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YEC vs Olympic Gold.

lleytonfan!
09-30-2007, 04:56 AM
Which one do yuo consider to be more important, and why? Oops, accidentally wrote TEC in poll. Can a mod please change it?

GlennMirnyi
09-30-2007, 05:07 AM
Olympic tennis is a farce. It means nothing to the tennis world.

CyBorg
09-30-2007, 05:14 AM
Historically the Olympics haven't been amassing much prestige.

This could change. A lot of guys are revving up to play there next year. It could be very much like a fifth major. But it has not been anything like a major in past years. Not even close.

CmonAussie
09-30-2007, 05:16 AM
Which one do yuo consider to be more important, and why? Oops, accidentally wrote TEC in poll. Can a mod please change it?


lleytonfan:wavey:
i`d like to support you but your recent bout of needless threads aren`t helping Rocky Llegs cause:eek:

Allure
09-30-2007, 06:01 AM
TMC. Olympics are okay but IMO it isn't a very ''olympic'' sport.

leng jai
09-30-2007, 06:22 AM
Depends on the person. It could mean a lot to someone to win a gold medal for their country, regardless of the sport.

CooCooCachoo
09-30-2007, 10:02 AM
In tennis, the YEC is more important, but winning the Olympics is more resounding in general.

AnnaK_4ever
09-30-2007, 11:20 AM
ATP: TMC > Olympics
WTA: Olympics > YEC

TennisGrandSlam
09-30-2007, 12:52 PM
Tennis Masters Cup >> Olympic Game :devil:

gusman890
09-30-2007, 01:12 PM
Federer wants to win Olympics. and so do a bunch of others too.

Its like davis cup, yet its not a team verison.

Guys still love their home countries.

Adler
09-30-2007, 01:13 PM
Olympic gold, cause it makes you a hero in your country, no matter which sport it is. At least it looks like that in Poland

Bilbo
09-30-2007, 01:21 PM
Olympic Gold

Rogiman
09-30-2007, 02:09 PM
I'd love to think TMC is bigger, but realistically Olympic gold means more to most players, so it seems.

Burrow
09-30-2007, 02:20 PM
Olympics.

Leo
09-30-2007, 02:44 PM
Olympics

Caio_Brasil
09-30-2007, 02:45 PM
Olympic of course

CmonAussie
09-30-2007, 03:12 PM
Tennis Masters Cup >> Olympic Game :devil:

:wavey:
I think you`re wrong!

Gonzalez & Massu`s gold medals [from Athens] made them heroes in Chile:worship:
Alex Corretja`s TMC in 98 got him little attention in Spain:rolleyes:

Yappa
09-30-2007, 03:25 PM
TMC was just something created for the media, while the Olympic Games have a long standing tradition. Every athlete dreams of having an Olympic medal. And you only get the chance every 4 years.

AnnaK_4ever
09-30-2007, 03:48 PM
TMC was just something created for the media, while the Olympic Games have a long standing tradition. Every athlete dreams of having an Olympic medal. And you only get the chance every 4 years.

looooong tradition in tennis for sure :lol:
since 1988...

TennisGrandSlam
09-30-2007, 03:55 PM
:wavey:
I think you`re wrong!

Gonzalez & Massu`s gold medals [from Athens] made them heroes in Chile:worship:
Alex Corretja`s TMC in 98 got him little attention in Spain:rolleyes:

For tennis, in certain point of view, Olympic gold is not World NO.1 :devil:

But Tennis Masters Cup should be considered NO.1 (King of the Masters) :)

I suggest TMC should be the World Championship of Tennis, the TMC winner should be YEAR END NO. 1 rather than using ranking point system. :devil:

Hola Mr. SK
09-30-2007, 04:21 PM
It would be good to have both. Donno if anyone has achieved this. Fed has a good chance next year.
TMC is more important for a professional player,but the medal weighs more for his country.

TennisGrandSlam
09-30-2007, 04:30 PM
Just hope Roger win :

Australian Open, Dubai, AMS Indian Wells, Estroil, AMS Rome, Wimbledon, AMS Canada, Beijing Olympics, US Open, Tokyo, Basel, Tennis Master Cup

in 2008. :devil:

Hola Mr. SK
09-30-2007, 04:48 PM
Just hope Roger win :

Australian Open, Dubai, AMS Indian Wells, Estroil, AMS Rome, Wimbledon, AMS Canada, Beijing Olympics, US Open, Tokyo, Basel, Tennis Master Cup

in 2008. :devil:
still not perfect without the RG title:devil:

ReturnWinner
09-30-2007, 04:52 PM
is this a joke???? of course YEC is more important

thrust
09-30-2007, 05:27 PM
TennisGrandSlam- Surely you are joking when it come to disregarding the point system and base top player on one tournament? The YEC is very importnat but the point system is more so. As to the Olympics VS the YEC, it is as toss-up. The Olympics are only played every 4 years, so there is less chance to win one. It must be a great thrill to stand on the podium with your National Anthem playing, knowing you won for your Country. I would be equally happy with either-lol!!

JMG
09-30-2007, 06:30 PM
Olympic Gold by far.

*Viva Chile*
09-30-2007, 06:33 PM
If Federer wins the olympics next year, I'm sure all the Fedtards here will start to say that IS important :rolleyes: :yawn:

GlennMirnyi
09-30-2007, 06:40 PM
What a freaking bullshit. The way it seems all people posting here is a bunch of idiotic fanboys. Tennis isn't an olympic sport.

cobalt60
09-30-2007, 06:40 PM
They are as equally important for very different reasons. No poll is necessary in this contest.

GlennMirnyi
09-30-2007, 06:46 PM
No. Olympic tennis means nothing to the tennis world. ;)

Rik.
09-30-2007, 06:49 PM
Olympics

TennisGrandSlam
09-30-2007, 06:50 PM
TennisGrandSlam- Surely you are joking when it come to disregarding the point system and base top player on one tournament? The YEC is very importnat but the point system is more so. As to the Olympics VS the YEC, it is as toss-up. The Olympics are only played every 4 years, so there is less chance to win one. It must be a great thrill to stand on the podium with your National Anthem playing, knowing you won for your Country. I would be equally happy with either-lol!!

Olympics is sports title :devil:

Grand Slam and TMS are Tennis titles :) :cool:

Yappa
09-30-2007, 07:41 PM
looooong tradition in tennis for sure :lol:
since 1988...

Wel, I was talking about the Olympic Games in general, so it's not important since when Tennis is part of it.

nolop
09-30-2007, 08:00 PM
i think a lot more players would prefer to win the olympics over TMC :)

cc2monac
09-30-2007, 08:20 PM
olympics!!! there is more history in the olympics than in the YEC...and if you look at my av' you'll understand why I think that Olympics are more important than any other title! ;)

keqtqiadv
09-30-2007, 08:22 PM
:zzz:

GlennMirnyi
09-30-2007, 08:25 PM
Wel, I was talking about the Olympic Games in general, so it's not important since when Tennis is part of it.

Of course it is.

oz_boz
09-30-2007, 09:08 PM
TMC is more important for those who follow the sport closely, Olympics (by far) more important for casual and non fans. Of course that could change.

If I were a tennis pro, I'd prefer a TMC title atm.

LinkMage
09-30-2007, 10:10 PM
Tough question, I don't know which one is more important. I think they are very close. Only the 8 best players qualify for the TMC and winning it means you are the best of the best. On the other hand, the Olympics only take place every 4 years and you are playing for your country.

I can't decide.

FedFan_2007
09-30-2007, 10:15 PM
Olympic gold would mean nothing for Federer. He's already the Swiss hero.

FedFan_2007
09-30-2007, 10:17 PM
YEC is far more important. I can't wait for Federer to win his 4 YEC in 5 years.

kabuki
09-30-2007, 10:17 PM
If you ask the top players, Olympic Gold would win by a mile. I'm going to trust them on this.

Alonsofz
09-30-2007, 10:35 PM
Olympic gold would mean nothing for Federer. He's already the Swiss hero.
He hasn't won anything playing for Switzerland. :shrug:

God, Olympics by far! It's like a Grand Slam.

Grand Slam >> TMC
Olympics >> TMC

casabe
10-01-2007, 01:12 AM
:wavey:
I think you`re wrong!

Gonzalez & Massu`s gold medals [from Athens] made them heroes in Chile:worship:
Alex Corretja`s TMC in 98 got him little attention in Spain:rolleyes: David was a hero in argentina after TMC 05

ChinoRios4Ever
10-01-2007, 02:25 AM
Olympic Games makes you an inmortal if you wins...

GlennMirnyi
10-01-2007, 02:37 AM
Olympic Games makes you an inmortal if you wins...

:bs: alert!

Kolya
10-01-2007, 02:42 AM
Olympics because Federer hasn't won it.

GlennMirnyi
10-01-2007, 02:51 AM
What the f... has Federer to do with it, dammit? Federer isn't tennis.

TennisGrandSlam
10-01-2007, 04:19 AM
Most of the netfriends here think Pete Sampras is Tennis God!

I think you should ask Pete for the answer :devil:

FedFan_2007
10-01-2007, 04:19 AM
Federer = Tennis.

GlennMirnyi
10-01-2007, 04:25 AM
FedFan 2007 = idiot. :D

ReturnWinner
10-01-2007, 04:28 AM
lol YEC gives both more points and prize money than Olympic Tennis
u can say Olympic has more value by talking about patriotic value and thinks like that but the YEC is way more noted and important

TennisGrandSlam
10-01-2007, 04:44 AM
Olympics is quadrennial.

But please notice the non-clay title Thomas Musters won in 1995 :devil:


Mexico City, Estoril, Barcelona, Monte Carlo, Rome, Roland Garros, St Poelten, Stuttgart Outdoor, San Marino, Umag, Bucharest, Essen

Essen - actually was 8th Super-9 (Tennis Masters Series) held in 1995. Now it is called Madrid Masters (since 2002). In 1996-2001, it was hold in Stuggart (Stuggart Indoor / Stuggart Masters) and in Stockholm during 1990-1994.

So, the Super-9 called Essen was hold once! It is the least frequent tournament. :cool:

LeChuck
10-01-2007, 08:49 AM
In my opinion, Tennis Masters Cup > Olympics > Masters Series Events

leng jai
10-01-2007, 01:45 PM
What a freaking bullshit. The way it seems all people posting here is a bunch of idiotic fanboys. Tennis isn't an olympic sport.

Sometimes you need to look at things from a different perspective.

GlennMirnyi
10-01-2007, 04:39 PM
Sometimes you need to look at things from a different perspective.

There is no other perspective for this. Tennis isn't an olympic sport.

CmonAussie
10-01-2007, 04:49 PM
In my opinion, Tennis Masters Cup > Olympics > Masters Series Events

:wavey:
Major [AO,FO,W,USO]>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olympics ~~ TMC>>>>>> Masters Series>>> MM

GlennMirnyi
10-01-2007, 04:51 PM
Tennis tournaments > Olympic bullshit
:wavey:

scarecrows
10-01-2007, 05:46 PM
Olympic Games makes you an inmortal if you wins...

:haha:

imagine the prospect of Massu being one of the tennis immortals

bokehlicious
10-01-2007, 05:53 PM
Olympic gold would mean nothing for Federer. He's already the Swiss hero.

If Roger wins the Olympics it would just mean that he's done the job for most Swiss... Anything but the gold medal would be a disappointment...

bokehlicious
10-01-2007, 05:55 PM
He hasn't won anything playing for Switzerland. :shrug:

:lol:

Seeing [SUI] next to the #1's name is fairly enough for most Swiss... :o

Frederick16
10-01-2007, 05:56 PM
i def should want the olympic gold more! listening to du gamla du fria in a full packed crowd. seeing the swedsish flag rising with my parents sister and gf on the stands :)

GlennMirnyi
10-01-2007, 06:01 PM
Never thought Swedes were so silly.

Frederick16
10-01-2007, 06:10 PM
Never thought Swedes were so silly.

haha why? yec is only points and money...

a olympic champ is for ever

FedFan_2007
10-01-2007, 06:14 PM
:lol:

Seeing [SUI] next to the #1's name is fairly enough for most Swiss... :o

#1, slam records are far more important to a country then Davis Cup and Olympic medals.

GlennMirnyi
10-01-2007, 06:24 PM
haha why? yec is only points and money...

a olympic champ is for ever

"ONLY points and money"? No man, it's about prestige, about your standing in the tennis world. The YEC is only achievable by 8 players every year, and except for Nalbandian and Vilas, no clowns won it. Do you think Sampras would exchange any of his 5 YECs for a stupid medal that means nothing to the tennis world? If you want medals to mean something, time to hit the track and do athletics. Tennis = trophies.

Add to that: tennis isn't an olympic sport, so it means nothing in olympic context.

nolop
10-01-2007, 06:24 PM
i think "tec" is the most boring tournament eva :o

GlennMirnyi
10-01-2007, 06:27 PM
Woa!

WELL START FENA! :D

Kuhne
10-01-2007, 06:55 PM
wining olympic gold will allways mean something any other price money or trophey can't give you.

GlennMirnyi
10-01-2007, 07:04 PM
Maybe for silly sissy-girls like you.

Frederick16
10-01-2007, 09:02 PM
Maybe for silly sissy-girls like you.

or maybe brazilians dont winn many gold medals so its not very prestiqous in their country ;)

Boris Franz Ecker
10-01-2007, 09:08 PM
Historically the Olympics haven't been amassing much prestige.



Same with some Grand Slams

GlennMirnyi
10-01-2007, 09:09 PM
or maybe brazilians dont winn many gold medals so its not very prestiqous in their country ;)

They are important - in olympic sports.

Burrow
10-01-2007, 10:11 PM
i think "tec" is the most boring tournament eva :o

The last one I enjoyed was back in 2004.

Frederick16
10-01-2007, 10:32 PM
They are important - in olympic sports.

so massu doesnt have a gold one?

Jaap
10-01-2007, 10:40 PM
Olympics doesn't mean much for most players. How else can you explain an utter mug like Massu winning a gold medal on hardcourt and a double team who can't volley winning the doubles title?

nolop
10-01-2007, 11:17 PM
Olympics doesn't mean much for most players. How else can you explain an utter mug like Massu winning a gold medal on hardcourt and a double team who can't volley winning the doubles title?

meybe because they played with all their heart and soul to make history for chile like they always try to do in world cups and davis cup :D

t0x
10-01-2007, 11:29 PM
Depends...

If your from a country that doesn't win much at the Olympics, you'd be a national hero.

On the other hand, if your from a country that gets plenty of medals, the TMC is probably better - only greats win the TMC.

kabuki
10-02-2007, 12:02 AM
They are important - in olympic sports.

Well that's funny, considering that tennis was one of the nine original sports in the first modern olympics.

Anyway, as much as you want to sit in this thread like the troll under the bridge in Billy Goats Gruff and denigrate and harrass anyone who dares say that Olympic tennis is important, it's not going to change the fact that for the vast majority of tennis players, reporters, and fans, Olympic tennis is at least as important as the YEC.

ChinoRios4Ever
10-02-2007, 12:33 AM
meybe because they played with all their heart and soul to make history for chile like they always try to do in world cups and davis cup :D

very true my dear compatriot :yeah:

GlennMirnyi
10-02-2007, 04:03 AM
so massu doesnt have a gold one?

His medal is worth as much as Serra's Bucharest title. Maybe less.

Olympics doesn't mean much for most players. How else can you explain an utter mug like Massu winning a gold medal on hardcourt and a double team who can't volley winning the doubles title?

Exactly.

meybe because they played with all their heart and soul to make history for chile like they always try to do in world cups and davis cup :D

Like they always lose you mean?

Well that's funny, considering that tennis was one of the nine original sports in the first modern olympics.

Anyway, as much as you want to sit in this thread like the troll under the bridge in Billy Goats Gruff and denigrate and harrass anyone who dares say that Olympic tennis is important, it's not going to change the fact that for the vast majority of tennis players, reporters, and fans, Olympic tennis is at least as important as the YEC.

The original olympics happened in Greece and I'm sure there was no tennis there.

nolop
10-02-2007, 04:10 AM
ok......, what an idiot :rolleyes:

GlennMirnyi
10-02-2007, 04:19 AM
You write meybe and have the guts to call me an idiot? :haha:

nolop
10-02-2007, 06:31 PM
You write meybe and have the guts to call me an idiot? :haha:

i may be the worst english writer but you are still an idiot :D :wavey:

GlennMirnyi
10-02-2007, 06:34 PM
i may be the worst english writer but you are still an idiot :D :wavey:

:haha:

WELL START FENA! :haha:

Get a clue, cretin.

Scotso
10-02-2007, 08:47 PM
Olympics

NYCtennisfan
10-03-2007, 12:33 AM
I am very surprised that so many posters have picked the Olympics, but then again, most of the posters here are quite young. The YEC is a tradition and at times in the 70's and 80's meant more than some of the slams to some of the players. You have to qualify and then win the thing and it's not easy. They've been playing it since 1970 and only 18 players have ever won one. The YEC is a big part of tennis history and its importance far exceeds that of the Olympic gold as of right now.

Merton
10-03-2007, 12:57 AM
Tennis tradition clearly says YEC (soon to become WTF :o ) but players seem to value the Olympics a lot.

cobalt60
10-03-2007, 01:57 AM
How about asking the ATP to poll the players;)

ReturnWinner
10-03-2007, 02:06 AM
I am very surprised that so many posters have picked the Olympics, but then again, most of the posters here are quite young

Most of them are fanboys and fangirls , so not a really big suprise.

GlennMirnyi
10-03-2007, 02:08 AM
Most of them are fanboys and fangirls , so not a really big suprise.

You can't be Argie. Your posting level is too high. :confused:

kabuki
10-03-2007, 02:33 AM
The original olympics happened in Greece and I'm sure there was no tennis there.


If you had basic reading comprehension skills, official thread troll, you would have noted that I said first MODERN Olympics, which was in Athens and which did include tennis.

cobalt60
10-03-2007, 02:36 AM
Oh man can't we all play nice?;) Look I spoke with Massu about a year after he had won his golds. It is important to someone like him who'll never make it to a YEC. Important in a number of ways to him as well. So it is all relative depending on the player. And in his country doubtful winning 2 golds is a feat that will happen again soon so he has found his place in his country's history. Makes no difference what MTF thinks.

kabuki
10-03-2007, 02:41 AM
I am very surprised that so many posters have picked the Olympics, but then again, most of the posters here are quite young. The YEC is a tradition and at times in the 70's and 80's meant more than some of the slams to some of the players. You have to qualify and then win the thing and it's not easy. They've been playing it since 1970 and only 18 players have ever won one. The YEC is a big part of tennis history and its importance far exceeds that of the Olympic gold as of right now.

Meant being the key word there. Nowadays (not the past you describe) the YEC is a distant fifth to the slams. Using your own criteria, the small number men that have won it, the Olympic gold could be considered even more valuable considering that only one man wins it every four years.

nolop
10-03-2007, 03:03 AM
Oh man can't we all play nice?;) Look I spoke with Massu about a year after he had won his golds. It is important to someone like him who'll never make it to a YEC. Important in a number of ways to him as well. So it is all relative depending on the player. And in his country doubtful winning 2 golds is a feat that will happen again soon so he has found his place in his country's history. Makes no difference what MTF thinks.

:worship:

oz_boz
10-04-2007, 10:32 PM
Oh man can't we all play nice?;) Look I spoke with Massu about a year after he had won his golds. It is important to someone like him who'll never make it to a YEC. Important in a number of ways to him as well. So it is all relative depending on the player. And in his country doubtful winning 2 golds is a feat that will happen again soon so he has found his place in his country's history. Makes no difference what MTF thinks.

Took the liberty to bold an important sentence.

Again, I am with NYCtennisfan on this. Olympic Gold could mean a lot if you want to be recognized by casual and non-fans. But I followed tennis semi-closely in the 90's and closer since 2004, I knew about Corretja's TMC win but had no idea about Massu until I dug into MTF - just as I don't know, or care about, who are Olympic football champs as of now.

Eden
10-04-2007, 11:20 PM
Which one do yuo consider to be more important, and why?

Tennis hasn't a long tradition in the Olympic Games and we have seen several players not competiting in the tennis Olympic tournaments. The Olympic Games are special as they only take place every 4 years and the sportsmen get the chance to meet other sportsmen from different sports. I think the perception of the success at the tennis Olympic tournament depends also on the overall achievements of the players. Agassi for example isn't remembered for his Gold medal immediately when you think of his career - well, at least for me ;) All the players who won their medals at the Olympic Games have deserved them as they wanted to participate at the tournament and it isn't the fault of a player as Massu that other players, who were more favourite to win the Gold medal have lost early in the tournament.

The Masters is the gathering of the 8 players who have been the best during the season and I really like the idea of that tournament to determine the best player. It's a good ending for the tennis year.

I remember comments from winter sportsmen who rank their World Cup success higher than a medal at the World Cup or Olympic games because it's the overall season which count for them and I think that's a fair statement, but of course the tradition of the Olympic Games can't be denied.

cobalt60
10-05-2007, 11:28 PM
Took the liberty to bold an important sentence.

Again, I am with NYCtennisfan on this. Olympic Gold could mean a lot if you want to be recognized by casual and non-fans. But I followed tennis semi-closely in the 90's and closer since 2004, I knew about Corretja's TMC win but had no idea about Massu until I dug into MTF - just as I don't know, or care about, who are Olympic football champs as of now.

Feel free to take liberties :devil:
Back to the subject at hand;) For Massu those golds made Olympic history, Chilean sports history, confidence at the time, and $$$$ also at the time. But I agree casual and nontennis fans took notice as well.

GlennMirnyi
10-06-2007, 03:43 AM
If you had basic reading comprehension skills, official thread troll, you would have noted that I said first MODERN Olympics, which was in Athens and which did include tennis.

Modern olympics have turned into a circus. Soon they'll make chess an olympic sport.

Alonsofz
10-06-2007, 04:03 AM
^ :retard:

GlennMirnyi
10-06-2007, 04:08 AM
Cheering Massu and Gonzalez = :retard: :retard: :retard:

stacy25
10-06-2007, 04:17 AM
Olympics

NicoFan
10-07-2007, 01:15 PM
I am very surprised that so many posters have picked the Olympics, but then again, most of the posters here are quite young. The YEC is a tradition and at times in the 70's and 80's meant more than some of the slams to some of the players. You have to qualify and then win the thing and it's not easy. They've been playing it since 1970 and only 18 players have ever won one. The YEC is a big part of tennis history and its importance far exceeds that of the Olympic gold as of right now.

I'm surprised that you are surprised. :lol:

Unless you are a diehard tennis fan, YEC means almost nothing to the casual tennis fans who barely watch it.

The Olympics have history, tradition, prestige. I lived in Atlanta during the 1996 Olympics, and there is an atmosphere and excitement about the games that you just don't see in most other sports events. Just because diehard fans don't take it seriously, doesn't mean that the casual fan doesn't look at it...as well as people just tuning in to watch any sport that is on during that time.

I remember after Nico and Fernando won their golds, the people at the US Open were all watching them....people who didn't even know they existed before Athens 2004.

Stgobaiano
10-07-2007, 05:08 PM
Olympics= Masters Series. except IW and Key Biscayne which are more important.


TMC>>>>>>Olympics. being objective