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Bilbo
10-01-2007, 09:36 PM
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- A court has ordered pop singer Britney Spears to give up custody of her children effective Wednesday at noon.

Spears' former husband, Kevin Federline, is to retain custody of their two sons "until further order of the court," according to a ruling by Superior Court Judge Scott Gordon.

It was not clear what led to Monday's decision awarding Federline full custody. A transcript of the court proceedings was ordered sealed.

Last month, a judge ordered Spears, 25, to submit to random drug tests after finding she engaged in "habitual, frequent, and continuous use of controlled substances and alcohol."

That order, also by Gordon, provided no details and did not name any drugs.

The former couple has been embroiled in a bitter custody fight over their sons, Sean Preston and Jayden. The parents had split custody 50-50, but Federline then asked for the arrangements to be shifted to 70-30 in his favor.

In addition to ordering the twice-weekly drug tests, Gordon ordered Spears to spend eight hours per week working with a "parenting coach," who was to observe her interactions with her children.

Gordon also told both parents to avoid alcohol or "other non-prescription controlled substances" 12 hours before taking custody of the children.

He also barred the exes from making "derogatory remarks about the other party and the other party's family or significant other" during the case.

And he ordered the parents to go through "joint co-parenting counseling" and barred them from using corporal punishment on the boys.

Spears and Federline were married for two years before their divorce became final in July.

Monday's order comes amid a career freefall for Spears, whose new album is due to be released November 13.
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After her September 9 "comeback" performance on the MTV Video Music Awards, critics derided her singing and dancing as lackluster and said she appeared overweight in her sequined two-piece costume. Her former divorce lawyer, Laura Wasser, resigned last month as her legal representative after telling reporters the singer "just wants to be a mom."

Spears' management company, the Firm, recently quit after representing the singer for little over a month.

Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/01/spears.federline/index.html

adee-gee
10-01-2007, 10:56 PM
Really sad, she needs to get her life back on track now. I have a feeling it could go the opposite way though and things will get worse.

scarecrows
10-01-2007, 11:12 PM
looks like they didnt leave her alone even after this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

Black Adam
10-01-2007, 11:15 PM
Spears needs to sort herself out. For the moment that's the better decision though Federline isn't that great of a role model any kid should have.

AgassiDomination
10-01-2007, 11:17 PM
I didn't know Bilbo and Celia were one in the same.

Pfloyd
10-02-2007, 12:15 AM
Haha! Charade you are

Allure
10-02-2007, 12:20 AM
Another bad thing in her life. She's really going downhill.

FerrersLinda
10-02-2007, 12:34 AM
I almost feel sorry for her. Almost.

mangoes
10-02-2007, 12:41 AM
I feel bad for her. Obviously, things are out of control in her life and this constant media light on her isn't helping things.

World Beater
10-02-2007, 04:39 AM
i have no sympathy for her.

She had everything and threw it all away.

Sofyaxo
10-02-2007, 05:32 AM
I feel bad for her. Obviously, things are out of control in her life and this constant media light on her isn't helping things.

Agree.

I think the media may have had a lot more influence than it should have in this case too.

partygirl
10-02-2007, 05:47 AM
i have no sympathy for her.

She had everything and threw it all away.She's no different than anyone else.

You have never got yourself into a really bad situation, made some bad decisions?
(if you have was the world watching & laughing & pointing and having no sympathy?)

if not...lucky you
a lifetime is a loooong time though.;)


EDIT: i will say i hope she is taking some personal responsibility.
And remember therapy is fun! (i really believe that, i've done enough of it)

ginnylegend
10-02-2007, 09:01 AM
She was a sexy nymph of sheer purity in her school uniform when she first broke on the scene, and she has thrown that all away with smoking, drugs and booze. No sympathy from the ginny camp. Federline isn't exactly a brilliant role model, but he apparently does alright with his first child before he met her.

Alx
10-02-2007, 09:08 AM
I don't know if that's really better for the children to live with Kevin Federline :unsure:

guille&tati4life
10-02-2007, 11:23 AM
i have no sympathy for her.

She had everything and threw it all away.

She was a sexy nymph of sheer purity in her school uniform when she first broke on the scene, and she has thrown that all away with smoking, drugs and booze. No sympathy from the ginny camp.

Well, I think everyone should sympathise.
A life damaged by the media and drug problems, why would people not sympathise with that?

We do not need to know about this girl's personal life, hell we have no right to. The media coverage is unnacceptable and should not be allowed. I fully understand arguments for a free press and for the most part there should be, but when they target individuals, with stories which only make things worse for the person involved, giving out private information that the general public do not need to know all in an attempt to make money, I find it morally reprehensible. What right do people have to judge this girl? None. Yet people who have had no contact with her in any way continuously do judge her because the media encourages them to.

Bilbo
10-02-2007, 11:54 AM
she could commit suicide one day i fear. it's getting worse and worse each day. she brought her children yesterday to federline, two days earlier as she could have done. she was seeing in a car laughing and totally relaxed as you could think she's happy about losing her children :retard:

G4.
10-02-2007, 03:31 PM
wish betfair would put up odds on who will commit suicide first Spears Lohan or Winehouse

rocketassist
10-02-2007, 03:39 PM
She deserves everything she gets.

guille&tati4life
10-02-2007, 03:44 PM
she could commit suicide one day i fear. it's getting worse and worse each day. she brought her children yesterday to federline, two days earlier as she could have done. she was seeing in a car laughing and totally relaxed as you could think she's happy about losing her children :retard:

wish betfair would put up odds on who will commit suicide first Spears Lohan or Winehouse

There will probably be a suicide by a celebrity who the media focusses on and portrays in a bad light. Not that it'll stop them of course.

She deserves everything she gets.

Does she? How is it you know this? What is it that she's done that's so evil that she deserves whatever she gets?

rocketassist
10-02-2007, 03:49 PM
Does she? How is it you know this? What is it that she's done that's so evil that she deserves whatever she gets?

Gone from a beautiful lady loved by all and a great role model for young children to a drug taker and heavy drinker and dreadful role model. It was HER choice to do these things and they have rightly cost her the kids. Not that Fed II is a great role model because he isn't. Reading about her smiling in the car makes me sick because she should be gutted about losing her kids, her pride and joy.

If I had a child and was on drugs (rhetorical cause I never will be on drugs) then I'd immediately get off them and crawl over a bed of nails to provide for my child. She hasn't and that's a massive let down for her two young'uns.

guille&tati4life
10-02-2007, 04:01 PM
Gone from a beautiful lady loved by all and a great role model for young children to a drug taker and heavy drinker and dreadful role model. It was HER choice to do these things and they have rightly cost her the kids. Not that Fed II is a great role model because he isn't. Reading about her smiling in the car makes me sick because she should be gutted about losing her kids, her pride and joy.

If I had a child and was on drugs (rhetorical cause I never will be on drugs) then I'd immediately get off them and crawl over a bed of nails to provide for my child. She hasn't and that's a massive let down for her two young'uns.

This is just stupid. So many rock stars take drugs or drink, do they all deserve whatever they get? In fact, the world is full of people who do this, a huge percentage take some form of drugs if we include alcohol, do they deserve what they get?
As for this nonsense about her smiling in the car, well for fuck's sake, what is that supposed to show? Cos she smiled that meant she was happy to be losing her children? Days when i'm sad i can still smile, what the hell is that supposed to show? It shows nothing. She could be extremely unhappy and still smile, people do it regularly.

How do you know what you'd do? You can only make an educated guess.
Maybe she is trying, you don't know that either but much like so many others you judge her just like the media want you to.

G4.
10-02-2007, 04:10 PM
one should take responsability for his actions. She does drugs, drinks and has children. She had it coming ,i won't feel sorry for her

rocketassist
10-02-2007, 04:40 PM
This is just stupid. So many rock stars take drugs or drink, do they all deserve whatever they get? In fact, the world is full of people who do this, a huge percentage take some form of drugs if we include alcohol, do they deserve what they get?
As for this nonsense about her smiling in the car, well for fuck's sake, what is that supposed to show? Cos she smiled that meant she was happy to be losing her children? Days when i'm sad i can still smile, what the hell is that supposed to show? It shows nothing. She could be extremely unhappy and still smile, people do it regularly.

How do you know what you'd do? You can only make an educated guess.
Maybe she is trying, you don't know that either but much like so many others you judge her just like the media want you to.

You sound like a Britney fanboy distressed by her tarnished image.

Some rock stars take drugs yes but they don't have kids. She does and she put the booze and the drugs BEFORE her children and that is the worst thing you can do as a mother.

Carlita
10-02-2007, 05:20 PM
It's really sad....don't know if Kevin is such a great option, but atm I think the kids can't be worse of than they are with Britney!

The media attention she got was absurd at times.....of course she's been after attention since she was a little girl...so they might have prepared her for the worst :tape: Still, I think it's sad and I hope she sorts herself out although I also fear things might go from bad to worse :sad:

Carlita
10-02-2007, 05:22 PM
Some rock stars take drugs yes but they don't have kids. She does and she put the booze and the drugs BEFORE her children and that is the worst thing you can do as a mother.I agree with you here......she has kids and they depend on her....which is not easy when your mum is drinking and doing drugs most of the time...

Lee
10-02-2007, 05:37 PM
The biggest losers are the 2 little kids. Keeping my fingers crossed that they are still too young to be too traumatized. They are the only people I will have sympathy on.

Spears was told by Judge to clean up her act or losing her children. What's her response? Same old same old drinking, drug, clubbing, etc etc etc. Please don't blame the media. She has the choice of not go clubbing in the hot spots. She has the choice of not shopping in expensive boutiques in her convertible sports car.

Angelina and Brad are hounded by medias days and nights too but they tried to reduce their children's exposure and protecting them. There are many other stars in Hollywood, they are not as hounded by media as Lohan, Paris or Spears, not because they are not as famous but they avoided exposing themselves like these women did.

alfonsojose
10-02-2007, 08:51 PM
:tape:

Mimi
10-03-2007, 04:38 AM
:yeah: :bowdown:

i always said you cannot always shift the responsbility to others when you do wrong things, we all should be responsible for our own behaviour ;)

The biggest losers are the 2 little kids. Keeping my fingers crossed that they are still too young to be too traumatized. They are the only people I will have sympathy on.

Spears was told by Judge to clean up her act or losing her children. What's her response? Same old same old drinking, drug, clubbing, etc etc etc. Please don't blame the media. She has the choice of not go clubbing in the hot spots. She has the choice of not shopping in expensive boutiques in her convertible sports car.

Angelina and Brad are hounded by medias days and nights too but they tried to reduce their children's exposure and protecting them. There are many other stars in Hollywood, they are not as hounded by media as Lohan, Paris or Spears, not because they are not as famous but they avoided exposing themselves like these women did.

guille&tati4life
10-03-2007, 10:00 AM
You sound like a Britney fanboy distressed by her tarnished image.

Some rock stars take drugs yes but they don't have kids. She does and she put the booze and the drugs BEFORE her children and that is the worst thing you can do as a mother.

I hold her music in low regard. As a person I know little about her, i'm just sympathetic to someone with drug problems who is constantly in the media spotlight.

Sure, Ozzy Osbourne, he'd never have kids and do drugs. If you looked, i'm sure you'd find a long long list of celebrities who do drugs and have children.

It's really not the worst thing you can do ;)


The biggest losers are the 2 little kids. Keeping my fingers crossed that they are still too young to be too traumatized. They are the only people I will have sympathy on.

Spears was told by Judge to clean up her act or losing her children. What's her response? Same old same old drinking, drug, clubbing, etc etc etc. Please don't blame the media. She has the choice of not go clubbing in the hot spots. She has the choice of not shopping in expensive boutiques in her convertible sports car.

Angelina and Brad are hounded by medias days and nights too but they tried to reduce their children's exposure and protecting them. There are many other stars in Hollywood, they are not as hounded by media as Lohan, Paris or Spears, not because they are not as famous but they avoided exposing themselves like these women did.

Where to start....
There is nothing wrong with going clubbing anywhere.
There is nothing wrong with shopping in expensive boutiques in her convertible sports car.
Having a problem with drugs (when i say drugs i always include alcohol) is not something to be criticised over but rather something to be sympathised with. The girl needs help, the last thing she needs is the media spouting their irrelevant crap all over the place.
You mistake statements like these for me "blaming the media" for her drug problems. That's not what i'm doing at all.
I'm saying we have a 25 year old woman who is on drugs and who's life is getting worse. The media not only seem to enjoy the girl's misery but make money out of it daily. The people who read and listen to the media as usual go along with them and have decided she's a horrible person. This use of the media is morally reprehensible and people who judge her based on their information are wrong to.

In fact, there are many people who are treated horribly within the press. I'd like to know why it goes in our newspapers that Jude Law once had an affair or that Britney Spears looked fatter from one day to the next. It's a joke. It's not our business, these are private matters.

adee-gee
10-03-2007, 12:21 PM
I agree with Paul.

Very few people that get hooked on drugs and alcohol do so out of choice. It's a form of escapism from the real world, as you go into your own little bubble.

Obviously things have got so bad for Britney that it's got to the stage where her next fix is more important than the well being of herself or her children. Having had a friend who had bad drugs problems, I sympathise a lot with her issues. I think it's very sad, but until she accepts she needs help nothing will change and things will continue to get worse.

cmurray
10-03-2007, 01:12 PM
I *do* feel bad for her, I suppose. Her life has fallen apart and she seems incapable, unwilling or uncaring enough to piece it back together. Its unfortunate all the way around. I hate to see somebody self-destruct like this. But here's the thing...she IS responsible for her actions and my sympathies, such as they are, only extend so far. Is her life difficult? Of course it is, but how long are we going to excuse bad behavior and horrible decisions on life difficulties?


Certainly, the public bears some responsibility for what has happened to Britney and Lindsay Lohan. We make these young girls rich and famous before they're ready for it, we make them think they are entitled to the world. And when they realize that they CAN'T have everything and start to crash and burn, we sit back with our popcorn and say "tsk tsk..."

Frankly, I think both the excuses AND the ridicule are equally as harmful. Taking some personal responsibility is the ONLY way she's going to get "fixed". I hope she does. I really, really do.

FerrersLinda
10-03-2007, 01:15 PM
I agree with Paul.

Very few people that get hooked on drugs and alcohol do so out of choice. It's a form of escapism from the real world, as you go into your own little bubble.

Obviously things have got so bad for Britney that it's got to the stage where her next fix is more important than the well being of herself or her children. Having had a friend who had bad drugs problems, I sympathise a lot with her issues. I think it's very sad, but until she accepts she needs help nothing will change and things will continue to get worse.

Okay, maybe Adam. But the constant media scrutiny, that I find completely horrible, has partly been called on by herself. She was the one who sold her private life in a show called Chaos. And like Lee said, there are many celebrities that get hunted by the media but somehow manage to keep the cameras away, as much as possible from their kids. Also when you go shopping, wear underpants. That might help.:rolleyes:

Yes having an addiction is sad and something that will cause you to act irrational. But she is still an individual responsible for her own actions that now affect her kids. Having said that I think the real damage has been done by Britneys parents who should have protected their child from "stardom" years ago.

Lee
10-03-2007, 02:50 PM
Where to start....
There is nothing wrong with going clubbing anywhere.
There is nothing wrong with shopping in expensive boutiques in her convertible sports car.
Having a problem with drugs (when i say drugs i always include alcohol) is not something to be criticised over but rather something to be sympathised with. The girl needs help, the last thing she needs is the media spouting their irrelevant crap all over the place.
You mistake statements like these for me "blaming the media" for her drug problems. That's not what i'm doing at all.
I'm saying we have a 25 year old woman who is on drugs and who's life is getting worse. The media not only seem to enjoy the girl's misery but make money out of it daily. The people who read and listen to the media as usual go along with them and have decided she's a horrible person. This use of the media is morally reprehensible and people who judge her based on their information are wrong to.

In fact, there are many people who are treated horribly within the press. I'd like to know why it goes in our newspapers that Jude Law once had an affair or that Britney Spears looked fatter from one day to the next. It's a joke. It's not our business, these are private matters.


She is killing herself with drugs because she's surrounded by sympathisers like you. "I'm sorry you are such a mess, it's not your fault. It's the drug. I am sooo sorry."

If from the beginning, there are people around her tell to pull herself together, get help, etc. she may be not be in a mess like this.

And please don't blame her early fame and fortune. Simple example, Justin Timberlake and Christina Aguilera are not as mess up like her. It's really what's the path you choose for yourself.

Lee
10-03-2007, 02:53 PM
I agree with Paul.

Very few people that get hooked on drugs and alcohol do so out of choice. It's a form of escapism from the real world, as you go into your own little bubble.

Obviously things have got so bad for Britney that it's got to the stage where her next fix is more important than the well being of herself or her children. Having had a friend who had bad drugs problems, I sympathise a lot with her issues. I think it's very sad, but until she accepts she needs help nothing will change and things will continue to get worse.

They chose to escape instead of facing the problems. I know people who are alcoholic, but giving them sympathy will never help them.

AnitaOlea
10-03-2007, 04:29 PM
LEAVE BRITNEY ALOOOOONEEEEEE :sobbing: :crazy:

adee-gee
10-03-2007, 04:49 PM
They chose to escape instead of facing the problems. I know people who are alcoholic, but giving them sympathy will never help them.

Neither will slagging them off continously.

FerrersLinda
10-03-2007, 05:51 PM
Neither will slagging them off continously.

Agreed. But I do feel somebody needs to grab her shoulders and shake her heavily.:mad:

adee-gee
10-03-2007, 06:11 PM
Agreed. But I do feel somebody needs to grab her shoulders and shake her heavily.:mad:
Her mother is about to do the exact same thing with her other daughter and throw her into the media circus far too early :retard:

FerrersLinda
10-03-2007, 07:37 PM
Her mother is about to do the exact same thing with her other daughter and throw her into the media circus far too early :retard:

:eek: What the hell is wrong with these people.:rolleyes:

R.Federer
10-03-2007, 09:14 PM
Expected loss

(sorry, couldn't resist that Bilbo)

the cat
10-03-2007, 09:41 PM
I feel sorry for Britney. But it's probably for the best that Spears lost custody of her 2 sons to Federline. But Federline seems to be a bum of sorts and Britney losing custody to him makes her look pathetic. :(

And Britney shouldn't blame anyone but herself for her problems.

dimahenman
10-04-2007, 01:12 AM
they should let brangelina adopt them!!

guille&tati4life
10-04-2007, 01:18 AM
She is killing herself with drugs because she's surrounded by sympathisers like you. "I'm sorry you are such a mess, it's not your fault. It's the drug. I am sooo sorry."

If from the beginning, there are people around her tell to pull herself together, get help, etc. she may be not be in a mess like this.

And please don't blame her early fame and fortune. Simple example, Justin Timberlake and Christina Aguilera are not as mess up like her. It's really what's the path you choose for yourself.

eh?

I see... you, the person who was whining about personal responsibility have now decided that it isn't Britney's fault, but rather "people like me" who sympathise with her.

You seem to think that me telling people to stop criticising her is in someway the same as encouraging her to take drugs. The issue we were discussing was not what is the best way for her to get off drugs, we were discussing how she should be treated by people in the general public.

How do you know what people around her tell her behind closed doors? You don't know what people say to her. It makes just as much sense for me to argue that if only people close to her had been sympathetic instead of harsh like you then none of this would have happened.

She made bad choices. She's ridiculed for them. I don't see how that is a good thing and i certainly don't see why people can't feel sorry for her..

Joyce_23
10-04-2007, 09:10 AM
Aren't we missing what's really important here? It's not Britney! I don't care about that woman or the choices she makes...I care about those young children who didn't ask to be put into this situation. Thankfully a judge woke up and took them away from a woman who is clearly unstable right now.
And yes, the media is harsh on anyone in the public eye but most celebrities manage to behave pretty well. There is no one to blame for Britney's downfall but Britney. If you don't go out looking for trouble every single night then you won't find it. I for one hope these childeren get the stability they need now...As for Britney, I couldn't care less.

Lee
10-04-2007, 03:14 PM
Aren't we missing what's really important here? It's not Britney! I don't care about that woman or the choices she makes...I care about those young children who didn't ask to be put into this situation. Thankfully a judge woke up and took them away from a woman who is clearly unstable right now.
And yes, the media is harsh on anyone in the public eye but most celebrities manage to behave pretty well. There is no one to blame for Britney's downfall but Britney. If you don't go out looking for trouble every single night then you won't find it. I for one hope these childeren get the stability they need now...As for Britney, I couldn't care less.

Thanks Joyce for pointing out again, the children are the major victims here.

Turquoise
10-05-2007, 06:09 AM
Aren't we missing what's really important here? It's not Britney! I don't care about that woman or the choices she makes...I care about those young children who didn't ask to be put into this situation. Thankfully a judge woke up and took them away from a woman who is clearly unstable right now.
And yes, the media is harsh on anyone in the public eye but most celebrities manage to behave pretty well. There is no one to blame for Britney's downfall but Britney. If you don't go out looking for trouble every single night then you won't find it. I for one hope these childeren get the stability they need now...As for Britney, I couldn't care less.


Well said! We must always put the well-being and safety of the children first. Britney is not fit to take care of herself, let alone her innocent children. Parenthood is a serious responsibility, and children are not toys.

the cat
10-05-2007, 05:16 PM
After Spears lost custody of her 2 sons PETA now wants Britney to lose custody of her dog. :eek:

R.Federer
10-05-2007, 05:59 PM
So long as she is being treated in the justice system just as any one else with a (supposed) drug problem and (definite) behavioral problems would be, I don't see the problem.

My problem really lies with whether Fed (not Roger...., but K Fed) is really a much better parent that he should get custody. Maybe Spears' own parents are a better fit but I can imagine that it would require a lot of burden of proof to show that Fed would be a bad parent as well.