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Is it possible???an all argentine semifinals???

willie
05-29-2004, 11:36 PM
in the last 16 there are 4 argentines, Nalbandian in the first section of the draw, Gaudio in the second, Coria in the third section, and Chela in the lower part of the draw.
I know that could be becuase i am argentine and i want it to happen, but is it possible that we can see an all-argentine semifinal as last year in the masters of hamburg????
Kuerten
vs.
lopez

safin
vs.
nalbandian

andreev
vs.
gaudio

hewitt
vs.
costa/malisse

moya
vs.
robredo

escude
vs.
coria

llodra
vs.
henman

chela
vs.
mutis

i think the most difficult draw is for nalbandian but safin is tired and i dont think kuerten can do it again.

YoursTruly
05-29-2004, 11:41 PM
It is possible because the Argentines are not only an abundance in number, but they have the games behind it. BUT.....

MY CARLITOS is still in it and is a force to be reckoned with!!! :bigclap:

fco253
05-29-2004, 11:53 PM
I think the odds of all 4 pulling thru are too low, but the fact they still have the chance only two rounds apart, and that they are not individually long shots in any of them, is really remarkable...

Funny thing the strongest two (David and Guille) have the most diffcult draws, so none is a sure thing... they can go from 0 to 4...

Carito_90
05-30-2004, 01:09 AM
It could happen, but you never know when a player's gonna have a bad day and loose. It might not happen tho. who knows.

Ballbuster
05-30-2004, 01:17 AM
Nalbandian's worst surface is clay, I can't see him getting past Kuerten and Safin

TheGrandstand
05-30-2004, 01:54 AM
I never got the statement about Nalbandian's worse surface being clay, everyone always says it. The guy's a backboard without a top notch serve and volley game. Sounds like a clay courter to me.

Rex
05-30-2004, 05:25 AM
i dunno, i would think it was a possibility, but tennis is sometimes all about luck!

coolman
05-30-2004, 05:28 AM
Lleyton I think is the one that's the hardest to beat for the Argentine Gadio. Coria will take out Moya:) And Chela is good euff. Safin is tired, Gustav wont be lucky against Lopez who is the better clay player next week. So the whole just might happen? Who is the last Argentines to win French Open by the way? Is t Sabatini?:)

Chloe le Bopper
05-30-2004, 06:52 AM
I never got the statement about Nalbandian's worse surface being clay, everyone always says it. The guy's a backboard without a top notch serve and volley game. Sounds like a clay courter to me.
His worst surface IS clay. Just look at his overall results. True, he's done very well on his wort surface... but it is just that - his worst surface.

Why that is, I can't tell you ;) It just is

FryslanBoppe
05-30-2004, 06:55 AM
His worst surface IS clay. Just look at his overall results. True, he's done very well on his wort surface... but it is just that - his worst surface.

Why that is, I can't tell you ;) It just is

He grew up playing on a hardcourt, yes he can play on clay one of his titles is on clay, but to do well in the South American it would help to have an ability to play on clay.

willie
05-30-2004, 02:46 PM
Lleyton I think is the one that's the hardest to beat for the Argentine Gadio. Coria will take out Moya:) And Chela is good euff. Safin is tired, Gustav wont be lucky against Lopez who is the better clay player next week. So the whole just might happen? Who is the last Argentines to win French Open by the way? Is t Sabatini?:)

no, sabatini never won roland garros, she won the us open, the last was guillermo vilas in the 70s

fat_bastard
05-30-2004, 02:49 PM
It's possible, but highly unlikely, IMO.

willie
05-30-2004, 02:54 PM
for the time the two that played today passed the to quarterfinals, chela won mutis 4-6 6-2 7-6 6-2 and coria won escude 6-0 and escude retired. tomorrow the other two, nalbandian with safin and gaudio with andreev.

argiesf
05-30-2004, 04:20 PM
I never got the statement about Nalbandian's worse surface being clay, everyone always says it. The guy's a backboard without a top notch serve and volley game. Sounds like a clay courter to me.

Nabandian in and interview said that he prefers faster surfaces - he feels more comfortable. It was this year in Montecarlo after his injury (ankle). It was the first time I heard him saying that.

That's why he did so well at the end of last year. Plus he grew up playing on hard courts.

alfonsojose
05-30-2004, 05:36 PM
Go Nalbadian and Gaudio :bounce: ;). I like Chela but Henman's run has been amazing :awww: And about Coria, i want him to lose so badly :devil:

Horatio Caine
05-30-2004, 05:42 PM
I think Henman might have something to say about that! He has destroyed the hopes of two Frenchies so cruelly, he may destroy the hopes of 2 Argies too...:devil:

Frooty_Bazooty
05-30-2004, 06:29 PM
I can see Nalby beating Safin but not Guga if guga plays like he did against Rogi, that was the guga of 3 years ago. then agin tho, gugas hip might give way

not sure bout gaudio either. i think he'll be at least taken to 5 by Andreev and if he wins he's got a tricky match against Hewitt/Malisse.

coria will defo make it, hopefully carlos will take a set off him tho

chela really should beat henman. im surprised its only chela's first grand slam quarter :eek:

jazz_girl
05-30-2004, 06:32 PM
I'd love to see David winning this and I don't think is that crazy, although it will be difficult for sure. But I have to say, that I'd love to see a Gaudio/Coria final, and Gaudio winning that...

CoriaFan4ever
05-30-2004, 06:52 PM
I think Henman might have something to say about that! He has destroyed the hopes of two Frenchies so cruelly, he may destroy the hopes of 2 Argies too...:devil:
yes because llodra and the other french guys are so compareable to chela and especially coria :rolleyes: :rolleyes: chela is going to eat henman alive, it will be total humiliation :wavey:

User ID 4783
05-30-2004, 06:52 PM
Yeah, it's possible, but Chela has to beat our new claycourter first :rolleyes: :haha:

Horatio Caine
05-30-2004, 06:54 PM
Yeah, it's possible, but Chela has to beat our new claycourter first :rolleyes: :haha:

Too right!

Horatio Caine
05-30-2004, 06:59 PM
yes because llodra and the other french guys are so compareable to chela and especially coria :rolleyes: :rolleyes: chela is going to eat henman alive, it will be total humiliation :wavey:

Did you actually see the Henman match? Llodra played an incredible match and if he had played like that against Chela then i think he might have been able to beat him. He played above himself and some of the shots he came up with were beyond belief. Besides, he had the French crowd cheering on Henman's double faults in the end and that still wasn't enough for him to be able to beat him! Henman is a very underrated player on clay and it is about time that people wake up and smell the roses. If Tim sleeps through the whole of tomorrow and is feeling good on Tuesday then he might beat chela. He has beaten him before on the clay two years ago and is far better on clay now. He will be a huge threat and he isn't expected to win either so he can play in a relaxed fashion.

Tim will win if he can take one of the first two sets off Chela. Another 2 sets to love down fightback is out of the question on Tuesday i'm afraid.

TheBoiledEgg
05-30-2004, 07:03 PM
Llodra played incedible :lol: that was bloody well awful

had he played Coria, Coria would have beaten him in 75 mins.

CoriaFan4ever
05-30-2004, 07:03 PM
[QUOTE=jez] Henman is a very underrated player on clay and it is about time that people wake up and smell the roses. QUOTE]
henman may be underrated on clay, but he hasnt exactly had a difficult draw thus far, no? Hes obviously done a good job, but he will be no match for Coria/Moya etc..as for the match vs. chela...if henman does manage to emerge victorious you can come back to me and ill gladly eat my words ;)

Horatio Caine
05-30-2004, 07:06 PM
Tim won't beat Coria, no matter how well he plays. I admit Coria is way too good for him and most, if not all, of the field. He will only be beaten if he is struggling with illness / injury and i wouldn't want to wish that on him. However, Chela is definitely beatable, whether you believe it or not. What do other people think about the Henman v Chela match?

Chloe le Bopper
05-30-2004, 07:12 PM
I certainly dont think that the Henman-Chela result is set in stone. Neither has proven themselves at this level on this surface before, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

joeb_uk
05-30-2004, 07:16 PM
im hoping it could be! that would be great

Horatio Caine
05-30-2004, 07:17 PM
Henman :worship: !!

joeb_uk
05-30-2004, 07:19 PM
i think it is possible, there has to be a argentine through. but 1,2,3,4 who knows

Horatio Caine
05-30-2004, 07:56 PM
Four won't make it to the semis.

Nalbandian won't make it if he comes across Kuerten in the form he was in when he beat Federer.

Gaudio is likely to choke somewhere along the line and i wouldn't be surprised if Andreev shocked him to be quite honest. If he does survive that then Hewitt will beat him without a doubt - Gaudio, like some players (Henman!) has a mental block when it comes to playing Hewitt.

Coria will make it - Moya is too careless to beat him. Vamos Carlos!!

Chela will only make it if Henman is too tired, which is highly likely. If Henman is sufficiently recovered then i think he will play a great match and could edge Chela out. However, i expect Chela to triumph in 3 hard fought sets.

fco253
05-31-2004, 06:20 PM
Never mind if they can't pull it ... it's amazing they have kept the chance open this far...

You have to consider we are not talking about GS or RG perennial contenders...three of them first timers here and two anywhere!!!!


BTW, special congrats to David, in just his THIRD full Grand Slam year, he has already reached QF in ALL FOUR SLAMS....

willie
05-31-2004, 09:43 PM
We are really near.....
i got a question, did this happen in another open era grand slam, 4 semifinalists of the same country?????

fco253
06-01-2004, 01:09 AM
Yes. 3 times:

Australians in AO 1976.
USA in US open 1979.
USA in AO 1995 (only previous one as visitors)

Never happened on RG or Wimby.