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Henman vs Chela, Who will win?

Deejay
05-30-2004, 04:23 PM
I cant see Chela beating him with Henman on this type of form, but you never know with tim! I say tim in 4 sets...

jazz_girl
05-30-2004, 04:25 PM
I think Chela will win in four, maybe 3...

Carito_90
05-30-2004, 04:30 PM
Yah i agree with jazzy. Take on count that Chela's a claycourt specialist and the farmer.. um sorry :P , Henman isn't.

PinkFeatherBoa
05-30-2004, 04:36 PM
I think Chela in 4 sets but hope to be proven wrong.

TheBoiledEgg
05-30-2004, 04:53 PM
i bet this game is on at same time as Coria vs Moya/Robredo :fiery:
cos this yr they plan to put womens QF on Chatrier as well

so thats just :smash:
we just see ONE QF :mad:

Horatio Caine
05-30-2004, 05:23 PM
If Henman plays Wednesday then i think he will win because he will be sufficiently recovered. If it is Tuesday then i fear that he will be too flat to unduly trouble Chela. Either way, he has to win at least one of the first two sets if he is progress. He won't come back from 2 sets to love down again, after doing it today.

Corey Feldman
05-30-2004, 05:49 PM
i need to pinch myself to think of henman with a "winnable" chance to make the sf of roland garros :)

jez? do you think bbc might show the match?? (with chela)

i can remember them showing SF's of the french some years age

Corey Feldman
05-30-2004, 05:49 PM
some years "ago" :)

Horatio Caine
05-30-2004, 05:52 PM
I bloody hope so - he has lived up to the hype, broken a 30-year record and has played tremendously well in the four matches, twice to come back from seemingly impossible situations. In that case, he is almost invincible and has a real chance in beating chela, a win that will only come about if he recovers sufficiently, which is unlkely i'm afraid. However, given his outstanding fighting qualities, he now cannot be shunned and the BBC should show that match with the belief that he could win, which he can.

The BBC wouldn't want to miss what could be a historic moment would they? First British semi-finalist since...? Anyone know?

BaselineSmash
05-30-2004, 08:17 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Fred Perry in the 1930s. :haha:

Horatio Caine
05-30-2004, 08:18 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Fred Perry in the 1930s. :haha:

:haha: Quite likely!

TheGrandstand
05-30-2004, 08:19 PM
I'm going with Henman here. I really think he'll confuse Chela. I think we are in pressure time now and even though Henman hasn't lived up to the pressure on most occasions he does have more experience than Chela.

Henman in 4 sets.

Horatio Caine
05-30-2004, 08:23 PM
I'm going with Henman here. I really think he'll confuse Chela. I think we are in pressure time now and even though Henman hasn't lived up to the pressure on most occasions he does have more experience than Chela.

Henman in 4 sets.

Henman won't have any pressure on himself now, especially after the magnitude of that match against Llodra. Hardly anyone expects him to beat Chela now and even he thinks that it is probably too tall an order now. However, as you say, he has got the game to confuse Chela and he has pounded him this year already, though admittedly not on clay. If Henman isn't too tired then he will triumph. However, i expect he will charge the net at every opportunity and this may work against him if Chela gets into a rhythm of passing him. I just hope Tim takes one of the first two sets, so he has some sort of a chance of winning! :)

Deejay
05-30-2004, 08:36 PM
The fact that Tim has nothing to lose and he has gone further in this tournament than he has ever gone before(no one expected him to), the pressure lies solely on Chela, who quite frankly has no where near the same big-match experience as Henman does, which will obviously work against the argentinian. If Tim charges the net and doesnt stay back he will win in either straight or 4 sets...

TheGrandstand
05-30-2004, 08:40 PM
I think Henman has somewhat a form of pressure on himself. He's one of the top players in the world consistently and hasn't won a major so to start to be close again might make him a little tight. Regardless, he will get by Chela.

Vass
05-30-2004, 08:42 PM
It will either be Chela in 4, or Tim in 5.

sigmagirl91
05-30-2004, 08:43 PM
I will pick Chela to win. I think because Chela is more comfortable on clay, he will get by Henman. Chela in 4.

TheGrandstand
05-30-2004, 08:43 PM
It will either be Chela in 4, or Tim in 5.

I can't see Henman winning another 5 set match, to be honest.

Peoples
05-30-2004, 10:09 PM
Chela is the very likely winner but hopefully not too easily. Let's admit it, Henman has overachieved quite a bit, normally he's much weaker on clay while Chela likes it. If Henman has no pressure, Chela won't have either because he hasn't achieved a lot anyway.

willie
05-30-2004, 10:20 PM
CHELA IN 5 SETS

Deboogle!.
05-30-2004, 10:25 PM
depends on how tired Tim is and how well he recovers

Conan the Librarian
05-30-2004, 10:42 PM
Yah i agree with jazzy. Take on count that Chela's a claycourt specialist and the farmer.. um sorry :P , Henman isn't.

Conan has seen Henman referred to numerous times here as "farmer". Why?

Conan the Librarian
05-30-2004, 10:43 PM
The BBC wouldn't want to miss what could be a historic moment would they? First British semi-finalist since...? Anyone know?

Mike Sangster in 63 or somewhere around there.

Conan the Librarian
05-30-2004, 10:44 PM
Conan thinks Chela will win this one.

Action Jackson
05-31-2004, 03:50 AM
Chela, it's about time Henman actually played a player who is at their best on clay and we can find out for sure how he really is playing.

They played twice on clay it's 1 match each and I think Chela will win 4. If Chela serves well, then that will really help him keep Henman off balance. If Henman wins all credit to him and it has only taken to the QFs, before he has met someone who is at their best on clay.

PerezRoldan
05-31-2004, 08:22 AM
Should be a good battle, but I think Chela will triumph over Timmy.

Conan the Librarian
05-31-2004, 08:25 AM
Chela, it's about time Henman actually played a player who is at their best on clay and we can find out for sure how he really is playing.

They played twice on clay it's 1 match each and I think Chela will win 4. If Chela serves well, then that will really help him keep Henman off balance. If Henman wins all credit to him and it has only taken to the QFs, before he has met someone who is at their best on clay.

Isn't Blanco at his best on clay?

Conan agrees with your general point though, that Chela is a class above anything Henman has played so far.

Domino
05-31-2004, 08:31 AM
And Chela wont give Henman the free points he looks for. Chela wont go away, and Tim wont be able to cope with that for long. I say Chela in 4 after Henman takes the first set.

PerezRoldan
05-31-2004, 08:31 AM
Isn't Blanco at his best on clay?

Conan agrees with your general point though, that Chela is a class above anything Henman has played so far.

Yes, agreed Blanco somehow beat Horna and Chela is about 3 classes above Blanco on his best day.

harvey
05-31-2004, 04:20 PM
i'm scared...i have this sinking feeling that henman will win tomorrow
Especially if chela's doubles match lasts long tonight.
Henman is a completely different player mentally now. And he has the skill to put away anybody.

Vechelaux
05-31-2004, 04:33 PM
I reckon that Tim should get by tomorrow. Chela is good on clay but Tim is playing his non-clay game very well on it. Good luck to him. :)

Aleksa's Laydee
05-31-2004, 04:35 PM
GOOOOOO CHELA you can do it :D:D:D:D

BaselineSmash
05-31-2004, 04:42 PM
Hallelujah, Chatrier!

And I'm not talking the Leonard Cohen school of "cold and miserable, broken Hallelujah"s. Being scheduled to play on centre court could prove to be Henman's ticket to the semi-finals. God knows why Moya and Coria have been sidelined on Lenglen, but that's a matter of controversy that can be debated elsewhere.

Court Suzanne "Slow As A Bitch" Lenglen has seemed to enjoy exposing Tim's consistent lack of punch on his groundies and serve. It is markedly slower than Chatrier, and has obviously blighted the Brit's preferred brand of winners-tennis thus far. The fact that he's had to recover from a two set deficit in both his matches on it is evidence enough. But now he has a chance to unleash the heavy artillery on a court that courts quicker points. If he'd had to face the dogged Chela on a slower playing ground, I'm afraid it would have been lights out. And that's really saying something given that Juan is the weakest of the three compatriots who've joined him in the quarters.

He remains the favourite, but Tim now has the opportunity to play like so... :armed:

Maintaining it for five sets is the task.

athie
05-31-2004, 05:36 PM
Wouldn't like to say who's gonna win this one.

Tim's the BBC darling atm and the papers are starting to think that..... well tennis mebbe aint so bad after all.
Shame the press dont make more of an effort even when Tim plays poor.

gravity
05-31-2004, 05:53 PM
Henman CANNOT beat Argentines on the big stage. I have several friends from Buenos Aires and we always laugh at Henman's inability to beat anyone from their country when it matters. Sport is where they avenge the injustice that is the disputed malvinas. Henman to lose in straight sets tomorrow. :lol:

Champion number 1
05-31-2004, 06:01 PM
Henman has no pressure on him really, no one expected him to win this.

The one thing I hate though is the british public, last week round 1 and 2 he got a tiny section in the paper about his wins... now he is in the quarters the Mirror (english newspaper) devotes a whole double page to him.

I really like Henman though but I say Chela to win in 4 or 5 sets. Great chance for Chela here to make a good name for himself as he is a talented player.

TennisLurker
05-31-2004, 07:28 PM
Henman CANNOT beat Argentines on the big stage. I have several friends from Buenos Aires and we always laugh at Henman's inability to beat anyone from their country when it matters. Sport is where they avenge the injustice that is the disputed malvinas. Henman to lose in straight sets tomorrow. :lol:

he defeated nalbandian last year in wimbledon, dont you remember? :rolleyes:


And please, tennis is an international individual sport, lets try to not mix politics and tennis.
I like football a lot too, but all the nationalism really turns me off from watching it.

TheBoiledEgg
05-31-2004, 07:34 PM
according to all the Brit Press/Media
all Tim has to do is turn up and he's won :o

any chance of rain tomorrow ???
hope for some Drizzle :devil:

Vamos Juan Ignacio :D :) just dont Choke :fiery: against another Master Choker.

BaselineSmash
05-31-2004, 07:49 PM
according to all the Brit Press/Media
all Tim has to do is turn up and he's won :o

any chance of rain tomorrow ???
hope for some Drizzle :devil:

Vamos Juan Ignacio :D :) just dont Choke :fiery: against another Master Choker.

TBE, you crack me up most of the time with your nutty posts, but I disagree with you about the British media:-

"Henman prepared for Chela

BBC COVERAGE

Tim Henman will seek to set a career best by reaching the French Open semi-finals for the first time on Tuesday.
The Briton faces Juan Ignacio Chela in the third match on Centre Court but he will be the underdog against the Argentine claycourt expert."

That's a quote from the UK's leading news source.

gillian
05-31-2004, 08:09 PM
Like Henman, but have to go with Chela in four (close) sets. This is clay, after all.

a_box_of_ariel
05-31-2004, 09:33 PM
My money is on Tim. He is slowly getting better on Clay. C'mon Tim ! :worship:

Horatio Caine
05-31-2004, 09:35 PM
Henman CANNOT beat Argentines on the big stage. I have several friends from Buenos Aires and we always laugh at Henman's inability to beat anyone from their country when it matters. Sport is where they avenge the injustice that is the disputed malvinas. Henman to lose in straight sets tomorrow. :lol:

Isn't the Monte Carlo Masters a big stage? Admittedly not as big as a Slam but still big. Chela was beaten by Henman then.

SaFed2005
05-31-2004, 09:48 PM
Their H2H record is tied 2-2.

Henman has beaten Chela before on clay and Chela has beaten Henman on hard.

I really think that Henman will make it to the semis for the first time ever. I think he will take this one in either 4 or 5 sets depending on how tired he is from his last few matches. His form seems to be good at the moment.

tomcat
05-31-2004, 09:50 PM
I would so like to see Henman beat Chela but I fear Chela will get through though this one and Henmans run will come to a halt, Tim can maybe take a set if he plays the way he has in the last matches.

Carito_90
05-31-2004, 09:55 PM
Conan has seen Henman referred to numerous times here as "farmer". Why?

Hen - Man :)

Henman CANNOT beat Argentines on the big stage. I have several friends from Buenos Aires and we always laugh at Henman's inability to beat anyone from their country when it matters. Sport is where they avenge the injustice that is the disputed malvinas. Henman to lose in straight sets tomorrow.

:worship:

Isn't the Monte Carlo Masters a big stage? Admittedly not as big as a Slam but still big. Chela was beaten by Henman then.

She's refering to Grand Slams :)

Guille's Girl
05-31-2004, 11:21 PM
I want Chela to win but reading his interview from yesterday I'll give Tim the edge. JI said he "couldn't relax" and thats a bitch. I'll say Timmy in 4.

Corey Feldman
06-01-2004, 09:11 AM
Henman CANNOT beat Argentines on the big stage. I have several friends from Buenos Aires and we always laugh at Henman's inability to beat anyone from their country when it matters. Sport is where they avenge the injustice that is the disputed malvinas. Henman to lose in straight sets tomorrow. :lol:

pathetic sad and bitter argentines, you lost that war accept it, dont bring sport into it

henman has hammered gaudio and zabaleta plenty of times in the past, as well as ending nalby in wimbledon, so you and your argentine mates can laugh all you want.........not like any of your players will win wimbledon :D:D:D:D

BaselineSmash
06-01-2004, 09:24 AM
pathetic sad and bitter argentines, you lost that war accept it, dont bring sport into it

henman has hammered gaudio and zabaleta plenty of times in the past, as well as ending nalby in wimbledon, so you and your argentine mates can laugh all you want.........not like any of your players will win wimbledon :D:D:D:D

Let's hope these words don't come back to haunt you e.g. The Boiled Egg's prediction that Youzhny's first title would be one of many.

Supersonik
06-01-2004, 09:41 AM
Escude, if Chela beats Henman will you except defeat properly and not make excuses?

Politics should never come into sport, and as for no Argentines winning Wimbledon well one has got closer than any English player in recent history.

joeb_uk
06-01-2004, 10:11 AM
i actually think tim will win, and i want him to win! but i would like to see 3/4 argentines in the semis, but add tim in there and i will be happy.

Corey Feldman
06-01-2004, 12:11 PM
Escude, if Chela beats Henman will you except defeat properly and not make excuses?

Politics should never come into sport, and as for no Argentines winning Wimbledon well one has got closer than any English player in recent history.

if chela wins thats fine, i like juan ignacio, i do not like stupid argentine fans who think argentine will beat england in every sport because theyre "owed" it by god, after the falklinds war :)

and oh yes, nalbi got very close, he only got how many games of hewitt in the final? 5? 6??

Corey Feldman
06-01-2004, 12:13 PM
Let's hope these words don't come back to haunt you e.g. The Boiled Egg's prediction that Youzhny's first title would be one of many.

loll, yeah the boiled brainfart that he is :)