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EU announced a day against death sentence yesterday

mtw
09-28-2007, 05:04 PM
EU announced a day against death penalty yesterday. Only Poland was against this day among all Europeans countries. What can be said here? I am not follower of death penalty. It is problem very open to question.
But this day in Europe is only testimony on hypocrisy of European officials. Before this ,,great,, day - fight in the name of all hard criminals, NATO coalition ( European officials : Italian, Danish, German, of course Polish and many others NATO members sent troops there to decimate people)killed in Afghanistan 170 people. The only day, who they should announce, it should be a day without genocide and day of observance of human rights. And maybe this hypocrisy will get forward and we will respect only rights of genocides and criminals because many actual officials indentify theirselves with them.

Heavenseventeen
09-28-2007, 06:32 PM
I won't be celebrating. I'm not sure if I'm for or against the death penalty but I won't be celebrating/acknowledging this day. I'd rather remember people who died during the slave trade or Holocaust victims or war victims than murderers.

*snowflake*
09-28-2007, 10:05 PM
I don't think that some ppl deserve to die but i think that some ppl don't deserve to live...especially cause those ppl live off of the taxes you pay so why the heck would i pay for a mass murderer's daily needs?

A day against death sentence gives me the impression like we're honoring the death sentenced criminals which is a slap in the face to all the families that were affected by them. And i would be in no way "celebrating" or even acknowledging this day as a fight against something. I will fight against poverty, prejudice, racism, disease etc. but being humane to ppl that don't have a humane bone in their bodies i shall not!

Jogy
09-29-2007, 01:16 PM
very true what post no2 say!

first remember the victims and eliminate cruel and unfair punishments in some country like in some far east countries, China or so

but don't say you are against that a real murderer dies and then push money into war to help kill innocent people

buddyholly
09-29-2007, 01:30 PM
Whoever thought up an ''anti death penalty day'' should be shot.

Black Adam
09-29-2007, 03:04 PM
I think Death Penally could be used here to scare some sense into gangs and yobs. Gang warfare is gaining popularity among youngsters at high rate. Worst of all by Life sentence they mean you can be free after 20+ years :rolleyes: Either full life sentence or back to hanging.

Jim Jones
09-29-2007, 03:21 PM
I am a supporter of the death penalty like other nations.

Adler
09-29-2007, 05:55 PM
I'm against death penalty, but there's too much emotions about this day and Poland's objection

Bilbo
09-29-2007, 06:50 PM
I am a supporter of the death penalty like other nations.

not that much of a surprise. you think like a true american.

Castafiore
09-29-2007, 07:23 PM
I won't be celebrating. I'm not sure if I'm for or against the death penalty but I won't be celebrating/acknowledging this day. I'd rather remember people who died during the slave trade or Holocaust victims or war victims than murderers.
Why pick?
Just because on a particular day the EU decides to pay attention to the death penalty, that doesn't mean that people can't remember victims of war/slave trade/holocaust/...at the same time. There's nothing wrong with drawing attention to various problems (small and big), is there?

I don't particularly feel sorry when somebody who has committed a terrible murder gets the death penalty but it's not always that clear-cut, is it? To give two examples:
In Iran, people have received the death penalty (public hanging) just for being gay.
In Nigeria, a woman received the death penalty (public stoning) for adultery
With these two examples in mind, I do think that it's worth thinking about the death penalty. If you decide to stop and think about the death penalty for a moment, it's not to honor criminals.

Lee
09-29-2007, 07:28 PM
not that much of a surprise. you think like a true american.

:lol: What do a true American think?

Not every states in USA have death penalty. So some Americans in some states are not true Americans but some are? :rolls:

Jim Jones
09-29-2007, 07:54 PM
not that much of a surprise. you think like a true american.

I guess I think like a true Indian, my friend. India, my country has the death penalty. :yeah:

Bilbo
09-29-2007, 08:23 PM
I guess I think like a true Indian, my friend. India, my country has the death penalty. :yeah:

I always knew you are not a real Swiss from your political views. You probably don't even live in Switzerland.

Bilbo
09-29-2007, 08:25 PM
:lol: What do a true American think?

Not every states in USA have death penalty. So some Americans in some states are not true Americans but some are? :rolls:

true americans = people from texas = bush's castle

Lee
09-29-2007, 08:48 PM
true americans = people from texas = bush's castle

LMAO

Black Adam
09-29-2007, 09:12 PM
true americans = people from texas = bush's castle :haha: :lol:
Texas is frightening when it comes to the death penalty. I think it's more like : Guilty till proven innocent down there. They also don't want to spend taxes feeding these guys whilst they are in prison for life.

People will always be divided on this. Some are eye for an eye and some would like to see the person suffer for the rest of his life confined in a small cell. I am for life in prison as it seems to be a very effective deterrent against murder when applied well (In Europe for example when compared to USA, Iran, China etc, though without guns available it's normal that we don't have so many murders committed) In France 6 people on life in Prison petitioned to get executed as life in prison is the worst possible punishment according to them. Tells a lot about which is the most effective form of punishment imo.

Paul Banks
09-29-2007, 09:46 PM
Look at the list of countries with death penalty vs countries without it. Enough said.

Scotso
09-29-2007, 09:49 PM
Only Poland was against this day among all Europeans countries.

What backward country Poland. All leaders kill of the people. The people kill of the people, too. Is most evil people in world. Probably only kill of the Jews and gays.

Scotso
09-29-2007, 09:52 PM
In an ideal world, I support the death penalty. But because many innocent people are still convicted, it's difficult to be truly in favor of it. I'd rather have people get away with "lighter" sentences for murder than an innocent person be put to death.

But if we could be sure of someone's guilt, I definitely support the death penalty. I don't really see it as a punishment, though, more of a guarantee that they'll never be able to hurt anyone again.

buddyholly
09-29-2007, 11:02 PM
true americans = people from texas = bush's castle

When they typed out your birth certificate I think someone made a typo on the lower right of the keyboard.

buddyholly
09-29-2007, 11:05 PM
What backward country Poland. All leaders kill of the people. The people kill of the people, too. Is most evil people in world. Probably only kill of the Jews and gays.:rolls:

Could be plagiarism.

Bilbo
09-29-2007, 11:13 PM
When they typed out your birth certificate I think someone made a typo on the lower right of the keyboard.

so why does texas has the highest number of death penalties? as far as i know they've nearly 50% of all death penalties in the history of the USA. this state also has the highest number of republican voters.

Bilbo
09-29-2007, 11:23 PM
with a total of 1,097 executions texas alone has 403. the USA is the only industrial nation with a death penalty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_United_States

so much for Texas is frightening when it comes to the death penalty. worst state in the USA. typical republican home soil.

Winston's Human
09-30-2007, 03:05 AM
:haha: :lol:
Texas is frightening when it comes to the death penalty. I think it's more like : Guilty till proven innocent down there.

The last time I checked (which I think was yesterday), we still have the presumption of innocence in Texas.

MusicMyst
09-30-2007, 03:18 AM
Bilbo, you're an embarrassment not only to Germans, but also hobbits.

MusicMyst
09-30-2007, 03:20 AM
What backward country Poland. All leaders kill of the people. The people kill of the people, too. Is most evil people in world. Probably only kill of the Jews and gays.

:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

World Beater
09-30-2007, 04:51 AM
What backward country Poland. All leaders kill of the people. The people kill of the people, too. Is most evil people in world. Probably only kill of the Jews and gays.

:haha:

:haha:

brilliant

Sofyaxo
09-30-2007, 04:58 AM
It's sad that this could have been a fun debate thread and instead we get one person trying to bring down American, because you know that's the only country with the death penalty. Actually though some states execute a large number of people at least it's over something that is acutally a crime against humanity unlike being gay. But yeah, America is evil. Bad Americans. Shame on you, and those Bush cones in Texas.

Like J said there are holes and innocent people have died. Personally I think the death penality should be reserved for repeat offenders. Serial killers. People already in prisons who kill other prisoners. That kind of thing.

It's a whole big moral thing. I was against the death penalty till I studied criminals.


People will always be divided on this. Some are eye for an eye and some would like to see the person suffer for the rest of his life confined in a small cell. I am for life in prison as it seems to be a very effective deterrent against murder when applied well (In Europe for example when compared to USA, Iran, China etc, though without guns available it's normal that we don't have so many murders committed) In France 6 people on life in Prison petitioned to get executed as life in prison is the worst possible punishment according to them. Tells a lot about which is the most effective form of punishment imo.

The only catch is that many criminals who commit sever crimes (the ones you'd get death penalty for) have sociopathic traits and don't feel guilty about what they do. It's not suffering or rotting away it's a paid home away from the rest of the world.

A lot of criminals are also repeat offenders because life in jail is so much better for them in than out. So I don't know if that's really a deterrent for people who just don't care, and know that if they do something bad they'll still be cared for and housed. Their biggest issue will be gangs and even then the prisoners can be separated if they feel they are in real danger.

Black Adam
10-01-2007, 01:54 PM
The last time I checked (which I think was yesterday), we still have the presumption of innocence in Texas.Not when you are black or hispanic. There are many examples of this happening in Texas.

Jim Jones
10-01-2007, 08:10 PM
Not when you are black or hispanic. There are many examples of this happening in Texas.

Don't worry, whites are executed too for their crimes. You people are not as privileged as you may think.

Black Adam
10-01-2007, 09:39 PM
Don't worry, whites are executed too for their crimes. You people are not as privileged as you may think.

I am not talking about privileges but more of double standards and stereotypes. My point is to this day in some Southern states, when you are black or Hispanic and murder a white person you automatically get the chair whereas when it's vice versa they reluctantly sentence to death and in some cases just some time as a guest of the state.

I heard of a small town somewhere in Texas where 8 Blacks were executed in the last century yet no white person has been found deserving the Chair. In the most extreme case a white guy murdered a black girl all he got was 3 months from an all white jury! Enough said about the Death Penalty as some innocent people are executed whilst some escape.

Racism is now very stealth in the South, and when you are either Black or Hispanic and are a suspect in a murder case, the notion Guilty till proven innocent will be very likely to apply to you.

Winston's Human
10-01-2007, 10:17 PM
No one automatically gets a death sentence, even in Texas. Only certain murders qualify for the death penalty, and the death penalty is not sought in many death-eligible cases.