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Does Novak Djokovic have the WILL to become an all-time great?

Beer Monster
09-25-2007, 02:43 AM
There is no doubt that Novak Djokovic is a fabulous tennis player. His ability to reach the US Open final, the French Open and Wimbledon semi-finals and to win the Masters Series events in Miami and Montreal by the age of 20 only go to prove that emphatically.

However, his only major weakness - in my opinion, most of the people I speak to and the general view of most tennis commentators I listen to - is his WILL. He doesn't want to win badly enough!

There is no doubt that he wants to be a winner but does he want it so badly......so badly, he is obsessive in everything he does...so badly, he thinks nothing but winning 24 hours a day...so badly, he thinks winning is the sole objective in his life and nothing else or nobody else matters.

Novak's WILL has disappointed me on several occasions:

1) Wimbledon semi-final. Novak was playing well enough to win the first set, Nadal was playing poorly. Djokovic lost the second set (with two breaks of serve) and was also two breaks down in the third set when he retired at 4-1. The only injury as such was an injured blistered toe - he was suffering from a weary body, a weary mind and a pysychologically stronger opponent who was playing better tennis. At 1 set all, and 4-1, Novak Djokovic...quite purely a simply...just gave up, in a WIMBLEDON SEMI-FINAL. It is a distinct possibility that he might never reach that stage at Wimbledon ever again and when his one chance came along, he threw the towel in. Even if he'd lost the final two sets 6-1 6-0, at least he could have said he gave it everything.

Did he not understand that Rafael Nadal might have got nervous in closing out the match. Afterall, it was a Wimbledon semi-final, an event he had never won before and an opportunity to play a Wimbledon final! You at least make you opponent work for it. You just never know what can happen. Was he not watching the day before when Bartoli in the women's event lost the first set 6-1. Did she throw the towel in? No. Why? Because ANYTHING can happen in a Wimbledon semi-final, absolutely anything...as she demonstrated. Your opponent can get nervous, your opponent can start playing badly, your opponent can even get injured him/herself. And sure as...Henin did get nervous, started playing badly and Bartoli's ability to hang tough got her through the match. A woman whose WILL cannot be questioned on that evidence.

2) Carlos Moya, Cincinnati, Second Round:

Novak Djokovic just gave up in this match, almost from the very start. As soon as Djokovic lost the first set, it was as if he had no intention of winning whatsoever, and was quite literally going through the motions...like fulfilling a contractual obligation and nothing else. It wasn't because he had no confidence, wasn't playing well or was injured - he just couldn't be bothered. It was as if he thought winning Montreal was good enough for him and he had boxes to tick and after winning Montreal, Cincinnati wasn't one of them. Winning back-to-back Masters Series has been done many times...it's not a ridiculous feat...but Djokovic didn't even try to accomplish it. It's not as if it was just a normal ATP event, it was a Masters Series event, during his favourite stage of the year, on an outdoor hardcourt in North America. Conditions were perfect for him and he was in the form of his life.

On the other hand, Roger Federer did show a much stronger WILL. Whereas Djokovic was playing very close top the top of him game, Roger Federer quite clearly wasn't...yet it was Federer's dedication, will and professionalism that got him through the draw. There was one match in particular, against Hewitt in the semis, where Federer was playing awfully...absolutely dreadfully. He was making more unforced errors than I have seen him make in the past four years...but he showed character, a desire, a WILL to win...and that was enough to get him through, because without it, he would have succumbed easily.

3) The US Open Final:

I was very dissappointed with Djokovic, not so much during the US Open final but moreso after. He just looked pleased to reach the final, and didn't look the slightest bit dissapointed to lose in the heartbreaking way that he did...and let's make no bones about it, it was heartbreaking. He lost the first set after having five set points, all of them on his own serve and also three consecutively after leading 40-0...and then losing the second set after having two match points. He should have been 2 sets to 0 up, but instead, he lost in straight sets.

Djokovic did not convince me that he was heartbroken, gutted, dejected - as he should have been. He looked in good spirits, content. This to me is NOT the mind of a champion. Pete Sampras would have been livid with himself...utterly dejected. I remember the 1992 US Open Final when Sampras lost to Edberg, and Sampras was a broken man. As a result, it was a defining moment in his career as the disappointment he suffered that day inspired him, and motivated him to not suffer the same fate again...because he hated the taste of being a loser SO MUCH. Somehow, I think Djokovic took it too well, and I can't see it being the same defining moment in his career. As I looked into Sampras' eyes that day, I saw a roaring lion, hungry for success...as I looked in Djokovic's eyes 15 years later, I saw a man happy to play second fiddle.

4) Lleyton Hewitt, Andy Roddick, etc.

When Lleyton Hewitt was 18-21, the same agegroup that Djokovic is now..he used to scare me. He looked like a complete pysychopath on court. He screamed after virtually every point, yelled c'mon, fistpumped...he was a warrior. Pat Rafter nicknamed him "the mongrel". I looked at the blood pumping through his veins when he pumped his fist. I saw the scowl on his face, I thought he was going to burst a blood vessle. I saw him take his anger out on umpires, ball kids, opponents, fans...he wanted to take on the world. He had that bulldog spirit, and you either loved or hated him. I don't see that same spirit in Djokovic...and it is a spirit that most great players have at Djokovic's age. I see this spirit in Andy Murray, Rafael Nadal and many other players. It was evident with Andre Agassi, Bjorn Borg, John McEnroe, Jimmy Connors, Andy Roddick at a similar age. Even Pete Sampras and Roger Federer displayed this spirit right at the beginning of their careers. Novak Djokovic just doesn't have it. All players, Hewitt included, usually mellow as they grow older, maturer and more experienced - even if they maintain their spirit and enthusiasm - but I just don't see it in Djokovic at the moment.

Novak Djokovic's problem is that he just doesn't want it badly enough.

World Beater
09-25-2007, 02:44 AM
:scared:

dont provoke eztroll

i like your nick - beer monster..haha.

rofe
09-25-2007, 02:48 AM
:sad: :confused:

Allure
09-25-2007, 02:50 AM
Do you know how hard it is to be an all time great or one of the greatest players of all time or to be considered a tennis genius? Not every talented player can be an ''all time great'' like Federer, Sampras, Borg, Laver, McEnroe ect. LMAO :haha:

savesthedizzle
09-25-2007, 02:55 AM
Sorry the only response I can think of right now is :rolls:

TennisShoulder
09-25-2007, 03:01 AM
Excellent post, and a very interesting read.

I think Djokovic plays the important points very well. That often shows a very strong mind but in his case, I support your argument.

I can see him winning about 3 grand slams and dominating with Nadal for a short period when Federer is past his best or retired. I wouldn't put him in the all-time great bracket for potential.

alexbayen
09-25-2007, 03:08 AM
I, for one, think he has the will. His mental strength is definitely very superior, notwithstanding the US Open final. (hey, what about Fed losing Montreal the same way!)

But I don't think he has the skill to be an all-time great. Nothing in his game amazes me, yet. No Fed panache, no Nadal defence and no Sampras serve. Let's see him develop some of those skills first before we even have this debate.

Allure
09-25-2007, 03:11 AM
I see Ezekiel got to the poll. :p

TennisShoulder
09-25-2007, 03:18 AM
I, for one, think he has the will. His mental strength is definitely very superior, notwithstanding the US Open final. (hey, what about Fed losing Montreal the same way!)

But I don't think he has the skill to be an all-time great. Nothing in his game amazes me, yet. No Fed panache, no Nadal defence and no Sampras serve. Let's see him develop some of those skills first before we even have this debate.

I don't think the original poster is questioning his mental strength as such, i.e. his ability to play the big points well or seizing the initiative at the right time like all the great champions could do. I think he's saying that Djokovic has a lack of desire.

mangoes
09-25-2007, 04:14 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Just curious Beer Monster...........during the US Open, did you miss his antics with the water bottle?? It looked to me like he desired to win the US Open:shrug: Or did you want him to rip his clothes and cry out in fustration and anger after losing??

RagingLamb
09-25-2007, 04:24 AM
of course he does.

you think he just shows up and wins matches. if you look at his important matches, the degree of focus and how calculated each shot is, is pretty impressive. he's playing chess with his opponents and the guy's a worthy player.

He knows how close he is, you can sense that in him.

Aloimeh
09-25-2007, 04:27 AM
I think earlier this year Djokovic was trying to put in "good appearances" in the French and Wimbledon, i.e. to show "his quality" (as he puts it), and I don't think he really believed he had the ability to win it (more fear of Federer than Nadal). I think that after Montreal and especially at the US Open, he did believe he could win it and really wanted to. So I definitely think he will have the will to win in 2008.

NYCtennisfan
09-25-2007, 04:54 AM
Ezekiel has a supernatural ability to sniff out any sort of criticism leveled towards Djoko.

On topic, Djoko definitely has the will to become a great. Nothing would have allowed him to beat Nadal in that SF at Wimby. They could've played another 100 sets and he wouldn't have won one. He didn't have anything left and Nadal was in complete control.

After the USO, Djoko looked pleased because he had just gotten to a slam final and played the world's greatest player tough. His pleased look SHOWS me that he knows he will be a great some day because he knew he would play many more slam finals. He surely didn't look distraught because he had blown his only chance to win a slam.

CyBorg
09-25-2007, 05:29 AM
Definitely. I think that Djokovic is one of the tougher guys in tennis. He was nervous as hell in the US Open final, but this shouldn't come as unexpected.

I like his ability to slow the game down to his pace. I like his ability to harness his energy and release it at appropriate moments. He is smart and doesn't seem to lose his head at crucial times. And, lastly, he has a tendency to give his opponent false hope by the way he uses his body language to imply that he's finished when he really isn't. Guys like this succeed.

He's a tough dude. I can see him winning over five majors.

Forehander
09-25-2007, 06:39 AM
he won't win a grandslam

l_mac
09-25-2007, 07:50 AM
How are you defining "all time great"?

It doesn't matter. If he doesn't become an all time great it won't be because he doesn't have the will.

trixtah
09-25-2007, 08:11 AM
Definitely has the will...just look at the way he plays and the way he carries himself. He doesn't believe that he isn't able to surpass obstacles and that's what makes the greats. What say we just keep watching instead of putting him down? I was one of the first to call him a Djoke but I admit, he has game and the will

KitinovRules
09-25-2007, 08:33 AM
The will, I am sure.
The capaability- I am sure not.

He will need some extra: 5 medicals per match!:o

ezekiel
09-25-2007, 09:14 AM
He has self confidence to become a top playerer and that self confidence is built on hard work, mind and self awareness . These are the types that become cream of the crop in any business. He knows himself better than anybody so when he says he will be #1 , no one can argue about it . On the other hand he doesn't depend on others for self boost so when someone attacks him personally he doesn't even register it let alone take it. USO was kind of painful but that can be very good in the long run to get down that type of experience early in career

Peoples
09-25-2007, 11:38 AM
Who cares, he doesn't have the SKILL

aeronatasha
09-25-2007, 11:39 AM
He's got his mind set on it.
Time will tell.
Already doing very well, let's hope he'll continue.

CmonAussie
09-25-2007, 12:46 PM
****
#Djoko is going to win atleast a couple of slams, but will that make him great??
Nadal, Hewitt & Murray are different characters but perhaps less skillful than Novak!!

This year I think Djoko wanted to simply prove that he`s a Top-3 player, plus the fact that @ FO, Wimby, & USO he had to play quite a few tough mathces early~~>> by the time he got to the SFs/final I think he was physically & mentally spent!!

If Novak learns to reach Slam SFs without losing too much energy then his chances of winning will improve greatly!!

2007 was a surprise year for Djoko, he probably didn`t expect to rise so quickly~~ so I think he`s satisfied for this year... but I`m sure he`s hungry for the rest of his career [& the slams will come]!!

Farenhajt
09-25-2007, 12:52 PM
The will was apparent even in previous years (remember all those "cocky in a good way" public statements he's so disliked for?) - so the question is actually a non-question.

And NO player can rise so fast as Nole did without enough WILL to do it. And right now all the things general go his way, so I don't expect any decrease in his willpower - on the contrary. (Compare him "not seeing himself as a slam winner" at RG and Wimby and him now, after USO, then think about willpower :))

Bascule
09-25-2007, 01:31 PM
He absolutely proved that he has huge WILL, also having that "winner" attitude, so it's not the question "does he have WILL". Ignoring possibility of injury or something even worst(pu,pu!), I don't see why "he won't win any GS" in the future, considering how much he improved his play this year and is still improving. So, you can just tear your nerves apart, haters.

Allure
09-25-2007, 01:32 PM
He absolutely proved that he has huge WILL, also having that "winner" attitude, so it's not the question "does he have WILL". Ignoring possibility of injury or something even worst(pu,pu!), I don't see why "he won't win any GS" in the future, considering how much he improved his play this year and is still improving. So, you can just tear your nerves apart, haters.

Did you even read the thread title. It's asking does he have the will to be an all time great, not can he win any GSs.

ezekiel
09-25-2007, 01:38 PM
if you have to ask now then the answer is clearly YES! :)

Bilbo
09-25-2007, 01:38 PM
he won't even win a grand slam. i think that answers your question.

ezekiel
09-25-2007, 01:40 PM
if you think he is not ambitious enough or his game has irreperable holes in it or he is too conformist or something, speak now or forever hold your peace

Bascule
09-25-2007, 01:43 PM
Did you even read the thread title. It's asking does he have the will to be an all time great, not can he win any GSs.

Yes, I know, but somebody said he won't even win a GS. Ok?

Allure
09-25-2007, 01:47 PM
if you think he is not ambitious enough or his game has irreperable holes in it or he is too conformist or something, speak now or forever hold your peace

Wow, you're almost as bad as R=FK. :cuckoo:

ezekiel
09-25-2007, 01:49 PM
Wow, you're almost as bad as R=FK. :cuckoo:

that hurts , thank you :o

Bascule
09-25-2007, 01:57 PM
No, Ezekiel doesn't change his mind so often like rafatard.

Bascule
09-25-2007, 02:07 PM
Just to say hello to l_mac, as I already said, where ever is Djoko's name, there's mac also. Dear mac, I'm still mactard.

ezekiel
09-25-2007, 02:11 PM
l_mac is cool and inocous so far

Bascule
09-25-2007, 02:32 PM
l_mac is cool and inocous so far

Yes, I think Nole already melt her heart.:D

Farenhajt
09-25-2007, 05:41 PM
Well, when he reaches his current goal - to be No. 1 - what do you expect he'll do? Quit tennis and take up artistic knitting? I don't think so. The point is just that he announces his goals in "reachable steps". At the beginning of the year he said he wanted to participate in TMC, implying he wanted to go from #16 to top 8. And boy, did he succeed in that :) Now there's the next step on his mind - a slam or three - most likely as soon as the next year, and after that there are even higher goals to be aimed at.

Personally, for the next year I would be perfectly satisfied with one slam and the Olympic gold (the latter just to spite Roger :devil: )

Merton
09-26-2007, 12:14 AM
He most certainly has the will to maximize his potential, luck of will will never be an issue for him. But declaring him already a great of the game in the making is a bit premature.

Alex999
09-26-2007, 12:50 AM
Djokovic is 20 years old. It is too early to make any predictions now. People who say with so much confidence that he will never win a grand slam know nothing about tennis. Look at Novak age 7 practicing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R71zIu-YXSU

If you pay attention, he is bouncing a ball only once before he is serving. This kid is very talented. I think he is mentally strong.

TennisShoulder
09-26-2007, 01:47 AM
Well, when he reaches his current goal - to be No. 1

If.

Fedex
09-26-2007, 04:13 AM
HAHAHAHAHA
At this point, that is the only deserving response to this thread.

Allure
09-26-2007, 04:16 AM
all time great injury faker? sure.

Aloimeh
09-26-2007, 04:26 AM
all time great injury faker? sure.

You really, really hate him, don't you?

Alex999
09-26-2007, 04:41 AM
You really, really hate him, don't you?

He is just scared, very very scared as Fed is going down next year :devil:

BOOO

densuprun
09-26-2007, 04:42 AM
An all time great? Djokovic? :eek:
He has no skills to be an all time great, will or no will.

Bascule
09-26-2007, 04:43 AM
Hi, Aloimeh, here you are again... And haters, of course. Same old story.

Aloimeh
09-26-2007, 04:47 AM
Hi, Aloimeh, here you are again... And haters, of course. Same old story.

Perhaps I should recuse myself from this thread. It seems that I have a knack for "derailing" threads or starting "outrageous" threads that cause other posters to fall into fits of apoplexy and then the patricians have to come in and shut the whole thing down.

Allure
09-26-2007, 05:07 AM
He is just scared, very very scared as Fed is going down next year :devil:

BOOO

Yeah because if Fed does ''go down'' it's because he's aging not because Djokovic is actually better in any way. :rolleyes: Of course knowing you, you would think Djokovic would stand a chance against a prime Federer.

Alex999
09-26-2007, 05:50 AM
Yeah because if Fed does ''go down'' it's because he's aging not because Djokovic is actually better in any way. :rolleyes: Of course knowing you, you would think Djokovic would stand a chance against a prime Federer.
Ah, just drop it. I like you you. I was just j/k. Nobody lasts forever. There is a new kid around the corner (ranked 200 - 300) who will take down Nadal or Djoko.

This is my dream:
AO 2008 - Novak
RG 2008 - Fed
W 2008 - Nadal
UO 2008 - Novak
Cheers,
A

thrust
09-26-2007, 04:36 PM
Of course he does! He choked away the first two sets in the USO final, his firs Slam final. He was too emotionally tired to care about Cincinatti, a few days after his big win in Montreal. Sure, his game could use improvement but he does not lack desire.

yana
09-26-2007, 06:20 PM
Let's see how he'll defend all those points next year when the pressure is on...

Bascule
09-26-2007, 07:36 PM
Perhaps I should recuse myself from this thread. It seems that I have a knack for "derailing" threads or starting "outrageous" threads that cause other posters to fall into fits of apoplexy and then the patricians have to come in and shut the whole thing down.

Ofcourse, not at all. You're just fine.
I don't understand people who hate top athletes and telling rubbish about them.

Farenhajt
09-26-2007, 08:02 PM
Pressure is higher, but his game is ever improving, so there should be some balance between the two.

Bascule
09-26-2007, 08:29 PM
His rising this year was incredible fast. And, that's why he didn't make it NY,NY (because of all this pressure). But now, when he get use to it (as he showed it in Belgrade), my hopes are even bigger.

elessar
09-26-2007, 08:54 PM
His rising this year was incredible fast. And, that's why he didn't make it NY,NY (because of all this pressure). But now, when he get use to it (as he showed it in Belgrade), my hopes are even bigger.
You're basing your opinion of Novak winning a GS (in all likelyhood beating federer) on the fact that he beat Luczak and Guccione on clay before a home crowd :worship:

Allure
09-26-2007, 09:05 PM
You're basing your opinion of Novak winning a GS (in all likelyhood beating federer) on the fact that he beat Luczak and Guccione on clay before a home crowd :worship:

Guccione and Luczak are just as good Federer. They can beat him play their best tennis.

Bascule
09-26-2007, 10:26 PM
You're basing your opinion of Novak winning a GS (in all likelyhood beating federer) on the fact that he beat Luczak and Guccione on clay before a home crowd :worship:

Not at all, I'm talking about pressure on him. Pressure to win in Belgrade was even bigger than in NY. He got to deal with it, and when he gets use on pressure, he won't "choke".:angel: Tu comprends ca?

General Suburbia
09-27-2007, 01:45 AM
Of course he has the will. If he wants something badly, he'll do anything to obtain it. You don't constantly fake injuries in the hopes to somehow pull off a win if you don't have the will to win.

Allure
09-27-2007, 02:23 AM
Of course he has the will. If he wants something badly, he'll do anything to obtain it. You don't constantly fake injuries in the hopes to somehow pull off a win if you don't have the will to win.

Finally I agree with you. :yeah:

TennisShoulder
09-27-2007, 02:44 AM
There is a suggestion that if Novak Djokovic doesn't win a grand slam in 2008, he might never win a grand slam. No pressure there then.

Corey Feldman
09-27-2007, 03:35 AM
No

but he can have a good career after his tennis impersonating players...

impersonate Federer, but someone give him a Slam trophy , wont work if he's holding up his plate.

Corey Feldman
09-27-2007, 03:36 AM
No pressure there then.I think he is used to pressure...

well his mad parents tell the whole world he's better than Federer :lol:

Corey Feldman
09-27-2007, 03:39 AM
I see Ezekiel got to the poll. :pYeah Ez.... *cough* Nole's father *cough* .... ekiel.

:p

Kolya
09-27-2007, 04:32 AM
No he will not be an all time great.

Just wait till he struggles with form and see how he handles it.

Marek.
09-27-2007, 04:45 AM
I'm interested to see how he'll back this season up next year.

Alex999
09-27-2007, 04:46 AM
Escude,
I hope they will ban you forever next time. You are so full of shit. You just keep making stupid comments. Boring. Get the hell out of here.

Allure
09-27-2007, 04:53 AM
Escude,
I hope they will ban you forever next time. You are so full of shit. You just keep making stupid comments. Boring. Get the hell out of here.

I can think of many posters more full of bs than Escude who should be banned already.

Kolya
09-27-2007, 04:59 AM
Lets just wait and see if Nole can defend all his points in 2008. A bad tournament will cost him a lot of points.

Alex999
09-27-2007, 05:24 AM
Allure,
Please behave. I think we had this conversation already.

Allure
09-27-2007, 05:25 AM
Lets just wait and see if Nole can defend all his points in 2008. A bad tournament will cost him a lot of points.

It would be very hard for him to repeat his 2007 performance. I think he will remain a constant staple in the ATP like Roddick but won't have any more big breakthroughs.

Allure
09-27-2007, 05:25 AM
Allure,
Please behave. I think we had this conversation already.

Was I talking about you? :shrug:

Alex999
09-27-2007, 05:37 AM
Was I talking about you? :shrug:


No man. However, tell me if I've ever talked shit about Fed. No, I didn't as I respect him big time. You just seem to be everywhere that Novak's name is involved. Don't be so negative. That's all.

Allure
09-27-2007, 05:54 AM
No man. However, tell me if I've ever talked shit about Fed. No, I didn't as I respect him big time. You just seem to be everywhere that Novak's name is involved. Don't be so negative. That's all.

I like to go to every thread and express my opinion. ;)

jasmin
09-27-2007, 03:06 PM
I think Djokovic has the will and the ego but not the temperament......yet.

Corey Feldman
09-27-2007, 03:26 PM
Escude,
I hope they will ban you forever next time. You are so full of shit. You just keep making stupid comments. Boring. Get the hell out of here.Stop crying over nothing Fanboy :rolleyes:

Burrow
09-27-2007, 03:32 PM
He is too busy being a complete jack ass, somebody I thought he would never be a year ago, he is pretty quiet and kept his head down.

All of this stuff with Sharapova isn't helping either, this is distracting him from tennis and wont help in the long run, I believe before 2013 will be the peak of his career, he has time but I don't see him breaking any records.

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-27-2007, 10:09 PM
Wow, you're almost as bad as R=FK. :cuckoo:

He is logical.

But even the Gods fall short of my brilliance.

TennisShoulder
09-28-2007, 02:45 AM
Djokovic doesn't have too many points to defend at the Aussie Open...I think he could make another breakthrough there..............then the ranking will slide!

Petrovic
09-28-2007, 12:56 PM
I think he will become number one by the end of 2008.
He has been improving since he apeared on tennis courts !
He know that he can beat Federer and Nadal , and he will take it from there !

martine2
09-28-2007, 01:03 PM
I guess it already takes "a will" to get where he is now

ezekiel
09-28-2007, 01:36 PM
this thread is just nit picking
Wimbledon SF: he played when he couldn't run at all due to screwed scheduling . Blame organizers , what else?

Cincy Moya: An understandable letdown after a big win, unfortunatelly scheduling is screwed once again and it's especially hard from a youngster to recover mentally and physically after a great win and start at the same intensity again right away

USO final: This had everything to do with him and getting over that final hump . He didn't play well and choked badly but it can only get better from that and it's always better to get over this experiences when you are young and build and learn from them in the long term instead of getting easy victory . If you want to be great , you have to build on everything.

Earlier in the year he had tough losses to Youzhny and Nadal and he got over it and got better, at this point it's all about experience since he has everything else

TennisShoulder
11-01-2007, 02:21 AM
I think we saw further evidence today that Novak Djokovic just doesn't have the stomach for a fight when the chips are down! I hope he doesn't turn out to be another Marat Safin - sublime when the sun is out and all the flowers in the garden are rosy, but when swimming against the tide - likely to take the easy option and get out of the water!

RagingLamb
11-01-2007, 03:14 AM
I think we saw further evidence today that Novak Djokovic just doesn't have the stomach for a fight when the chips are down! I hope he doesn't turn out to be another Marat Safin - sublime when the sun is out and all the flowers in the garden are rosy, but when swimming against the tide - likely to take the easy option and get out of the water!

I share your sentiment.

Although I think Djokovic is a little more focused than Safin. I also think he's smarter than Marat as a tennis player.

FedFan_2007
11-01-2007, 03:27 AM
He is logical.

But even the Gods fall short of my brilliance.

You so remind me of Dwight Shroot of "The OFfice" - and that's not a compliment.

TennisShoulder
11-01-2007, 04:23 AM
Great win for Santoro today.

The Gucci one
11-01-2007, 09:07 AM
He wins a lot of matches when slightly injured, tired or nowhere near his best and thats pretty much why he is No 3 with a bullet this year.

yeh yeh
11-01-2007, 09:45 AM
the guy is good and has shown is bottle he has just coe up agaisnt nadal and fed prob two fo the greatest of all time, if they werent there then djoker would be the king and murray if he stops gettin injured