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The SAFIN is a cheat cheering thread

Champion number 1
05-30-2004, 10:15 AM
How does it feel for a player ranked where he is to need to cheat to beat number 202 in the world, boooooooooooo.

Chloe le Bopper
05-30-2004, 05:55 PM
I'm glad somebody made a thread. We can make one for Coria when he "cheats" this tournament ;)

tangerine_dream
05-30-2004, 06:03 PM
This thread

:haha:

Chloe le Bopper
05-30-2004, 06:07 PM
Iv'e come to the conclusion that the reason Safin has irked me so much by acting like Coria is that I always thought he was better than that. I had the bullshit illusion of him being a "fair" player. *snort* Thanks for shitting on that image, Marat. At least Coria doesn't hide the fact that he's a "cheat" ;)

Deboogle!.
05-30-2004, 06:11 PM
But Coria's never done the stuff with line calls has he? That's not cheating per se but to use such crappy tactics to distract your inexperienced opponent are what I don't like. The injury timeout doesn't even really bother me, it's the other crap he did. In fact this was really the first time I'd ever heard of a player pre-empting line calls just to be intimidating at crucial points. Is this commonplace :confused:

WyveN
05-30-2004, 06:14 PM
fact this was really the first time I'd ever heard of a player pre-empting line calls just to be intimidating at crucial points. Is this commonplace :confused:

Coria has self appointed himself as line judge on occasion

Deboogle!.
05-30-2004, 06:18 PM
Coria has self appointed himself as line judge on occasion

Right, so have a lot of players, but for no other apparent reason than to be a jerk and intimidate the opponent at really important points (I'm not defending Coria, just asking b/c I don't know.)?

Chloe le Bopper
05-30-2004, 06:23 PM
bunk, I don't think that such behavior is beyond Coria. I haven't seen him do it before, but seeing as I only see his matches a few times a year, that is undoubtedly why. I'm sure he has ;)

Tennis Fool
05-30-2004, 06:23 PM
Why stop at Safin? Let's make this a thread for everyone accused or suspected of cheating past and present:
Coria
Duckboy
Henin
Robredo
Clijsters
Williams Sisters
McEnroe, older
Connors

Anyone else come to mind :confused:

Vass
05-30-2004, 06:24 PM
But Coria's never done the stuff with line calls has he? That's not cheating per se but to use such crappy tactics to distract your inexperienced opponent are what I don't like. The injury timeout doesn't even really bother me, it's the other crap he did. In fact this was really the first time I'd ever heard of a player pre-empting line calls just to be intimidating at crucial points. Is this commonplace :confused:
Did you f@cking watch the match? The lines... Marat was right in these "line incidents" so shut up.

merle
05-30-2004, 06:25 PM
Did you f@cking watch the match? The lines... Marat was right in these "line incidents" so shut up.

Yeah, you're right Vass! And Marat was right! :)

Vass
05-30-2004, 06:26 PM
Why stop at Safin? Let's make this a thread for everyone accused or suspected of cheating past and present:
Coria
Duckboy
Henin
Robredo
Clijsters
Williams Sisters
McEnroe, older
Connors

Anyone else come to mind :confused:

SO true!

alfonsojose
05-30-2004, 06:29 PM
The "Magician" Coria and now .. the "Apprentice" Safin, pulling tricks against somebody ranked so low.. :(

Chloe le Bopper
05-30-2004, 06:33 PM
Why stop at Safin? Let's make this a thread for everyone accused or suspected of cheating past and present:
Coria
Duckboy
Henin
Robredo
Clijsters
Williams Sisters
McEnroe, older
Connors

Anyone else come to mind :confused:
In case you failed to notice, Coria, Robedo, and Roddick do have threads made everytime they so much as squeak their shoes. So quit bitching, Safin apologists.

Deboogle!.
05-30-2004, 06:33 PM
TF be quiet. Everyone's done it at some point, and they get their due here at friendly MTF. Hell Andy's Lapentti match is still brought up on this board 2 years later. It's Marat's turn now :o

Chloe le Bopper
05-30-2004, 06:34 PM
The "Magician" Coria and now .. the "Apprentice" Safin, pulling tricks against somebody ranked so low.. :(
Oh, but it's okay when Marat does it because blah blah blah blah. Right, Safin apologists? Right?

Chloe le Bopper
05-30-2004, 06:35 PM
TF be quiet. Everyone's done it at some point, and they get their due here at friendly MTF. Hell Andy's Lapentti match is still brought up on this board 2 years later. It's Marat's turn now :o
No no, Marat doesn't get a turn. He's a perfect gentleman at all times. He's the greatest sportsman that ever lived. Oh, and did I mention that he's just SO DREAMY, and hot people never do anything wrong? I love Marat, and he's always right.

Signed,

Safin apologist Rebecca

Deboogle!.
05-30-2004, 06:36 PM
No no, Marat doesn't get a turn. He's a perfect gentleman at all times. He's the greatest sportsman that ever lived. Oh, and did I mention that he's just SO DREAMY, and hot people never do anything wrong? I love Marat, and he's always right.

Signed,

Safin apologist Rebecca

:lol: :yeah:

Havok
05-30-2004, 06:37 PM
:drive: Safin the cheat :drive:

Vass
05-30-2004, 06:39 PM
The "Magician" Coria and now .. the "Apprentice" Safin, pulling tricks against somebody ranked so low.. :(
If you take it by the rankings, well how about this pure maths:

Starace beat Grosjean , the number 10 in the world. Marat is currently ranked 20. Hence, Starace was supposed to beat Marat. SO: Marat pulled this trick against a player to whom he was doomed to lose, hence don't bring this No200 thing. You perfectly know that Starace was playing way better than his ranking.

WyveN
05-30-2004, 06:42 PM
Right, so have a lot of players, but for no other apparent reason than to be a jerk and intimidate the opponent at really important points (I'm not defending Coria, just asking b/c I don't know.)?


im not sure what his motives were but surely he was trying to intimidate someone, if not the opponent then lines people or the umpire

Chloe le Bopper
05-30-2004, 06:43 PM
If you take it by the rankings, well how about this pure maths:

Starace beat Grosjean , the number 10 in the world. Marat is currently ranked 20. Hence, Starace was supposed to beat Marat. SO: Marat pulled this trick against a player to whom he was doomed to lose, hence don't bring this No200 thing. You perfectly know that Starace was playing way better than his ranking.
That... doesn't really work. Though I would agree that Starace was likely playing above his ranking, but I didn't get to see him play so can't say for sure. I just assume that somebody who won two rounds in a slam is playing above 200 and whatever ;)

Either way, his tactics were crap ;)

CooCooCachoo
05-30-2004, 06:44 PM
I'm glad somebody made a thread. We can make one for Coria when he "cheats" this tournament

Can we make one, regardless of whether he cheats or not? :D

Horatio Caine
05-30-2004, 06:46 PM
Can we make one, regardless of whether he cheats or not? :D

Yeah why not! Why not make a crying thread for him. He is bound to cry, whether it is tears of joy (more likely :( ) or tears of anguish (hopefully! :) ).

Chloe le Bopper
05-30-2004, 06:46 PM
Can we make one, regardless of whether he cheats or not? :D
Go for it!

Vass
05-30-2004, 06:50 PM
That... doesn't really work. Though I would agree that Starace was likely playing above his ranking, but I didn't get to see him play so can't say for sure. I just assume that somebody who won two rounds in a slam is playing above 200 and whatever ;)

Either way, his tactics were crap ;)
Ok, Starace was playing like a NO200 in the world. That's a given. He had match points, challenged Safin, hence Marat was playing like No.199 (just a bit better than Potito). If Marat was playing crap, his standard was low. If his standard was low, than " That was a cheap shot for a player of his standard" doesn't make sense. They were playing on the same level standard, i should say (by the score, stats).

It was a controvercial tactic (IF it was a tactic), I agree. But I will not stop defending him. When Andy did it (remember that Bunk mentioned it first) I think I can safely assume that he had "apologists". Why is it so bad if I'm one for Marat?

PS: If you player is treated unfair, does it mean other in same situation should be treated the same? Now, I never laughed at Roddick anyway.

Ace Tracker
05-30-2004, 06:51 PM
well, I haven't been to the board for months now, and I am not current with the latest sizzling gossips... what has Coria exactly done to deserve all the hateful love herein displayed? ;)

maratski
05-30-2004, 06:54 PM
Watch a match before you comment on it Rebecca

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Tennis Fool
05-30-2004, 07:07 PM
TF be quiet.
:nerner:

Tennis Fool
05-30-2004, 07:14 PM
In case you failed to notice, Coria, Robedo, and Roddick do have threads made everytime they so much as squeak their shoes. So quit bitching, Safin apologists.

All Hail, the QUEEN has awaken from her slumber!

:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

Chloe le Bopper
05-30-2004, 07:23 PM
Watch a match before you comment on it Rebecca

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Read my posts and establish that you've actually understood them before responding to me, Queen Safin Apologist.

maratski
05-30-2004, 07:30 PM
Read my posts and establish that you've actually understood them before responding to me, Queen Safin Apologist.

I have read them in all the various threads.

Your style is always the same. Nitpicking is something you love and although you don't get to see that much tennis, you always have an opinion and think you're right. Copying from one board to the other or just criticising minor details.

I think that right now I can establish that I read your posts and think most of it is bullshit.

Chloe le Bopper
05-30-2004, 07:36 PM
Your style is always the same. Nitpicking is something you love and although you don't get to see that much tennis, you always have an opinion and think you're right. Copying from one board to the other or just criticising minor details.

I think that right now I can establish that I read your posts and think most of it is bullshit.

Seeing as you don't even understand why I'm bothering with this matter, no, you don't understand a heck of a lot ;) And I've only stated about 12 times why I am, so congrats on missing all those posts that you apparently read so well!

By the way, if you don't like the fact that I'm opinionated, I have two words for you ;)

Havok
05-30-2004, 07:55 PM
Ok, Starace was playing like NO200. That's a given. He had match points, hence Marat was playing like No.199. If Marat was playing crap, his standard was low. If his standard was low, than " That was a cheap shot for a player pf his standard" doesn't make sense. They were playing on the same level standard, i should say (by the score, stats).

It was a controvercial tactic (IF it was a tactic), I agree. But I will not stop defending him. When Andy did it (remember that Bunk mentioned it first) I think I can safely assume that he had "apologists". Why is it so bad if I'm one for Marat?

PS: If you player is treated unfair, does it mean other in same situation should be treated the same? Now, I never laughed at Roddick anyway.
I think we need heya to tell us what's really going on in this post :retard:

Tennis Fool
05-30-2004, 09:00 PM
Read my posts and establish that you've actually understood them before responding to me, Queen Safin Apologist.
No! There can only be one Queen :worship:

proteus
05-30-2004, 09:02 PM
...
By the way, if you don't like the fact that I'm opinionated, I have two words for you ;)
French Open?

LCeh
05-30-2004, 09:07 PM
I think we need heya to tell us what's really going on in this post :retard:

:haha: :devil:

Needless to say, I don't appreciate Marat's antics, but I didn't really like him anyway, so lucky for me I don't have to put up with it. If my fav did that, I would be :mad:

sigmagirl91
05-30-2004, 09:24 PM
Ok, Starace was playing like NO200. That's a given. He had match points, hence Marat was playing like No.199. If Marat was playing crap, his standard was low. If his standard was low, than " That was a cheap shot for a player pf his standard" doesn't make sense. They were playing on the same level standard, i should say (by the score, stats).

It was a controvercial tactic (IF it was a tactic), I agree. But I will not stop defending him. When Andy did it (remember that Bunk mentioned it first) I think I can safely assume that he had "apologists". Why is it so bad if I'm one for Marat?

PS: If you player is treated unfair, does it mean other in same situation should be treated the same? Now, I never laughed at Roddick anyway.

'Scuse me, what? I can't understand you. :rolleyes:

Chloe le Bopper
05-31-2004, 01:46 AM
French Open?
Yes! How did you know?

Ilhame - I would just like to note that it's funny you criticize somebody who seems to have an opinion conflicting with yours (and that isn't even entirely right, but whatever. That is how you seem to be reading it) for not having seen the match... and only somebody who's opinion conflicts with yours. I haven't seen you criticize anybody who agrees with you who failed to see the match take place. Again, all of this was irrelevant to my point, which was simply that his timeout was timed as conveniently as those of other players in the past, but it's okay when Marat does it (people are finalyl ragging on him for it, mind you, but it took bloody long enough). I just thought that I'm point out your glaring inconsistency on that one while it was still fresh in mind :wavey:

Chloe le Bopper
05-31-2004, 01:47 AM
:haha: :devil:

Needless to say, I don't appreciate Marat's antics, but I didn't really like him anyway, so lucky for me I don't have to put up with it. If my fav did that, I would be :mad:
You get used to it after a while ;) (your faves doing it, that is)

Action Jackson
05-31-2004, 04:05 AM
bunk, I don't think that such behavior is beyond Coria. I haven't seen him do it before, but seeing as I only see his matches a few times a year, that is undoubtedly why. I'm sure he has ;)

You wouldn't admit to it anyway Becca, and yes he has done that on many occasions. Then again he could always call for an injury timeout.

Chloe le Bopper
05-31-2004, 10:31 AM
You wouldn't admit to it anyway Becca, and yes he has done that on many occasions. Then again he could always call for an injury timeout.
Since when have I not admitted to Coria's behavior? I've been doing it over three different threads. I don't appreciate that comment, as it's simply untrue.

Chloe le Bopper
05-31-2004, 10:32 AM
^^ hell, I said in the very post you quoted that such behavior isn't beyond Coria.

Chrisie
06-01-2004, 04:00 AM
Oops, he (Marat) did it...

gina_
06-01-2004, 04:42 AM
I don't see how we can possibly judge when we aren't the players themselves. So maybe they had the intention to cheat and then maybe they were genuine...

so wth. this thread is pointless cuz we'll never know.

so just stfu and get on with supporting.

i don't see coria as a cheat. he's whiny and stubborn but i don't think he's a cheat. but you see thats the impression i want to stick by and whether or not he cheats WE WILL NEVER KNOW.

so, yes. pointless arguments.

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-01-2004, 06:05 AM
How exactly does cheating occur in tennis?! Did Safin and Coria hide their opponents rackets, or switch their shoes before the match?! Whatever Safin and Coria did, I can't imagine it's my idea of cheating

But in all seriousness, what did Safin do that has everyone fuming?! Is this the situation in the Mantilla match with calling the trainer?!

Supersonik
06-01-2004, 06:36 AM
How exactly does cheating occur in tennis?! Did Safin and Coria hide their opponents rackets, or switch their shoes before the match?! Whatever Safin and Coria did, I can't imagine it's my idea of cheating

But in all seriousness, what did Safin do that has everyone fuming?! Is this the situation in the Mantilla match with calling the trainer?!

There have been a few threads about Safin's antics already. It's not cheating as it's within the rules what Safin did and Coria does regularly when it comes to injury timeouts, but it's the rule that's the problem and they are taking advantage of the rules. Technically it's not cheating, just a low form of gamesmanship.

Bubble
06-01-2004, 07:38 AM
I do not think that Safin can be classified a cheat or using gamesmanship, as he has mentioned in his interview, he was really in pain with his blisters, he can't even hold the racquet, so how can he continue even if it's between a game?

Besides, in yesterday's match, he apologised to David during the last injury timeout and apologised again at the end of the match after he lost, this goes to show that he is really forced by circumstances to stop the match.