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Corey Feldman
10-05-2007, 04:57 PM
Any boxing threads around?
well if not, is now...

what a few superb bouts left this year starting tomorrow night with the Mexican legend Barrera out for revenge against the awesome Manny 'Pacman' Pacquiao

Manny done a brutal job on him in 2003 and he's even better now and Barrera - older :scared:


but the big one of all in Dec: The Hitman Hatton against the big mouth overated Yank Mayweather, i cannot wait for it... its a tough one to call (bookies have Mayweather as strong fave)

i'd love the Hitman to bust his mouth even wider than it already is and i believe he can do it !!!!!!

see that bodyshot he used to destroy Castillo - 'half a ton' punch, oh you are in for some of that Floyd

Man boxing gets me all testostoreney :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Corey Feldman
10-05-2007, 05:02 PM
The press conf's between Hatton and Mayweather was great stuff :lol:
Floyd flashing his dollars and wearing Man Unt shirts, Fat Ricky in his suit haha....
that is Hatton's style though, he'll burn that fat off 3 months before a fight with some brutal training and at the same time lulling his opponents into thinking he's out of shape and not taking it seriously.

2 unbeaten legends... one a spartan, one a ballerina - this is the sport where the Spartan wins.

El Legenda
10-05-2007, 05:04 PM
Mayweather will win :)

Corey Feldman
10-05-2007, 05:11 PM
Mayweather is never gonna feel pain or power like this..

old fart could hardly hurt another old man, De La Hoya, in his last win.

Hitman will break his ribs like he did Castillo :boxing:

Corey Feldman
12-05-2007, 02:09 AM
Not long to go :bounce:

what is Mayweather playing at? he is cancelling training sessions about rumours he has a hand injury

mind games, bottling it or just getting his excuses ready if The Hitman blows him away

CMON Ricky !!!!!

stebs
12-05-2007, 11:22 AM
I wish Hatton all the best and a very nice guy from what I can see but Mayweather is the superior boxer.

LK_22
12-05-2007, 11:30 AM
Got every faith in Ricky :yeah:

MissPovaFan
12-05-2007, 11:34 AM
Mayweather is playing the "injured" card - nice little excuse for if/when he loses ;) Not unlike a couple of top 10 ATP players :angel:

Corey Feldman
12-05-2007, 09:09 PM
from what I can see but Mayweather is the superior boxer.Yeah he's the ballerina but Ricky is the spartan

Hitman to stop him inside 10 rnds, cmon son!!

Clara Bow
12-05-2007, 09:13 PM
Not long to go :bounce:

what is Mayweather playing at? he is cancelling training sessions about rumours he has a hand injury

mind games, bottling it or just getting his excuses ready if The Hitman blows him away

CMON Ricky !!!!!

Mayweather has actually had hand issues for a while now since before this fight with Hatton was scheduled- and he was receiving treatment for it in an episode of Hatton/Mayweather 24/7.

I know on this board every injury is an "excuse"- but this is not something Floyd created out of thin air.

Corey Feldman
12-05-2007, 09:22 PM
Maybe Clara

but if it was so bad i think he would have plugged the bout by now...

anyways, he seemed 'on form' at the press conference so im sure its all back on

Clara Bow
12-05-2007, 09:25 PM
From what I have seen/read- it seems like he wants to get boxing in while he can. Between all of his loud mouth boasting (which I should hate- it amuses me because it seems like he is playing a character)- he has verbalized concern that his body is breaking down. Which can happen after years and years of boxing. Boxing is for sure a sport that can not be too kind on the body.

His hand issues have been longstanding and if I recall correctly to be stemming from an injury that he sustained as an amateur in a 2001 fight against Carlos Hernandez- so again, I still don't buy that he is making up an injury or created a history of being buzzed about as having fragile hands all in anticipation of this fight ;) v I can see why Ricky doesn't want it to be used as an excuse if he win, but my main point is these hand issues are not out of thin air.

I just hope it is a good fight- will be fun to see the two very contrasting styles. I imagine a lot of Maucurians will be coming to Las Vegas- should be a fun atmosphere. Now just need to decide whether we are going to watch it ppv at our home or a friends or go for the sports bar.

Corey Feldman
12-05-2007, 09:57 PM
I wonder if 50 cent will come into the ring with Pretty Boy again.... and Hatton will have an even bigger legend - Marco Antonio Barrera again :worship:

Clara Bow
12-05-2007, 10:03 PM
Knowing Floyd he is probably angling to get Kanye since he won the battle of the records with 50 :lol:

adee-gee
12-06-2007, 09:32 AM
:lol: nice little publicity stunt last night.

Good luck Ricky :yeah:

Turquoise
12-06-2007, 10:57 AM
This is a boxing match I won't miss. Good luck Hatton! You can do it!

Jaap
12-06-2007, 12:03 PM
PBF on points IMO.

Hope I'm wrong though and Hatton pulls off the upset. Can just see Floyd cutting him to pieces as the fight goes on. Hatton will likely come out strong but as the fight goes, Floyd will dominate.

Corey Feldman
12-06-2007, 04:32 PM
adeegee.. what if with the Hoff loving!!? he's a tool :(

nightrider in the 80's he was ok... then he went to Germany with a jacket with lights on and thought he was the main reason the Berlin wall was coming down - from then on :cuckoo: :lol:


the head rubbing was funny, always a bit silly looking more than tough looking .. but funny :lol:

MissPovaFan
12-06-2007, 05:50 PM
They had a little scuffle today at a press conference :D

TMJordan
12-07-2007, 05:19 PM
Kick his ass, Ricky :yeah:

adee-gee
12-07-2007, 09:29 PM
Is anyone watching the weigh-in? Hilarious stuff :lol:

Calzaghe and Hopkins :boxing:

rocketassist
12-07-2007, 09:43 PM
cmon Hitman :yeah:

Andi-M
12-07-2007, 11:57 PM
Im lovin the war or words between these 2!!!

Hatton is an annoying manc...but i'll support him anyway!!should be a good battle!

Corey Feldman
12-08-2007, 12:43 AM
Is anyone watching the weigh-in? Hilarious stuff :lol:

Calzaghe and Hopkins :boxing:It was good, not sure if i like see'ing Hatton getting emotional though - dont fall into that trap Hitman.

the Calzaghe/Hopkins stuff was brilliant and the legend of legends MA Barrera was there as well. :worship:

Clara Bow
12-08-2007, 05:22 AM
Before the fight tomorrow- I guess I will be the lone "go PBF!" here. I am quite excited about this fight- moreso than I was with the Oscar fight.

Corey Feldman
12-08-2007, 05:51 PM
Hitman cant let anger get in the way... last 2 times he's been over excited and wanted to blast someone away he's made big mistakes - against the colombian last year he was too eager to please and ended up with cuts on both eyes after 2 rounds before KO'ing him, and he wasnt clever against Callazo either.

G L Ricky !! do it son

MissPovaFan
12-08-2007, 06:20 PM
Who;s getting this on Sky Box Office? I am :D

Corey Feldman
12-08-2007, 06:27 PM
Staying up for it then Paul?

better take a nap now then :p Amir Khan fight is on ITV tonight as well

but thats like watching a GM Vauxhall conference league match before a Man Unt - Chelsea game ;)

jayjay
12-08-2007, 06:28 PM
Who;s getting this on Sky Box Office? I am :D

<raises hand> This is one of the few PPVs that will actually be worth the outlay (porn aside).

Corey Feldman
12-08-2007, 06:28 PM
25,000 brits around Vegas - just heard on the news

Corey Feldman
12-08-2007, 06:30 PM
Jayjay avatar alert *salute* *salute*
another topper :yeah:

lol at the fans in Vegas "Who are ya, who are ya" - Mayweather must have that sound ringing in his ears by now

jayjay
12-08-2007, 07:37 PM
Jayjay avatar alert *salute* *salute*
another topper :yeah:


Wales's finest.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=6327724&postcount=13

MissPovaFan
12-08-2007, 10:05 PM
Staying up for it then Paul?

better take a nap now then :p Amir Khan fight is on ITV tonight as well

but thats like watching a GM Vauxhall conference league match before a Man Unt - Chelsea game ;)

Yep just booked it now :D I can't wait!!!

The Khan fight was a bit of a joke! The hype surrounding his opponent made me think he was actually any good :lol: He was a right clown in the interview as well saying it shouldn't have been stopped! He got a hammering!

<raises hand> This is one of the few PPVs that will actually be worth the outlay (porn aside).

Definitely :p

Bilbo
12-08-2007, 10:12 PM
this abraham is good

TKO in round 5

JustJames
12-08-2007, 10:43 PM
The Khan fight was a bit of a joke! The hype surrounding his opponent made me think he was actually any good :lol: He was a right clown in the interview as well saying it shouldn't have been stopped! He got a hammering!

:lol:

He was floored twice within 1min 12secs.. He must be the only person who saw the fight that thought he was still in it! Although he did have plenty of time sitting down on the canvas to think about his situation, so who's to say..!?

MissPovaFan
12-08-2007, 10:51 PM
:lol:

He was floored twice within 1min 12secs.. He must be the only person who saw the fight that thought he was still in it! Although he did have plenty of time sitting down on the canvas to think about his situation, so who's to say..!?

:haha: I know he is insane if he thinks he could have continued! The dazed look on his face was priceless! Khan could be the next Naz!

JustJames
12-08-2007, 10:57 PM
:haha: I know he is insane if he thinks he could have continued! The dazed look on his face was priceless! Khan could be the next Naz!

At first glance I was confused.. I hadn't heard of Khan's political favouring of national socialism.. :lol:

Yes I think he could be another British world title holder, although it is still pretty difficult to judge as he hasn't really fought anybody of high calibre.

Stensland
12-08-2007, 11:10 PM
does anyone have a stream of the hatton fight? i'm not really a fan of boxing but this match-up is intriguing.

MissPovaFan
12-08-2007, 11:22 PM
At first glance I was confused.. I hadn't heard of Khan's political favouring of national socialism.. :lol:

Yes I think he could be another British world title holder, although it is still pretty difficult to judge as he hasn't really fought anybody of high calibre.

:lol: :p Naz is more of a Nazi :p

Come on Portman!!! West Bromwich guy :D

does anyone have a stream of the hatton fight? i'm not really a fan of boxing but this match-up is intriguing.

I have it on Sky Box Office - they just interviewed Calzaghe who sort of sat on the fence but said Hatton needs to disrupt Mayweather early.

MatchFederer
12-08-2007, 11:47 PM
From what I have seen/read- it seems like he wants to get boxing in while he can. Between all of his loud mouth boasting (which I should hate- it amuses me because it seems like he is playing a character)- he has verbalized concern that his body is breaking down. Which can happen after years and years of boxing. Boxing is for sure a sport that can not be too kind on the body.

His hand issues have been longstanding and if I recall correctly to be stemming from an injury that he sustained as an amateur in a 2001 fight against Carlos Hernandez- so again, I still don't buy that he is making up an injury or created a history of being buzzed about as having fragile hands all in anticipation of this fight ;) v I can see why Ricky doesn't want it to be used as an excuse if he win, but my main point is these hand issues are not out of thin air.

I just hope it is a good fight- will be fun to see the two very contrasting styles. I imagine a lot of Maucurians will be coming to Las Vegas- should be a fun atmosphere. Now just need to decide whether we are going to watch it ppv at our home or a friends or go for the sports bar.

He was a pro at that time and has been since 1996.

Corey Feldman
12-09-2007, 12:41 AM
Wales's finest. wOW, and welsh !!? since when did they have good looking women?
what a lil beauty.

The Khan fight was a bit of a joke! The hype surrounding his opponent made me think he was actually any goodTell me about it! i switched to Match of the Day when the bell went , so i wouldnt miss a goal, and when i flicked back the fight was over!

Warren is just gonna line up bum after bum for him for at least a few more years. (not a gay statement)

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 01:22 AM
Warren is just gonna line up bum after bum for him for at least a few more years. (not a gay statement)

Yeah he;s definitely going to! The next big one looks set to be Calzaghe v Hopkins - got to happen next summer - Warren will make sure of it!

I don't think I've heard any pundits on Sky going for Mayweather yet!

JustJames
12-09-2007, 03:13 AM
Starting to get nervous..

TMJordan
12-09-2007, 03:35 AM
Let's do this Ricky! :boxing:

tiptop
12-09-2007, 03:39 AM
does anyone have a stream of the hatton fight? i'm not really a fan of boxing but this match-up is intriguing.

It's live on RTL, rrrainer! :wavey:


Go Ricky!

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 03:40 AM
:lol: They don't like the booing in America :haha: God help them if they play us in football :eek:

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 03:45 AM
Hatton looks nervous not a good sign

JustJames
12-09-2007, 03:48 AM
'Lets get ready to Rummmmbbbllleeee........' :singer:

The crowd is buzzing.. goose-pimple noise. :yeah:

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 03:49 AM
Class stuff! I hope Hitman but think Mayweather in 7 rounds or points,

JustJames
12-09-2007, 03:51 AM
Class stuff! I hope Hitman but think Mayweather in 7 rounds or points,

Yes me too.

Im only listening to the match on radio, but im already absorbed..

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 03:51 AM
Mayweather looking the better so far

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 03:52 AM
Mayweather knocked off balaance!!!!

JustJames
12-09-2007, 03:53 AM
Hatton round? Seems like it...

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 03:54 AM
Nah Mayweather clinched that I'd say. But he's worried

tiptop
12-09-2007, 03:54 AM
I'm only listening to it as i don't have the money for the the ppv. but i already love it...

JustJames
12-09-2007, 03:54 AM
The funniest thing is Mayweather's pre-match announcement that he would stand toe to toe.. so far according to the commentators he's running around the ring.

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 03:55 AM
Yeah Mayweather on the defence. The ref is stepping in too quick stupid arse! :mad:

JustJames
12-09-2007, 03:56 AM
Yeah Mayweather on the defence. The ref is stepping in too quick stupid arse! :mad:

Exactly what the Hatton camp don't want..

They need a lenient ref.

JustJames
12-09-2007, 03:57 AM
Ref keeps calling time outs.. this time to tell Mayweather to stop the dirty fighting. :o

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 03:58 AM
Hatton round there. Ref is a tosser! He's not letting them fight - he's been listening too much to Mayweather camp :mad:

JustJames
12-09-2007, 03:58 AM
The commentators on BBC Fivelive are furious that the ref isn't allowing close up fighting.. "It's not all about long range punches.."

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 03:59 AM
He's spoiling the fight

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:01 AM
Hatton is cut

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:03 AM
What is going on with the officiating.. The ref talks to Hatton, Hatton turns to face him.. Mayweather lands a punch, and then Cortez just says 'Carry on..'.. :shrug: Very confusing.

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:03 AM
The eye is playing up for Ricky :(

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:05 AM
Looks gone :(

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:05 AM
Mayweather is now landing some serious hits...

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:05 AM
Yeah Hatton got destroyed in that round

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:06 AM
The atmosphere has quietened.. you can sense the unrest.

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:07 AM
Yeah really not looking good at all

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:10 AM
According to the commentators that was Hatton's round.. and he is "back in it.."

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:10 AM
Yeah definitely Hatton's round last one. 3-2 to one of them but who I'm not sure

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:12 AM
This ref is a stupid twat

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:12 AM
Hatton deducted one point for clubbing Mayweather on the back of the head..

Hatton argues that it is all that he can do when Mayweather is turning away.

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:13 AM
Altogether... the referee's a wanker, the referees a wanker

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:13 AM
This ref is a stupid twat

They should use a European ref.. I would never trust a N.American ref not to be affected by the hype..

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:13 AM
Typical of the referees in that continent!

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:15 AM
Commentator: "Talk about a hometown referee... The referee is having a real stinker"

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:15 AM
The American judges will give it to Mayweather too

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:18 AM
Mayweather holding Hatton's arm on the Referee's blind side whilst punching with the other.. Hatton then attacks, but is seperated by the referee. :o

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:19 AM
Yep :( Mayweather looking good this round

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:21 AM
Mayweather opening up..

Dominating.

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:21 AM
Mayweather has this won!

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:23 AM
Yes..

Mayweather is now in unknown territory but he is looking [well sounding.. :lol: ] so strong..

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:24 AM
Hatton not getting any clean punches in

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:26 AM
Yeh.. Mayweather seems to be so much more clinical with his punches.

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:27 AM
Mayweather's best part of the fight now too

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:28 AM
Hatton down.. :sad:

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:28 AM
All over...

Mayweather Wins!!

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:28 AM
Cortez ends fight.. and Hatton's corner throw in the towel.

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:29 AM
Awesome fight by Mayweather fair play

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:31 AM
Hatton and Mayweather embraced after the fight.. Floyd even gave Ricky a nice kiss on the cheek.

Nice to see after all the palava leading up to the fight..

Well done to Mayweather.. amazing fighter :worship:

Ricky went up a division too high.. he isnt big enough for welterweight. Great effort though..

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:32 AM
Yeah I agree! Nice to see they respect each other :) I feel this is the end for Hatton though

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:32 AM
Not sure whether to go to bed now.. Or just complete an all nighter. What are you doing Paul?!

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:33 AM
Where I live we have Hurricane force winds right now! I think I'll watch the interviews etc, though :)

Fair play Mayweather said a big thankyou and that he loves the English fans

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:34 AM
Where I live we have Hurricane force winds right now! I think I'll watch the interviews etc, though :)

Fair play Mayweather said a big thankyou and that he loves the English fans

Really!? In Wolverhampton?
It's calm here in Bristol..

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:36 AM
Really!? In Wolverhampton?
It's calm here in Bristol..

Oh no I'm down in Swansea right now with my parents :) It's really really bad here! I reckon there's going to be big damage through the night and tomorrow!

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:39 AM
Oh no I'm down in Swansea right now with my parents :) It's really really bad here! I reckon there's going to be big damage through the night and tomorrow!

Yikes.. I hope the city survives the night.

Nice interview from Mayweather.. He says that he still wants to fight in the UK, ironically if he did, I guess that he would recieve the British support..

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:40 AM
hehe yeah Mayweather was great but I'm not so sure on Hatton - he's making a bit of a fool of himself not giving Mayweather much credit.

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:43 AM
hehe yeah Mayweather was great but I'm not so sure on Hatton - he's making a bit of a fool of himself not giving Mayweather much credit.

I think its just the disappoint of losing when he believed that he was still in the fight.. and that his game plan could have been applied better.

I get the feeling that privately Hatton and Mayweather will get on very well..

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:45 AM
I think its just the disappoint of losing when he believed that he was still in the fight.. and that his game plan could have been applied better.

I get the feeling that privately Hatton and Mayweather will get on very well..

Yeah that's true but he's coming across much better with the Sky interview right now. He's complaining about foul play from Mayweather but does think he chose his moments well.

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:46 AM
Ah that's good to hear.. :yeah:

MissPovaFan
12-09-2007, 04:48 AM
Ah that's good to hear.. :yeah:

He did say he will continue to fight and it seems he will stay at Welterweight as well as he wants the top challenges! Maybe a rematch in England could be on the cards?

Oh well I'm going to try and get some sleep although with this rain god help me! lol.

Speak to you soon :)

JustJames
12-09-2007, 04:55 AM
Good luck getting 40 winks... Im totally wired now, will just have to have a siesta..

A match in London against Oscar De La Hoya is apparently on the cards.. A fight that could make each man around $10,000,000.. Who could say no to that?!

El Legenda
12-09-2007, 06:04 AM
A match in London against Oscar De La Hoya is apparently on the cards.. A fight that could make each man around $10,000,000.. Who could say no to that?!

Oscar..why would be fight for 10,000,000 when he can make 50,000,000 as a promoter.

El Legenda
12-09-2007, 06:05 AM
also nice going to the classless Brits who were boooing the american anthem. :rolleyes:

Clara Bow
12-09-2007, 06:10 AM
Well played Mayweather. Hatton made him bring his best. Nice to see. Hatton was a tough son of a bitch. Nice to see Floyd be very classy in his interviews. I wish I could have seen Ricky give Floyd some more props right after the fight - in his exit interview that they showed he gave Floyd about zero props as a fighter. Nice to see though that he did give him a bit more respect for his skills in later interviews.

El Legenda
12-09-2007, 06:31 AM
Offical scorecard
89-81, 89-81, 88-82 Floyd Pretty Boy Money Mayweather

Jaap
12-09-2007, 10:55 AM
also nice going to the classless Brits who ever boooing the american anthem. :rolleyes:

Hopefully they trashed the shitty country.

El Legenda
12-09-2007, 04:57 PM
Hopefully they trashed the shitty country.

cant get more trashed than Hatton did, the guy had no business being in the ring with Mayweather....he landed 57 punches in 10 rounds.

Corey Feldman
12-09-2007, 05:54 PM
think Hatton summed it best when he said he's the best at light-welter and FM best at welter, just seemed too similiar to his last figh at 147 against Callazo, 1st round= best round but then couldnt hurt the guy as the rounds wore on ... and Mayweater is no Callazo obviously

but was still worth giving it a go, Mayweather is slippery as an eal and that is a skill you need against the charging Hitman, by the end he was so far behind on points - not surprised he was stopped/KO'd..

props to the yank, he done the job.

you're still the best aggresive and most exciting fighter to me Hitman :yeah:
he'll bounce back, but where he belongs - 140.
A match in London against Oscar De La Hoya is apparently on the cardsNo way will Ricky fight at 147 again, he's done it twice and was rank both times ... he's just not natural enough at that weight it seems

Corey Feldman
12-09-2007, 05:56 PM
also nice going to the classless Brits who were boooing the american anthem. :rolleyes:defender of all things Yank all of a sudden?
man that 2005 Davis cup win for Croatia over them must be a long memory for you now :lol:

El Legenda
12-09-2007, 08:12 PM
defender of all things Yank all of a sudden?
man that 2005 Davis cup win for Croatia over them must be a long memory for you now :lol:

Croatians were doing it at home..not away :D
you did hear me say anything when the Croats were doing the same during God save the queen in Croatia for Euro Q's :D

adee-gee
12-09-2007, 11:40 PM
Hatton has gone down in my estimation....time to stop making excuses, you got completely outboxed. I didn't see it live but I've seen it now, it wasn't even close. Floyd showed class during and after the fight, Ricky did neither.

And considering he said Mayweather couldn't hurt him, I'd suggest he holds his hands up and admits he was wrong judging by his face tonight.

Corey Feldman
12-10-2007, 11:36 AM
i can understand his dissapointment after the fight, no need to worship Mayweather like everyone else would ..

The Hitman will bounce back from this one day

MissPovaFan
12-10-2007, 12:33 PM
Hatton has gone down in my estimation....time to stop making excuses, you got completely outboxed. I didn't see it live but I've seen it now, it wasn't even close. Floyd showed class during and after the fight, Ricky did neither.

And considering he said Mayweather couldn't hurt him, I'd suggest he holds his hands up and admits he was wrong judging by his face tonight.

First three rounds were close but after that it was all Mayweather. Agree with you about Floyd showing class - something I wasn't expecting from him. Cortez was crap but it would have made little difference sadly.

El Legenda
12-10-2007, 04:10 PM
First three rounds were close but after that it was all Mayweather. Agree with you about Floyd showing class - something I wasn't expecting from him. Cortez was crap but it would have made little difference sadly.

Mayweather is always class after the fight...all the talk he does before the fight is to sell tickets and HBO PPV tickets.

Corey Feldman
12-10-2007, 06:07 PM
I think you will find its easy to 'be class' after you have won.....
do you think a ghetto chump like that would be class if he ever lost? dont make me laugh.

MissPovaFan
03-11-2008, 01:34 AM
Time to bump up this thread for the all-important Mayweather v Big Show match! Anyone getting this on Sky Box Office? Just 20 days to go!

MissPovaFan
03-11-2008, 02:12 AM
On the weigh in Mayweather brought out a posse of 10 and then Big Show brings out his own posse of around 10 WWE superstars.

Big Show trash talking to Mayweather! Crowd totally against Floyd! Floyd says he will break Big Show's jaw!

Then Big Show caught Floyd unaware, picks him up and throws him out of the ring sparking a free for fall from which Floyd flees the scene!

LeChuck
03-28-2008, 03:08 PM
Representatives of Pretty Boy and the Hitman have apparanrently started talks regarding a re-match in Spring 2009 at Wembley. Hatton would have to beat Lazcano on May 24th, and Mayweather won have to win his re-match against Golden Boy on September 20th this year, for that to happen. Hopefully the talks and negotiations will be successful.

fast_clay
07-27-2008, 11:55 AM
Just watched COTTO vs MARGHERITO.... anyone else see this fight...?

proper candidate for fight of the year... cotto's my fave stylist since tszyu got retired... but, f*** the margerhito is one scary m****f****... oh my godfather... just kept marching on... cotto hitting 'tijuana tornado' with beastly shots - meant nothing... cant believe it 3-1 underdog... smashed his way to an 11rd win...

if you havent seen this fight... have a look...

just pips CASAMAYOR vs KATSIDIS for fight of the year for mine...

Henry Chinaski
09-15-2009, 12:13 AM
bumped this for yet another premature death of a boxer

Boxer Sutherland found dead

Irish Olympic medal-winning boxer Darren Sutherland was found dead at his home in England today.

The 27-year-old, who won a bronze medal for Ireland at the 2008 Games in Beijing, was found in his flat in Bromley, south London, by his manager and boxing promoter Frank Maloney.

"It is very sad and unexpected," Mr Maloney said in a statement released tonight. "At this sad time my thoughts are with Darren's family, and I hope their privacy at this very difficult time will be respected by the media."

He described it as a "tragedy for Ireland and the world of boxing".

A London police spokesman said Sutherland was pronounced dead just after 3pm. His death is not being treated as suspicious, and his family have been informed.

The fighter had made made a promising start to his professional career at super middleweight. He won his debut fight in Dublin last December by a knockout and was undefeated after four fights. His last fight was in London just eight weeks ago.

pretty fucked up.

I only recently read this article about the spate of deaths during the summer:

http://www.edgeofsports.com/2009-08-12-444/index.html

its.like.that
09-15-2009, 02:21 AM
Reminds me of Montcourt's death.

Strange :confused:.

Drugs?

TMJordan
09-19-2009, 09:58 PM
Can Marquez do it? Beat that punk....

MatchFederer
09-19-2009, 10:07 PM
Can Marquez do it? Beat that punk....

Hopefully not.

MatchFederer
09-20-2009, 04:57 AM
Well, Mayweather thoroughly outclassed Marquez in dominant style! It was a unanimous decision on the scorecards and he knocked down Marquez in round 3 and was never troubled. Mayweather landed 59 % of his punches as opposed to I think it was 7 or 11% from Marquez.

This victory was supremely impressive, with Marquez being a consensus pound 4 pound number 2, and yet despite this, the difference in class and ability (and weight) was all too apparent.

Mayweather was superior in all departments, out countering the counter puncher, out thinking the tactical thinker. He was faster, stronger, punched harder and you could have never have guessed by watching this fight that Marquez could possibly be one of the worlds great fighter; Mayweather was that good.

Mayweather was on a different planet, and we should expect him to improve now that he has got warmed up again.

The man is BACK.

rocketassist
09-20-2009, 04:59 AM
Not a fan of FM but he is one absolute genius. He just dodges everything, glides past every attack, like a super version of Nadal/Murray who can't be hurt by offense.

Madness.

Pacquiao won't beat him. He's indestructible.

MatchFederer
09-20-2009, 05:03 AM
Not a fan of FM but he is one absolute genius. He just dodges everything, glides past every attack, like a super version of Nadal/Murray who can't be hurt by offense.

Madness.

Pacquiao won't beat him. He's indestructible.

Definitely agree here. Mayweather's overall skill set is simply phenominal. He lacks some fire power compared to some others - for example Roy Jones and Meldrick Taylor could put together greater combinations and with more power pound for pound (Roy Jones). Everything else though is completely brilliant, defense, ring craft, adaptability, chin, accuracy, stamina, foot speed, hand speed. All of those aspects are an A plus maybe with the exception of chin but only because he is so damn good that he never gets clocked hard, so to a degree it is unproven.

The other question would be his heart, but I bet if faced with adversity it would show up pretty big.

Edit:

He has so many supreme statistical performances against many other good - great fighters. Depending on what path he goes down now he could end his career with being considered as top 5 or higher pound for pound in history, though I feel his belligerent and aggressive nature won't help his cause at all in the eyes of the critics, but especially the masses.

MatchFederer
09-20-2009, 05:15 AM
http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/7209/money-back-mayweather-thoroughly-outclasses-marquez-wins-decision/

MONEY'S BACK: Mayweather Thoroughly Outclasses Marquez, Wins Decision
By Michael Woods

He made it look so simple, one wondered why Floyd Mayweather couldn’t summon the resolve to make 144 pounds on Friday. After 21 months away from the ring, Mayweather’s speed and power were in full bloom in the main event at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on Saturday night. He sent Juan Manuel Marquez, who looked small and slow compared to Mayweather, to the canvas in the second round, and if he had chosen to, likely could have dropped and stopped the Mexican hitter. The judges cards were as wide as they should’ve been: 118-109, 120-107, 119-108, a unanimous decision for Mayweather.

TSS agreed with the 120-107 card. Floyd went 290-493, a 59% connect percentage, while Marquez was 69-583 (12%).



Will the boxer, who complained earlier this week that sports fans in the US have racist tendencies, and this diminishes his popularity, see an uptick in that department? Not likely, as many will say Marquez was damaged goods, too old and light, coming in to the event. The stain from Mayweather “buying” a weight advantage, and forcing Marquez to make 144, while he didn’t have to, will linger in the minds of fight fans. Pro Floyd fans will be of the mind that with this showing he has retaken his pound for pound crown, with no close challenger, because his domination was so thorough. I choose to buy into arguments from both camps; Marquez did show the age that had Juan Diaz schooling him early in their battle, and Floyd possesses such acumen, and makes it look so easy in the flow, that right now, to me, he has to be seen as the best boxer in the world.



Mayweather strolled to the ring with WWE entertainer Triple H. When Michael Buffer called out his name, as Jim Lampley recounted the laundry list of alleged misdeeds and allegations against him and his family, mostly boos rained down, but there were some cheers, as well.



Mayweather (40-0; from Michigan; 146 pounds on Friday, ? on fight night; a six time titlist) and “Dinimita” Marquez (50-5-1; from Mexico; 142 pounds on Friday; 148 pounds on fight night; a three time titlist) were overseen by ref Tony Weeks. Burt Clements, Bill Lerch and Dave Moretti were charged with scoring the bout.

In the first round, we saw that Mayweather looked a class, maybe two, bigger than Marquez. Floyd’s jabs looked thudding and his hooks hurtful. Lead hooks clanged home early, and left marks behind. No rust was apparent on Floyd. Roger Mayweather worked Floyd’s corner and Floyd Senior looked on from the stands. In the second, lead left hooks worked for Floyd again. Marquez landed a right, and the crowd roared, and Floyd grinned. Then Floyd knocked Marquez down with a left hook, with 1:25 left in the round. He threw it as Marquez was readying a right. Floyd backed off then, careful not to get suckered. In the third, Marquez was beaten to the punch, repeatedly, by Floyd’s speedballs. He wasn’t slipping effectively, but Floyd offered a 50% round, effort-wise. It was still enough to win the session. “Left hooks, that’s all he has,” Nacho Beristain told Marquez. In the fourth, Marquez hit with a straight right as Floyd was on the ropes. Some blood appeared on Marquez’ right eye. In the fifth, Marquez was able to excite the crowd when he came forward. He looked like he was warmed up, and he was helped by Floyd’s choice to back up, and get some work in. “He’s winning it,” said Beristain after the fifth, rightly. In the sixth, Floyd bounced, and grinned, totally certain that even if by chance Marquez landed, nothing would come of it. A right cross by Mayweather at the end of the round landed flush, but Marquez saw it coming, and didn’t crumple. Ref Weeks asked him if he wanted to continue, and he did. Marquez advanced on Floyd at the end of the round, but couldn’t cut off the ring. One wondered if Floyd wanted to get rounds in in the middle rounds. He played peekaboo on the ropes in the eighth, and just covered up as Marquez labored in vain. Lampley and Kellerman got a bit bored, and talked about Shane Mosley, who Max said had been trying to lure Mayweather into a fight for eight years. In the ninth, Floyd came right down the middle, cutting through Marquez’ guard, or beating him to the punch as he started to wind up. Floyd’s one-jab-at-a-time strategy worked wonders; he’d deliver one, pause to collect himself and read the Mexican’s reaction, and repeat. Harold Lederman had it 9-0, Floyd, to this point. Lampley said that Floyd was landing 57% of his punches, and wondered if the Sugar Rays did the same. Floyd should be reminded of this the next time he tries to belittle the HBO crew. HBO didn’t go to Floyd’s corner to listen in to Uncle Roger, as Floyd banned them from doing so. Amazing, considering that HBO provided the infrastructure and platform to allow him to show off his considerable skills. For now, and for the future, they will put up with his petulance, because they make buckets of money off of him. But oh how they must grit their teeth at his antics…



In the 11th, Marquez stuck around, that’s about the most you can say for him. “Throw your combinations,” said a resigned Beristain. Floyd didn’t go all in, and try and close the show, which is to me, bizarre. Is there anyone out there who thought that with a super-sustained barrage, he wouldn’t have stopped Marquez. We’d go to the cards, after a strong Mayweather showing, in a drama free tussle.





Come back for David Avila’s ringside report.



---Mayweather told HBO he would not agree to being weighed on their unofficial scale on fight night; Marquez agreed, and he was 148. Before the bout, Marquez trainer Nacho Beristain said that he thought Mayweather refused to make 144 to “secure the victory.” He said he expected Mayweather to be 152 pounds on fight night. Marquez was also asked about Floyd’s weight issue. He told Max Kellerman that “this isn’t a problem, overall an issue it’s not going to be an issue for us.”

---Marquez said he would rather have had Floyd make the weight, as opposed to earning an extra $300,000 per pound over 144 charged to Mayweather, for a total of $600,000. Mayweather, we learned, refused to do a fighter-commentary crew meeting on Friday, and also nixed a pre-fight interview with Kellerman prior to his bout.

---Lampley said the arena looked pretty close to capacity.

Clydey
09-20-2009, 11:04 AM
Definitely agree here. Mayweather's overall skill set is simply phenominal. He lacks some fire power compared to some others - for example Roy Jones and Meldrick Taylor could put together greater combinations and with more power pound for pound (Roy Jones). Everything else though is completely brilliant, defense, ring craft, adaptability, chin, accuracy, stamina, foot speed, hand speed. All of those aspects are an A plus maybe with the exception of chin but only because he is so damn good that he never gets clocked hard, so to a degree it is unproven.

The other question would be his heart, but I bet if faced with adversity it would show up pretty big.

Edit:

He has so many supreme statistical performances against many other good - great fighters. Depending on what path he goes down now he could end his career with being considered as top 5 or higher pound for pound in history, though I feel his belligerent and aggressive nature won't help his cause at all in the eyes of the critics, but especially the masses.

Pacquiao is the only fighter with a real shot, for two reasons.

Firstly, he's a lefty. Mayweather is slightly more susceptible to the left simply because of how he defends, with the left shoulder raised up underneath the chin.

Secondly, he's more susceptible to straight shots. You might as well not throw hooks, nor come in from angles. The only way you're getting a clean hit on Mayweather, unless you catch him while he's throwing, is straight down the pipe. Pacquiao is about the only fighter I can think of who throws those types of shots.

Thirdly, he has the speed to match Mayweather. Pac is lightnining quick.

This fight has to happen. The only way it won't happen is if Mayweather is unreasonable about the purse. Pacquiao is a bigger draw and he needs to accept that. It's a big risk for Mayweather, putting his undefeated record on the line against easily his biggest challenge (although I still maintain that Castillo won their first fight). If he beats Pacquiao, he could do down as the greatest ever.

MatchFederer
09-20-2009, 06:39 PM
Pacquiao is the only fighter with a real shot, for two reasons.

Firstly, he's a lefty. Mayweather is slightly more susceptible to the left simply because of how he defends, with the left shoulder raised up underneath the chin.

Secondly, he's more susceptible to straight shots. You might as well not throw hooks, nor come in from angles. The only way you're getting a clean hit on Mayweather, unless you catch him while he's throwing, is straight down the pipe. Pacquiao is about the only fighter I can think of who throws those types of shots.

Thirdly, he has the speed to match Mayweather. Pac is lightnining quick.

This fight has to happen. The only way it won't happen is if Mayweather is unreasonable about the purse. Pacquiao is a bigger draw and he needs to accept that. It's a big risk for Mayweather, putting his undefeated record on the line against easily his biggest challenge (although I still maintain that Castillo won their first fight). If he beats Pacquiao, he could do down as the greatest ever.

I agree with your analysis, the lefty bit in particular.

However, I don't agree about Pacman being the bigger draw. Not after last nights performance. Floyd has achieved some mega pay per view figures before, greater than Pac's I believe. The purse should probably be 50/50, but I bet Mayweather demands around about 60/40. Things could change though after Pacquiao vs Cotto, depending on the result and how it will be achieved.

Also, I think he would have to do more than beat Pacquiao to go down as the greatest ever. The initial ricochet would result in such claims, but after the dust has settled all the major critics and the masses alike would want him to try and clear out the welterweight division against the numerous top names within it (very deep division). They will cite the fact that Pacquiao and Marquez were, in reality, both smaller men than Mayweather. People will wanna see him up against Mosley, Cotto and maybe even somebody like Paul Williams.

As for Castillo winning that first encounter, I need to watch the fight again but I remember scoring it for Castillo first time round. Mayweather returned though and did a job on him. Pacman on the other hand was arguably given TWO gift decisions.

Let's hope Pacquiao beats Cotto in November...

The fight has to be made.

Clydey
11-14-2009, 08:09 PM
Big fight night tonight. Both boxing and UFC events are being held this evening. Any predictions for the big fights?

I reckon Pacquiao knocks Cotto out, what with Miguel have a jaw like a chandelier. I also predict a Vera knockout over Couture, unfortunately. Randy doesn't have the punch resistance he used to have.

Polikarpov
11-15-2009, 04:53 AM
Congrats Manny!

whattheheck
11-15-2009, 04:55 AM
Yay Manny!

theMEESH
11-15-2009, 05:16 AM
fuck yeah! :woohoo:

much more interesting than the de la hoya or hatton fight.

anyone else notice that manny smiles at the end of the round while walking to his corner?

Jōris
11-15-2009, 06:45 AM
Two guys trying to cause brain damage to their opponent is not a sport.

http://www.djc.com/blogs/BuildingGreen/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/shaking-finger.jpg

Henry Chinaski
11-15-2009, 07:58 AM
poor effort arend

had a treble on tonight on the ufc, tip from my obssessive friend. couture, swick and kang I think. was planning on watching it but I just came to after a hard night. dunno how the bet even got on

Clydey
11-15-2009, 10:08 AM
poor effort arend

had a treble on tonight on the ufc, tip from my obssessive friend. couture, swick and kang I think. was planning on watching it but I just came to after a hard night. dunno how the bet even got on

That's the opposite of my predictions. Only one I got wrong was Couture. He was handed a gift decision, though.

Corey Feldman
11-15-2009, 03:52 PM
Pacman is a f'en animal

momo_momo
11-15-2009, 04:31 PM
I watched HBO's 24/7 before the match and I was kinda displeased with Pacman. Cotto was far more presevering.

So watching the match, I was like, trembling maybe Manny will not win this... Well, this is how I feel for his past matches ever since De La Hoya.

I am impressed with both players. Race just sentences me to liking Pacquiao more.

About Vera though... he didn't come strong, he should've gave it his all. The validity of the judges' decision could never be complained at.

Lyota up next for Randy...

Jōris
11-16-2009, 09:21 AM
poor effort

Poor effort? That's what she said!

Thank you, I'll be here all week.

theMEESH
11-16-2009, 09:50 AM
I wonder how my fambam in the PI celebrated :scratch:

Filo V.
11-16-2009, 02:42 PM
Cotto started out pretty well, using his jab. But as soon as Manny sunk his teeth into the match, it was over. Manny needs to really go against someone who will REALLY challenge him. If not PBF, definitely Sugar Shane. Manny was too fast and explosive for Cotto.

theMEESH
11-16-2009, 02:43 PM
but compared to the last two with hatton and de la hoya... this one was more interesting... at least in the beginning.

paying for pay per view this time was worth it...

unlike the hatton fight :(

Everko
11-16-2009, 02:53 PM
I hope Pacquiao destroys Mayweather if they ever of fighting

theMEESH
11-16-2009, 02:56 PM
mee too. but then again... I root for just about every Filipino in mainstream media. We need more inspiring people :D

Everko
11-16-2009, 02:59 PM
yeah you do. Phillipnes is a lot of population but they have hardly any good athletes.

manuel84
11-16-2009, 03:46 PM
Manny was too fast and explosive for Cotto.

And too cunning as well. He was wary of the Cotto left jab from a distance so what he did was lure the Puerto Rican to move in with power shots w/c he deflected with superior hand/foot speed and punches coming from all angles. A big risk but it worked.

Everyone's now clamoring for a showdown w/ Diva Floydie who wants a 65% share of the ppv revenue.

Filo V.
11-16-2009, 03:56 PM
And too cunning as well. He was wary of the Cotto left jab from a distance so what he did was lure the Puerto Rican to move in with power shots w/c he deflected with his superior hand/foot speed and punches coming from all angles. A big risk but it worked.

Everyone's now clamoring for a showdown w/ Diva Floydie who wants a 65% share of the ppv revenue.

Exactly right, and as soon as Cotto went away from the jab, there was going to only be one winner. As soon as Cotto started winding up on his punches, Manny had already landed flush shots of his own. Manny can throw punches at such angles that no-one can see them, and he is so pinpoint and quick with his punches and how he gets in position to throw them, he can seem like he is not doing much, and them BANG. But it was definitely a fun and interesting fight for the fans, more exciting than most other fights I have seen recently.

I really want to see Floyd fight Mosley first, and then fight Manny. Floyd needs to fight someone who will truly give him a match, and one where he isn't so clearly overmatching his opponent.

Clydey
11-17-2009, 10:51 PM
Cotto started out pretty well, using his jab. But as soon as Manny sunk his teeth into the match, it was over. Manny needs to really go against someone who will REALLY challenge him. If not PBF, definitely Sugar Shane. Manny was too fast and explosive for Cotto.

Floyd is the only one. Mosley has no chance. He's in the midst of a resurgence, but he's not in Pacquiao's league.

fast_clay
11-17-2009, 11:17 PM
i didnt see the cotto stoppage coming when that fight was announced... but, can manny unlock the mayweather defence...?

Byrd
11-18-2009, 03:22 AM
Mayweather would win, too big and his style is alot superior than others with the same kind of counter-punching that have given Manny fits before. Only problem is that Floyd is a massive dick and expects to get more from the purse, so the fight might not happen for a while.

fast_clay
11-18-2009, 03:48 AM
hatton vs marquez announced tonight too... well... i am sure i wasnt hearing things...

Filo V.
05-02-2010, 04:47 AM
Well, today was the big fight of Mayweather vs. Mosley. Major ticket sales and PPV sales on the fight. Overall, it was an interesting and pretty exciting fight. Mosley hurt Floyd really badly in the second round with a huge right that landed flush and Floyd just about went down. From that point on, PBF absolutely destroyed Mosley. And people who say Floyd runs, the one running today was Mosley.

So Floyd won by unanimous decision, time for Floyd and Manny to fight, no-one else is on their level.

ImmzB
05-02-2010, 10:54 AM
Got 2 give Mayweather credit after the 2nd Round, he dominated the fight!!

KHAN V MALIGNAGGI!!

JUAN DIAZ V MARQUEZ ||

Corey Feldman
05-02-2010, 07:47 PM
cant say Suger Shane ran, Mayweather was just too fast for him in every department and like many when they box him.... they lose any belief or plan they had after 3 or 4 rounds and just get battered and made to look bad for the rest of the night

theMEESH
05-02-2010, 11:21 PM
vamos pacman!

Corey Feldman
05-02-2010, 11:23 PM
Yes i wish they would make that fight happen

i think there is too much for both of them to lose

theMEESH
05-02-2010, 11:26 PM
i know, right? i missed out on why they didn't do the fight in the first place. do you know why?

i'm excited for it to happen, if it ever does.... i just feel sorry for anyone who gets injured here... a majority of Filipinos are nurses/work in the medical field and call in sick when Manny fights :rolls:

Corey Feldman
05-02-2010, 11:31 PM
yeah the big deal why it didnt happen was over drug testing and Mayweather wanted to make the rules and have Pacman tested before the fight or something. Pacman didnt agree and felt a)it would weaken him and b)Mayweather shouldnt be calling any shots

its well known by now Mayweather and his whole team think Manny is a steroid abuser

theMEESH
05-02-2010, 11:35 PM
i wonder if he is....

that would make me :sad:

Filo V.
05-03-2010, 12:17 PM
i wonder if he is....

that would make me :sad:

There are suspect things around Manny that would link him to that, but it's not anything solid, yet. It is interesting that most of the fighters have actually taken Floyd's side and agree he's on something. It's all speculation right now.

Filo V.
05-03-2010, 12:19 PM
cant say Suger Shane ran, Mayweather was just too fast for him in every department and like many when they box him.... they lose any belief or plan they had after 3 or 4 rounds and just get battered and made to look bad for the rest of the night

Yes, I agree, I guess what I was trying to say was, Floyd was the aggressive one, not Shane. But yeah, the difference in speed was simply too much for Shane to overcome, also Shane getting tired, and Floyd taking his best punch and still standing.

Ozone
05-06-2010, 08:22 PM
Cant believe I haven't posted in this thread!! PACMAN VS. MAYWEATHER when will it happen:(

Filo V.
05-16-2010, 03:42 AM
Amir Khan just beat the living shit out of Paulie Malignaggi tonight. Total destruction. Totally different class of fighters. Amir has really stepped up a level in my eyes, I always thought he was good, but man, that was shocking.

Filo V.
05-16-2010, 03:48 AM
Cant believe I haven't posted in this thread!! PACMAN VS. MAYWEATHER when will it happen:(November 13 it looks like.

Sophocles
05-16-2010, 03:49 AM
Amir Khan just beat the living shit out of Paulie Malignaggi tonight. Total destruction. Totally different class of fighters. Amir has really stepped up a level in my eyes, I always thought he was good, but man, that was shocking.

I'd say he was good, but not spectacular. Did what he had to do, good jab. Actually thought the southpaw in the previous bout - Cortiz? - put on the best display against Nate Campbell. Was quite outstanding.

Filo V.
05-16-2010, 04:13 AM
I'd say he was good, but not spectacular. Did what he had to do, good jab. Actually thought the southpaw in the previous bout - Cortiz? - put on the best display against Nate Campbell. Was quite outstanding.

That's what was shocking to me though. He wasn't overwhelming or going above himself and still dominated easily. I'd like to see Amir fight the winner of Bradley vs. Alexander, but especially Maidana, because he will make a fight and that will be exciting with the speed/skills/pop of Khan and pure power of Maidana. And Victor Ortiz, yeah, he's really good, high level foot and hand speed and really good accuracy and pop with his punches. Campbell looked washed up, though. Ortiz quit vs. Maidana and I have a hard time forgetting that match, but he's matured and gotten better since then.

ImmzB
05-16-2010, 11:52 AM
Khan all the way!!

He fought well! Malignaggi couldn't touch him.

I say next for Khan should either be Ortiz, Maidana or Katsidis....

I don't think he will either fight Bradley or Alexander in his next fight.

Sophocles
05-16-2010, 02:45 PM
That's what was shocking to me though. He wasn't overwhelming or going above himself and still dominated easily. I'd like to see Amir fight the winner of Bradley vs. Alexander, but especially Maidana, because he will make a fight and that will be exciting with the speed/skills/pop of Khan and pure power of Maidana. And Victor Ortiz, yeah, he's really good, high level foot and hand speed and really good accuracy and pop with his punches. Campbell looked washed up, though. Ortiz quit vs. Maidana and I have a hard time forgetting that match, but he's matured and gotten better since then.

That's true. Malinaggi was slippery to begin with, but after a few rounds Khan started to pick him off pretty comfortably. Maidana against Khan would be good. Ortiz really impressed me, particularly his footwork - never seemed to slow at all. Okay, so he lost that time to Maidana, but Khan's loss to Prescott was far worse and it's clear he's learned from it. Looks as though Ortiz has done the same.

Corey Feldman
05-16-2010, 03:55 PM
would have liked to have seen more explosive stuff from Khan tbh

rocketassist
05-16-2010, 03:58 PM
Khan was always too powerful even if he didn't go mad against a counterpuncher like Malignaggi.

Hatton was fat when he spanked Paulie. There aren't many big fights at LW though, only welter.

Mjau!
05-21-2010, 09:17 PM
I can't believe they haven't banned this barbaric sport yet. :rolleyes: Brain damage much? :retard:

It is somewhat entertaining though... :angel:

buddyholly
05-22-2010, 02:38 AM
I can't believe they haven't banned this barbaric sport yet. :rolleyes: Brain damage much? :retard:



It goes without saying that when Ingemar Johansson retired the sport lost all its relevance and was taken over by dope fiends.

allpro
11-15-2010, 09:21 PM
pac is a fucking animal.

rios is a little douchebag.

cheaterito is one tough hombre.

Thanos
11-15-2010, 09:31 PM
mayweather needs to man up and fight pacman.

Corey Feldman
11-15-2010, 09:36 PM
mayweather needs to man up and fight pacman.Never gonna happen

funny thing is, i think he'd still beat Pacman on points

they both have too much to lose but Mayweather is the bigger chicken

theMEESH
11-15-2010, 09:44 PM
I can't believe that video that popped up a few days before of the Margarito team making fun of Roach's parkinsons. SMH

allpro
11-16-2010, 12:00 AM
Never gonna happen

funny thing is, i think he'd still beat Pacman on points


pac of ’04 - ’05 (jmm I, el terrible I) would easily lose to fraudweather on points. however, he’s no longer the same one-dimensional fighter (double jab followed by straight left) and has improved his power and maintained his footspeed as he’s climbed up in weight.

floyd, on the other hand, looked vulnerable against mosely and has definitely lost some footspeed (due to low activity and age). he’ll have major problems trying to fend off manny for 12 rounds and will eventually get caught and hurt. he’s never faced a fighter with such a high workrate or dynamic punching power, and with his pillow fists, i just don’t see how he can hurt manny. he’ll also turn 34 yo next year so i don’t expect his speed to suddenly return.

prediction:

floyd dominates the early rounds with his slick counter-punching skills and jab, but he eventually gets caught in the middle rounds and manny takes over.

115-113....pac by unanimous decision.

Priam
11-16-2010, 01:21 AM
pac of ’04 - ’05 (jmm I, el terrible I) would easily lose to fraudweather on points. however, he’s no longer the same one-dimensional fighter (double jab followed by straight left) and has improved his power and maintained his footspeed as he’s climbed up in weight.

floyd, on the other hand, looked vulnerable against mosely and has definitely lost some footspeed (due to low activity and age). he’ll have major problems trying to fend off manny for 12 rounds and will eventually get caught and hurt. he’s never faced a fighter with such a high workrate or dynamic punching power, and with his pillow fists, i just don’t see how he can hurt manny. he’ll also turn 34 yo next year so i don’t expect his speed to suddenly return.

prediction:

floyd dominates the early rounds with his slick counter-punching skills and jab, but he eventually gets caught in the middle rounds and manny takes over.

115-113....pac by unanimous decision.

Hope it finally happens next year. It would be great as Pac's last fight before retiring.

allpro
11-16-2010, 02:59 AM
pacquiao v. margarito, cowboys stadium 11-13-10

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Nathaliia
12-10-2010, 03:14 AM
Adamek :clap2:

ImmzB
12-11-2010, 12:15 PM
Khan v Maidana!!! :boxing:

Khan all the way!! :armed:

Corey Feldman
12-11-2010, 12:21 PM
Best of Luck Amir

ImmzB
12-12-2010, 03:55 AM
AMIR "KING" KHAN!!! :woohoo:

WHAT A FIGHT!!!! :armed:

KHAN ALL THE WAY!!

fast_clay
12-12-2010, 03:57 AM
:rocker2: khan

Corey Feldman
12-14-2010, 05:53 PM
good win by Amir but i was far from impressed and he rode his luck

i dont quite know why Khan and the media (they are british i suppose) are all worshipping this new chin of his

ok he survived but only after staggering around the ring like a drunk for 3 minutes

he's still not explosive enough to win even 1 round against Mayweather or PacMan

ImmzB
12-16-2010, 08:34 PM
Khan v Judah next most probaly in the UK. :)

fast_clay
12-17-2010, 12:52 AM
watched the fight a couple of times... but this is a good highlight reel.... yeah, khan got beat up in the 10th... his clinching after getting rocked was a bit ropey... then again, he was genuinely wobbly... was a good recovery all in all though...

judah at home would be a great homecoming...

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fast_clay
12-19-2010, 09:41 AM
old nard, 45 yrs old, going to canada to fight the 28 yrs old champ, knocked down twice early, gets up, knocks down champ in 11th round...draw! ... Warrior... B-hop, you might be dirty messy, but :worship: whichever corporate body wins the right to hopkins dna could clone an army of beasts

Filo V.
12-19-2010, 08:42 PM
Khan is really entertaining to watch. As he gets more famous worldwide, he's going to be really major, if his chin holds up and he continues to develop his skills. He's not quite ready for the big time but he's young so he's got time.

B-Hop won the fight last night. The American judge scored for Bernard, and the French-Belgian and Canadian scored it even. Boxing politics rearing it's ugly head, again.

allpro
04-06-2011, 12:26 AM
good win by Amir but i was far from impressed and he rode his luck

i dont quite know why Khan and the media (they are british i suppose) are all worshipping this new chin of his

ok he survived but only after staggering around the ring like a drunk for 3 minutes

accurate assessment.



fight camp 360 pacquiao- mosley, episode 1

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fast_clay
04-06-2011, 01:00 AM
Upcoming Fights

Saturday, Apr. 9 - at Las Vegas, NV (HBO)
Juan Manuel Marquez - Erik Morales

KATSIDIS VS GUERRERO APRIL 9 - LAS VEGAS <= POTENTIAL FIGHT OF THE YEAR

Saturday, Apr. 16 - at Manchester, England
Amir Khan - Paul McCloskey

Saturday, Apr. 16 - at San Juan, Puerto Rico (Showtime)
Juan Manuel Lopez - Orlando Salido

Saturday, Apr. 16 - at Spodek, Poland
Tomasz Adamek - TBA

Saturday, Apr. 23 - at Los Angeles, CA (Showtime)
Joseph Agbeko - Abner Mares

Saturday, May 7 - at Las Vegas, NV (SHO PPV)
Manny Pacquiao - Shane Mosley

Saturday, May 21 - at London, United Kingdom (Showtime)
Carl Froch - Glen Johnson

fast_clay
04-06-2011, 01:13 AM
Boxing terror as undefeated female star is shot 'by her stepfather' ahead of title fight
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER

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Rola El-Halabi: The undisputed champion's career is in the balance after she was shot in the hands, feet and knees
A top woman boxer's career is hanging in the balance after she was shot by a man believed to be her stepfather.
German Rola El-Halabi, 25, was shot in the hand, knee and feet before a title fight on Friday night. The 44-year-old alleged attacker was also her former manager.
The undefeated fighter was preparing to fight Irma Balijagic Adler from Bosnia for the vacant IBF lightweight title when the man went to her dressing room and shot her.
Berlin police sources said that two security guards were also shot before the gunman was arrested.
All three victims were taken to a local hospital where they underwent surgery.
Police said their injuries were not life threatening.
El-Halabi, who was born in Lebanon, won the WIBF and WIBA world titles in 2009 and has an 11-0 career record, with six knockouts.
Sunday's edition of Bild newspaper identified the gunman as Roy El-Halabi and reported that 800 spectators were evacuated from the boxing arena.
Rola El-Halabi told the German daily: 'Papa rushed into the room. He threatened us with a gun in his hand and shouted "Everyone out," and then he shot me in the hand from three metres. I cried and screamed.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1373089/Boxer-Rola-El-Halabi-shot-stepfather-ahead-title-fight.html#ixzz1IhXDCv72

allpro
04-06-2011, 01:14 AM
Upcoming Fights

Saturday, Apr. 9 - at Las Vegas, NV (HBO)
Juan Manuel Marquez marcos maidana - Erik Morales

fixed.

it's a shame el terrible and jmm never fought in their primes.

KATSIDIS VS GUERRERO APRIL 9 - LAS VEGAS <= POTENTIAL FIGHT OF THE YEAR


should be a good one.

fast_clay
04-06-2011, 01:21 AM
fixed.

it's a shame el terrible and jmm never fought in their primes.



should be a good one.

cheers.. just did the quick copy n paste from eastsideboxing.com... they pretty slack... had to add the kat vs guererro which is a barnburner...

yeah man, so many bouts dodged in last era... regardless of the barren heavyweight division, it could have been a golden era but for the alphabet soup and network showdowns we're forced to live with as boxing fans...

allpro
04-06-2011, 01:29 AM
yeah man, so many bouts dodged in last era... regardless of the barren heavyweight division, it could have been a golden era but for the alphabet soup and network showdowns we're forced to live with as boxing fans...

promoter wars too :sad: (i.e. bob arum and golden boy).

fast_clay
07-02-2011, 08:43 PM
big fight in a few minutes

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Corey Feldman
07-02-2011, 09:23 PM
lets get ready to Rumbleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Corey Feldman
07-02-2011, 09:24 PM
ring entrances took about 30 minutes

fast_clay
07-02-2011, 09:28 PM
klitshko looks like he about to commit homicide

Corey Feldman
07-02-2011, 09:43 PM
Vlad dominating with the jab early

fast_clay
07-02-2011, 09:50 PM
yeah... the klit is showing good game here... haye will need to find some magic

fast_clay
07-02-2011, 10:16 PM
straight sets klit i think.... a near shut out

Certinfy
07-02-2011, 10:18 PM
Haye fucked this up. Oh well.

ImmzB
07-02-2011, 10:23 PM
Man!! :mad: :sad:

Jelena
07-02-2011, 10:25 PM
I'm happy bigmouth got shut up.

ImmzB
07-02-2011, 10:26 PM
When you talk the talk, you have to walk the walk! Sadly Haye didn't! :( Haye should of attacked more and took the fight to Wladimir!!!

Corey Feldman
07-02-2011, 10:28 PM
Haye was too small compared to that beast, he was dominated by the Jab - every expert seen it happening

being interviewed and Haye has turned into Nadal "i'm injured, i hurt my foot" :lol:

Ben.
07-02-2011, 10:28 PM
Feel sorry for anyone who payed for that.

fast_clay
07-02-2011, 10:41 PM
Haye was too small compared to that beast, he was dominated by the Jab - every expert seen it happening

being interviewed and Haye has turned into Nadal "i'm injured, i hurt my foot" :lol:

you need to be a mike tyson 9 minute KO merchant to be that size and take down the big men...

they just dont make them like iron mike anymore...

as for the foot injury, very nadal-like

bad gambler
07-02-2011, 10:51 PM
That was a great advertisement for MMA

dijus
07-02-2011, 11:19 PM
That was a great advertisement for MMA

this

well, we saw incredibly shitty battle, it was really pathetic 'show'. If they both were born 10-12 years earlier, they both would not have ANY chances to take titles...

Sophocles
07-03-2011, 03:33 AM
To be honest, after Haye's childish pre-fight bragging & insults and Klit's contrasting dignity in response, I can't say I'm displeased by this result. I know Haye was trying to rile Klitschko to get him to come in closer & attack, but it was naive to expect that to work. Watched the fight in a local pub and it was apparent to the audience after 4 rounds that Haye had no chance.

ImmzB
07-23-2011, 08:46 PM
Khan vs Judah!!!! Early sunday morning!!

Come on Khan!! :armed: :boxing:

ImmzB
07-24-2011, 03:26 AM
AMIR KHAN!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :rocker2: Total Domination today performance over Zab Judah! Still the WBA Champion & The New IBF Champion of the World!! Come On!! Hopefully Bradley doesn't refuse the fight this time and they can fight in December! #TEAMKHAN

fast_clay
07-24-2011, 03:42 AM
bradley has no other option... and khan has more bargaining power now too... fight will happen for sure immy...

GugaF1
07-24-2011, 10:20 AM
Where is the MMA thread? Boxing is dead. Too limited of a sport compared to MMA.

fast_clay
07-24-2011, 10:38 AM
Where is the MMA thread? Boxing is dead. Too limited of a sport compared to MMA.

not an mma fan but a big boxing fan...and let me tell you my friend, the success of mma is the best thing to happen to boxing...it's what needs to happen to boxing...

Boxing Will never die, it Just won't...but you see a lot of old heads dominating for longer...and it's not Just due to better health alone...the sport is fractured...has been for a long time...mma Will continue to take the market share from the fight fan until the seventeen alphabet boxing titles are weakened to the point where they must merge or are bought out entirely... Two or preferably one world title per weight... Believe me, for the boxing fan, the continued success of mma is a good thing...

GugaF1
07-24-2011, 10:53 AM
not an mma fan but a big boxing fan...and let me tell you my friend, the success of mma is the best thing to happen to boxing...it's what needs to happen to boxing...

Boxing Will never die, it Just won't...but you see a lot of old heads dominating for longer...and it's not Just due to better health alone...the sport is fractured...has been for a long time...mma Will continue to take the market share from the fight fan until the seventeen alphabet boxing titles are weakened to the point where they must merge or are bought out entirely... Two or preferably one world title per weight... Believe me, for the boxing fan, the continued success of mma is a good thing...

Right, there are a lot of things from boxing which I like, specially the history of it. In my view, the problem with boxing is that the fighters have too much control so they demand too many conditions to fight and act like divas, like Mayweather. I think the organization should have more control as a whole like it happens on MMA so the competition is more fluid and less stagnated.

ImmzB
07-24-2011, 12:56 PM
bradley has no other option... and khan has more bargaining power now too... fight will happen for sure immy...

Yeah hopefully, I just hope Khan doesn't fight Eric Morales! No disrespect to Morales who has had a great career but Khan will dominate that fight with his speed and power. Morales fought a very good fight in his last match against Maidana which he just lost, even some people thought he won it. He will also be 35 if they do fight each other.

It should be Bradley defiantly, both of them hold 2 belts each in the division!! If Prescott beats McCloskey in September maybe Khan vs Prescott 2 in around April time but Khan wants to move up after his December fight, I know all Khan fans want him to fight him again and beat him but Prescott hasn't done anything since knocking Khan out in 2008.

Possible other options for the December fight:

Timothy Bradley
Winner of Maidana/Robert Guerrero
Devon Alexander

At 140, it has to be 1 of the above names IMHO.

Corey Feldman
07-24-2011, 04:28 PM
:lol: Judah, utter pussy ghetto husler

was looking for a way out of the fight after 2 minutes and then tried to act like that was a low blow

thinks the rest of the world are as stupid as him

Kat_YYZ
09-18-2011, 04:16 AM
:eek: Ortiz headbutt... Mayweather sucker punch?!?

MatchFederer
09-18-2011, 04:23 AM
:eek: Ortiz headbutt... Mayweather sucker punch?!?

Hehe. Thanks!


Wow, what drama, really!

Questionable stuff, but SAVVY from Mayweather. Sneaky and cunning, but legal, and fine. So much naivety and inexperience from Ortiz, whom was being outclassed in the bout up to that point anyway.

Floyd was accurate, aggressive and came to fight and he looked strong and fast. However he seemed a tad bit slower and had less natural timing in offense than I've seen in the past; whether that's age, his opponent and/or altered tactics and their ramifications, is another matter.

Corey Feldman
09-18-2011, 04:23 AM
Ortiz pussied out, he done nothing for 4 rounds and wanted out of there, he couldnt stop smiling and wanting to hug Mayweather after he got KO'd and he play acted the KO imo

Larry Merchant is my most favorite man in the world for tonight

absolutely destroyed Mayweather in the post fight interview and reduced him to the abusive loud mouthed gangster he thinks he is :lol:

Merchant "if i were 50 years younger i'd kick your ass" :lol:

MatchFederer
09-18-2011, 04:26 AM
Ortiz pussied out, he done nothing for 4 rounds and wanted out of there, he couldnt stop smiling and wanting to hug Mayweather after he got KO'd and he play acted the KO imo

Larry Merchant is my most favorite man in the world for tonight

absolutely destroyed Mayweather in the post fight interview and reduced him to the abusive loud mouthed gangster he thinks he is :lol:

Merchant "if i were 50 years younger i'd kick your ass" :lol:

The punches rocked Ortiz badly, no doubt.. however perhaps he could have got up before 10, indeed.

Yep, that deliberate headbutt showed Ortiz had already lost his mind. He has less heart and will than he claims and that has been demonstrated twice now against Maidana and now Mayweather.

P.s Larry Merchant is utter shit. I only speak the truth, Mayweather was reduced to that because of all the annoying crap Merchant always comes out with to Mayweather after his fights, so Mayweather was preempting it and lost his cool way too fast. At the same time that Mayweather behaved like a ''punk ass'', Merchant is about 15 years past his damned sell-by-date. Instead of just letting Mayweather carry on like a fool he was genuinely angered to the core by Mayweather's words and literally wanted to punch his face in; Mayweather bagged him at last.

Tough luck old man.

MatchFederer
09-18-2011, 04:34 AM
Lolmaximus at wiki already being updated for Merchant Monster.

''On September 18, 2011, Larry Merchant conducted a post-fight interview with Floyd Mayweather after his controversial knockout of Victor Ortiz in the fourth round. After Mayweather complained about never getting "a fair shake" and insults Merchant's talent as a commentator, Merchant responded "I wish I was 50 years younger and I'd kick your ass!" He received a standing ovation from the crowd, but later clarified "I don't really think I could've kick his ass, but I would've tried it!"''

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
09-18-2011, 04:34 AM
mayweather is a piece of shit

the sooner pacquiao knocks his ass out the better

ortiz = you stupid idiot- i know you were being respectful but you were in the ring with a coke head family and a wife beater- what did you expect man?

no honor with kentucky fried chicken mayweather

MatchFederer
09-18-2011, 04:40 AM
Lol, how can anybody really complain about Mayweather having no honour for fighting craftily but within the rules where as Ortiz clearly violated them with a deliberate headbutt. People's hatred of Mayweather blinds and strips them of their objectivity; sad show!


Epic drama tonight! Maybe Pacman and Floyd will both man up soon and make the superfight happen for 2012... Then a lot of people might finally get their wish of seeing Mayweather get KO'd. Though what's the betting that Mayweather takes another ''retirement''? LOL.

Corey Feldman
09-18-2011, 04:42 AM
professional or not i just like that Merchant is man enough to show his contempt for Mayweather where so many others fear

the guy is a criminal, woman beater, thief, racist, boastful, loud mouthed, nasty, greedy individual and all props to me for anyone who doesnt suffer this fool gladly, like Larry Merchant.

cant say the same for rest of the media types and Floyd's opponent tonight

that interview was better than the fight.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
09-18-2011, 04:43 AM
regardless of whether or not its in the rules- floyd knew full well that ortiz hug was sincere- he used that to sucker punch him

classless- there are ways of a gentleman
and there are ways of a vagabond

you can be classy or trashy

thankfully boxing has its classy pacquiao

i really REALLY want to see pacman or amir khan knock floyd out

i reaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllly hate him for that cheap shot tonight

it just wasn't sporting

Filo V.
09-18-2011, 04:43 AM
Protect yourself at all times.

MatchFederer
09-18-2011, 04:44 AM
Protect yourself at all times.

Ding Ding Ding ... aka

*Bingo!*

MatchFederer
09-18-2011, 04:47 AM
regardless of whether or not its in the rules- floyd knew full well that ortiz hug was sincere- he used that to sucker punch him

classless- there are ways of a gentleman
and there are ways of a vagabond

you can be classy or trashy

thankfully boxing has its classy pacquiao

i really REALLY want to see pacman or amir khan knock floyd out

i reaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllly hate him for that cheap shot tonight

it just wasn't sporting

Happens in tennis too, Nadal and Djokovic with dubious MTO's (words of MTF not mine).

Amir Khan is an outstanding prospect at the world level and might have a shot at Mayweather in time. we all know that Pacquiao Mayweather would be the biggest boxing bout since Lewis - Tyson. I just hope the fight will finally happen next year after Manny takes care of Marquez (despite already losing to Marquez at least once but official historical results tell a different story).

Filo V.
09-18-2011, 04:47 AM
It's all about victories. Class doesn't bring victories. Winning over the fighter you're going against in the ring is what brings you victories.

I've seen a lot of people these minutes after the fight talking about honor, morality, doing the "gentlemanly" think. Why should Floyd give a fuck about that? He's there to win, and he won, because Ortiz didn't protect himself after headbutting him intentionally. If anyone deserves criticism it's Ortiz and the referee.

Corey Feldman
09-18-2011, 04:49 AM
i still think Mayweather would beat Pacman after 12 rounds

but will he ever fight him, i doubt it... the guy cares more about his 0 loses and money making opportunities to risk losing a fight

he'll keep making excuses about the blood doping

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
09-18-2011, 04:51 AM
actually the protect yourself at all times wasn't in efect

the ref stopped them- ortiz put his hands down and hugged mayweather

the ref was looking away

mayweather cheap shot ortiz

ref didnt even see the punches- shocking ref- probably paid off by team wife beaters

Filo V.
09-18-2011, 04:53 AM
Floyd was controlling the 3rd and 4th rounds anyway, so it probably would have been either a UD or KO for him in the end. Ortiz hit him with a couple frantic flurry shots, and that was pretty much it. Mayweather totally controlled the fight when both were the middle of the ring.

Floyd now either has to fight one of the pound for pound elites or just step aside. Pacquaio, Martinez, Bradley. No more bullshit.

MatchFederer
09-18-2011, 04:53 AM
i still think Mayweather would beat Pacman after 12 rounds

but will he ever fight him, i doubt it... the guy cares more about his 0 loses and money making opportunities to risk losing a fight

he'll keep making excuses about the blood doping

At the end of the day, we don't know what the deal was. Mayweather asked for unprecedented drugs testing procedures as far as boxing is concerned but not unreasonable (athletes in some other sports subject to the same testing as was being asked for). Pacquaio declined, in fact his story changed so often and his teams story changed so often that it was a load of absolute bollox. Shane Mosley went through the drugs testing for the Mosley May fight that May asked Pac to go through. Team Mayweather even altered the offers and conditions a couple of times after previous ones were declined by Team Pac.


Truth be told, it seemed like both men semi-ducked each other. Maybe they'll both have the gall after Pacquaio deals with Marquez.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
09-18-2011, 04:53 AM
mayweather and nadal are the same

winning anyway possible

it makes sense that pacquiao is a federer fan

i remember the shocking Rland garros final where maria pasucal cheated with nadal and secretly won him the title by putting off roger- with their 1 minute between point delay tactics

shocking but considered ok by most tennis fans

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
09-18-2011, 04:55 AM
tim bradley is no elite- he ducked khan- and lets not get into bradleys "rhino" style headbutting

khan and pacquiao are obvious choices

but sergio martinez is probably the most dangerous guy- floyd wouldn't go near him though

of course floyd ducked paul williams for years

Filo V.
09-18-2011, 04:56 AM
No, I don't think Floyd will ever fight Manny. But I do think he'll fight more because he's got a lot of legal fees to pay. I think he's not quite as quick with his reflects as he used to be but he was starting to get in a groove before this fight ended.

Cortez actually pointed at the timekeeper and said "time in". Ortiz and Mayweather touched gloves. Ortiz was talking to the ref when the action was technically restarted. Floyd took advantage of the opportunity Victor gave him by trying to be buddy buddy.

MatchFederer
09-18-2011, 05:00 AM
Floyd was controlling the 3rd and 4th rounds anyway, so it probably would have been either a UD or KO for him in the end. Ortiz hit him with a couple frantic flurry shots, and that was pretty much it. Mayweather totally controlled the fight when both were the middle of the ring.

Floyd now either has to fight one of the pound for pound elites or just step aside. Pacquaio, Martinez, Bradley. No more bullshit.
That's exactly what he'll do; one or the other.

He fought a talented young fighter tonight though not a prospect who is as touted as say, Amir Khan or Timothy Bradley.

His last 5 opponents have on the whole been of excellent class. He fought a bigger man at a weightclass he had never fought at before (De La Hoya at 154); An Undefeated Hatton at 147 (Hatton not yet an experienced Welterweight but fight was considered a live one); Marquez, a smaller man but still p4p no.2 at the time; Mosley, who had been calling out Mayweather and had continued to prove himself as one of the best guys in the division - plus he was a Champion at the time; Ortiz, talented bigger and probably stronger, young fast fighter who is considered to be a talented prospect.


We can talk all day about various pros and cons but his last 5 opponents have all been quality boxers and so I have no doubt that if he chooses to continue fighting he'll take on somebody else who is respected and of a high caliber.

De La Hoya - Hatton - Marquez - Mosley - Ortiz - Bradley?/Pacquaio?/Khan?/Martinez?

I'd be ecstatic with Pacquiao or Martinez and would accept Bradley or Khan.

MatchFederer
09-18-2011, 05:01 AM
No, I don't think Floyd will ever fight Manny. But I do think he'll fight more because he's got a lot of legal fees to pay. I think he's not quite as quick with his reflects as he used to be but he was starting to get in a groove before this fight ended.

Cortez actually pointed at the timekeeper and said "time in". Ortiz and Mayweather touched gloves. Ortiz was talking to the ref when the action was technically restarted. Floyd took advantage of the opportunity Victor gave him by trying to be buddy buddy.

Fair and reasonable assessment on the moment of Floyd's victory.

Corey Feldman
09-18-2011, 05:01 AM
of course floyd ducked paul williams for yearssounds like a Floyd thing to do - avoid them when they are at their best

he is waiting for Pacman to decline

MatchFederer
09-18-2011, 05:02 AM
tim bradley is no elite- he ducked khan- and lets not get into bradleys "rhino" style headbutting

khan and pacquiao are obvious choices

but sergio martinez is probably the most dangerous guy- floyd wouldn't go near him though

of course floyd ducked paul williams for years

On the forums these days since Khan's destruction of Judah, he is considered to be the greater prospect now over Bradley.

Filo V.
09-18-2011, 05:02 AM
Bradley does drive in with his head too, he's a dirty guy. But he's also very fast and physical. He won't get overwhelmed physically by Mayweather and that's half the battle. He's also very technically sound. He wants to fight only Manny or Floyd pretty much, he's waiting them out.

Khan is rapidly improving and he has the speed, reach, reflects and power to keep up with Floyd too, but he's not as technically sound as the others.

I really don't know what the future holds for Floyd because if he refuses to step up to the elite level then he really has no value anymore promotionally. Ultimately he's going to do what he sees is to his benefit and not care about consequences.

MatchFederer
09-18-2011, 05:04 AM
sounds like a Floyd thing to do - avoid them when they are at their best

he is waiting for Pacman to decline

Paul Williams was continuously and grotesquely overrated. People claim Mayweather ducked Cotto and Margarito as well. At least suggesting those 2 names has more credence to it than seriously suggesting Mayweather ducked fucking Paul Williams. You must be in it for the lolz.

MatchFederer
09-18-2011, 05:07 AM
sounds like a Floyd thing to do - avoid them when they are at their best

he is waiting for Pacman to decline

Pacman has been taking on Mayweather's leftovers such as Hatton and Mosley and De La Hoya and has been fighting guys for a while now who have no chance of winning and at incredibly convenient times. He's considered a nice guy and a classy guy so people overlook these blatant truths. Many holes can be poked at Manny's last few fights as can Mayweather's. Truth is, both have fought good guys and some elite level fighters and over the course of their careers several elite level fighters.