because he is definitely a talent to watch out for.

The next generation of tennis is in safe hands considering talents like Djokovic, Gasquet, Murray have started to step up their games.

Dimonator133
10-06-2007, 03:19 PM
dangit Willy. Oh well, not a big surprise. Good to see both players back and in form. Who saw the match? High-quality?

Action Jackson
10-06-2007, 03:19 PM
is it? that's not what he said. He said they asked Murray what he thought of England beating Australia.

They asked him about both. First the England one and then the Scotland match.

Action Jackson
10-06-2007, 03:21 PM
How fucking talented is this guy !!I mean some of the volleys he was making would make the great Pete Sampras proud .I just hope he remains fit throughout the year because he is definitely a talent to watch out for.

The next generation of tennis is in safe hands considering talents like Djokovic, Gasquet, Murray have started to step up their games.

Funny thing is I am not sure if Gilbert is the right coach for him. But it was a high quality match for sure and Cañas couldn't do anything on Murray's serve.

Eddster
10-06-2007, 03:25 PM
well it seems to be working Murray handles the skills, and Gilbert the tactics. Murray also said that their relationship is stronger because of the injury, as it's easy hanging around with someone when things are going well etc.

Maxinefilo
10-06-2007, 03:26 PM
Great match Andy...
I want to see Murray in top 10 again...

HarryMan
10-06-2007, 03:26 PM
Funny thing is I am not sure if Gilbert is the right coach for him. But it was a high quality match for sure and Cañas couldn't do anything on Murray's serve.

True ,I personally think Murray has a very solid game to succeed even without Gilbert as a coach to be honest .And besides I haven't seen Murray serve and also volley like this in a long time .He looks like a complete player to me ,and if he could work on his fitness then He could have some great things in store for him in the future .

Action Jackson
10-06-2007, 03:27 PM
Murray's weakness hasn't been tactical.

Corey Feldman
10-06-2007, 03:28 PM
Hey Escude! Remember what you promised :devil: I'm pretty upset and I need to be comforted, so I suggest you put it on Youtube :kiss:I'll get my kilt wearing bagpiping practise started for you ;)

jitterbug
10-06-2007, 03:29 PM
dangit Willy. Oh well, not a big surprise. Good to see both players back and in form. Who saw the match? High-quality?

Pretty much, yeah. Good, long rallies. Usually defensive play bores me to death but today it was entertaining. I like :yeah:

Action Jackson
10-06-2007, 03:29 PM
True ,I personally think Murray has a very solid game to succeed even without Gilbert as a coach to be honest .And besides I haven't seen Murray serve and also volley like this in a long time .He looks like a complete player to me ,and if he could work on his fitness then He could have some great things in store for him in the future .

Yes, Murray needs to improve his fitness, strength and durability. I mean he has his game, with his variations and will do well because he does stuff differently to most players and unlike a lot of youngsters he knows how to construct points and had that before Gilbert rocked up.

Or Levy
10-06-2007, 03:37 PM
The battle of the youngesters is heating up again, after Djoko has been rulling that nest for a while (most advanced youngster) - I'm not sure where I put Berdych in.

Gasquet and Murray are making a run for titles while Nole, Rafa and Roger are resting and recovering from the tough HC season, will they be a serious threat during the Masters? - I hope so, I want to see them biting in Nole's heels a bit, just to remind him that he gotta watch HIS back just like Rafa and Roger has to watch theirs.

DrJules
10-06-2007, 03:39 PM
Andy Murray should send Federer a video in the post: "How to beat Canas":lol: :lol: :lol:

Without the bad luck of the injury he would have had a really good chance this year to enter the top 5.

DrJules
10-06-2007, 03:41 PM
The battle of the youngesters is heating up again, after Djoko has been rulling that nest for a while (most advanced youngster) - I'm not sure where I put Berdych in.

Gasquet and Murray are making a run for titles while Nole, Rafa and Roger are resting and recovering from the tough HC season, will they be a serious threat during the Masters? - I hope so, I want to see them biting in Nole's heels a bit, just to remind him that he gotta watch HIS back just like Rafa and Roger has to watch theirs.

Physically Djokovic is far ahead of Murray despite taking so many injury breaks, but in tennis skill Murray is probably slightly ahead. However, I do fear that Murray may always be physically weak; it is not a natural strength for him.

Adler
10-06-2007, 04:06 PM
The battle of the youngesters is heating up again, after Djoko has been rulling that nest for a while (most advanced youngster) - I'm not sure where I put Berdych in
He's definitely not a young gun anymore, so as Nadal and Baghdatis

R.Federer
10-06-2007, 04:14 PM
Excellent, I absolutely expected Andy to win.

adee-gee
10-06-2007, 04:22 PM
Announcer asked about did Murray know the England v Australia score he said he is scottish then was mtold that england had won, and seemed surprised as he said that he had heard they wernt playing well in group stages. The announcer said Willy had said he might go watch the Argentina v Scotland and asked Murray if he was going and he said he couldnt because he had to get to moscow straight after the final.
:haha: I would've thought Muzza would be tired of correcting people when they called him English by now, but he still insists on doing so :worship:

Jimnik
10-06-2007, 04:31 PM
Sounds like I missed a cracker. Muzza's first European final. :yeah:

:haha: I would've thought Muzza would be tired of correcting people when they called him English by now, but he still insists on doing so :worship:
He usually insists on being called British.

rofe
10-06-2007, 04:33 PM
Andy :yeah: This bodes well for his comeback from injury.

cmurray
10-06-2007, 04:38 PM
Physically Djokovic is far ahead of Murray despite taking so many injury breaks, but in tennis skill Murray is probably slightly ahead. However, I do fear that Murray may always be physically weak; it is not a natural strength for him.

I agree on all counts. Murray is a very smart tennis player. What I enjoy most about watching him is that he is nearly always in a position of making his opponent react to his game instead of the other way around. The way he constructs a point is really fascinating. He actually reminds me of Hingis a little bit.

Its really too bad that he's still so spindly. It definitely hurts his endurance. I'm hoping to see this change some day, but I'm not so sure he can overcome genetics.

scoobs
10-06-2007, 04:38 PM
:haha: I would've thought Muzza would be tired of correcting people when they called him English by now, but he still insists on doing so :worship:
Sometimes you have to change the world - one idiot at a time :)

adee-gee
10-06-2007, 04:39 PM
Sometimes you have to change the world - one idiot at a time :)
Is that your aim on MTF ;)

GlennMirnyi
10-06-2007, 04:41 PM
Never in doubt. I predicted that yesterday.

Well done Scot.

ChinoRios4Ever
10-06-2007, 04:42 PM
Muzza is back

scoobs
10-06-2007, 04:44 PM
Is that your aim on MTF ;)
No I have too much fun pointing at the idiots and laughing to want to change them.

GlennMirnyi
10-06-2007, 04:45 PM
No I have too much fun pointing at the idiots and laughing to want to change them.

Must be awfully nice to be able to have so much fun pointing at the mirror. :D

rofe
10-06-2007, 04:47 PM
I agree on all counts. Murray is a very smart tennis player. What I enjoy most about watching him is that he is nearly always in a position of making his opponent react to his game instead of the other way around. The way he constructs a point is really fascinating. He actually reminds me of Hingis a little bit.

Its really too bad that he's still so spindly. It definitely hurts his endurance. I'm hoping to see this change some day, but I'm not so sure he can overcome genetics.

This is what attracted me to his game. His anticipation, variety and point construction. He tends to be too defensive at times and I hope he can find the right balance between offense and defense with experience. When I first saw him, I immediately became a fan and was sure that he would threaten Fed in the future. Once he gets his fitness in order and gets the right mix of offense and defense he will make his mark.

martine2
10-06-2007, 04:48 PM
I'll get my kilt wearing bagpiping practise started for you ;)

:inlove: :p (don't forget the wind :lol: )

scoobs
10-06-2007, 04:49 PM
Must be awfully nice to be able to have so much fun pointing at the mirror. :D
The irony is that you posted this, as fully expected :hatoff:

GlennMirnyi
10-06-2007, 04:52 PM
The irony is that you posted this, as fully expected :hatoff:

:D you're welcome. Showing people the truth may hurt sometimes.

scoobs
10-06-2007, 04:53 PM
:D you're welcome. Showing people the truth may hurt sometimes.
There are those that can't see it when it stares them in the face.

No matter. It's still fun for me.

cmurray
10-06-2007, 04:54 PM
The irony is that you posted this, as fully expected :hatoff:

Of course he did. Glenn is ever predictable. :lol:

GlennMirnyi
10-06-2007, 04:55 PM
There are those that can't see it when it stares them in the face.

No matter. It's still fun for me.

Awww poor kid. :sad:

GlennMirnyi
10-06-2007, 04:56 PM
Of course he did. Glenn is ever predictable. :lol:

It's called "delivering the goods".

scoobs
10-06-2007, 04:59 PM
I agree on all counts. Murray is a very smart tennis player. What I enjoy most about watching him is that he is nearly always in a position of making his opponent react to his game instead of the other way around. The way he constructs a point is really fascinating. He actually reminds me of Hingis a little bit.

Its really too bad that he's still so spindly. It definitely hurts his endurance. I'm hoping to see this change some day, but I'm not so sure he can overcome genetics.

My main concern about him is sometimes a tendency to overcomplicate the strategy.

It's been said about Gasquet that he's too keen on playing pretty tennis regardless of how effective it ends up being winning matches and tournaments.

I think it's fair to say about Murray sometimes that he's too keen on playing clever tennis - he can be a bit over-elaborate getting points won when a more simple approach might do it a bit quicker. The object is still to win the matches - Gasquet doesn't get artistic impression bonus points, and neither does Murray get technical merit bonus points.

I don't want him to change his style of play - he's great to have around and he offers a much needed dose of variety. However, as part of his strategies, I think there needs to be more emphasis on getting it done efficiently in a more straightforward manner - not every point, but he doesn't need to spin a web on every single point he plays. Sometimes, just hit the damn ball through the court :)

Burrow
10-06-2007, 05:11 PM
Gasquet...please beat him and leave him with San Jose to gloat about for yet another year.

scoobs
10-06-2007, 05:14 PM
Gasquet...please beat him and leave him with San Jose to gloat about for yet another year.
Gasquet is playing half a world away in Tokyo so it will be interesting if somehow he does...

Jaap
10-06-2007, 05:16 PM
Gasquet...please beat him and leave him with San Jose to gloat about for yet another year.

Haha. Mug. Read it again.

Jaap
10-06-2007, 05:17 PM
Burrow is incoherent at the moment because his boyfriend, Canass just got ass whooped.

cmurray
10-06-2007, 05:22 PM
My main concern about him is sometimes a tendency to overcomplicate the strategy.

It's been said about Gasquet that he's too keen on playing pretty tennis regardless of how effective it ends up being winning matches and tournaments.

I think it's fair to say about Murray sometimes that he's too keen on playing clever tennis - he can be a bit over-elaborate getting points won when a more simple approach might do it a bit quicker. The object is still to win the matches - Gasquet doesn't get artistic impression bonus points, and neither does Murray get technical merit bonus points.

I don't want him to change his style of play - he's great to have around and he offers a much needed dose of variety. However, as part of his strategies, I think there needs to be more emphasis on getting it done efficiently in a more straightforward manner - not every point, but he doesn't need to spin a web on every single point he plays. Sometimes, just hit the damn ball through the court :)

Agreed. he does get caught overthinking. But I think better decision making will come with maturity. It seems at times that he has TOO many options at his disposal and it makes things more difficult than they need to be.

All that being said, as flawed as Murray's game can be, I still prefer it to most anyone else's. I think a little more experience will turn Murray into an incredible champion.

NYCtennisfan
10-06-2007, 05:41 PM
Along with Federer,the big quatuor of youngsters (Nadal,Djokovic,Gasquet,Murray) is going to vampirize the ATP tour the next year,you heard it first

This is a bold prediction.

GlennMirnyi
10-06-2007, 05:47 PM
Burrow is incoherent at the moment because his boyfriend, Canass just got ass whooped.

:haha: :haha:

His boyfriend is Safin.

DrJules
10-06-2007, 05:52 PM
How fucking talented is this guy !!I mean some of the volleys he was making would make the great Pete Sampras proud .I just hope he remains fit throughout the year because he is definitely a talent to watch out for.

The next generation of tennis is in safe hands considering talents like Djokovic, Gasquet, Murray have started to step up their games.

Agreed. he does get caught overthinking. But I think better decision making will come with maturity. It seems at times that he has TOO many options at his disposal and it makes things more difficult than they need to be.

All that being said, as flawed as Murray's game can be, I still prefer it to most anyone else's. I think a little more experience will turn Murray into an incredible champion.

Murray reminds me so much of McEnroe from the 1980's and Djokovic reminds me of Ivan Lendl from the 1980's; Murray exhibiting flair, imagination and talent while Djokovic overpowers and grinds players down with his imposing physical power. In the 80's Lendl proved to be distinctly more successful.

stebs
10-06-2007, 06:16 PM
Good win for Murray and it was always on the cards because beating a guy like Canas is often down to tactical prowess, point construction and patience. Murray has all those so it was down to wether his game was good enough.

Great for Murray to be back on tour and winning matches and one of the most interesting players on tour to watch for sure, hard to recognise that he's the same player when you see him play two different game styles against different players.

Burrow
10-06-2007, 06:28 PM
:tape:

Burrow
10-06-2007, 06:28 PM
:haha: :haha:

His boyfriend is Safin.

Jealous, are we?

:rolls:

fan boy

GlennMirnyi
10-06-2007, 06:35 PM
Jealous, are we?

:rolls:

fan boy

Safin-ette. :haha:

DrJules
10-06-2007, 07:12 PM
My main concern about him is sometimes a tendency to overcomplicate the strategy.

It's been said about Gasquet that he's too keen on playing pretty tennis regardless of how effective it ends up being winning matches and tournaments.

I think it's fair to say about Murray sometimes that he's too keen on playing clever tennis - he can be a bit over-elaborate getting points won when a more simple approach might do it a bit quicker. The object is still to win the matches - Gasquet doesn't get artistic impression bonus points, and neither does Murray get technical merit bonus points.

I don't want him to change his style of play - he's great to have around and he offers a much needed dose of variety. However, as part of his strategies, I think there needs to be more emphasis on getting it done efficiently in a more straightforward manner - not every point, but he doesn't need to spin a web on every single point he plays. Sometimes, just hit the damn ball through the court :)

Historically true, but the last 2 events indicate possible changes; Gasquet winning 18 sets in a row.:eek: :eek:

He seems to be more focussed on winning than brilliant performances 1 day and dreadfull performances the next day.

cmurray
10-06-2007, 07:44 PM
Murray reminds me so much of McEnroe from the 1980's and Djokovic reminds me of Ivan Lendl from the 1980's; Murray exhibiting flair, imagination and talent while Djokovic overpowers and grinds players down with his imposing physical power. In the 80's Lendl proved to be distinctly more successful.

Lordy, I'm just agreeing with you all over the place today. And you know, I've never pinpointed precisely who Nole's game reminded me of. But of course, you're right. Lendl. Duh. And it explains why I find Djoko's game repugnant.

I hope that Murray can find a way to diffuse the power game of the Djokovics of the sport. There is no rule that says that in order to play imaginative tennis, you have to sacrifice power. Just ask Roger Federer.

Byrd
10-06-2007, 08:05 PM
Well done Muzza, now go beat boredo's ass down in the final, I'm talking straights.

ReturnWinner
10-07-2007, 12:42 AM
great match to watch with many nice rallies, maybe this was Murray's best performance of the year, and btw he served great.

Blue Heart24
10-07-2007, 09:09 AM
Great win and he has to beat that clown today.

jonny84
10-07-2007, 10:49 AM
I think Andy has a really good chance of beating Tommy. Lets hope he gets his third ATP title here!

nikita13
10-07-2007, 10:54 AM
Tommy has no chance :)

mineralwater
10-07-2007, 11:08 AM
Really chuffed for Muzza, think he's got great chance against Robredo. Wish I could watch it. GO MURRAY!!!!